Why EU is Better Than NA at Counter-Strike
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Kids in Europe play Counter-Strike, kids in NA play Warzone, it's that simple
Understandable, but why?
@@Ryderdie1because na players are soft for cs community
Na usually falls for the marketing tricks = dad bought a Ps4 /5 not pc.. That's why fortnite is so popular too.. @@Ryderdie1
console culture/playing on a controller is way more popular in na would be my guess thats why na dominates all cod tournaments@@Ryderdie1
I would be happy if my kid didn't play cs in EU. NA has it's fair share of idiots but from personal experience EU players are huge man children and are super toxic. If a kid was constantly exposed to the shit in EU server I feel sorry for their development. (NA isn't perfect, but at least everyone speaks English so voicechat is much more mature)
cs2: an NA made game dominated by EU with the skins economy being almost wholey influenced by Asia....
cs is truly a global esport
And most expensive transfer in Russian
And most cheaters is from China
I said this in freakzoids chat "that eu has more players thats why they are better". And his american mods and chat legit tried to bully me saying i was reeee and so stupid. Actually crazy that people dont know common logic. More players = more competition = better players
Eu lvl 10 = na lvl 3
im american and i can say ive hated freakazoid for years, hes such a terrible example for na players to follow. i wish he would have completely just washed out of CS entirely
@@sike1029fr
I cant stand freakazoid guy played pro and won nothing he swears he actually good when hes not
@@sike1029 Hating a man youve never met or talked to before for years is wild lol
As someone from Europe that knows Niko ( Nikola Kovač) irl, I can tell you that the culture has a massive impact. People recognize him all the time in the streets, and want to talk to him and take pictures.
That's sick, have you asked him where his bullets went tho when he was fighting s1mple on nuke
@@ChrBnks Bruh
One of the reasons why we as europeans play counter strike is the fact that 1.6 and source could be played on almost anything. In my country there used to be a website where you could download it for free and play LAN on school computers during lunch break. Good ol times
NA here, spent all 4 years of highschool playing 1.6 on the school computers. Legendary students installed it on every single non teacher computer
yeah its very much widely spread
Valorant was a big factor. EU didn’t embrace that game like NA did and I feel like not only did we lose a significant amount of the tier 2 NA pro players who were next up for a chance at tier 1, Valorant is more kid friendly meaning a lot of the young kids who could’ve ended up being the future of the NA Counter Strike scene are playing Valorant instead. We don’t have the future player pool
I do not know. It is a really dark view. To me, Valorant and CS are similar enough that reverse jump from Valo to CS is realisticly possible.
valorant ruined na
It's incredible to me that NA wasn't even the worse victim of the Valo exodus.
It was Asia, Japan in particular had their entire pro scene migrate to Valorant it was insane.
Most of the kids i encountered at my old daycare job/my mom's class whenever I went in at the end of the year were not interested in CSGO/2 because of how realistic it was. Half the kids today are allowed to play literally anything, their moms just give them a small allowance of stuff they can buy a month on the condition they get left alone after work(recipe for disaster, I know.) So almost every kid prefers games like warzone/GTA where it has the mature rating so they feel like rebels playing it/games like valorant and fortnite that are a lot more colorful to them. Meanwhile cs doesn't have the colors/characters of valorant/fortnite and doesn't have the rebel mature rating of warzone/GTA. So they don't even know it exist despite having gaming computers before reaching double digits in age
You hit the nail on the head toward the end. It's a cultural thing. Esports is a life changing opportunity in EU, where here in the US you're laughed at and lack support (specifically speaking Counter Strike) from your parents if you DO choose that route. But that won't change anything until big orgs see the potential and make it the way it is in EU.. an actual career in esports.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching the whole video as well. Hopefully one day NA’s culture will shift towards accepting Esports as a legitimate career path, whether you’re a player, coach, caster, or organization management.
Thanks again for watching.
Yeah bro, good luck telling your eastern european parents that you want to play games for a living.
@@Saltywengiell Interesting that you say that because Eastern Europeans are literally the strongest ethnicities in CS esports, right alongside Scandinavians. Aside from Zywoo, look at all the other guys who are considered godlike: Simple, Donk, Monesy, and Niko are all from Eastern Europe. Broky, Frozen, Ropz in Faze are Eastern European. Everyone in Navi except Aleksi are Eastern European. Siuhy and Torszi in Mouz are Eastern European. Everyone in G2 except Malbs is Eastern European and they're doing better now than their previous roster. Spirit is all Eastern European. These are all the top teams right now too.
@@Ivorinth Yes thats why i said this argument, most of the parents would not accept this kind of career lightly just like in NA.
@@Saltywengiell when playing games is not frowned upon (and it isn't) then if you can convert this hobby to a job most parents would be relieved rather than if a person chose to just play a lot for nothing
Well as a finnish person i can say that why we have so many faceit level 10s in our kinda low populated country mostly comes down to the weather, for like 8months a year the weather is so awful that we dont really care to go outside and just prefer to play indoors. also so many houses have optical fiber internet that makes us play maxium of 30ping in many games. so i guess that helps. I started my cs journey when i was like 11 or 12 years old when i was on my grandpas house and my older cousin brought his laptop there. and now after 11years still playing
This applies not only to Finland, but also to Sweden, Norway, Denmark and the rest of Northern Europe. The second point is the population difference in Europe it is 746 million and in North America it is 342 million ✌🏻🇩🇪
@@philiprennert7730and I would add that USA have a huge gaming industry pumping out a large number of quality games. This means that a lot of games compete for the player base of the American market, spreading the players out to different titles . It's easier for game publishers to run their own tournaments in USA, simply due to it being a single country. In contrast, the European player base is spread out over multiple countries and much of the competition is organized by private entities. I think Europe naturally gravitated to CS because it was cheap enough that everyone could afford it, could be run on most PCs and didn't require you to buy the latest release every two years like COD.
As a person from eu (Poland), I can say that in our country there has always been a culture of playing cs. Why? Mainly due to the fact that it was the only (free) popular shooter not for consoles in the years 2000-2010. In subsequent years it just stayed with us. The next generations played what we played. This seems to me as the only reason not counting the stars from our country who inspired us (for poland: old VP - 2014 - 2018)
Great video. And just so you know, FaZe doesn't have a training "facility" in EU. They all live in their homes and practice from there and occasionally (few times a season) go to rentable bootcamps like Apeks' facility in Norway and Kinguin's bootcamp in Poland
Thanks for letting me know! Also, thanks for watching.
I honestly think that the pro scene would be more balanced if covid never happened. 2019 saw 2 NA teams make top 3 and the short Liquid era that drove my personal love for the game since I started playing in the middle of 2018. When 2020 came around, along with covid, valorant came and a sizeable chunk out of the NA tier 2-3 scene. There were so many young players that made the switch and ever since then, you don't hear much about new NA prospects and there aren't many visible teams that compete in higher level tournaments.
The cultural impact thing is also important as well. Many of my friends who barely played CS picked up Valorant and played much longer and grinded since there were more and more people in the Southern California region where I live that it became somewhat of a norm. It reminds me of the League of Legends esports landscape. Every time I talk to any Koreans, whether it be friends or strangers, they know or play league of legends. When I visit korea and I go into PC cafes, I can almost be assured that half of the people there are playing League and it reflects on the pro scene as well. Every team that has won worlds, outside of the first 2, has had a Korean Mid Laner. And that's just the Mid Lane as well.
Very well put brother. It’s honestly unfortunate. All I want for my region is to be at the very least, competitive. But unfortunately we’re just not. Hopefully more North Americans start playing and that changes. But I’m not hopeful.
Thanks for watching bro.
Да культурный влияние это самая большая разница на например Россия почти каждый человек тут играет или играл в Cs2 или Dota 2 это почти образ жизни и еще медиа сфера (трансляции матч) очень сильно делает упор на это потому что очень много команды с России выступает на больших турниров таких как ,International или Major. Поэтому страна так сильный в таких дисциплинах.
we dont play controller games in europe... i mean , yeah, we play some fifa... but thats it. we grew up on mouse and keyboard, we went to lanparties (cs had lanparties since the 2000 in every little city in every little country u can think of ). it goes much much deeper than kennyS , s1mple and zywoo... for many of us, they are just kids . heck, even forrest and neo arent OGs ... we grew up with potti , heaton , element etc . its been passed down for more than 2 decades!
Its simple, eu has more players which means more teams, they have a healthy tier 2-3 pro scene, NA doesnt really have that, you can be a tier 2 pro in eu and have it be your job, in NA if you arent liquid, m80, complexity or NRG (i know there's like 2 more) you do not get payed to play, theres more leagues, more events etc in eu aswell
Absolutely true.
Thanks for watching.
Is that really just it for everything? talent pool? i never truly did believe that
@@jmgonzales7701 I mean EU's tier 3 and 2 scene isn't just the same washed players on different teams every year, NA has esl but almost all the players are 26+ years old, it really is that simple though
This is why I have not understood the big departure of NA cs. Especially after they won the major in 2018. It’s gotten worse every year and we’ve seen more international rosters started in NA. Why????? If we want better talent, if we care about the players then why send it all away??? It completely blows my mind. NA professional cs is a fishbowl of who you know, not how good you are.
covid is the catalyst, since alot of team is EU based and doing big event in NA on 2019-2020 is just not visible due the pandemic. thats why big tournament org just make it online first and playing online on EU server from NA is a big disadvantage. also after the pandemic is brewing down its still hard to get permit to bring in team from different continent to NA thats why big org just straight make their tournament at EU either that or NA team have to bring their team to EU (for the lockdown stuff, yea even after the pandemic going down they still do minimal lockdown etc till late 2021)
but now they gonna make alot of tournament outside of the EU, heck the next major is in shanghai and after that texas. also the riyadh EWC stuff is going so expect alot more exposure back to CS outside of EU
Would say it got worse after 2019 as 2019 was really NA's peak. 2019 had 2 NA teams in Liquid and NRG/EG that were both top 10 teams (and both having reached #1 on HLTV), as well as many other good up and coming NA teams like Gen G showing some promise. After almost every org in NA pulled out during COVID and all the players on those teams moved to Valorant, NA never really recovered.
No? Look at liquid and SK/MIBR 2019, furia. Liquid was THE nr.2 in the world after astralis and SK/MIBR was a top team. Then 2020 with covid. Covid killed NA cs with orgs leaving, NA & SA exclusive competition. Then valorant picked up whatever pieces had been left loose where washed players simply chased money instead. The effects are still felt today.The fact this guy didn’t talk about this baffles me.
As a swede, gaming in general got a MASSIVE boost in popularity during the late 90's and early 2000's, which means there is a huge amount of 30+ year old people who've played CS since source and 1.6 leading to more exposure to Counter-Strike growing up.
Just remembered that Russia was first country to officially say that esport is sport. Man, that was different time.
As an European, we grew up with cs. That’s what all our mates are playing. I do see a small downfall aswell tho, a lot of semi pro’s moving to valorant as cs was too hard. Looking at things it looks like call of duty have been the go to game in US, while in Europe it was cs. Valorant is growing in popularity in NA. Maybe that will be NA’s cs. I do hope tho that more pro teams from NA. Develop as you often see the non European teams mess around with the meta.
the funny part with the playerbase in valo is
there u see the spanish ,the france and most other western eu states
while in cs u ask for calls only to hear russian or polish
in that kind of way valo is easier as more ppl speak english there
also where from europe are u?
Every kid in school was playing cod where I grew up in Europe, I wasn't really aware of cs until I went to uni and ppl talked about cs
Correction: NA has 1 major, the other 2 went to a entirely south american team (players, coach, manager and some support staff) they're just based in NA because competing from their region was impractical.
Correct! That was mentioned in the video. Out of the 20 EU has won 17, which leaves 3 for everyone else, one went to NA and two to Brazil!
Thanks for watching.
@@Ryderdie1 i was spazzing out then, my bad.
It's probably the only gaming realted thing that Eastern Europeans popularized over 20 years. I remember 2009 after school booting up CS 1.6 just to hear my fellow Lithuanians swear using Polish and Russian swear words. It was one of the best things that happened in my childhood and even if you don't like how slavic languages sound there will be no escape from them.
More than all this. It's super easy to go to events here in EU. My a friend of mine went to Cologne and the 3 day ticket is like 300 usd/euro for playoffs and travel was like 100 euro. Then hotels can be cheap and it's so easy to travel between EU countries it's worth going to events. From his words going to Cologne just inspired him to grind even harder just seeing pro's play live and the crowd is crazy. NA doesn't have that
It's because CS could be played on a potatoe. Most of Europe is/used to be pretty low income where as US had a much wider choice of games to play.
Low income?
I think it has more to do with how ridiculously expensive Pc parts in Europe are compared to US where it is cheapest in world to build up a gaming PC, a setup which would cost $1000 to build in US would cost over €1500 in Most European countries
@@thesilentassassin1167 Not really, you need to look at the average income for most of central and eastern Europe since 1.6 came out.
Finland, Sweden, Denmark and France all have high income and yet they have produced some of the best players we have ever seen. It’s just that people take esports more seriously here in the EU
@@NGTheGenera1 youre generalizing a lot here. western europe is not low income. sure the east isnt nearly as wealthy but it isnt some poverty stricken area where kids simply cant play PC or something. saying most of europe is pretty low income is a statement that needs a lot of context for starters. the parts are expensive as shit in parts of EU also
really cool video, as someone who doesn't play much cs themselves but just follows the scene i'm glad this got recommended to me despite the fact that your other stuff is more play-oriented
My content moving forward will likely be in this format and style. Also, I’m glad you enjoyed the content.
Thanks for watching!
Great video,i think it is mainly the reason because here in europe its like culture culture to grow up on this game, all my friends played it in school and it was a competition who was best, even the girls played it.
My man. You cant just b-roll of a massive bodybuilder just pressing the bar when its literally Jared Feather from Rp hypertrophy. The man is one of the most educated IFBB pros. Love your channel. This isnt hate or anything at all. I dont even know why that grinds my gears. keep doing what youre doing :)
My bad brother! I honestly didn’t even realize! If I ever b-roll him I’ll pay some respect.
Either way, thanks for watching bro!
bit late, but something i thought i could add as well is that europe isn't a monolith. take the uk for example, a lot of our population, if they play games, do so on consoles with cod and fifa especially being the games of choice. i knew maybe one other person in my childhood with a home computer, everyone else had an xbox, and there were no lan cafes anywhere near me when i grew up, and there's maybe one now.
also our general culture and egos (as well as often terrible infrastructure) means a lot of players don't have great setups which are more important in modern cs, and a lot of people in the scene, at least when i was playing actively, and including myself, had this belief that we were so great and skilled at the game that we would just naturally achieve anything whilst we languished in open and inters, and by the time we're 18-21, everybody's basically given up playing anything but casually so other than a handful of players nobody ever gets very far before they hang up the mouse to get a normal job
What an awesome Video dude, I didn't know we europeans outnumber you that crazy in CS. Hope to see more Videos like this from you!
Thank you! More content to come.
Ez sub, love some good actual research and investigation into the issue for real data.
Cultural thing. If NA had the greatest esports player in history walk into a mall, only a few teenagers would know who he was. If the Dolphins 2nd string QB walked into a mall he’d be getting hounded by fans for pictures and autographs. The number of kids who want to be pro athletes compared to esports is probably 50k-1. You aren’t going to get great players in a shallow pool.
same reason america sucks at pool now too
ain't no money in it
Becoming my favorite cs channel. Surprised you’re not bigger, keep it up
Thank you, that really means a lot. More content to come.
The population difference is definitely huge. In EU servers, I almost never played with the same players twice unless I was at the very edges of the bell curve. Nowadays you see NA queues having the same language barrier issues as EU, probably because NA just simply doesn't have enough people anymore
Does NA have a lot of amateur tournaments too? Even my small EU country has several every year with prize pool of just 500$ but still over 100 teams participate
there’s almost none. there’s like 6 LANs a year but because NA is so big it’s usually around $1000 spent just to even play and there is only ESEA and CCT, but CCT is invite only and some of the better teams who live and play in NA don’t get invited bc they’re not an NA majority.
Stew is also a major reason why I play the game, his playstyle is infectious and he's so fun to watch. (Also great editing)
Thank you! Yeah Stew has been one of my favorite players to watch for a long time.
Hi Ryder just wanna make a reminder on the major champios from NA remember that twistzz is also a major champio with Faze so NA have in total 6 NA major winners :)
The solution to this, COULD BE something like a preseason like where all the teams flyout to where the major is and they play lan there, so they can scrimm almost all days, like a lan camp before the major.
Video games such as CS has been an accepted career path in EU for a long time now and in NA its still looked down on. People in NA dont feel like its viable a lot of the time and wont even pursue it while it tends to be quite the opposite from what ive heard in EU. Career accessibility matters, obviously its not the whole story but its a massive reason for sure
also to add to this point (this will be from a danish pov), in denmark there isn't much risk to pursuing a career in esports, because if it doesnt work out you can always fall back on our social security
CZcams needs more content creators like you great video last clip is hilarious
Thank you! More content to come.
Hey nice you are addressing one of the most important question last stream with statistic in thos video. keep up the high quality video man.
Will do, Sheep. Thanks for watching.
To unwind furher: PC gaming has been much more popular in Europe compared to US since the 80s, even moreso before social media existed. Why is that? My hypothesis is that because of how divided Europe marketing by Atari and Nintendo was much more difficult here so they started in US meanwhile grassroots home computer already took over the gaming market in Europe.
Europe has been the best since ever because scandinavia had the best internet in the early days of 1.6. So the culture there was strong and they dominated the scene. Europe already had a head start in the game
The fact 1.6 was very popular in the early days of CS is something that is news to me. But you’re absolutely right! Thanks for watching!
for my part of the eu being Slovakia people play cs here cause they grew up on cs1.6 (mostly the pirated version)
I think big difference is that PC gaming has much bigger share over console gaming in EU than in NA.
Because eu has so many more players, we're better in literally every rank than our NA counterparts.
I don't mean this in a negative way to my friends across the pond, but I've played in NA too when I went there a couple years ago. The friend I visited was NA LEM and I was a EU DMG.
I consistently dominated every single game and in the three weeks I was there he ranked up to GE and I did too. When I came back home I simply dropped back to LEM and stayed there for a bit because I couldn't keep up with the GEs in Europe.
I don't know how the ranks compare today because I both quit cs and don't plan on going to the US again hahaha
Great video dude
Another factor:
PC gaming is way bigger in Europe than it is in NA.
NA play more console games.
Aka it's more common for people in NA to have a PlayStation or Xbox.
Its really about the community imo
And European population is far better spread out compared to NA East vs west
Growing up on CS vs Growing up on CoD
When it comes to slavic countries there's still a big scene in 1.6 just because the game is so easy to run and you can play competitively on a 15 year old pc. A lot of ~40yo guys played it when they were young and still do if they didn't transition onto the newer games, so imagine if the only thing you ever saw played on a pc as a kid was Counter-Strike and when you get older you can try playing it on your own. You obviously wanna be the best and you have a lot of free time after school to practice. That's where all the young EU talent is coming from, at least from my perspective because I've been in that position. Some schools even help organize tournaments for the students in whatever esport is most popular (almost always CS)
small nitpick but you getting put in games with donk isn't necessarily because there was no one higher elo online to play but rather donk has so much more elo than the avg top NA pugger that he has to have lower elo teammates on his team than the enemy team to "balance" the matchmaking (that's how faceit matchmaking works)
Kids in Europe grow up on a PC with a $5 (or free) keyboard+mouse combo. Kids in US grow up with consoles and controllers.
Kids in Europe play cs since their earliest age. I remember playing cs 1.5 with bots on my pc when I was barely 5. Alao, we had access to countless pirated versions of 1.6 so we were not limited to our parents buying us the game.
Also liquid is never really in NA so they should be counted as based in NA and coL spend most time in EU when they don't have to be in NA outside the old major system and player break
Any team worth their “marbles” should be practicing in EU!
Thanks for watching.
I started cs because its a fun game, simple.
before watching the vid and just based off the title i wanted to comment " its just cuz we're better 😭💯🙏" but halfway into the vid fair enough, great analysis 🙂
Thank you!
Insignificant add, but there is 6 players to win a major from NA, since Twistzz won a major with faze.
Good point! I missed that detail. Thanks for watching.
Because europeans dont have to work 3 jobs to support themselves.
If you do end up traveling to Europe, you should compare na vs eu faceit
If I ever do, I ABSOLUTELY will. That sounds like a lot of fun.
Thanks for watching bro.
@@Ryderdie1 not IF but WHEN 🙃 make sure you smash some small LAN events, where I believe you will really "feel" the cultural diff!
6:02 You need to give us comparison. How many in na?
7:03 you mean government program that made basketball the most acceptable sport?
Luminosity based in na
amazing video, very well put together.
Now think about the OCE scene in comparison to NA 🤧
Yeah, and it’s like th Nordic part of EU (Sweden, Norway, Finland) has winter and just pure darkness for 8 months in a row. That’s why you usually hear people being scared of northern full stacks cause usually they are better since there really is nothing to do for 8 months straight
A big reason why is NA is dominated by console culture
True. That isn’t something I considered when making the video. I would have added a chapter about it.
Thanks for watching.
Donk is so sweet 🤗
I hate to say it but NA has always had these issues, even back in the OG CS CPL days, NA has never been able to really keep up with EU and CIS.
Until there is real structure in place and NA teams potentially relocate to EU, I can;t see there being any real changes in the next 5 years at least
Great video! Love the insight
Thank you!
TLDR: eastern europe poor, poor=bad pc's, bad pc= play easy to run games like cs, play cs alot=get gud
I played faceit on NA and EU brother and i can tell you the difference is on mentality, the key aspect is the grind, in EU you want to grind, to be the best, to beat everything and be the best, high competition made that happen, NA are more chill and does not care about tryharding too much, that s why. An other aspect that i ve seen is that you guys have weird tactics and a weird way to aproach cs i dunno, it s just different and in most cases not that good.
In EU we are playling to show off, to destroy, in NA you are playing to have some fun and good time.
Cultural is in our roots to play cs from cs 1.6 and source, specially East Europe
Great takes great video, good shit
Thank you!
It’s the same principle as to why football (soccer) is bad in NA. They have the population but not the player base; simply put they are rich enough to play more expensive and newer games. Access to a soccer ball and a PC that can run CS (used to at least) be much cheaper than American football equipment and a console. In NA kids play console bc it’s popular and almost everyone can afford it. Go to Poland, Russia, Brazil, Turkey, the Balkans, Ukraine, Mongolia, South America, etc people don’t have consoles or a beast PC that can run newest COD but they probably have a shitbox that can play CS. Of course there are outliers like Scandinavia who have the money but most of the time it’s cus they have a stronger PC culture for some other reason.
Another reason on why there eu is better then na is that a lot more kids grew and grow playing pc games especially cs.I have seen on another similar video that more na kids want and play on console more then on pc and also cs is more popular in eastern europe simply via word of mouth.
Console culture is definitely very prevalent here in the US. Good point!
Thanks for watching
Your argument of top players having to face lower skilled players on ladder cuts both ways. If lower skilled players are paired with higher skilled players, they will improve faster. If all you do is win, you will plateau. If all you do is lose, you will adapt (= get better) or quit.
I've been saying for years that MM players are better than faceit players in NA. You play with a faceit lvl 9-10 and they won't know any smokes, don't know how to mid round. They will have good aim and that's it. Get lost if their B or A rush gets smoked off. And this theory confuses people. What people don't realize is, all the actual real experienced NA players that played ESEA and played Faceit. QUIT YEARS AGO. Already don't care enough to use the 3rd party application anymore. They don't care enough abt the game to play for lvl 9 or 10. And the last 10 people who do care are smoking so hard on COPIUM that at 25 they're finally going to get their break.
EU the culture is different aswell. No matter if you're a casual player or trying to go pro you're most likely going to play faceit. NA only plays faceit if they want to go pro and most have already realized that going pro is probably not viable. So to us there's no point in playing faceit. Yes the cheaters are bad in CS2 but like who cares. I'll be playing faceit and it feels like I'm encountering cheaters in there aswell. The #1 EU player just got exposed for cheating and has been doing so for years. I also have friends that know a bit abt cheating and they say it's honestly not hard to get faceit cheats. There's just a work around you have to do and it costs a bit more. Cuz there's just absolutely no way some of these guys with no actual game mechanics are running into the site and hard clearing the only angle you're holding. Not jiggling or clearing other angles. Next round you change position. Boom he does the same thing again. What even is the point of trying to take this game seriously in the NA region. I rather just play MM and not get roasted by ELO warriors even though I'm trying to win the game and not worry about my K/D.
Don't really need to read this part but if you feel my pain::: I even have another rant about NA faceit. So many people take it so seriously and think they know how to play the game better than you. It comes down to a lack of maturity but I shouldn't have to baby sit to play a video game. People are constantly playing afraid in Faceit. If you want me to flash for you THEN RUN OUT. What's the point of the flash bang? For you to sit there and wait? Then run out after you're finally done shitting your pants to get awped instantly. High lvl faceit players don't know basic CS. They're stuck in the mindset that they need to aim better. They rather run mid all game, I'll smoke window. Then they sit top mid wait for the window smoke to fade out. A player throws a flash bang over con and my team gets wiped. Like OK fuck it lets go mid every round, sit top boxes with our dicks in our hand, and just get flashed all round. IF WE'RE THROWING CON AND WINDOW SMOKES LETS GO TO CAT BEFORE THEY FADE. If we hear them rotate towards B then lets hit A. Maybe we have a lurk in Palace or Apartments. Except NOBODY knows how to mid round. Nobody knows how to just play the fucking game. NA is so backwards. If we have a 4v2, 2 people will go out and die to force a 2v2. If we have a 2v4 nobody will take the initiative to kill 2 to balance it out. Why are we such a brain dead region? If you have somebody lurking somebody is flaming him for baiting. NA CS is 5 people going to the same site. While the CTs are taking map control and the team wonders how we're getting flanked cuz we sat A ramp for 1 minute. Lets say your team is A ramp, you start going mid or B just to check timings. They'll just end up following you. So then you go A AND IT'S JUST A GAME OF MONKEY IN THE MIDDLE. This is at HIGH ELO. I'll play MM and people are willing to kinda fuck around and play the game. They know smokes, there's some toxic people sure but usually it's kinda funny and not serious.
cos europeans play differently and NA cant really practice to play against europeans without literally being in europe with adequate ping
Super good point about basketball in US vs EU relating to CS in EU vs US. I always talk about this. 🔥 vid man, ive pugged w you a few times haha recognize the name
Thank you! Hell yeah, if you’re name is the same on Faceit I’ll keep an eye out for you.
@@Ryderdie1 yuhhh im Godsight on faceit
Donk is that you?
console vs PC paradigm. Always has been. Also, Europeans are the biggest geeks there are for almost everything and part of the reason why is we're very diverse comparatively so it makes it easy for us to cover it all.
Some people may have trouble acknowledging this though. I have heard people saying there were more CS players on NA because that's where Valve is from, which is such a braindead argument if you ask me.
A lot of players that would be playing cs are instead playing valorant
bro, europe dindt win 17 majors, unless u think that asia and europe are the same continent. Khazakstan inst europe is Asia... what to expect from a American
Crying over that 🤡🤡🤡
Me who is European but lives in Australia my only inspiration in cs for Australia is jks
europe has had a ton of greats before simple, kennys etc
thank god i live close enough to the edge of america that i have decent ping on eu
na player dont need to play cs2 or buy prime, they just go to a local highschool
Pretty sure Liquid are EU based now in the Netherlands
PC is dominant platform in eastern europe
You also have to remember that the TOs have fucked NA by not hosting tournaments here and stealing NA slots in events, and valves new shit ranking
For EU comments who getting high and mighty to themselves, this only applies on "PRO PLAYERS" if you are from EU and still not pro you better zip your trap and don't get high of yourselves that your region is better from NA
There are way more good but not pro level players in EU than NA.
Я с Россий и у нас тут в Cs 2
Cs 2 тут очень токсичные чаты и это очень даже весело
Многие хочет доказать что ты плохой и игрок но это дает больше мотивации хорошо играть и показать свои возможности. Ты можешь просто отпустить руки и принять все обвинения в твой сторону, но ты просто берешь сложный раунд или делаешь Ace и покажешь обратный.
Anomaly comes in clutch😂😂
Yall complaining about NA quality, while me in Asia 😑
Very informative, I've subscribed for more content like this :D
More to come! Thanks for watching!
First of all Americans don't watch cs go that much, and the viewership is what is required for the sports to thrive financially. It's like with soccer
It’s not even close. EU is arguably 10x better than NA.
This analysis does not really go into depth, just lists the current differences and not where they come from. Europe dominates almost every E-sport, together with East Asia. The reason the US does not succed is the underlying culture, which is centered around convenience. Working hard on yourself and improving is not convenient, so US Americans dont do it. That is why the US dominates E-sports where you can sit on the couch and be fat. Its the same with sports: the US only dominates niche sports that almost nobody else plays. Americans are wealthy, but the wealth made them too lazy to strive and strive is what you need to reach the top. People from poor countries with a hard working culture understand this better. It is also the reason Eastern Europes is much more dominant in E-sports than EUW.
I did have a portion of the video that discussed the cultural differences. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said but you did make some interesting points. Regardless, thank you for watching!
lmfao "niche sports" buddy you made a couple decent points but so much of what you said is pretty much nonsensical. My god.🤣🤣🤣
Better? I doubt there is much difference one way or the other. They are just more concentrated there.
7:52 twistzz is also north american and has won a major as well so there's 6 na players to win a cs major. I understand that the way this was phrased "one of 5 north american players to win our only major" is correct since the major twistzz won was with a majority eu team thus na only has one major winning team but still I think when talking about north american major wins he deserves at least to be included perhaps by saying stew is one of 6 north american players to win a major or something like that since he the most decorated north american players in terms of the amalgamation of his event wins, total prize money, and number of hltv top 20 finishes.
More players and NA loves weed too much
I am from Portugal and if you portuguese you have to play cs idk why it is its just an unspoken rule that everyone knows
7:55 6* bro forgot twistzz
He definitely is a major winner. But I was more or loss considering the roster that was entirely comprised of North American players who managed to win.
Either way, good catch, and thank you for watching!
Why would an American play CS anyways?
They could join irl, both sides, more immersive.
Bro we carried d0nk in that Vertigo game