How a "Bad" Pokemon Was Once Overpowered in 2014
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Shuckle, 2014
Edited by: tazprods
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0:00 Introduction
1:01 Shuckle Overview
4:32 What Happened in 2014
8:29 Why Shuckle and not other Pokemon?
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Being reminded that Fletchinder and Moltres were in the same tier was like a punch in the face.
What gale wings does to a mf
I miss Gale Wings...
Make Gale wings great again
Damn yall clowning Moltres fr in these comments.
🤣🤣🤣
Unbuckle the Shuckle
Hell nah shuckle the cuckle
Shuck about and find out
Don't fuckle with shuckle
unload the toad
Shuckle unshackled
Video idea: "When lower stats are better"
examples: slow u-turn, lower attack against foul play and confusion, lower speed for trick room, lower stats for hidden power, etc.
Lower stats for hidden Power isn't near as cool as the others (imo it isn't nearly as much of a choice since if you want hp ice you don't really choose much afterwards. Unless you mean weird hp distributions, in which case sure)
add investing 248 evs instead of 252 into hp on hazard weak mons to get an extra switch in
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But pokeaim already made that video idea.
@@FoxxPlushiejust because someone already did it doesn’t mean someone else can’t
i love the graphic at 4:10 showing the pros and cons of sticky web setters and leavanny’s just sitting there at the bottom with its only pro being it has webs
Always remember: Don’t Fuckle with Shuckle
That's why the saying goes
"Don't fuckle with the shuckle"
The very definition of seize your moment, because you never know when it will happen, but when it does, you take it
Freezai’s gonna have to make another one of these once Shuckle gets Body Press
Its not gonna tho
just wait
Straight to AG
252+ Def Choice Band Tera Fighting Shuckle Body Press vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garganacl: 404-476 (100 - 117.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Would it even manage to use it off effectively though? Sure it's an absurdely powerful move, but it's walled by ghost types and is on one of the slowest mons in the game. How much value would it be able to get from it?
I'm slightly sad it wasn't power trick shuckle.
Though, it isn't good. But it's certainly funny to see a shuckle turn into rampardos
Power trick trick room shuckle will have its day, I swear.
As I was watching the start of the video I thought “man that looks like my-“ then I saw my name lmao. Great video as always!!
Theres also gen 7 mix and mega where it was a similar case....with ampharosite. basically most teams then relied on either sablenite, zapdos, landorus-t (which later also got banned from holding mega stones), or mandibuzz to hazard block, since most hazard setters couldnt get through magic bounce, but shuckle could while punishing others with toxic. ampharosite also giving shuckle a good matchup into standard primal groudon also meant that it could punish anything from it with relative safety while scouting its sets, and webs teams could afford to trade hazards with it. it was only further helped by the reliance on zygarde in the tier as the premier altarianite (pixilate) extreme speed user that made it over the top, as you couldnt win by simply being faster and dragonite was restricted while arcanine and entei couldnt ohko before being ohkoed by +1 stab thousand arrows or just +1 thousand arrows into extreme speed. pdon was also just kinda crazy with it too and that was the best mon in the tier that also checked a shit ton of mons so you couldnt exactly remove it either. zyg is/was still debatably broken in that tier, but the ladder is now gone and the banlist was locked at the end of gen 7.
Deadass never knew other Pokémon used Mega stones as a strat
@@agentblackbird9435 They said "mix and mega". It sounds like anyone holding a mega stone can evolve into that mega. So if Shuckle holds an Ampharosite, it can mega evolve into Mega Ampharos. It sounds like a really interesting format.
@@solitare4602Mix and Mega is a permanent Other Metagame, you can still play it if you want. Basically, each stone gives the mon what base stats the mega gained and the ability + any type changes (for example, a pokémon holding a Glalitite would get +40 attack, +40 special attack and +20 speed and the ability Refrigerate)
@@solitare4602 That is bonkers and i love it
@@solitare4602 You don't properly evolve into the mega you used, but you do get all the type, stat and ability changes that the normal pokemon get when mega-evolving
Shuckle is also good for bug monotype teams, as most of the good bug types are perfect with stealth-web support
And then the *other* time Shuckle was overpowered was in VGC, when it had the perfect storm of not just team support but rulesets, it could use Power Trick to give its defenses to an Eviolite Chansey and then stall the opponent out of time.
You mean Guard Split? That was never game defining though and always a gimmick strategy.
It wasn’t overpowered at all, but it was very… VERY irritating to deal with, because it wasn’t just a guard split Chansey, it was a Guard Split Minimize Chansey. You dealt like 2% a hit and all of your moves have the accuracy of Fissure.
I used Shuckle in a Shield playthrough, and after many attempts, I swept Kabu with it. One of my favourite moments in a Pokémon playthrough, that was fun.
Bro you can beat Kabu with an unlit candle
@@jackslaven-hahn2959 litwick?
@@Raymanlegacy unlitwick
@@nellewoodruff6337 he become lit when he absorbs fire moves
I love shuckle all my homies love shuckle
The move Heavy-Duty Boots. Ah yes.
My takeaway is that Shuckle was reliable at getting it up. Thanks Freezai.
Power split is an underrated move
It basically halves either attacking stat, isn’t reset by haze, bypasses magic bounce and clear body, and is generally a great tool for shutting down a powerful attacker
Guard split is really useful in doubles for bolstering a teammate’s defense, just be wary of follow me
I used a dual split shuckle with encore and protect in gen 8 doubles and it was really fun
Giving shuck speed with speed swap ribombee allowing it to disrupt opposing mons was the core idea of my gen 8 monotype doubles team and it worked decently well
The main issue of Power Split is that when opponents switch out, which they usually do, their stats reset but due to Shuckle now having far too high stats, it can't reliably use the move again. It's essentially Charm/Eerie Impulse if it was a one time only move, and overall it's worse than Noble Roar, which can at least be stacked.
Guard Split was once a (not even that good) gimmick with Chansey, but aside from that it's not too great. Basically you give up a turn for a +1 to your partner's defenses on average, and for that you turn Shuckle into glass.
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 It’s used to kill their momentum, plus if it’s their last pokemon they’re done
@@jonathanwilliams225 that holds true for Noble Roar as well, just even more because it can be stacked. And Noble Roar already is a pretty bad move.
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 like i said, main difference is that it bypasses abilities like clear body and magic bounce. Good for catching Hatterene off guard
@@jonathanwilliams225 that is an extreme niche case. Again, Noble Roar and its variations already are bad moves. Power Split is an inferior version to that since it can't be stacked and can't be used properly when an opponent switches out until you switch out again.
Its literal only use is when your opponent has a last mon Hatterene, and even in those cases something like Perish Song would be far superior. So it's worse than an already bad move in pretty much any case besides one insanely rare care, in which it's still worse than other moves. That is not an underrated move, that is an awful one.
I have uncovered a patern in which sticky webs are good in meta games with an already powerful Ghost/Steel pokemon and an offensive Defiant staple.
True but Kingambit almost always runs Supreme Overlord in singles
@@chardawg5911 okay you got me, I admit I don't play singles
The editing is fire my guy. Such ane asy vid to watch, keep it up g
Shuckle is my favorite Pokemon, it's already great to see getting love. It would be a menace if it got an evolution that evened out its hp with its defenses
Boomburst
Secondary Effect: IT HITS HARD
This got me good
I got to #400 in the world on ubers using shuckle as my lead, i would use mental herb or custap berry, custap allowed shuckle to outspeed if hit down to its sturdy thus setting both sticky web and stealth rock, id always try to bait out their zacian and then throw choice scarf ditto(he gets zacians intrepid sword twice, essentially turning into scarfed swords dance zacian, funny enough the best counter for this strategy was oblivious quagsire who i started to see more and more as i went up in tiers
Really appreciate how you explain the meta
Your music choices for these videos are always peak
I was not prepared for the awesomeness of Freezai putting an effort on the music
Shuckle is a fan favourite pokemon
Shuckle also had a very prominent place in gen 8 bdsp ru. And yes, it was paired with Exploud, which dominated the tier post its initial bans.
"If you control the speed, you control the game"
Perish Song be like:
Speed still matters there but ok
Can you imagine playing a Draft League. Your are a gifted player, love the weird and crazy and creative sets of Gen 3. Also you make well edited videos. I think Id love to watch you do Draft :)
The Dorkly Bits Shuckle will always be the canon Shuckle in my mind. I hear that voice whenever he pops up in one of these more serious Pokemon videos. It's permanent.
hey, the production value has been on the rise lately. congrats
fun fact this wasnt the only time shuckle had tiering action against it! in gen 7 mix and mega in like 2017 shuckle got restricted from mega evolving due to its ability to get webs up guarenteed regardless of what you do because of mold breaker after mega and sturdy pre mega
Gets even crazier when it evolves into Shuckthehellup. Organ Harvest is such a broken move.
"How the fuck do you kill him?" "How the fuck do you kill him?" "How the fuck do you kill him?" "Well gg shuckle"
Dont fuckle with shuckle 😤😤😤
Don't fuckle with Shuckle.
The eternal phrase holds true.
That background by Coromon at 1:48 is beautiful!
My favorite moment in all of showdown: my zeroark got the final KO in a very close game… disguised as dynamax shuckle! “Shuckle used max DANKness!!!”
Love that thumbnail
The first three seconds alone make for an instant like
Omg seeing footage from flamingspade bring me back old memory
Nice Pokeathlon music. :)
Seeing old clips from TheFlamingSpade brings back memories
SHUCKLE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉
LOL THE KRICKETUNE BIT
One day shuckle will get an evolution and eviolite shuckle will be born
I used a shuckle with sticky web, power split, encore, and toxic in old gens
Moral of the story: Don't Fuckle With Shuckle
Look at that, Dorkly
Can someone explain to me how the base 20 health yet base 230 sp/defence thing works?
Is it that it takes a lot to knock off a HP but it doesn't have many? In which case, would this be the same as having base 40 health and base 115 sp/defence (ignoring EV/IVs).
With base stats it's a bit iffy because they don't 100% depend on base stats, but yes if a mon had 200 hp, 500 def and 500 spdef, it would be exactly the same as 400 hp, 250 def and 250 spdef. 244 hp and 614 def, which is the maximum shuckle can have, is equal to 488hp and 307 def, which you'd get with 142 base hp and 90 base def.
So Shuckle having 20 hp and 230 (sp)def would be equal to having 142 hp and 90 (sp)def. Its bulk is ultimately similar to Vaporeon if its spdef was as high as its defense, or generally Umbreon.
307 def is 91 base defense. 306 and below is 90
I wanna use a gen 6 ru team on the nat dex ladder to see how far I can go. Gen 6 RU was legit the highest I’ve ever gotten on the ladder (337)
Today I learned Freezai is a Sonic enjoyer
I was naming every pokemon and i was missing one i gave up it was shuckle if I clicked to youtube i would have seen it this was the first video I saw
Great video btw
I LOVE SHUCKLE YEEEEAAAAH LETS GOOO
Only two shuckle's ive ever used was in gen 7 (i was weird there, sash marshadow, psyduck, riolu...). One was lvl 1, sturdy berry juice for free rocks webs, and a contrary shell smash for maniacal laughter
could you make a vid on mega-banette? personally one of my favorites, and a really interesting rise over the years
Buckle up, knuckle down, and don't fuckle with Shuckle or you'll have to struggle
Shuckle ❤
this is the best day of my life
Hail the king!
Power trick shuckle wya
Shuckle is a fan favourite pokemon.
Ubers ƯU would make a fire video
Yo Freezai! Just a heads up, at 7:24 it says HJK is 100% accurate. That would be kind of crazy lmao
Ran sticky web shuckle on a HO bug team in gen 8 monotype, with final gambit it was a pretty decent suicide lead
Sticky Web, a U-Turn type support move.
Some sound effects area a bit too loud freezai! great vid
Hey there, been a long-time fan.
Vid Idea: Mons that are good in RandBats, but aren’t in normal tiers
4:20 that was so personal
The time where Shuckle is in OU after gens ago is the time where the world was shocked
Shoutouts to Shuckle also being a prominent Sticky Web setter in Gen 8 Ubers
In gens 6,7,8 I used it as a web steath rock setter. The thing carried me to many a win.
Sticky Web is also a popular strat in Little Cup
Shuckie with 20 atk but being able to deal the most damage of all pokemon
Ngl Shuckle would go crazy in Gen 9
I used shuckle a few times in sword/shield vgc, and my favorite moment was when he eventually beat a registeel in a 1v1 because my opponent ignored the infestation for too long
3:54 ah yes, heavy duty boots, my favorite move
jk, great vid
Didnt know that heavy duty boots was a move
Do you remember when galvantula got sticky web in gen 6 and it become a ou stable😂
My only non-iffy shiny (from a gen 6 friend farm)I love shuckle
I remeber watching Joe wreck the gen 7 ladder w/ shuckle. Good times
Shcukle need a paradox form that inverts his stats
Great video. The menu selection noise is a little too loud.
Don’t Fuckle with the Shuckle
Would've been nice for the offensive Shuckle builds to at least get some mention in the starting section of this video. It isn't a solely defensive Pokémon. If u can eliminate an opp's physical attackers, u can swap Shuckle's massive def stat with its abysmal attack stat n get an insane sweeper to clean up the opponent's special attackers n support Pokémon. Worked best in doubles where u could use Follow Me or Rage Powder to pull aggro from physical attackers n controllers to allow Shuckle to set up n then sweep with Rockslide
I love freezai
The best thing about shuckle is guard split in doubles it makes evolite Pokémon unstoppable u can genuinely make little cup
Mon sweep legendaries with that 1 simple move
i love you shuckle
Max Sp.Atk Modest shuckle with power split (not the popular "power •trick•" move) with 3 Sp.Atk moves, use Power Split on the enemy Sp.Sweeper to steal like haf their Sp.Atk, have fun!
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I'll reply to myself with a more in-depth explanation but it's a lot of words lol
I enjoy running Modest Max Sp.Atk Max HP shuckle with 3 special attacks and power swap (not the normal "power trick"), which finds the avg between shuckle's and the opponent's Atk & Sp.Atk stats.
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Obviously you want to use it on an enemy with a high Sp.atk, nearly cutting their stat in half, & bringing yours up quite a bit
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(I haven't run the numbers but it might even be close to or better than a nasty plot & it also lowers the enemy's stat, so kind of like a nasty plot plus a Sp.Atk lowering move in one)
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With 3 special moves, 1 bug, 1 rock, 1 coverage, it doesn't rock the world or anything but it is a really bulky special Attacker.
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Yes in some ways its like a regular bulky Sp. Attacker that gives up a turn but I don't think it's that bad as it cripples the Sp.Atk stat of the enemy Sp.sweeper in the process, slightly better than taking a bulky pokemon & having it use nasty plot turn 1
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Please let me know your impressions of the idea :) it's a ton of words to describe but in practice it is simple:
Get shuckle, build it the way described, press 1 move on a Special sweeper 😊
Hit her up and asked her to shuckle below the buckle
Poor Krickitune😢.
Sticky Web power trick sweep
Are we going to get the rest of smogon champions league?
3:42 and mortal spin
Melmetal the shuckle destroyed was needed there
Give Shuckle Body Press, Shucky deserves it.
4:31
It really is a godlike Usmash
Trust me I know
you missed the best set, defence curl rollout
Fun fact: Shuckle would've been ubers in gen 8 if ubers was a usage based tier. Also, shuckle got banned from gen 7 mix and mega as well.