Rio Meets: Arsene Wenger & Jill Ellis - The Future Of Football - LIVE
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- čas přidán 8. 11. 2021
- Rio is joined by legends of the game in Arsene Wenger and Jill Ellis to discuss the proposals of the International Nations football calendar, and a host of other proposals. Have your say in the future of the game!
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How does Jill have an American, British and Australian accent all at the same time 🤣Loved this Rio / FIVE team, Arsene and Jill were great. Never thought I would like Arsene having grown up during the invincible era, but he's the right person for his role.
Bostonian accent 🤣
American Irish
Nah not Aussie,but she was born in England.
Sounds like all three though..your right my man!
I was so perplexed 😂😂😂
Supported United since 1959 aged 6yrs been through thick and thin. But respect Arsene what he achieved with Arsenal on the budget he had was awesome.
Just missed out on seeing Duncan Edwards, Roger Byrne, Tommy Taylor etc then🥲
@@martinh1309 Yes my grandad and late dad were both United fans, we had many disagreements over the years, who was better between Duncan and George. They both said Duncan was, but I always said George lol, I often think about what they would make of today's business with the Glazers ect.👍
Arsene has a pure heart and is very intelligent. This proposal is necessary to develop football across the world, there is so much untapped potential in the world
Arsene Wenger is a true icon of the game! When he speaks it means something.
Arsène saying " I will not be here anymore in 2040" made me smile a little sadly. All men truly are as grass. Thank You Arsène
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The last 3 mins , the gems that Wenger dropped. Special guy. Forever our father.
The biggest revolutionary of the modern game. Father Arsene, when you speak we listen.
Fairplay wenger is just a fountain of knowledge i could listen to him talk football and never get bored
In my opinion we should have no international games during the League season, players go on international duty in September, October, November and March for 2 weeks at a time. That adds up to 2 months, if we played the League season all the way through we could finish a month or two earlier. Rather than may/june , the season would finsh in April and all world cup qualifiers could be fitted into the month of may. There for players would gon on holiday in June and start the new league season in August.
I agree. Many players come back injured and the breaks ruin clubs momentum during a season.
I completely agree, why not have a tournament every summer one tournament being the qualfiers for the world cup and euros and then the year after the Euros and World cup. Make qualifiers more geographical so we play the home nations more as well to create a bit of interest.
Sounds the most logical way to schedule the calender. Only issue is if players are injured during the international period they miss all international games qualifiers and tournaments which would be devastating for them personally. But it should be tailored more towards club leagues and football ad they pay all wages etc even during injuries
@@msingh999 Didn't really think about the injury aspect tbh, but we've also seen players miss world cups/euros with injuries so it would be similar I guess
You start international qualifacation in august and september and club season starts in october Ive been saying this to people i wish fifa had a person like you incharge a person with a brain
This is big Rio. First person to host this discussion. You did really well and the discussion brought out the details we as fans wanted to hear.
What a gentleman he is, Mr Arsene Wenger, I, as a long long time Man United staunch fan, always liked him and respected him, I would enjoy to bit his team Arsenal, but respected him personally, always was a gentleman, eloquent and respectful, even when used to go feast to feast with Sir Alex, later on in life Fergie be friended with him
Arsene, ahead of the game..legend
Arsène is truly a revolutionary figure. He is special
I found myself agreeing with everything Arsene said.
Haha The Arsene effect
Arsene - The greatest philosopher in football history
I love how Arsene wenger cares about other countries especially Africa, I got mad respect for you sir I am not arsenal fan since you left anymore
29:57 hey that’s me.
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Welldone!
Hey you're famous
Respect to Joel and Ste for stepping aside. This one was definitely for Rio.
You think they said themselves ''naa im good'' ?
They had no say bro...
Lol have you heard yourself
Serious conversation deserves a serious, well respected footballer. Not two fans with no experience at a high level, no matter how good they are on a podcast. I'm not sure they ever had a choice tbh 😂
I mean, obviously, I was just being polite. Otherwise, i would have said, and Wenger should have probably done the same. No, female Joel, this one is not for you.
I believe Ste was directing the stream.
Wish Rio had challenged them more on some of their answers in order for them to develop their arguments more
100 % bro. They answered every question without actually answering the questions. It was like watching 2 politicians.
@@mg3554 They the game’s governing body’s reps, at the end of the day.
@@SheffKhalid Yep, so were Blatter and one of the last USA fifa representatives Jack Warner. They were a trustworthy pair
They did, they're answering as people with ideas. They aren't making these final decisions. The most important words AW mentioned is "With in Football People". He separated us fans from this subject because we don't know what happens on football unless you're in it.
Arsene made so many good points, all the stake holders should discuss with an open mind
"The one and only Jill Ellis, and...Mr. Arsene Wenger" Oh come on Rio
To Rio and the team at five. You're doing a killer job. 42 yr old arsenal fan from Australia. This sit down was brilliant and it was great to get more information on the proposal. In regard to the rest of your content it's getting stronger and stronger. I do like the debates with focus on facts. Keep it up I'm really enjoying it.
Amazing job Rio and the FIVE team !! U guys are one of the best football content here on youtube !! Great interview, loved the discussion and listening to how this proposal can improve football not just in the developed countries but also in the developing ones !! This def answered a lot of the questions i had in my mind about this WC every 2yrs ~ nice one 👍
I really enjoyed this! Great conversation to have in regards to something that will be so pivotal in not only affecting europe’s top leagues, but how the rest of the world will prosper from this shift!
Like Arsene said at the start, we won’t be able to make everyone happy, but at least we can try to always improve!
I love not only the fun and entertaining side of the channel, but also the capability Rio has to foster these serious conversations that will have a massive effect on the future generations!
Great work 💪
Great to see my dad Arsene doing dad things
Amazing chat 👏🏾
Amazing interview and video. Thanks for putting this out there 🔥
Top Interview. Finally some answers surrounding this. I'm feeling their vision tbh.
Fully expected Ste to heckle from the audience
Jill went to my undergrad school! Let’s go TRIBE 💚🥇
a Man United fan from Kenya. I agree with Wenger and Jill's sentiments on world football. Keep pushing the conversation, we really need to evolve football to modern times.
This so necessary. Great insight
Almost during the end of the show, I teared up a bit. Because how Wenger spoke in this show was inspiring. PS I'm an arsenal fan.
If I am a player, I would happily take that 2 month break rather than play in high stress WC every 2 years, thank you very much. Also the whole mystique of the WC, it's sense of achievement, is tied to the fact that it is held every 4 years. It will be just another tournament if it is held every two years. What's next, a WC every year like the Super Bowl?
Also, thank you Rio and the entire FIVE team for such amazing content. Big up Rio lad.
Mate, you are kicking this pundit/youtube lark with both feet. Well done! What a fantastic interview and insight into how the game is being looked after and seeing football people coming up with sensible football solutions for the greater good of the game. Top job!
I like the argument of more countries get to host the tournament and thus more exposure, but FIFA is corrupt, so the countries with more money will generally get to host it, so it won't make sense in that regard.
Flip side is that hosting the world cup is a massive expensive in itself so poor countries wouldn't be able to host it anyways
@@ghostsniiper1 exactly
@@ghostsniiper1 apart from extremely poor regions there are may other nations as well who got the money to host the wc but never got chance.
More countries means the non traditional nations will get to host kinda solves rich nations only getting it
Love this!
Thanks FIVE for putting his on, great discussion.
A World Cup is special because it’s only every 4 years. Hosting it every 2 years just makes it another tournament.
It makes it like the Euros, i dont feel the same for the euros.
If players get to play in 7 or 8 world cups in their career it jus makes it less special and diminishes past world cup winners and performers
Completely agree!
Technically the WC is another tournament.
@@ajmalcosman46 euros is more competitive
Have to say, whoever picked the questions did a great job!! 👏
Brilliant episode! No nonsense 👏
Big ups to Jill. Great work by Rio and his team. Mr. Wenger showed me why he has been such a likeable man. Great man!
I think having the World Cup 2 years is good for womens football it gives more exposure to womens football. However I don’t think it works for men because of the club level games in a year that can be a lot to handle for players and you also consider qualifiers as well. More injuries will happen
Great sit down and video. Also, I like that Rio wore a jacket that matched his hair. 10/10
Rio's one of the best in the interview game right now. The kid's on fire
hardly a kid
@@EssLoco He's got a heart like a lion
@@geoffreylekat8038 is he a kid or a lion? Make you mind up
@@EssLoco You decide Reggie. I've always respected your opinion 🙌
@@geoffreylekat8038 I respected yours much more. Therefore, you’re right. He is a kid.
This was fantastic, Wenger is very convincing. Bring on the changes
It seems like all the responses to the question: Why the world cup every 2 years??
All answers revolve around Developing womens sport and developing countries (Aka Non top 5 leagues).
But the counter argument is still they dont play as many games as current elite level marketed footballers.. aka Top 5 league mens football. They will be the horse that pulls the cart and there is already such an active calendar for them.
Didn't Arsene say part of the reason for every 2 years is to reduce the mid season breaks? So benefit for men's football would be slightly less interruptions mid season, and guaranteed 25 day break after tournaments, benefit to women's game is increased exposure which should then force growth at club level.
Real question is how can they guarantee all this so called money going to "help develop" football isnt going to corrupt FAs again just like the ones that were even trying to extort Mbappes father when he went to the Cameroon FA to register Kylian his son and they were asking money from him but his family dont come from wealthy backgrounds so he went to the French FA and mind you Kylian Mbappe was already an upcoming star at 15 and his family were treated like that
Brilliant legend #Rio
Nobody knows football like Arsene Wenger!
Although I agree women's football is miles away quality wise from men's, the more viewership they get they will feel to improve more. because they are answerable in terms of quality. So once they get more attention and exposure, the more they will improve
Brilliant 👏👏
Tbf they actually explained the points much better here than the tidbits that have been floating around social media. I’m still sorta against the idea of more regular world cups but not as much as before now. The point Wenger made of “everyone watched the Euros and Nations league this year and enjoyed it and everyone is excited to watch the World Cup next year” opened my eyes to the fact that as fans we do want more quality games and when they come we will watch them.
great job Rio
Loved that Rio nice one 👍👊
I feel like this whole proposal would benefit the women’s game more than men’s, but it’s always good to have people trying to improve the game
Hi I am from India
I know you think it will be a stress for players but think about other country who only participate Qualifier and then go back to regular job because then don’t have La Liga, Or English Premier League
I respect your view just think globally
@@RealLifeDuet yeah I get that, maybe I was being a little narrow minded posting that. I completely agree to be honest I would hope it would give a chance for other places around the world to develop there leagues, would be nice to have some superstar talents from all around the world.
Really interesting discussion with 2 really knowledgable legends of the game. For me it raised 2 questions. The first is that their talk was about having the World Cup every 2 years but what happens to the European Championships and the Nations League tournaments. If they had them every 2 years will this create too many games and because it is Europe based no monies would filter to the developing countries and there are some of them in Europe like San Marino, Luxembourg and the likes of Albania. The second question is about the financial benefits to the developing countries when most of the money will go to the likes of France, Germany and Italy because they are likely to go further in the competitions. To me it looks like the rich are going to get richer and the smaller countries that have not much to start with will be feeding on scraps. This surely will lead to losing a lot of players from the game because they simply have no incentive to carry on and be noticed by bigger and better league clubs.
So much love for Jill Ellis.
very interesting show / big up Rio
A very insightful content.
Small football countries can play a World Cup/Euro qualifiers each year and they still won't qualify for a tournament. The big football nations are miles ahead and closing the gap isn't as easy as in club football where you have investors or you can simply buy players. In my opinion it won't make any difference for the countries itself, maybe just for the individual player who has a better chance to be noticed by more scouts.
That why i think it is better to create a 2nd world cup like competition for those countries only. This will give fifa revenue and also increase quality of those countries.
Revive considerations cup and do it with the best 32 teams that had not qualified from the last world cup
Amazing guys 🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
I feel like I've come away with more questions than answers
"The one and only.........Jill Ellis and Mr Arsene Wenger". What a funny introduction by Rio as I'm sure that Arsene's eyes lit up for a second at the idea of being called "the one and only". Arsene then goes on to pass the first question on to Jill Ellis.
Rio, what kind of way is that to introduce a legend like AW 🙈
Wenger ,rio,Jill great insights
The world cup is that popular because there’s a long build up if it’s every two years people could get over it. It’s the novelty.
It would also diminish the Euro's which are also a big tournament and players would be run ragged having to play so many qualifiers for one or the other virtually every year. Then add the African and South American tournaments and the travel and time away from their clubs. It's just insane. Fatigue will become an issue which will then effect performances, something will have to give.
Very good chat.
This is just them marketing their ideas.
No challenge to their assumptions at all.
Why not bring on a critic of their suggestions?
That is exactly what this was supposed to be.A platform for them to give their proposal which people can digest and hopefully critique in good time!
Good job, Rio.
Arsene and Jill make great points.
What's clear from Jill is that the men's and women's game have completely different needs. They need to start making seperate decisions. Give the women the world cup every year and keep the mens to every 4 years. Do all you want to expand the womens game but don't force negative changes on the men's game for the good of your game.
My father for real saw him on the weekends all my life 🤣
Great chat . Only question I have with having the WC every 2 years what happens to the Euro completion that is held every 4 years as well.
Great content like usual, but I would have loved to know what's happening to the current tournaments like the Euros and Copa America, both prestigious tournaments in their own right
The plan is to have each year a major tournament.
Year 1: World Cup
Year 2: Euro/Copa America
and so on
For top football countries I can see it being a hindrance having WC every 2 years. For my country (NZ), it would help develop us (assuming we get in lol).
Would love to know your opinion on the biennial world Cup Rio. Will you do a discussion with Ste and Joel after hearing the information from Arsene and Jill?
Yes? Yes Yes? Yes
Keep football as it is
No. Change is important to continue to grow.
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Football is already the most watched sport on earth. The problem in football is people keep trying to change it and adding more games/tournaments or VAR etc
Jill was born in Portsmouth, but all her years in America has changed her accent. It’s pretty cool lol
No way in hell will I support a WC every 2 years. The problem is too many games on club level. That's where the "greed" lies
The game must grow in Africa and Asia ...that would cut the big European leagues to size.
The idea of changing the calendar to play international games at once and club games without breaks makes sense. I think everyone would be okay with that. My issue is increasing the number of tournaments. It works for the women's football and should definitely be implemented there but in men's football it's not necessary. 3 tournaments (Euro, World Cup, Nations League) in a space of 4 years is okay
Maybe I missed this but aren't these changes for the very elite. What would happen during those longer international breaks to players who don't go on international duty and/or play in the lower leagues? Would the lower leagues continue?
I don't know if I missed it but what would happen to the Euros? I don't see how you can have WC each 2 years and still have the individual continental competitions?
This is why the UEFA is against this concept. FIFA is basically doing this to cut into the UEFA profits as the UEFA earns around double of what the FIFA earns over 4 years (due to Champions League)
The Euroa would be the year beetwen World Cups. So every 2 years as well.
Absolutely nobody
Jill: "if you look at the women's game"😂
love the chat.. love the insights. However, for the world cup being every 2 years for Women's makes sense in terms of the points covered but for men's its just pointless other than just squeezing more money out of the game.
Imagine your club once upon a time Mr genius arsene wenger was the manager of your team and Arteta is the manager
I was thinking the same thing regarding her accent lol
A World Cup every two years massively helps the women's game. No football fan ever said they wanted World Cup every 2 years in men's football...
Great interview. Seems like it will be more beneficial for women’s football rather than men’s. No thanks!
Womens football has to remember that it wouldn't exist without the financial help it gets from the mens game. Man Utd didn't even have a womens team until a couple of years ago. It still has a long way to go, but cannot expect parity. It just doesn't have the same level of exposure or interest, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for it to grow even further, there are plenty of markets for it to expand into.
Good show big up Rio for bring the conversation to the ordinary fans
Let's call this two what they are, lobbyist! World cup every two years is all about money. People will watch no doubt, but four years makes it really special.
It’s special because of the occasion and quality not because of every 4 years.
@@olaman I guess you never took an economics class before. The scarcer a commodity is the more valuable it becomes. There is a reason why more people watch a world cup tournament than watch a Champions League season even though clubs generally have more fans than national teams.
@@olaman When we talk quality, the world cup is behind club football!
@@biggy3rd that’s not the same thing? Are you comparing a club with an entire country. Of course there are billions of eyes on the world club. It’s the entire worlds. That’s a terrible argument. The reason the world club is special is because of national pride. All different cultures and countries come together to battle it out. Every 2 years will never take away from that.
@@biggy3rd playing the champions league every 4 years won’t suddenly increase the value. That economy logic doesn’t work as it relates to tournaments.
Bro wish this was 2 hours
Wengeeeeeeeer!
A WC every two years increases the quality of club football. Players will put more in their game at all times in an attempt to be picked for the WC national squad. One might say that's already the case with players fighting to be picked for the continental tournaments, but the WC is different gravy.
18:04 what is Rio on about 😅 When Wenger went to Arsenal, those players he named weren't winners yet