Amish Horse Sale Record Breaking Horse
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I was there, the horse was never hit with the whip, they crack it to show the horse doesnt get distracted and isnt scared of noises. They did it with all of the horses they sold. He's not abused what so ever this horse is kept better than some PEOPLE.
Thank You Megan ! No, the Amish aren't perfect, but the people who keep berating them on CZcams STILL haven't shown me anything but their bias. I want just one of them to give me names and locations where they PERSONALLY have seen the abuses they claim knowledge of.
Go to Kill Pens and see how great the Amish are when it comes to animals that dont pay their keep. Puppy Mills and Auctions with animals that are neglected and not cared for. The Amish hide behind their religion as goody goodies but they are like every other human being. The religion does not touch their hearts to care properly for the animals God gave us to care for.
only none horse people would think that!
Megan Miller what breed is the horse? Would it be Standardbred I'm not familiar with what the Amish use for buggy horses. I'm from western Canada
Fake auction I was lucky to work with two two time world class Hunter jumper champions both were apalusia not sure if breed is spelled right anyway both horses were insured for a quarter million each do to their history in first place at the world championship for horses Hunter and jumper the horses names were Alma and guy around 16 hands each
So this is where my money goes when I buy that delicious bread these guys sell on the side of the highway.
Home based businesses can be lucrative. I hear these guys are also dealing in drugs.
You’re a fuckin idiot. I heard the same about your mother...
I live smack dab in the middle of Amish country. Our ferrier is Amish actually. And I tell you what I love joining them at our PA auctions
Oh my gosh I love what y all been up to... It kills me too much, beautiful animals! Thank you for sharing and protecting as always!
Horse isn't abused and not hit with whip. Horse was probably purchased to race on the Standardbred circuit. He is a beauty and moves quickly.
He's not a standard bred ....he's a Dutch Harness Horse! !
Linda K Chaney I own two Standardbreds. Trust me. That ain't no Standardbred.
He's a Percheron, used for buggy, farm work. This stallion will bring $ stud fees.
@@bonniecrouse6662 He's definitely not a Percheron, go look up that breed, it's a draft horse and this is a Dutch Harness Horse, not a draft horse.
what a magnificient horse.. black beauty in all its splendor
What a gorgeous standard bred horse!
I am in the tile, natural stone and landscape supply business. A manufactured stone company just got bought up by the Amish. So not they are one of our suppliers and turned this business around to be highly profitable. They buy into regular US businesses, many that are not doing well and are very hard working, smart, frugal and run businesses successfully. Less than 95% of Amish businesses fail. Less than 10% of most US business start-ups make it. So nearly 90% fail. They do not spend money day in and day out, year in and year out on anything other than bare necessities and what is needed. I believe many pool their money for business deals. THey do not sit around doing things that are frivolous or wasting time. Not looking at TV's, computers or cell phones. They are very progressive in business. Regarding the horse if she is young she has at least 25 years divided by the price of service ($12,000 a year) and can be bred for offspring that will bring in major money as well.
A standard-bred trotter that was claimed for $15,000 and 'flipped' for $300,000 for his looks, gait and breeding potential.
He was sored on his legged for the gait which is extreme abuse!
HorseCrazyKelly ,
Yes, if he was in fact sored, there should be a firing squad waiting for the evil doers to show their faces. I have seen some of the same effect from wearing light chains between the fetlock and hoof. I have also heard that wearing very heavy front shoes will cause the high lift with std. weight shoes. Any effort to alter things like this should make one eligible for a rectal relocation by a large shoe.
@@horsecrazykelly3940 No he wasn't special ed..... This is a STANDARDBRED, not a Tennessee Walker 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ These horses NATURALLY move like this. He's not limping while walking, trotting or turning (this is what the vet asks you to do if you suspect lameness fyi...) He's not lifting his hoof off the ground almost immediately, trying to escape the agonizing pain that comes from soreing. Another dead giveaway that this horse is NOT sored: no stacks. He is shod with only a light shoe and maybe one pad, not an entire stack of leather pads nailed to another stack of leather pads with a shoe nailed to that stack. I urge you to look up an x-ray of a stacked hoof vs. a regularly shod foot. You are wrong on this one. I commend you for looking out for the sickening abuse that is soreing, but this horse is definitely not sored.
If that is a full-blooded American Standardbred, and it looks like it may be, then I doubt it was ever sold for a mere 15K.
sweet horse, look at him looking at the people with a kind eye.
they never once mentioned the fact...that a great horse like that could be used to make money....siring other horses, that would be the best way to get your money back....
Yes he did a 3:15
Yes they did, said you could make it back withing 2 years, go figure 1 pug at 150k there.
They don't need to mention it. That is an Amish audience of mostly farmers - they know damn well what to do with the horse.
Amazing looking horse!
What a beautiful horse!!
Yeah it would look better if they took care of it
You should see that same horse when it’s served it’s purpose!
Google the slaughter pipeline!
I was at an auction in northern Alberta Canada where a piece of land (160) acres went for 290000. Obviously these folks see potential in this horse. She’s a beauty.
...it's a stallion
When my greta grandparents came to Alberta they were GIVEN their first quarter for FREE.
@@Lagolop what year would that have been?
@@Localtruthspeaker Late 1800s but as far as I am aware, you may well still be able to get a free 1/4 in Saskatchewan or Alberta. There were (or are) rules in order to keep the land. A certain amount must be cleared in a certain amount of time and a building has to be built. Not sure if the rules apply today or not.
PS we live in the Calgary area. You couldn't get a garage for 290K these days ... LOL.
@@Lagolop no doubt on the garage part. There is still a ton of crown land up here. I spent two winters hauling chips out of the bush. (Wood chips). It would be interesting to try and get a piece of crown land non the less. But I do think there are heavy restrictions and you have to make the land profitable so they can charge property tax from it. The government can’t claim tax on what they own. So what ever it takes to get tax income.
Absolutely beautiful. Worth that money.
that horse is stunning
Gorgeous horse!
Beautiful horse!
I miss you all love you all and take care I pray to see everyone soon
This reminds me it would be cool if an Amish raised horse one some of the biggest harness races in the country.
The old order Amish would never enter such a race. So it would have to be an Amish-bred and trained horse that someone outside the Amish community bought and raced.
Wow, what a beautiful animal
Bloody hell that horse costs more than my house...it is a stunning horse no doubt.....but how can they afford it?
Yeah it’s odd how so many Amish and Mennonites have loads of cash. I was selling a $16K generator for almost a year and the only person who ever replied to my ad was a mennonite who paid in cash for it. He and his family members literally had pockets full of cash. I was amazed.
Their selling lots of potatoes ???
Gorgeous...more money than I can afford
What a beauty.
from what i have seen amish horses are always beautiful
Shipshewana Indiana got great horse auction.
A beautiful horse. And an investment.
That is a beautiful horse..
Love the Amish community. ♡.
The women dont!
This horse lives in a beautiful barn and is treated with the up most respect I'd you think the Amish beat there horses feel free to show you how well there treated
Amish people in my area if the country have no problem with dumping horses that have served them fir years into the hands of kill buyers.
Most of them are not the saints so many people believe.
@@sheilastewart6678 300,000 to kill a horse lmfao. Right.
Beautiful animal
Beautiful horse
Love that horse
Sure sounds like Steve Andrews on the call, but this is in Iowa and he works Ohio and Indiana sales, I have heard him sell many horses and he is one of the best.
Happens to be David Miller Steve Andrews isnt this good
Who gives a damn
I think the cart horses that the Amish use are a standardbred breed. They are not stored like the Tenn. Walkers were. They have a natural gate.
That is not a Tennessee Walker - I have one of those. That is either a Standardbred or a Saddlebred - trotters. The gait is entirely different.
I hope that hait is natural but I have some doubts.
AMISH MEN HAVE THE HORSEs and the barns....equals LEISURE and FUN....AMISH WOMEN...have kids,cooking,laundry, sewing WARDROBEs for everyone .... plus canning...my ol rump would be on a horse just to escape for a breath of fresh ...God Bless The Amish Woman...
Men do raise the children also! I know some Amish personally and often times when I go, the kids may be outside with dad working (or just playing around if they are too young to work) and some inside helping. It really amazed me because sometimes you'd see dad with a very young one (2-3yrs old) and if that little one wants to get on the cart with dad, dad lifts him ups and takes him! There's no "Go to your mom" (Unless dad is doing something dangerous)
Yes saddle needs have that gait naturally.
What's his pedigree? - i worked for Lana Lobell Farms NJ and we had yearlings go for that much especially Trotters - we stood Speedy Crown, Astro Hill on the NY farm and Speedy Somolli , Mystic Park and Joie DE Vie on the N J farm - at the NJ farm we had $ 80,000,000 worth of Stallions standing there - we also had No Nukes , Oil Burner , Slapstick and Fortune Teller at the NJ farm - all of whom I handled
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Did they bid at 300,000?
Meanwhile at Keeneland: Yearling with unknown pedigree sells for give-away price of $400,000.
At least....
A great horse
BEAUTIFUL...DONT NEED EXPLAINING....
What kind of horse is this? He is beautiful
Kinda silly that horse is worth more then some houses
it's funny that no money was ever changed when the horse went thru the ring
Dang the Amish have a lot more money than most!
You dont even know who bought the horse
in my 28 year experience of living near the Amish my opinion of their quaintness changed to disgust. They have puppy mills and treat their animals horribly.
Yep... they are disgusting
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Bastards!
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. You show up on all these sites..and flaunt your ignorance.
u don't know what the fuck your talking about I'm around Amish all the time and they treat all their animals good
My neighbor had his australian shepherd stolen by amish that ran a puppy mill. He rode around looking for his dog and heard it barking when he drove by their place. They wouldnt let him go near their kennels or see the dog he heard barking so he walked across the amish property and got the dog out of a pen and took it back home.
It's time to run the numbers folks. How much does Newtown Choclatier stand at stud for? How many mares will he average breeding in a average year and how many years will NC stand at stud for?
In other words is an investment like this worth my time and money?
Stands for $1500-$2000 and has easily bred 200 mares
Amish people are Good people from morrocco 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Vintage John Marg. Sounds exactly like it.😅😅😅
Pure beauty!..
Why is it stepping so high? I don't really know anything about horses but I love watching them and the way its walking seems really off.
jasminf0x / It is called soring. There are videos on you tube. Wikipedia articles that do a better job of explaining it then I can. Suffice to say that it is cruel.
Thank you for the information. Just 5 minutes of browsing made me sick. I can't believe people are so heartless to cause such beautiful creatures so much pain.
fortitude 1965 You have absolutely ZERO proof that any type of soring was done to this horse! You could have a lawsuit slapped on you really quick. I personally can't stand how SOME Amish treat dogs like nothing more breeding stock, but I don't go around saying every Amish person is a puppymiller either.
HEMI Momma u show me a horse that walks like that without any soaring then.
HEMI Momma That horse is clearly abnormally shod, and if you stop the video when he stands it is clear it is sored. Perhaps, it was sold to the Amish that way. Perhaps, it was sored from an outside trainer and sold to Amish?
Me just wondering how u understand the moderator 😅😅😅
What’s the point of him with the whip?
the way amish people run is funny.
Some people are saying this horse is treated better than people, and that might be true for THIS horse, or the 'higher class' horses, but when it comes to the recycled track Saddlebreds they use for their buggies to ride around in, I've seen some very cruel instances. I live in Pennsylvania and visit Lancaster often. The horses are skinny, they're overworked, and they do not enjoy life. It's not, in my views, cruel to ride or be drawn by horses, but, the Amish have the tendencies to not provide proper care. I'm not necessarily an advocate over bitless bridles, but, I find it best. Especially when compared to these horses having to chomp down on it for hours at a time. These people, despite being religious, are out to make money and concern themselves with self benefit. The horses care becomes less important when it can prosper their own lives.
They are slime.
There are a number of levels in the Amish religion. One thing that they are very cheap on is vaccinations for their animals. They come up with home remedies that are rather barbaric. I guess it goes back to the saying about, That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.
While I am preaching to a congregation of people such as myself who like and maybe love horses, let’s talk about other somewhat cruel things that we, as “English”, do to our horses. My father raised and later also raced standardbred horses. The Jockey Club, and the USTA should be required to abolish the use of whips on horses. If the horse is not a money maker, get a better horse, or play more golf. Jumping horses is an activity that I personally find to be borderline criminal. Surgery for chipped coffin bones causes unnecessary pain, as does a bowed tendon or a founder due to the impact on the front feet. I have had my back broken twice due to the acts of others, and have endured years of unnecessary pain.Tennessee Walking horse soreing has been outlawed, but the judges reward those who still practice this black art, with trophies and ribbons for high stepping horses, knowing full well that a horse has been sored. As a person whose first riding horses were Dick and Dolly, Grampa’s gray percheron team, riding back and forth across the fields, I have a special dislike for people who dock horses tails. What the hell are they supposed to do during fly time? Learn to tie a mud knot to show off the hindquarters of a nice team. All breed associations should want to judge horses as they were originally bred to look and behave. As a kid I was taught that you make a horse do things, thus “breaking”. I have learned in caring for Dad’s remaining Standardbreds, that there is a lot more pleasure and satisfaction in creating a horse that trusts what you want him to do. A hell,of a lot safer as well. Learn to communicate on their level.
@@robertqueberg4612 Most horse breeds were "originally bred" to work 6+ hours (some occupations over 10) a day, six days a week. Now we've got goody-two-shoes whining about riding tandem on horses that were bred to carry over 600 lbs of armor.
Needs to be looked at by animal rights groups.
Auction barn people make 20% of sale. Eaglegards ya saps...
how the hell do they have that much money to spend on a horse
Mickey O'Neil I have noticed they have huge houses and lots of land with pretty white fencing. They can’t be poor. Only rich people have this kind of money to spend on horses. They must know about money, for people who keep separate from the world. You can almost compare with some Jewish sects.
Ther Amish are not the buyers.
Mickey O'Neil Just like most people buying nice cars.
Mickey O'Neil huh? They arent dumb. They work and sre good business people
Christian Cullip she didn't say anything anti anything you butthurt nut
Was that Steve Andrews on the call or was it a Chupp? Thanks for sharing this video. A beautiful animal that has his whole life ahead of him plus although the amount paid may sound high, I am sure there will be a good return on the investment made. To those who feel the horse was being abused not once did I see the whip hit the horse and if it did, the initial sting is not permanent. This is part of the selling process.
autioneer is David Miller
Where can I see the referenced video?
I keep hearing his shoes clicking, that might mean he was not moving so smoothly as they think.
That is the whip, not his shoes.
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He is a trotter - you are supposed to be able to hear him. Plus, if he is being sold by an Amish person, he is used regularly on gravel and asphalt, so he is well-shod. Those are noisy. I really don't hear much here though.
Still photo shows this 15k to 300k Standardbred was sored before this auction. www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/3-24-17/claimer-sells-300000.html
Sored?
Did i hear $300k for a horse?
Cameras are usually not allowed around the Amish. Not sure how they managed to pull this off.
Lol they don’t want people knowing how much money they have so no cameras.
You don’t have to be Amish to buy a horse at an Amish auction.
I didn't know amish knew about money lol
Everyone is talking about the dumb whip - find me a barn without a whip. What you should be all concerned about is how they get that gait - that does not come natural to any horse. That is usually trained with soring.
This is a natural movement for this breed of horse no soring or extreme methods needed. I think you may be thinking more along the lines of the TWH.
Whips are not used to touch and guide in training. They are not used on the horse at least not by a good trainer. Horses naturally do not care for them
GoodRedBlackRatio it's torture to horses 🐴
I don't think the Amish are into that sort of thing - and there are horses that have naturally high action. I used to work for an Arabian breeder and those horses had extremely high action - higher than this - and I can guarantee you there was no soring involved.
"that does not come natural to any horse." lol okay, I'm assuming that is a Standardbred, this gait comes naturally to the breed, no training required and you certainly can't get them to do this by soring them, they would be lame ...
Welllll.... not really my idea of a $300,000 animal..... but hey, whatever floats your boat if you got the money.... Congrats to the previous owner/breeder.
Just curious, what would the Amish do with/need a $300K horse?
How do you know an Amish person bought him
You look at the crowd?
@@ap8409 You see the gal with the smartphone? Tell me she was Amish?
How many of you comment makers have Any first hand knowledge of the Amish. That's like saying all Christians are Oral Roberts, Joel Osteen or Jimmy Swaggart. Get knowledge or keep your thoughts and lies to yourselves. Some are great people some are less so. Just like the rest of the world. Do you not stay at hotels owned by people from Pakistan or shop at gas and go convenience stores owned by peoples from India. Let's judge everybody. Did your daddy buy you a new car because you lived for 16 years being your great achievement?
@@keithmartin7831 nope if I see them behind the counter in motel or c store walk out and go elsewhere.
$300,000 is chump change for a good horse. That horse is fair-to-middling.
So a girl with a smart phone is sitting next someone who filmed an Armish auction where the auctioneer was using a mic and amp. Dont the Armish shun technology?
they don't use it themselves usually but they do not ban outsiders from using it, nor do they mind hiring people that are not Amish. In other words, they are 'tolerant' of others. something libs could learn
The sale is open to non Amish people. That's how they make money....
I know, I'm glad I'm a conservative so I'm tolerant of Muslims, gays, sikhs, asians, native americans, homeless people, food stamp users, parolees, black people, mexican americans, immigrants, only conservatives are truly tolerant of all groups of people. Libtards can really learn from us.
Disco Stu Amish are a scam. They supposedly can't own technology, but they can use it. Ever see a small shack at the beginning of their driveways? It's a phone. They pay Usually, Mennonites to own them but the phone is for the Amish. They drive cars and trucks for work. Someone else owns it. They own bicycles, painted black. Drive and own cars, painted black.( your new order Amish) They also don't pay taxes,sales or property nor income. It's all tax free. They don't pay to register buggies but use our road system. The new order even sends them to public schools. I have lived among these scammers for 54 years! But it is true, they have very nice houses,always have money. They heat their homes and use lights on either propane or natural gas. The neighbor uses a propane refrigerator like in an
Rv..They drink, they smoke. The kids run around. Yeah, they got the deal SCAMMERS.I was offered $200,000 for my 10 acres I don't farm from the neighbor. Now where does a dirt poor Amish farmer come up with that cash?
@@tt-mt7rn as long as it profits them anything goes
That seems like a lot of money for a horse with downhill conformation.
I was trying so hard to understand the guy talking by the mic.. then I farted and I lost him
Amish Ferrari !
I expected German instead of English at this auction.
It's in Iowa.
Will he end up at Moores Auction when he is no longer useful?
Why would you even say that? He will end his days grazing out in the field as a family pet, like any other horse on a farm.
TH.NISE.COLKIT.
MONY.
yes beautiful but how are they going to get their money back as it isn't a racehorse with bloodlines etc
Lol he's a registered Standardbred who did race, he was a claimer, which is the lowest rung of the ladder in official races, I don't think he's worth the money but meh I guess, the auctioneer says you can get your money back by studding him out, you would have to charge a lot and breed him to a lot of mares to make back $300K though.
A stallion?
Amish got $300k to drop? Besides spiritual riches, are they low key millionaires?
How can a horse turn 150 k@ year??
Stud fees! The top thoroughbred stud in the country makes 35 MILLION dollars a year in stud fees
@@starspangledsquirrelM crap, now I’m too old..
How do the amish have so much money?
They don't , It was the amish selling that horse not buying it
It's from having horses wear heavy shoes when they're starting their training then they lift their legs higher when they go to light shoes educate yourself before making stupid comments
Dang maybe should marry in amish
Where do Amish get that kind of money??
So much for the Amish being wholesome people...
Not one person gets that money, it goes into a community fund that supports the whole community
@@chaffkell You SURE about that? Why do the Amish need a 300 thousand dollar horse for the community?? No I dont think it does go to any "community""
@@queenmab1999 why do you care?
@@queenmab1999 the amish don't have private bank accounts all monetary money goes into a community account, you should watch the documentary on them before you jump to conclusions, listen to the song "One Tin Soldier" and you'll understand what I mean, they are a very humble and simple people
Actually I checked they do have personal bank accounts but their average income is 8-10 thousand a year the rest goes into a community account, they pay cash for everything including the purchase of a farm and home. I recently watched a story about an armish farmer whose barn had burnt to the ground and the whole amish community showed up at his place that next week with all the lumber and materials they needed to build a brand new barn and with the help of the rest of the community they built a $100000 barn in 3 days and and the farm owner did not have to pay for any of it
What is the auctioneers name
John Marg
Iv gone Amish farm with friend of and she buy lamds botyled babies they every nice people friendly
That's not alot of money it was horses sold for 10m 95m
and if it dies suddenly foooorget that way too much money
What a huge loss. Amish don't have insurance...
More money for the horse, more quality dung it gives.
Whips aren't anything but a tool, the person behind the whip CAN BE a problem. BEAUTIFUL HORSE!!
What a great comment!
Too much whip flourishing to suit me.
Not familiar with Dutch harness horses but it is a handsome horse.
The horse was showing fine, the whip was not necessary.
Yall surprised about 300.000$ for a horse but famous horses get sold for over 5 million🙇♀️💀💀💀💀
I saw a no name horse that had never even raced sell for $16M then he lost all three of his races, was retired to stud, didn't produce anything of note and died prematurely from his bad feet
Tracing horses
$300,000 and thry done take care of thier animals properly. Thats insane. They just shoot them when they see no more use for them.
They take VERY good care of Breeding stock and it may not have been an Amish person that bought it. You don’t have to be Amish to buy a horse at an Amish auction.
$300,000 horse ! And these are the plain/simple people.🧐 Look at the huge houses they live in and all the land they have. What’s up?
They're blessed by God and work hard.
Thought the amish couldn't use electricity
They can use generators and batteries. They're not as dumb as the rest of us. That's why they're rich. They are industrious.
They use whatever thay can as long as it is beneficial to them.
Somebody got some deep pockets.But some of those folks are tighter than bark on a tree.
Hell I don't have three dollars to buy some nachos. Much less 300k for a horse that with my luck will get hit by a car on the way home.
What a shambles