Amishman (Ben) explains: How I choose a horse ($$, wife horse vs. teenager horse)
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2022
- In this video, my friend Ben explains how he chooses & buys buggy horses for himself & his family.
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My name is Erik Wesner and I'm not Amish. Back in 2004, I met the Amish while selling books. Since then, I've visited 5,000+ Amish homes & dozens of Amish communities. My book on Amish business, Success Made Simple: An Inside Look at Why Amish Businesses Thrive, was published in 2010. I run the Amish America website: amishamerica.com/
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I hope they treat their horses good.. I’ve seen some horse rescues from Amish places that were very sad
Hi Erik, I am surprised at the price they pay for an animal. The "trotters" are very pretty horses and safety is so important. Once in Parke County a young Amish man was having some difficulty with his horse not wanting to cross the highway. We were travelling and wanted to turn as we came upon his situation. I'm glad we were going slow at the time. He was able to get the horse under control and moved on but it was scary to me. I was also surprised at what they pay for a buggy and even a "scooter". I love seeing the little kids and their pony carts, they are just so cute. I always enjoy your content and look forward to the next video!! God Bless
Thank Susie! These are probably higher prices than Amish in a lot of other settlements will be paying. I know some of them can be tricky so Ben's point about roadworthiness is very valid...maybe the most important thing for some buyers. I've seen it occasionally as well, people having trouble controlling them. Nice to hear about Parke County I was in that community once but it's been 15+ years:)
The prices for horses have gone through the roof!
Ah, he sounds like me when looking into a new vehicle. I don't want a sports horse 👀, just a point 'A' to point 'B' horse that will get me there and get me home without any issues.
That was fascinating, I always appreciate your clarity and brevity
That was so nice to hear about the Amish way how they buy horses and how much they cost keep the great videos coming when are you going to Holmes County Ohio I love that area of Ohio thanks
Thanks and glad you liked it! I learn a lot when I'm around Ben
Horses cost more than my car is worth... Is hay cheaper than gas??? LOL.. I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! Very informative.
Thanks! Yes you can pay a lot of $$$ for a horse
I've been to the horse auction at the New Holland Sales and they will have the teenagers take the horses through their paces for the buyers. They use a two wheeled cart on rubber tires and they go! They really make the dust fly. In adds in the Lancaster Farming, sellers will use terms like good in traffic, afraid of trucks,bomb proof or good for 30 miles to describe a horse they are selling.
Bomb proof 😅
Yep! I've also heard "Good for the wife" and "When he's on a hill, he puts his head up!"
Ben sounds very knowledgeable and I enjoy his way of speaking and his thorough explanation (doesn’t go on about nonsense). I’d enjoy hearing more from him, maybe more about choosing horses, buggies, or even customs (but you’ve covered customs and most of this really well, it’s just nice hearing from someone whose living it).
Your friend sure sounds level headed and he seems to know what he likes and needs, especially if you are going to spend that much money on something that is so important to their lifestyle. I would love to hear more from Ben, another topic I might like to hear more about is the home canning process from the ladies, what they plant and enjoy canning for their families, sure would love a good recipe for their pickled beets. Thanks for sharing, this was nice to come home from the hospital too, a small heart attack last week and some surgery to insert stents has kept me a bit quiet these past days. Hoping to catch many more of this type of content.
Wow I am sorry to hear about the health troubles - happy you are home though and I hope recovering well. And I am happy to hear you like the conversations with Ben, I'd also love to do some more of these. Maybe he can be persuaded :) Rest up and heal well!
The first time I was in Lancaster County I was near Bird in Hand. This young fellow in his buggy came tearing around the corner out onto the main road, kind of on 2 wheels, like a bat out of…! So I understand when Ben said that his son wants a fast horse. Boys will be boys. Some just wear straw hats and suspenders.
That's right. And there is a video somewhere of a buggy spinning out like that! Saw it earlier this year I think, think it was Ohio
@@AmishAmerica question, the young man who has this fast horse, doesn’t the horse grow with the young man and calm down as they both age?
And they abuse the hell out of their animals. Why does anyone deal with them?
Actually, it's calling "Love Finds you in Sugar Creek"
I know my neighbor's father is looking for a new buggy horse. His got bumped by a car a little over a year ago and is having leg issues when going any distance. He really likes this horse because it's gentle enough for his wife to hitch up. And I really mean they like this horse. Enough to have a rescue set up to get him when they do get another buggy horse. But prices are a bit high right now they said so they need to save up a bit more. So currently they are reliant on taxis.
Sounds like the horse is almost a member of the family. You can imagine how on would get close to an animal you depend on for transport and spend a lot of time on the road with. Nice that they are going to take care of it
I know on occasion the father has borrowed the two neighboring son's buggy horses before. One of those horses is definitely an all go horse that hates going slow and is an occasional fence jumper. The other is quite large and prefers a slower pace and evidently knows its way home if you fall asleep.
I'd be like Ben - impulse buying at an auction in the heat of the moment is exciting, but your "feelings" are in charge more than your rationale. You get in that "I want to win" mode. LOL
Great insight. Yes, you can imagine the chaos a car-fearful horse could cause its driver. Hopefully most would pay more for a calm steady horse as well. But it is humorous that Amish teens are like most teens, except the need for speed is based on horse feed :)
I did enjoy the information, like always. 😊
Glad to hear it Norman!
That was great, thanks.
Glad you thought so! I thought it made more sense to split Ben's talk up into 2 parts
What Ben wants in a horse seems like what I want in a car - Just a vehicle in good condition that will get me in no hurry to a supermarket or discount store.
Love this channel. We’re headed over to an Amish animal auction in a few weeks. They have more than just cows, sheep and horses. They have excellent regular house pets as well.
Have a good visit there Adam and let us know how it goes, maybe you'll be bringing home a new four-legged friend!
I was spending time 2 hours from here in Ohio this weekend. We got to stop in Sugar Creek OH. That is where they filmed "Finding Love in Sugar Creek". It's about the Amish, and their daughter who wasn't Amish falling in love with somebody that needed help. This weekend we saw lots of buggies and signs for buggies. Also, we saw the world's largest coocoo clock in Sugar Creek. We came back today. We went through the old highway for a longer drive home. I forget what it was called. I love Central OH. I think you would like the movie, it might be on Hulu? Or rent it from Amazon.
Always fascinating videos. Thank you so much. You put out great content and answer many questions we may have. 😃
Thank you Susan! 🙏👍👍
Very interesting! I have a couple questions for Ben! Is there a cost difference between male and female horses? (I'd imagine so) Also, what does he look for in a horse that will be in his fields? A different breed? Are those a different cost? Thanks so much!!
These are great videos!
That was very interesting!
Thank you
This was really interesting. I'm guessing the price depends on locality, as well, because I heard an interview on another channel where the Amish man being interviewed said the most expensive, excellent pedigree trotters were going for as much as $30,000. I suppose that was specific to his locality.
I believe so. I can't see too many Swartzentruber Amishmen paying $10K for a horse when the buggy costs $3K. In Lancaster that price would match the cost of a buggy so feels more reasonable. Plus it's overall a wealthy community
Oh man. An Amish neighbor of mine passed along an Amish catalogue. It’s filled with this and that that Amish people trade among themselves. Lot of everything. I was completely shocked to see an ad for a breeding horse for $100k! The picture of the horse was quite impressive, but I thought surely this was way too expensive! But, maybe because it’s a breeder, it’s not? A Lamborghini of horses?
If you look at a publication like the Busy Beaver, it's filled with similar ads - some of them get pretty high up there! Horses is one place Amish business people put their money.
@@AmishAmerica I just looked, it is the Busy Beaver 😂
Wow, I was not aware a horse could cost $10,000. A lot more than I thought it would lol.
Not saying it isn’t worth the price but 10K is a great deal of money to me….
Also how will electric vehicles play a part in Amish life?
They make NO sound when coming up on a buggy not to mention they’re 2 times the weight of a regular car so if they hit you it’s a harder impact.
This is so interesting
Gotta love those good trotter mares. SJs Caviar bred Muscles Yankee those type
Hello from Louisiana
How do the Amish feel about their portrayal in English movies? Such as Witness and Kingpin?
#222👍🤔$10k for a plug to pull a buggy! That's just crazy. We aren't talking race horses!🤷🤑 I would think $2,500 max. My 90 Geo Storm when I bought it used 25 years ago cost $3k. It's an antique today with 92k miles on the clock. Love the stories!!💖
How much does it cost to keep a driving horse for a year? So I can buy a decent car or truck for less, but how much to 'operate'?
Are horses used under saddle also, or strictly with a buggy?
Some do occasionally, but it's not that common. I put a photo in of an Amishman on horseback at the very end. When you do see it, it's more commonly younger people. More here on why: amishamerica.com/do-amish-ride-horseback/
@@AmishAmerica thank you so much!
At what age does one learn to drive a buggy?
They learn in some communities to drive pony carts very young - 6 or 7, maybe younger. That's your "mini-buggy" where they learn some of the skills. They may even go out on the road if it's short distances on non-busy roads. As for actual full-sized buggies, the youngest I've heard of a buggy driver being is 10. Now that's not necessarily going to be the case in all communities and families, and is probably on the young side. amishamerica.com/should-10-year-old-amish-buggy-drivers-get-off-the-road/
Do they become emotionally attached to their horses, or are the horses strictly utilitarian?
If the horse is reliable and not prone to too many ailments, they will keep it for as long as possible and I would say they are a little attached. They give them names and put the horses' needs ahead of their own. Many families have ponies for the children and are often highly cherished.
@@RockinRavenVA That's good to know. If I were Amish, I'd be out in the barn all the time!
Definitely they get attached to some of them. For instance your first horse that you might have from age 16 through the time you get married
@@AmishAmerica A little interesting aside here... Sunday, quite a few buggies went by my house in the late afternoon. I looked at the right time to catch a buggy race! It was great! ( Richmond County, Virginia)
Do they use outside vets or do they have their own vets? If so, how do they train them if they don't go to college?
Outside vets
I have seen Dr. Pol treat horses owned by the Amish . I am sure that they have a lot of experience dealing with horse ailments handed down through many generations. So they most likely know how to treat common issues.
Is there horse price inflation?
What happens when the horses get sick …. Do the Amish use a commercial vet ?
Yes they do
dang, horses are expensive.
Albino what if my horse bite me
Maybe they can explain how they use and abuse their draft horses? I have seen and read a lot about how many of their horses end up in the slaughterhouse after 20 years of good service with improper care.
The same can be said about breeders of thoroughbreds and dairy cows. If they don't earn their keep they get sold and make their way to slaughter. It is the reality that animals have a purpose and when they don't meet that purpose another takes its place. I think we are conditioned to feel differently about horses than other livestock.
@@beckyshell4649 and I think the same about thoroughbreds. Abusive as any racing sport. Dairy farms are great at the family farm level but factory farms are awful. I did part time work on a dairy farm. What my beef is how the Amish treat their animals. Draft horses show up at auction broken down and ill taken care of. What about taking care of God's creatures.
THANK YOU... they dump them after they use them up. new holland is so sad. if people only knew how they actually treat them they wouldnt be so gaa gaa over them. those animals are used up so fast, and then they sell them and most end up at slaughter. they dont care about their horses or animals . they are there striclty to WORK. they have a job. and they over work them . NO horse is meant to do what they MAKE them do. they are a stock when they arent bringing what they are worth they trade them in after they are broken down and close to death.
@@GeekRex yup- i pulled an amsih draft horse from the sale. the thing was filthy, broken in spirit, blind in 1 eye, never ate grain in its life, and was posioned with metal from the used motor oil they use on their animals to fight lice.at least he knew what love was for 8months of his life and never had to work again.they are horrific to all their animals.but they will stand 1 day and be held accountable for how they have treated them all.
@@greatdanerescuemom1 your reply says it all. I've owned a horse and this just breaks my heart. She was a great big Hanoverian of the old style. Queen of every facility she was on. Spoiled her everyday we had her. She gave as much as she got.
As to the motor oil--how is that not animal abuse?
Your channel is getting really popular, Erik! Porn spammers
I delete that stuff when I see it, seems to appear early on after a video goes up. Not seeing anything now so thanks if you reported it already 👍
When the horses are too old to work anymore, do they eat them?
You wouldn't be able to chew the tough meat from an old animal that's worked its muscles, whether it's a horse, a cow, or a chicken. You'd only resort to that if you were starving, and even then it would likely just add a little bit of flavor to a thin broth of mostly hot water. My uncle used to hunt pheasant, and my aunt would ask him please don't shoot an old bird.
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