Have a combination King Stone and homemade leather strop, watching your videos really helped me hone my sharpening skills. Thanks for all the information.
Thank you so much for doing your videos. I just got this knife last week as a birthday gift and it has been fun to use around the restaurant. Haven't gotten a chance to sharpen it yet but now i cant wait! Cheers
Time and time again, you prove that it is more down to technique than kit. Yes, Shapton are very nice stones, but they're not necessary to get an excellent edge on your knife. Practise is key! Keep up the excellent work!!
In listening to the cutting of the Shapton v leather strop, the knife stropped on Shapton glass sounded like a higher pitch. I'd say slightly cleaner. As several have stated below, I'd also like to see a pocket knife 3-4" sharpened.
I've really wanted to get into knife sharpening but always felt like it wouldn't be worth it if you don't buy an expensive stone, but this video made me invest in the 20 dollar stone. Gonna be a new potential fun hobby.
innemannen if you do any cutting or chopping then it's worth it, once you get the hang of it that it's... Lol the first knife I sharped to me an hour and was barely able to do a push cut, but as you saw in the video once you know what your doing only takes 10 minutes. Best of luck and don't give up.
I've got a stone that my grandfather used during WWII. It's about 4" by 2" and it's rough! I can take it and make my kitchen knives push cut paper. Takes time but it's all about technique. As long as the abrasive will cut the steel, with the right technique you can sharpen a knife. That said, I have a couple dozen premium stones but it's more aesthetic than anything. Certain steels look better on certain stones.
I totally agree with his assessment at the end -- the strop has a cleaner edge based on sound. I think it matters more what you finish with than what you start with when it comes to sharpening, which is why the super smooth strop put a finer edge than the Shapton glass. Still, if I had lots of money, I'd just have a 16,000# Shapton ;-)
The power of the strop. When I discovered stropping I was amazed at the difference. I continue to be amazed. I would not sharpen with out them. Just leather alone works. Add a small amount of Green Chrome compound and it’s even better.
RyKy, You're the Bob Ross of knife sharpening lol That's a good thing! You should change your motto to, "Happy Knife, Happy Life!" Thanks for all your great videos, Godbless...
Thanks ryky for the amazing link with the rust erasers These actually ship to Switzerland You can imagine how it is if most items on amazon say : this item does not shipt to Switzerland 🇨🇭 😭😭😭😭😭 Thanks
Hey I can tell a difference. I’m musician and I’m used to compare things by how they sound. Actually the more expensive sounded cleaner than the cheaper sharpening stone.
Ignore those some people. I am all in for the asmr goodness from this sharpening process. PS: I kinda missed the old clean classic white background on your wall :(
Nevermind the haters. You're obviously passionate about what you're doing here. A link to the conclusion as a comment might help though. I personally enjoy watching the whole thing.
For me it was one of your best videos. Answered many questions for me but I still have one question. We're your knives as sharp as you can cut hairs on your forearm?
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat, And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .
I have a king s-1 6k stone, and I bought some rust erasers based off your videos talking about them. I found that on the king s-1 if you clean it with a rust eraser after each use it starts to develop a weird feel to it. It gets a kind of bumpy and almost rough feeling, that seems to go away after flattening the stone or if you use a nagura. Thought you would want to know about it and maybe do a little testing on it see if thats normal or maybe I just got one thats a bit off.
Hey man! Great channel. It would really help me out if you would let me know how you applied the compound on your home made strop. there are tons of conflicting videos out there saying you need to apply heat, or you should use the rough side of the leather. Last week I finished making a home made paddle strop and my green compound doesn't seem too want to adhere to the smooth side of my leather. It just builds up and flakes off and if i apply heat it turns into a powder. I'm using the wax like green compound that's suggested in most videos, so I'd like to know how you got it to adhere to the smooth side of your leather in order too find out what I'm doing wrong.
I invested in the kickstarter, Edge of Belgrave Damascus set, which has a hardness of 58-60 according to their site. Just wondering what stones I should go with for daily maintenance?
get the best you can afford if you enjoy sharpening on great stones, and plan on hand sharpening for a while. my pick is the 800 and 3000 amzn.to/2uKHPVP here is my list of best picks so far kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Please do a review/demo of a Belgian Blue Whetstone. I've heard they are pretty good but not getting on with mine so using shapton glass for the moment. They're great! I would like to master the natural blue, Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
I've got a couple dozen stones, natural and synthetic. I really disliked my Belgian blue stone. It's like sharpening with different stones at the same time, so the edge aesthetics suffer. It's just not consistent. I gave it away actually.
If your glass stone is slower than a chosera it is probably because the surface is not properly prepared, it looks like it glazes too much and seem way too slick for its grit. You should groom the surface with a diamond plate every use, not a lot just to cut the abrasive. That way the stone will load less and feel more abrasive giving more tactile feedback. Those rust eraser really are not my favorite thing to clean stones they seem to leave a dulled abrasive on the stone.
Hello from Down Under Ryky, thank you for doing what you do. It spurred me to get myself a set of Shapton Glass stones from barber and shaving supplies of all places. No kitchen supply stores I've searched offer them in Australia. The shaving stores also only sell stones in grits suited for razors, not really kitchen knives. I've noticed that Shapton USA recently stopped doing business and read that the glass stones are no longer being produced/restocked. Do you have any knowledge if these are rumours or if there's any truth to them?
hey there. Shapton has lost their original distributor in the US because the distributor had really poor business practices. i don't think there is a new distributor yet, but there are companies that will continue to buy direct from Shapton Japan.
Hello! I have a Wüsthof Knife and I bought myself 2 dual whetstones (400/1000/3000/8000) tried to sharpen them according to your videos. The Problem is that it's nowhere near as sharp as in the Video even die you did it only with one whetstone. What am I doing wrong? Any tips?
Nora Die H0e you won't need the 300 grit stone as you need it only for knives that lost all of it's sharpness to recreate the angle. so just use start with the 1000grit stone. With the 300 you might havrcreated another angle
Recently picked up wetstone sharpening as a new interest and skill set and have purchased and been enjoying using the sharp pebble 400/1000 stone. I have sharpened every knife in my home haha and the 400 grit side is half way eaten away with a concave profile towards the center, no matter how much i attempt to use the entire surface of the stone but the 1000 grit still looks fairly new. With the 400 grit side already half way gone i'm wondering if when i'm going to have to purchase a new stone and I'm wondering if there are any other good budget options, it seems as though the prices of these stones are going up on amazon and I am wondering if your reviews are to blame haha just kidding. Also on another note I've also picked up some vegetable tanned cowhide and buffing compound for stropping. I haven't been getting much luck with the smooth side of the cowhide, it almost seems to be dulling my cutting edge more than making it sharper perhaps i'm doing something wrong? I've had more luck using leather from an old welding glove which has more of a suede like finish as a strop and have had amazing results with that. I still have some cowhide left over perhaps i'll try using the rough side instead of the smooth side.
for a 400 grit stone, just pick up the cheapest you can find. i only use that grit once or twice a year. can't really comment on your stropping. are you applying pressure when you strop on leather? i apply NO pressure at all.
Thank you for the feed back, I've come to enjoy learning and working on my wet stone techniques getting consistent angles, it is oddly relaxing and your videos are quite helpful. And have come to realize yes i have been applying pressure to the leather strop causing it to eat into my cutting edge this is why i was getting a dull edge with 1/8" thick cowhide and a sharper polished edge on a thin piece of cheap leather stapled to a wood plank, still learning.
Caide Lander use of the corners of stones helps in sharpening them. Using sweeping strokes to make even bevel to start is key. Then when finishing the edge make a scratch pattern perpendicular to the edge itself. Ensure you are removing material evenly and working the heel of the blade. The theory behind sharpening would be the same otherwise.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strop the Shaptons before you say that the other stone and strop combo did better. I tried the Sharp Pebble once and had a terrible experience. The grits were off, it went completely concave after only sharpening 8 steak knives, and when I asked for a refund, I had to argue with the company for weeks before they finally gave it to me. And when I left my review, they harassed me for weeks over email trying to get me to take down my negative review. One guy even found me on Facebook and tried to harass me there too. So no offense to you, but I gag a little bit every time you talk favorably about this stone. The only good thing about the Sharp Pebble for me was that it was the needed push to get my Shapton GlassStone set.
everyone has a right to their opinion. sorry, to hear you had a bad experience with sharp pebble. i have found it to be a very good performing stone so far.
Burrfection I mean, I'm not trying to make you change your opinion of the stone you have. But I do think you should consider the company and how it handles such problems when making recommendations. The one I got didn't make a terrible edge, but I was able to make a better edge freehanding on Lansky Pro stones for about the same money spent.
TrungLeNOLA Yea why the hell would you make videos about knives and sharpen them without even using them. It's not even a review it's more like being Happy getting free shit
29 times a new off record lmbo, so have you ever heard the saying your words are living?? stop saying you can't count you are just reinforcing it with your mouth! stop it!! :) :D any who had a thought have not seen any videos with naniwa's new series from you Gouken Deluxe I have a 1200grit but no more of this line looking at the 4000grit and 8000grit also have a 12000 super stone
Welcome! Thank you for the videos you make there quite a lot of excellent content/information, I do love my 12,000 Naniwa superstone works excellent but 1,200 to 12,000 is not very good idea, how ever I did get a couple cheapness stones to cover that gap till can afford some more Naniwa's
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat, And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .
![My New [ SHAPTON GLASS ] Sharpening Stones!](/img/n.gif)
Have a combination King Stone and homemade leather strop, watching your videos really helped me hone my sharpening skills. Thanks for all the information.
Only saw one of your vids, but you're like the bob Ross for knive sharpening
Little happy knives...
I’ve got a happy wetstone
Thank you so much for doing your videos. I just got this knife last week as a birthday gift and it has been fun to use around the restaurant. Haven't gotten a chance to sharpen it yet but now i cant wait!
Cheers
have fun with it
Time and time again, you prove that it is more down to technique than kit. Yes, Shapton are very nice stones, but they're not necessary to get an excellent edge on your knife.
Practise is key! Keep up the excellent work!!
thanks, Tron! just keeping it real
it's not stones that do the sharpening
Count von count instantly popped into my head and started counting as you dulled the knives. Thanks Sesame Street 👍
In listening to the cutting of the Shapton v leather strop, the knife stropped on Shapton glass sounded like a higher pitch. I'd say slightly cleaner. As several have stated below, I'd also like to see a pocket knife 3-4" sharpened.
hahah. will pick up some pocket knives soon enough.
I've really wanted to get into knife sharpening but always felt like it wouldn't be worth it if you don't buy an expensive stone, but this video made me invest in the 20 dollar stone. Gonna be a new potential fun hobby.
innemannen if you do any cutting or chopping then it's worth it, once you get the hang of it that it's... Lol the first knife I sharped to me an hour and was barely able to do a push cut, but as you saw in the video once you know what your doing only takes 10 minutes. Best of luck and don't give up.
Thanks, we have some pretty dull kitchen knives to begin with so unless I completely deform it I'm sure it can't get much worse haha
Another great Vid, i have improved my sharpening technique so much. Thanks, keep up the great work.
right on, Chris. keep up the great work.
I've got a stone that my grandfather used during WWII. It's about 4" by 2" and it's rough! I can take it and make my kitchen knives push cut paper. Takes time but it's all about technique. As long as the abrasive will cut the steel, with the right technique you can sharpen a knife. That said, I have a couple dozen premium stones but it's more aesthetic than anything. Certain steels look better on certain stones.
Dude is the Bob Ross of cutlery and I love it.
Another great video, love the way you present! Keep it up!!!
thanks Moses, just doing my best.
I totally agree with his assessment at the end -- the strop has a cleaner edge based on sound. I think it matters more what you finish with than what you start with when it comes to sharpening, which is why the super smooth strop put a finer edge than the Shapton glass. Still, if I had lots of money, I'd just have a 16,000# Shapton ;-)
The power of the strop. When I discovered stropping I was amazed at the difference. I continue to be amazed. I would not sharpen with out them. Just leather alone works. Add a small amount of Green Chrome compound and it’s even better.
Steve Ledbetter can i use a old leather belt as strop?
I love long vids while im doing paperwork! So awesome
haha. that's a first i've heard of someone playing my videos during homework. thanks !
RyKy, You're the Bob Ross of knife sharpening lol That's a good thing! You should change your motto to, "Happy Knife, Happy Life!" Thanks for all your great videos, Godbless...
29. 29 strokes. How dare you!
ahorowitz15 is he must trolling us at this point? He keeps it up, we go confiscate that brick.
What do you want - twenty strokes and the fun's over?
Jean-Yves Mead I see what you did there
ahorowitz15 the outrage!! Bahaha :)
@@jean-yvesmead3972 😂😂
Thanks ryky for the amazing link with the rust erasers
These actually ship to Switzerland
You can imagine how it is if most items on amazon say : this item does not shipt to Switzerland 🇨🇭
😭😭😭😭😭
Thanks
Btw your 3 camera system (again) is amazing
right on! they are great, and you'll love them. thanks for the input!
Hey I can tell a difference. I’m musician and I’m used to compare things by how they sound. Actually the more expensive sounded cleaner than the cheaper sharpening stone.
Ignore those some people. I am all in for the asmr goodness from this sharpening process.
PS: I kinda missed the old clean classic white background on your wall :(
hahah. may bring it back at some point.
Thank you kindly sir!
Nevermind the haters. You're obviously passionate about what you're doing here. A link to the conclusion as a comment might help though. I personally enjoy watching the whole thing.
thanks, friend. stay in touch.
For me it was one of your best videos. Answered many questions for me but I still have one question. We're your knives as sharp as you can cut hairs on your forearm?
hahah. who knows. i have no hair on my arms to test that question
Burrfection haha, shiieet :D
Thank you for your video . But I really want to see cutting test on real food than paper.
Very nice thank you
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat,
And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .
'I'm going to use my.. rusty razor here'
WHAT?!
OHHHH... RUST ERASER
Awesome video 👌🏻
Hello! How do you think, what sharpening stick is better steel or ceramic?
Would be interesting to see your sharpening skills with a straight razor please & thank you :)
just picked some up and will be testing my skills, as you mentioned
Dickson Lee you see
He cares about his subs
He isnt like others
Good old leather strop makes all the difference, haha. Nice comparison, man.
haha. they are fun to use, and simply throwing my knives on a strop every 3-4 days, has saved me TONS of time from hand sharpening.
What do you think of The Shapton Kuromaku Stones ceramic stones 5000 and 8000 grit
I have a king s-1 6k stone, and I bought some rust erasers based off your videos talking about them. I found that on the king s-1 if you clean it with a rust eraser after each use it starts to develop a weird feel to it. It gets a kind of bumpy and almost rough feeling, that seems to go away after flattening the stone or if you use a nagura.
Thought you would want to know about it and maybe do a little testing on it see if thats normal or maybe I just got one thats a bit off.
thanks for the update.
Yep, the strop edged out the high dollar stones
as long as the knife's edge is fairly fresh, i agree.
Hey man! Great channel. It would really help me out if you would let me know how you applied the compound on your home made strop. there are tons of conflicting videos out there saying you need to apply heat, or you should use the rough side of the leather. Last week I finished making a home made paddle strop and my green compound doesn't seem too want to adhere to the smooth side of my leather. It just builds up and flakes off and if i apply heat it turns into a powder. I'm using the wax like green compound that's suggested in most videos, so I'd like to know how you got it to adhere to the smooth side of your leather in order too find out what I'm doing wrong.
will do a video for this topic SOON.
Awesome video as always. 👍👍 but what do you think about the wusthof Ceramic Whetstone?
will be getting some soon
RYKY kicks ass!
hahah. just keeping it real.
what scale (A, B or C) on the Rockwell?
I invested in the kickstarter, Edge of Belgrave Damascus set, which has a hardness of 58-60 according to their site. Just wondering what stones I should go with for daily maintenance?
get the best you can afford if you enjoy sharpening on great stones, and plan on hand sharpening for a while. my pick is the 800 and 3000 amzn.to/2uKHPVP
here is my list of best picks so far kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Please do a review/demo of a Belgian Blue Whetstone.
I've heard they are pretty good but not getting on with mine so using shapton glass for the moment. They're great!
I would like to master the natural blue, Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
I've got a couple dozen stones, natural and synthetic. I really disliked my Belgian blue stone. It's like sharpening with different stones at the same time, so the edge aesthetics suffer. It's just not consistent. I gave it away actually.
If your glass stone is slower than a chosera it is probably because the surface is not properly prepared, it looks like it glazes too much and seem way too slick for its grit. You should groom the surface with a diamond plate every use, not a lot just to cut the abrasive. That way the stone will load less and feel more abrasive giving more tactile feedback. Those rust eraser really are not my favorite thing to clean stones they seem to leave a dulled abrasive on the stone.
appreciate the comment, but the glass stones have NEVER been faster than the Choseras, brand new, or after being used.
Hello from Down Under Ryky, thank you for doing what you do. It spurred me to get myself a set of Shapton Glass stones from barber and shaving supplies of all places. No kitchen supply stores I've searched offer them in Australia. The shaving stores also only sell stones in grits suited for razors, not really kitchen knives. I've noticed that Shapton USA recently stopped doing business and read that the glass stones are no longer being produced/restocked. Do you have any knowledge if these are rumours or if there's any truth to them?
hey there. Shapton has lost their original distributor in the US because the distributor had really poor business practices. i don't think there is a new distributor yet, but there are companies that will continue to buy direct from Shapton Japan.
Hello! I have a Wüsthof Knife and I bought myself 2 dual whetstones (400/1000/3000/8000) tried to sharpen them according to your videos. The Problem is that it's nowhere near as sharp as in the Video even die you did it only with one whetstone. What am I doing wrong? Any tips?
Nora Die H0e you won't need the 300 grit stone as you need it only for knives that lost all of it's sharpness to recreate the angle. so just use start with the 1000grit stone. With the 300 you might havrcreated another angle
Have you ever done the Shun Taiyo before, Ryky? If not, would really like to see that knife on your channel.
getting some Shuns here soon, but not sure about the Taiyo.
Hey... so I have a $20 chinatown whetstone. Probably 300-600 grit. Can I use that grit, and then followup with a 1000 grit and 5000 polish?
yes
Recently picked up wetstone sharpening as a new interest and skill set and have purchased and been enjoying using the sharp pebble 400/1000 stone. I have sharpened every knife in my home haha and the 400 grit side is half way eaten away with a concave profile towards the center, no matter how much i attempt to use the entire surface of the stone but the 1000 grit still looks fairly new.
With the 400 grit side already half way gone i'm wondering if when i'm going to have to purchase a new stone and I'm wondering if there are any other good budget options, it seems as though the prices of these stones are going up on amazon and I am wondering if your reviews are to blame haha just kidding.
Also on another note I've also picked up some vegetable tanned cowhide and buffing compound for stropping. I haven't been getting much luck with the smooth side of the cowhide, it almost seems to be dulling my cutting edge more than making it sharper perhaps i'm doing something wrong?
I've had more luck using leather from an old welding glove which has more of a suede like finish as a strop and have had amazing results with that.
I still have some cowhide left over perhaps i'll try using the rough side instead of the smooth side.
for a 400 grit stone, just pick up the cheapest you can find. i only use that grit once or twice a year.
can't really comment on your stropping. are you applying pressure when you strop on leather? i apply NO pressure at all.
Thank you for the feed back, I've come to enjoy learning and working on my wet stone techniques getting consistent angles, it is oddly relaxing and your videos are quite helpful. And have come to realize yes i have been applying pressure to the leather strop causing it to eat into my cutting edge this is why i was getting a dull edge with 1/8" thick cowhide and a sharper polished edge on a thin piece of cheap leather stapled to a wood plank, still learning.
Have you used or considering reviewing the Wicked Edge WE-130 sharpening system? It's supposed to take out most of the human error in sharpening.
will do so in a few months
Cool! I'll look for it.
What did you do the reduction in strokes before the strop?
cleans the edge better.
old tiles work fine.
any advice on sharpening recurve edges
Caide Lander that's a good question!
Caide Lander but since it doesn't involve kitchen knives I don't think it's related
Caide Lander use of the corners of stones helps in sharpening them. Using sweeping strokes to make even bevel to start is key. Then when finishing the edge make a scratch pattern perpendicular to the edge itself.
Ensure you are removing material evenly and working the heel of the blade.
The theory behind sharpening would be the same otherwise.
thanks any other advice is super helpful
Could i go from a dmt 1200 grit stone to a shapton 6000? I have all four grits from dmt so i just want to add one more finer grit stone.
Yes but don't expect a mirror polish
How does the whetstone cutlery 400/1000 compare to the sharp pebble 400/1000 combo?
Samuel Tan they are the exact same stone
Have you ever used or are you planning to test some Coticule and Belgian Blue Whetstones?
never have, and no one the US seems to carry them .
Good news!
what was that little thing called that you used to clean your stone?
I'm sure it's his trusty rust eraser. I bought one myself, it's great!
Thanks mate
this amzn.to/2tSrJui
Oh Asis its also at the top
He puts everything into the description
@@Burrfection awesome
90F degrees?
That's cute... I'm roasting over here at 130F :)
haha. leave
Burrfection Uuuuuhhh... what's up with the hostility?
Everything alright, dude?
How well does the 400 side on the budget stone fare?
wears relatively quickly, but a good grit for small and easy repairs
what do you think on sharpening on sand paper?
Rolez Alz he had a video this on his channel. Worked well but requires skill to avoid cutting the paper
i've done. go to my channel and look at the most recent... 5-6 videos.
So what justify your love for whetstone that cost 200-1000 each?
Aside pure pleasure:)
That is all
I SOOO much want to see the edges of both knifes under a microscope after the sharpening ... XD
I wouldn't have known the fan was running if you didn't say anything.
good to know!
lol, people are funny! At least, you spoke normally unless some people say the word "LIKE" in every sentence. LOL, I'm "LIKE" You "LIKE" .....lol
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I think that I bought exactly same stone (10-20 $) for 80 cents. ;)
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strop the Shaptons before you say that the other stone and strop combo did better. I tried the Sharp Pebble once and had a terrible experience. The grits were off, it went completely concave after only sharpening 8 steak knives, and when I asked for a refund, I had to argue with the company for weeks before they finally gave it to me. And when I left my review, they harassed me for weeks over email trying to get me to take down my negative review. One guy even found me on Facebook and tried to harass me there too. So no offense to you, but I gag a little bit every time you talk favorably about this stone. The only good thing about the Sharp Pebble for me was that it was the needed push to get my Shapton GlassStone set.
everyone has a right to their opinion. sorry, to hear you had a bad experience with sharp pebble. i have found it to be a very good performing stone so far.
Burrfection I mean, I'm not trying to make you change your opinion of the stone you have. But I do think you should consider the company and how it handles such problems when making recommendations. The one I got didn't make a terrible edge, but I was able to make a better edge freehanding on Lansky Pro stones for about the same money spent.
Next time just say; Im gonna run the knife a couple of times on the brick ;)
good suggestion.
If you are worried about snowflakes complaining about your counting tell them “I am going to destroy the edge on my brick count if you would like” :)
Whatchu mean experimental things lmao. That's so sus lol
Long story short, save your money, buy the knockoffs lol.
Makes so many videos about knives but you don't cut a damn thing but a little magazine
yup
you also cut bricks haha
Burrfection he wants to see you cut lame tomatoes test haha!
TrungLeNOLA Yea why the hell would you make videos about knives and sharpen them without even using them. It's not even a review it's more like being Happy getting free shit
29 times a new off record lmbo, so have you ever heard the saying your words are living?? stop saying you can't count you are just reinforcing it with your mouth! stop it!! :) :D any who had a thought have not seen any videos with naniwa's new series from you Gouken Deluxe I have a 1200grit but no more of this line looking at the 4000grit and 8000grit also have a 12000 super stone
i will be doing a whole series of vides on the stones you just asked about. working on it. thanks for the encouragement.
Welcome! Thank you for the videos you make there quite a lot of excellent content/information, I do love my 12,000 Naniwa superstone works excellent but 1,200 to 12,000 is not very good idea, how ever I did get a couple cheapness stones to cover that gap till can afford some more Naniwa's
STOP PROMOTING DALSTRONG... I SEE DALSTRONG, I DOWNVOTE
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat,
And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .