Professor Romila Thapar in Conversation with Teesta Setalvad ( Full Interview)
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- In an exhaustive and incisive interview Professor Romila Thapar, Emeritus Professor of History at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi and Hon D.Litt in both the University of Oxford and University of Chicago speaks to Teesta Setalvad in her special show on Communalism Combat.
She should be honoured because she has given us a very important information - according to her historical knowledge Yudhishtir took lessons from Ashoka on non violence!!! You must by heart this line and teach the same to your children. All praise for her
To understand this comment on Yudhisthir, you have to read 'history' again, instead of mythology and saffronized articles....
@@soumamduttaicmr-nin7824 can you tell me what the "history" is pls? coz mahabharata was written way earlier than Ashoka ever came into existence
@@Goofyderclown Mahabharata was an oral tradition at the beginning. Later on those fragments were compiled (during 400 BCE to 400 CE). The Epic genre is not History. It looks back at the past nostalgically (just like Sanjay Leela Bhansali movies). It might be possible that while compilation of Mahabharata some Buddhist ideologies were introduced, since the audience was already exposed to it. However, such topics should be open for free and unbiased discussions.
@@soumamduttaicmr-nin7824 Looks like you are trained in Sanjay Bhansali movies and not in history! Mahabharat was never 'compiled' and I don't know how you came up with dates of compilation (source-R Thapar, may be!). The antiquity of a text can be judged by the description of constellations in the text, but that may be a novel concept for you. Please read some original scholars and not R Thapar. She herself confessed that she doesn't know a word of Sanskrit!
@@raviy150 that's what I'm saying....you should read history with your brain, not with your heart....astronomical dating is specific for only those parts of the text, and it can not be attributed to the entire epic which was written and compiled over years and years....
"one of the essential ways that knowledge advances, is through questioning" (1:54). . . there are Buddhist versions (Jataka texts), Jain, (7:07), etc. . . the compositions that go into the making of the Mahabharat, span from 400 BCE to 400 CE (10:24). . . the essence of history is understanding the past (27:27). . . I loved this interview so much; it was balm for my soul after having been immersed in so many male religious narratives of late! two great intellects practicing samvad, respectful dialogue that enhances the learning of us all; thank you!
You missed mentioning the argument that said tokenism "ram given ring to hanuman" Was introduced by romens.. Helariously Meso culture stamps are found in harrappan sites dated 1500bc (tokenism) .. You should apply little burnol now.
She is selectively picking things from here and there and presenting them as one, she made so many false claims and many anti nationals things, in all her claims she tried to glorify western and painted India as some backward place, if read history and cross question the events then u will realise that she is lying,
Alexander stopped and idea of conquering the world after the battle of hydaspes and and the Indian king with whom he fought was just an ordinary king, Alexander won against small kingdoms and after coming to India he realised that his army is so small and can't win, so he decided to return, 3rd century BC
The nation is questioning your interpretation of Indian History
Thank you for this! I will hear it again and again. So rich not only to content but Ms. Thapar points out sources that I shall certainly look up beginning with Mills.
This is what they do in Madrasas. Repeat Jihadi garbage.
@@infinitewisdom6065 that is the basic difference between education/indoctrination vs learning/study.
She intelligently hid the fact, the Sailor Nuruddin Piroz had left an Arabic Inscription too where he prays Allah to destroy all Idols and convert Somnath as the city of Islam.
@@poonamsvideoblogsIt is clearly visible that you are the one indoctrinated here..
@@saurabhrajput5567 and that nuruddin declared that all the income generated from the mosque would be sent to Mecca for hajj pilgrims
one liar interviewing another liar
Said the third liar, in an honest moment, "you are one too."
@@poonamsvideoblogs who
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Where are the references ?
Read a book
Every question of teesta reflect her jaded perspective .
they both are jaded
Her jihadi perspective.
@@infinitewisdom6065 tsk tsk tsk... Bhakat.. Whatsapp chala lo frannndzzz
Choice is yours... learn history from one of world's most respected historian or from a TV channels known for spreading falsehood.
It is a personal loss if you miss out understanding History from the Prestigious Kluge Prize winner (an honour reserved for those discipline like history that are not covered by the Nobel prize) !!!
Where is the bibliography that u promised?
Teesta can't hide her pleasure whenever Romila corroborates her agenda and deep feelings. Only moment she is upset is when Romila says is no doubt that temples were broken..
Haha
Romila Thapar who does not know ancient Indian languages like Sanskrit, Prakrit or Pali is not a historical researcher but an interpreter of data painstakingly collected by historians and archeologists.
Very true❤
She use specialized linguist who are experts in those languages dear......
Excuses ... Translators are there
it is just like writing sentence with out knowing alphabets.
Abe WhatsApp University k professor ek historian aesa bta Jo vedik Sanskrit janta ho
Make every child think !!! Such a fantastic message.
So amazing a historian, i can see why what she says is not going to fly in India. Such is our limited understanding of our history.
Shes a personification the problematic indian academia which unconditionally accepts Western universalism, does not bother with basic facts of history and peddles outright propoganda
@@rutvikrs exactly.
Good to know there are sane people out there like you
@@rutvikrs She recomments multiple sources to add more credibility to historic events, otherwise there is a fundamental bias if it's a one sided story.
@@balajivenu8598 like what kind of citation? Could you tell me why she has not backed out of the "17th century cult of Ram worship" hypothesis when archeological evidence contradicted her? One does not need to be familiar with any academic field to know that there is a significant tradition of Rama and ramayan veneration in SE Asia in both Hindu and Buddhist communities.
where is the list of documentaries?
good job..... would appreciate more video from Romila and Teesta
You must be a crazy Jihadi.
Jihadi request for reinforcement.
When I see and listen to her, gets the feeling of Gurumatha who has spent many years in learning and tapasya, and speaking infront of us. India should listen to her and hear what she is trying to tell and on what basis. It is important which direction we take for the future of us and this country. Thank you Dr Romila Thapar for this interview and all that you have done for Indian history.
Romilla Thapar is Most foolish lady
Why does Ms. Setalvad keeps smirking !
The historical past for understanding is right here today in 2022 describing what a particular community or cult have been religiously evolving to what they present themselves as, today. Romila seem to clear out that Indians (hindus) did not have any recorded history. Whereas even Islamic rulers/clans had recorded history which clearly and openly are in praise of mughals desecrating temples and looting more than just 80!! Even in British national library there are books written on how mughals deceivingly massacred hindu armies in Hindu Kush.
Also gotto know from history that the likes of Nalanda university were burnt for months nonstop by mughals that destroyed authentic documents
Teesta carefully avoids awkward question on others but pursues odd questions on Hinduism. Theres no proof that Ganesha was actually a historical existence. She makes it a literary point instead of spiritual
I don't know how to reach her, therefore from this platform I put my question. To me it appears that archaeological evidences and written text as two sources of history and building the past on the basis, pre Buddhist history I mean, is like working on round wholes with square pegs. How historian propose to do with this paradox.
Why don't you try and read some of her work which looks very rigorously at a lot of different sources?
@@raziavitasta Let me give you an example. In her book on Indian History she starts with the sentence that there is no archeological evidence of Arian invasion. Before Wiliam Jones no body spoke of it.
Thanks to Dr R Thapar for sharing her view on a variety of topics relating to ancient India. We all need to shed our biases and 'understand' history as it is. Once is amazed at the way in which mythology is being replaced by history. My earnest request to those who demean her and other historians of repute is to prove their own theories in logical, rational and scientific ways so that they can be examined and debated by the academic community.
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anyone know the reading list she suggested?
Don't read her books written by congress supporter...all distorted ....check rajeev malhotra on y tube your eyes will be open why wrong knowledge given to us
@@haladysheelaprabhuprabhu3024 who is rajeev malhotra?
Dear historian please tell me what happened with Netaji ?
What erudition! Will come back again. Brilliant.
Nice speech respected Emeritus professor , historian Madam !
Thanks
Regards
She is a gem,
Outstanding scholar is Prof Thapar. Salute you, Madam.
*In my opinion this crook lady is Gandhi Family's personal "Historian"*
Great words of wisdom. Hats off to Teesta for this wonderful interview which helps to open up our vision
Pushan Bhattacharya idiot
refused padma but accepted an american honour why ??
Yadvendra Yadav pakka Anti-Hindu half muchurmani suorni
Please read more to understand that . Reminding you how the questions should be . It should be based on evidence . Read about the reason why she refused it and received the Kluge . It's available on Wikipedia
VIjayalakshmi history is extremely selective science in fact it is not a science at all.Problem with any humanities subject like history is that you can come up with a view point and then select evidence based on that to prove your point and that how people like Romila earn their living.I have no problem with that.There is no point debating but i find many of her conclusion against common sense.
terrific!
wrong info...check out rajeev malhotra....and she is a historian not a scientist or archeoligist....
A Great historical narrative!
Only CRUSADERS & JEHADIS like you find this "A Great historical narrative"
Jihadi narrative.
her arguments are quite interesting, she seems to trivialize the plundering/destruction of the temples and calls it a "political power" move........such a simple explanation. SO the destruction of the Bahmani statue was a "political" one I guess??
+tolykozin Have you never read the history of any other nation? All invaders plunder. Hello!
Have you read about the Christian Crusades? Have you read about the Roman Empire?
+Poonam Srivastava Pray please mention the books that you have read so I might have the same enlightened views that you have. One day perhaps the uninformed public might achieve your elevated status. Maybe you should move to a muslim country and get a dose of their form of justice, its quite enhancing you know!
who attacks Jerusalem first ?? Christian had no choice. Poonam who attacked and plundered Iberian peninsula.Read again plz and Romilla belongs to Marxist way of thinking and in this thinking they look at every thing with a materialistic point of view which may not be correct always.Compared to west Indian empire/Kings were quite ahead in term of assimilating different culture and and avoiding conflict.When yashovarman defeted mihirkula the huna he let him go even though huna had killed many.Non violance has been core of Indian society.
I learned so much! Such a pleasure to listen to Romila Thapar's insights! Thank you very much.
1:09:06 which Chronicle ? Plzzz tell the name 🙏
Read her book and find out ig
@@sriramkoottala8106 kindly name the book
@@hammadraza9255 somnath the many voices
Questioning must be core to.inquisitiveness.
Very intriguing interview with discussion on lot of interesting points..thanks for uploading it
2 uneducated fools on the same platform. They should be sent to kala pani for their wrong doings. Shameful females. Just because they can speak english well doesn't mean they can get a clean chit on whatever they say or write.👎😡
Valuable discussion that leads me to getting an idea of thinking for analysing of all versions on particular event happened on ancient period with reasons, evidence.
Learned many elements ---understanding past is History
Roscommon syndrome
thank you.
History is the best JUDGE YOU WILL BE JUDGE BY HISTORY.
Yes,,history is the best judge, & history will judge as the best historian India had got. Because she had won citations from the Library of Congress.
As well as other Universities all over the world.
@@anuradhainamdar8967yes for her anti Indian theories and claims, if the enemy is praising one of our men then it implies that person is working with the enemy...
Library of Congress they don't like India and its progress 😂, she never debated with the experts 😂😂😂 otherwise she would have been exposed
Very nice interview
Enlightening!
Very informative to make Hindus progressive.
Tista..sincere request also work on progressive reform of religion born out of desert and causing violence from inception to till date all over world.
It's a sharp analysis of the history
thank u ramila thapar for her brilliant interpretation of history. pl provide us more speeches of ramila thapar. such speeches can make us enlighten. i have a good collection of ramila thaper;s books and articles.
Curious how many debates were participated by Prof. Romila Thapar.
Also, (Prof) Teesta seems to be very liberal. If she has a journalism degree, I'm sure whoever awarded it would be in Ostrich mode right now!
"The military campaigns of Mahmood Ghaznavi made him controversial personality in the history of South Asia. Mahmood of Ghazni destroyed important Hindu shrine- Krishna Janmabhoomi Temple (known as Kesava Deo Temple) in 1017 AD along with several other Hindu and Buddhist temples in the holy city of Mathura. Mahmud of Ghazni destroyed and looted one of the most sacred temples of Hindus - Somnath Temple in 1025 AD killing over 50,000 people who tried to defend it. Due to this Mahmood Ghaznavi is considered as a looter and plunder by the most of the non-Muslims of South Asia. // Mahmood of Ghazna became the sign of respect and bravery for South Asian Muslim and is considered as their Hero. Mahmood weakened the power of the neighboring rulers as they could not attack over the newly established Muslim state. The booty of war was used to consolidate the power of the state." -
Keep fighting ignorance, Romila. Salute!
Don't worry, she has been paid well by your Congi brothers.
Sorry to say ... Mulzims are the most ignorant people in India ... This lady Just a Stooge of Congress and Communist Party
She said actual things
To make India to advance scientifically,we need development of scientific temperament among Indians.
Till that time there will be no economic development.
If the PM teaches people to drive away Covid 19 by clapping and cheering and showing torches to Mahmari Coviddama.
Till now we have not conquered Coviddama 19.
@@drgalibhussain lul PM did not said clapping will stop covid , he said lets show our gratitude towards the covid worriers .
@@chalke007 thank you for educating that guy! It is in fashion to criticise everything.
Testa is more in to making Romila speak something controversial. Happy to gain a lot of info in spite of teesta’s agenda.
Such an eminent scholar, such a privilege to listen to her... ❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Congratulations on ur indoctrination.
she is historian indoctrinated by Western historian
@surajsinghchauhan9681 you must be duffer to think that. Ms. Thapar is one of the few historians india has ever produced that challenged the western comprehension of india's past. She did it by actually challenging them academically unlike some random human on CZcams.
There is a reason she is highly appreciated in history academia around the world.
@@itachisensei3306😂😂😂😂😂
Salute to hed
Both have never studied primary sources!
I can only laugh at them in 2022 for their ignorance!
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Good historian ❤❤❤❤
Two riding legends…
You can see how much these two peas in a pot politicize history by always referring to the present nationalist government. However, ironically they dont analyze anything about the marxist historiagraphy Romila is part of which is is directly responsible for saffronization of indian history now.
Teesta doesn't ask critical questions and doesn't give the grace of her opponents. But she expects that of her critics. She asks questions in which the answers she can agree with. She says its a "tragedy" that babri mosque is destroyed, which it is, but never uses that word to describe the destruction of indigenous structures by foreign invaders. Ever. She is the typical emotional professional with a vendetta. Not very intelligent.
Professor Thapar, the temple in Somnath which was renovated by Sardar Patel, was a mosque or not. And, if it was, who destroyed it.
Being selective in picking facts to suit a narrative, is not being fact- based.
Truth knows how to survive and how to prevail. You have seen this in how the darling of you and your clan, The Aryan Invasion Theory, has become do disgraceful that you are not even mentioning it now. Same things ng will happen to all lies.
Please take care of yourself.
Treachery Pays handsome amounts and packages📦 😁😁😁🙏
NGO fraud gang Trista sitalwada
सच पचाना सीखो
Keep reading Whatsapp history and live in ignorance....
@@Vipashayana. @Calligraphy with Vipashayana teesta is a missionary paid activist, wanna know her truth watch video of
NEERAJ ATRI, astin k saanp avdhesh kaushal
History is always been seen on present context.i am the present. Groping, past future,indeed present.
wow
I first saw this as a part of my course, I got fascinated by all this, it's a shame to see teesta setalvad get arrested!
*Why she shouldn't ?*
Looks like criminals fascinate you. Psycho!
She speaks in compelling manner, in somanath part she is referring to same controversial Arabic deities which Salman Rushdi has mentioned in his novel Satanic Verses, interesting and fascinating
It is also intriguing that the supposedly greatest Indian historian has publicly claimed that she has no expertise in Indian languages like Sanskrit, Parakrit, Tamil, Pali. Most translations she relies are from European scholars whose translations were funded for the colonial agenda. Her main influence D D Kosambi himself was an amateur hobbyist Historian who dabbled in applying dialectical materialist framework on indian history while he had idle time in his day job in the Indian Statistical Institute. I am as a matter of fact highly intrigued by the idiocy and gullibility of her eulogizers who claim that she is some kind of scientific historian who relies on archaeological and literal scientific evidence. My only guess is that these people are impressed by her authority and pomp and have not read her works where she does not hide her biases and politics. It is pretty open out there and you don't need to be sherlock holmes to discover her Hindu phobia.
Prof. Thapar says points with a lot of knowledge base, supporting with logic. Teesta is biased in proving a point about current regime having a agenda of saffronising education.
Interesting to listen a different view point, she explains very beautifully about the Ganpati/Ganesha elephant head.
Like meets like
My god what a scientific brain of her age
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I'm so happy to hear romila thapar
Professor Romila Thapar - A giant intellect and one of my heroes.
Thanks to digital media that we can hear and watch these great nobels ...they are now not just limit in books.
1:09:50 does prof. know Sanskrit,? It sure does imply so in this statement!
If u r anti hindu u r genius
I am mesmerized by this great lady, truly logical, rational, and wise. A great historian of our time. Brahmin religion cannot accept her.
Ask her about why quoran says earth is flat.
Thank you for such an amazing interview. She is an absolute gem scholar. Please where can I get the list of documents for suggested reading?
I think Prof Thapar's integrity to history is evident from the fact that when Teesta asks if Somanth was raided before Mehmood too she answers a straight no.
What have been Romila Thapar's thoughts about banning of "setanic verses " ?
Wish there was more content of her.
Respect for her
“Scientists are silent” in India probably because they don’t want to be used for any propaganda and also they know they have the last laugh ultimately!!!!
I was just now watching Ganapathi procession where people were singing, dancing to the local rap songs and traditional rhythms simultaneously enjoying themselves , all in the presence of /aided by modern technology (cameras, lights, loud speakers, smartphones). Nobody seemed to care about larger than life (size ) Ganapathi who came last!!!!!. For most simpletons traditions/Gods are a source of entertainment/livelihoods enabled/enhanced by technology/ infotainment !!!! Science/technology has touched them directly like no other Gods ever. Just look at the gadgets/gizmos they are surrounded by!!’ Do scientists need to speak???
That on both sides is the face of deep dishonesty, evil...right there.. all in one frame. Sold out people who got CAUGHT.
india's great historian...
Great Jihadi historian.
what a deadly combo..glad India is still around..
I read her History of India in Penguin (1966) half a century ago. I never realized she was a woman!
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Romila ji thankyou .
Really ...she is a stupid greedy bitch going along with the gras as they are claiming the vedas are theirs ..all texts..all nd well planned the last 200 years and they are ruining our country with the help of congress so we forget this culture of our and eventually believe that usa ..they had the great people who wrote the vedas....check rajeev malhotra the truth is coming out ..with proof
THE WOMAN, I MOST RESPECT............................
Both the fools should know lord Buddha is consider one avatar of lord Vishnu, then why the hindu will distroy the buddh temple or any. By the way the historian like jnu chap had tried to divide hindu in two as aryan and dravid
Then vashav and shav
Then hindu for caste all thou hindu had varna peoples like you made caste.
This communist have habbit to divide in two example
Poor means exploit rich means cruel
Men means cruel another is women means victim. In same they had versus
As
Savera vs dalit
Women vs men
Rich vs poor
Worker vs industries
Government vs nexel
Farmer vs government
The Communist are most dangerous snake and more poisonous then Islamist. If some one had to choice between snake and Communist choice snake. Snake can be kind but Communist cannot.
She is the lady who is being accused of some conspiracy.
Snakes in the Ganga
27:13 Teesta says "threat from a supremacist government"....Did she just allude the present indian govt is like the nazis?
Clearly she has something against this present govt and would probably work for its downfall no matter how much progress this govt makes and would unequivocally deny any thing good about this govt. She is nuts and was totally surprised that Romila bluntly corrected her assumption that somnath was already destroyed many times by earlier indian kings.
+Jocjabes From where I stand Modi is a fascist. He is using his position to enrich himself and nothing else.
there is a difference of views in every era of history... if god forbid your fav govt fails in some promise made to you, will u still support it??
kunal malhotra no
+Poonam Srivastava What is your understanding of Fascism? How much of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism is practiced in India and how much is in your imagination?
N looks like u blindly appreciate the present government
all the fools here calling Romila Thapar should know that she is not even a qualified historian or Archaeology.
All she has is a degree in English literature which she uses to write & speak in a polished manner.
She is 2 Bachelors degree, one on Indian History & other on English Literature, she also has a doctorate on Indian History from University of London. Do your research well
Selective
She is a self anointed academic of selective memory and distortion. Her credo is in question.
"ONLY 18" TEMPLE
80
Reminds me the devil Vlak from Conjuring series.💀💀
Bookmark 7:13
Thanks for sharing truth mam
Prof. Thapar is brilliant. Her way of putting forward her views is brilliant. No doubt. But Are her views are bias-free! She questions whey Arya Bhatta and others' knowledge in mathematics, astronomy etc. did not find continuity unlike with the discoveries of Copernicus etc. which formed basis for modern science in the west. She conveniently avoid mentioning burning of great libraries at Nalanda, Taxasila, etc. during the time of Muslim invasion, which caused discontinuity of knowledge in India. All most all the books were burnt.
Jab 2 confirmed frauds meet
She is absolutely off the mark when she says that Rings were not used in India in ancient times and that Greeks introduced it in our country in ist century bc . Look at the ornaments found in Harappa 👇
What can one say to such highly prejudiced so called eminent historians who blurt out
inaccuracies with such confidence ?
Only 80. Such Small No
She accepted awards given by foreigners whose agend she is spreading
The critique about "plastic surgery " " aeroplanes in ancient India "etc & the process of scientific knowledge and the approach it requires holds water thou .
Mythology can't be passed on as Science .that's stupid to say the least .
Ayurveda teaches basic surgery too and some surgical practices including plastic surgery like were highly developed in ancient India.
Have you read those books written by brahman of kashmir when you cannot read sanskrit how can you had read pali. By the way kashmiri language is so tough that jnu chap cannot understand. Two rand tv one now arrested.
1:14:30 "let's wait for more evidence"
What a load of crap. This discussion of history is totally political. The questions from the presenter “ is very leading” and Thapar is a willing partner. It seems almost planned. Something not right. Only seems that Thapar presumes ANYTHING from a WHITE historian is the global truth and opinion of Indian ones laughable. Very condescending. Hmmmm