Ranking EVERY Paradox Form in Competitive Pokemon.
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- Gen 9 Competitive Singles is a Playground for the Paradox Pokemon, familiar faces from the Ancient Past and the Distant Future, who have come to Wreak Havoc.
From Great Tusk to Iron Jugulis, you'd better watch out for these fellas. Boy do they do stuff. Some stink though. But some are very good. What!!
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The best thing about brute bonnet is that the speed is specifically designed to be so slow that you can never push its speed stat over its attack stat and pull off fast protosynthesys spores
lol, you're right
I think the real paradox forms were the friends we made along the way.
😅
tbh that could actually be the story in the dlcs
Yeah bc whoever plays pokemon doesnt have friends, so having friends is a paradox
Ah yes my best friend [IRON FOOL]
Koraidon and Miraidon
spore-sucker punch-close combat-bullet seed with loaded dice brute bonnet is absolutely underrated in UU. But he has competition with Iron Hands...
spore sucker, punch close, combat bullet
Rage powder spore sucker punch and bullet seed is the real brute in doubles.
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This is simply the best ranking video of all time.
Simply!
game freak knew what they were doing announcing great tusk first. they knew it had the best design and then they gave it amazing stats even the vgc guys underrated it
Eh it’s not that good in VGC, earthquake hits ur teammates and bulky mons in general are pretty bad in VGC
@@2im36 It's been popping off in VGC recently. You have to remember that Tusk also has a base 131 Attack
@@2im36 I have seen a lot of people using great tusk in the recent official Pokemon tournament
@@2im36 bulky mons are typically worse in VGC, yes. However, Great Tusk has had a huge surge in popularity. It forms a great offensive core with Talonflame and Flutter Mane, and it has an advantage over Garchomp since it gets both earthquake and headlong rush, so it isn't forced to run stomping tantrum if you don't want to hit your team members.
@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 flutter mane and bundled lose to scizor lol. also tusk scarfed is faster and one shots both
Slither Wing REALLY should’ve been a bug/dragon.
if only. guy looks so sick
I think it was cause all 3 having a 4x weakness.
I like the the bug is ready to trow hands. Also I don’t see the dragon part of it
It would be really cool if they gave all these Pokémon hidden abilities soon
they never will, imagine them as ultra beasts and treasure of ruins as island guardians
Rule 1 of using Irom Thorns : play Tyranitar instead
I've actually been loving Roaring moon recently, using the set you mentioned of dance, acro, crunch and quake. I initially started using it instead of Dragonite and i've been loving it. The acro with booster energy makes it so strong, especially after one or two dances it becomes a great sweeper. Great vid Jim!
Its a tremendous Pokemon.
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Iron Jugulis got hydro pump and hurricane. Kinda cool for rain. Also assault vest is cool on it or it gets roost pretty sure. I like it.
6:03 "it has a unique type combo"
Meanwhile Gardevoir, Hatterene, Galarian Rapidash, Mr. Mime and Tapu Lele: are we jokes to you?
If you can only count them on the fingers on one hand, that means there isn't that many
Thankyou Jim for this ranking of every single paradox Pokemon in the game e
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Iron Hands will return when a good Physical Electric move decides to exist, mark my words.
Belly Drum + Thunder Punch
So basically never?
@@AacroX if it survives the belly drum to get a hit of
@@nnightkingj Sitrus Berry guarantees that, especially with its massive HP
I seriously will never understand of why they just:
- Not give each paradox form a diferent ability
- Each Paradox pokemon have an actual Pokemon name, say what you want but these names feel like place holder names, specially the future ones, even the future paradox shinys are the same
Like pokemon like Iron thorns feel like they should have a diferent ability, Iron thorns would make sense having Eletric surge or Brute bonnet having regenerator. Heck anything but the same copy paste ability (Like why would you use Sandy shocks in the sun when it has a great Special attack to use in rain and spam thunder, while Iron Jugulis gets the quark drive ability but in order to get the power boost on eletric attacks the pokemon has to be grounded BUT IRON JUGULIS IS A FLYING TYPE SO IT DOESNT EVEN GET A BOOST ANYWAY)
It feels like Gamefreak made these pokemon VERY last minute, they put on some stats and forgot to like give them abilities and their names because the game would be shipped like tomorrow. Not to say some Paradox pokemon are bad per say... But feel like Gamefreak could have done a better job imo.
wdym the names are sick af, Iron Treads sounds sick
@@thawsomepancakes3615 Fr. Roaring Moon, too, sounds badass as heck.
@@senny- Yeah, only one that sounds a BIT weird IMO is iron jugulis(its not even a word) everything else either sounds cool or funny in a charming way
@@thawsomepancakes3615
Iron Jugulis -> Hydreitron
Great tusk -> Donphang
Iron moth -> Volcatronica
Iron threads -> Threadphan
Brute bonnet -> Ungabungus
Sandy shocks -> Magneshock
Iron Valiant -> Gardellade
Iron Bundle -> Deliwash
Just naming a few that could be a better name, I don care if its stupid
Its already 10 times better then just
"For future pokemon just had Iron and something relates to it" wow peak pokemon game design right here
@@senny- With that logic for now on every pokemon shall be name
Object + Adjective
Is this really what are they capable off
Roaring moon sounds like a boss name, not a Name for paradox salamance
I like the design of paradox salamence, but we are stuck with these names that were made by a 12 year old
I really hope the DLC adds Hidden Abilities for these guys. Electric Surge for Iron Thorns would be cool. Fun Fact, Iron Valiant gets Skill Swap but literally cannot use it because of how Quark Drive works.
Imagine Adaptability Iron Valiant, I know it probably won't get it but it'd be terrifying
Kind of a crime that iron hands don't have the ability iron fists
Thank u for respecting brute bonnet enough to not give it last.
The best way that all Paradox Forms can be viable in some way is for GameFreak to give all of them a unique (Revelant!) Hidden Ability.
Most of them are already viable, protosynthesis is cracked
@thawsomepancakes3615 this is more so to even the playing field for the less usable ones like Iron Thorns.
You forgot to cover Koraidon and Miraidon since they're the Paradox relatives of Cyclizar.
babe wake up jimothy ranked every paradox form in competitive Pokémon
dig the channel man, appreciate you.
What's funny about Iron Jugulis is that Dark/Flying is a pretty good defensive typing and its offenses aren't too bad, it just gets hated on bc we all love Hydreigon lol
And it get hated because of the name...and the reason why is named like that is because the word for "Throat" is Jugulum...now imagine them naming it "Iron Throat" 🤣
Hydreigon is my favorite pokemon and they absolutely masssacred my boy. Why did they give him the worst paradox form? 😞
@@Mrempoleon100 Man's the Throat Goat
@@Mrempoleon100 Lemme find out Iron Jugulis been on the Casting Couch
That Icebird better be top 5 💯
paradox pokemon should either act as a sidegrade of an already good mon (iron moth to volcarona, iron treads to great tusk) or an upgrade to a worse pokemon (iron hands, iron val, great tusk, roaring moon) and if you cannot do that, you're a bad paradox mon
Iron treads is second category because great tusk is also a paradox mon.
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Iron Jugulis is fine IMO since improving on a Pseudolegendary as good as Hydregion is hard without making it broken... Roaring moon gets it just because it's the "Strong" Paradox for it's game at 590 BST, not 570.... IJ also fills a role we don't have yet for Dark/Flying types in the lower tiers as a strong special attacker since Yveltal is banned/not in SV
Brute Bonnet is passively nerfed in Smogon play due to the sleep clause, and for VGC it forms a more offensively oriented version of Amoongus while still keeping it's important tools of low speed, spore, and rage powder
im honestly surprised that sandy shocks is higher than my guy slither wing. you should do a vid on a latter, first impression + tera flying quark drive acrobatics is real cool
slither banded first impression is nasty aff fuck sandy shocks
Proto tera flying acrobatics works better on Roaring Moon bc it has better offense
Bundle is hilarious in doubles. With assault vest it’s the bulkiest ice type in hail despite being super fast and pretty strong
Huh I’ve never seen an AV bundle set, need to try that sometime
? With that 56 hp?
@@remington238maybe its like toxapex where the HP is garbageass but its defenses are so good it doesn’t matter
@@zerovking7629 it has 60 spdef 💀 technically in snow and AV that goes up to 135, which is respectable but not great. Life orb choice specs or booster are all much more valuable in the long term since it’s not very bulky to begin with
For doubles, I like to run proto-speed Sandy Shocks with gravity and max speed Scream Tail with a wide lens and Sing. I just put everything to sleep or paralyze things with Zap Cannon
Iron Jugulis LAST?😞😞 Pour one out for my dude :((
Choice Scarf Iron Moth with Fiery Dance, Sludge Wave and Energy Ball is pretty good too, I use it a lot in ladder
Also, Iron Jugs is great. Especially with tailspeed lined up next to hydreigon or on electric terrain
I understand first the are trash but they are really fun too use
I use brute bonnet in competitive i thought he suck but when i used him more in battle the more i realized he is op
Iron Thorns Dragon Dance-Rock Blast-Earthquake-Tera Blast Tera Grass loaded dice. Is underrated set in UU as well
Man, I just won a 16 week draft league with Iron Jugulis as my ace on my draft bulky offense rain team. We started the league before Pokémon Home additions, and Jugs was an incredible choice scarf user and tera captain. It was so hard for my opponents to kill given how respectable its bulk is.
And the general rule of thumb with Jugulis is that there are basically NO switch ins to Iron Jugulis Hurricanes, especially with Tera Flying. If it wasn’t on a rain team it’d have definitely been pretty meh, but on rain it truly shines and is a seriously underrated mon imo.
Small honor mention to Iron hand for being the most use Pokemon in Tera raid. I have no stats to prove it but my own experience but I would be surprised if it was wrong. The belly drum drain punch set as carried many raids, except when it’s been bringing against a mon that deals supper effective damage.
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Oh its Magneton!
that penguin is powerful
I love this channel
I wish I could actually use the Scarlet paradoxes but It seems like every person I try to link trade with don’t actually know how the system works
:( .
Brute bonnet would be absolutely ou if it was poison/dark. It's typing severely holds it back
Future paradox are funny. The 2 of them base on sudo having trouble finding their role but the one based on the Christmas bird! Oh boy that boy is cooking!
Flutter mane and iron hands are so good in VGC, specs dazzling gleam and fake out are menaces
very much underselling iron jugulis
it has the same coverage as hydreigon, has roost, and it’s faster and stronger
the typing’s just fine as well
Every paradox mon needs a second ability, that simple if you ask me. Some of them are even super obvious, or atleast easy to think up.
Iron Thorns: Electric Surge
Scream Tail: Soundproof/Punk Rock
Great Tusk/Iron Treads: Intimidate/Stamina*
Sandy Shocks: Sand Spit
Iron Hands: Iron Fist
Walking Wake: Swift Swim*
Iron Valient/Iron Leaves: Sharpness
Iron Moth: Levitate*
Roaring Moon: Strong Jaw*
Iron Bundle: Emergency Exit
Flutter Mane: Fluffy
(*= Sadly it makes sense, to me atlrast)
scream tail with the most unique spammed and common type combo
I heard that ff14 music there at the end👀
Endwalker vibes yes💙
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Iron Mugulis was born from the hatred of Jimothy towards Iron Jugulis.
Iron on my jugulis until I quark
I'm sure iron threads will see a lot more usage once the good fairy and electric types come out like Tapu Koko and Zapdos, right now all we have is iron valiant who doesn't lose to threads and rotom wash who isn't an attacker
I agree, to me Iron Treads can switch in more then Great Tusk due to having less weaknesses and one more immunity.
Iron Treads being faster allows it to not only rapid spin but he a set up along with a wall breaker and sweeper. It can even be a mixed attacker if done right.
@@mandalorianhunter1 i dont think it Will become a sweeper, his offense is way too mediocre for this gens power creep
@@RockHoward256 what are you talking about?
Those stats are great.
It has a lot in both physical defense and offense while not lacking in the special side that it can be a mixed attacker or defender.
It has great coverage options to challenge multiple types so it's far from mediocre.
I can barely see Great Tusk being a special attacker or wall.
@@mandalorianhunter1 yeah but ground steel coverage is mid. excadrill was uu last gen despite being a stronger iron threads with swords dance
@@mandalorianhunter1 Also threads is a rocker with a bad matchup against ground type rockers. but great tusks great defense and hp allows it to beat the rockers 1v1
Would you make a video going over the idea behind complex bans and why they arent more common, as well as listing some complex bans you think would be healthy? Personally i would ban Last Respects, Rising Voltage on Eleki, And limiting OU teams to 1 pokemon from top 5 usage statistics. Im curious to hear your thoughts
I'm sorry but that's an abismal take. For starters, banning moves is a slippery slope. Ban RV on Eleki? Let's ban moonblast and shadow ball on Flutter Mane. Ban Collision Course on Koraidon and Electro Drift on Miraidon. Ban Hydro Pump on Bundle. The move itself has to be broken, not the mon.
Forcing "creativity" won't accomplish anything. It makes the game way more complicated. Imagine a newcomer making a team and running across what seem arbitrary restrictions they might not even understand.
Also, why limit the most used pokemon? Just because a mon is used a lot it doesn't mean brokenness or overcentralization. That's what bans are for.
Not to mention that that sort of restriction based on usage statistics would itself influence those stats, making everything even more complicated.
Leave Brute Bonnett alone, it's just going through a phase
3 am reaction
Brute bonnet is 100% worse than iron jug but I do agree they are both at the bottom
Next gen theyll probably give all the paradox pokemon different abilities
Sandy shocks can function in OU UNTIL landerous is legal
GIVE IRON HANDS THE IRON FIST ABILITY
I take it this is Showdown and/or singles not VGC doubles, because the best in that format is Scream Tail, followed by Iron Hands.
Nah Flutter mane and bundle are the best, then Iron hands, then scream.
Yeah I wonder why is Iron jugulis feel so Weak. With its special attack stat it should be good but I don't feel like it's doing enough damage. I used all the paradox pokemon on 2 different teams in OU and Iron Jugulis just feels weak. I still love using Hydreigon though
hydreigon has seen spl usage even
Honestly they set Iron Jugulis for failure when they made him able to spawn in the same cave as Iron Valiant, like the only thing its got going over Hydriegon is the fact that if you're matched up against a Dragapult it wont straight 1 shot you with Dragon Darts but other than that it really doesnt got anything, its slower than Iron Valiant, Iron Moth, and Roaring Moon. Me personally I wouldnt put it at the absolute bottom I think Iron Thorns, Brute Bonnet, and in some cases Slither Wing are worse but not by much, poor Iron Jugulis maybe in a world where every Paradox Pokemon had a alternate ability they could use as well as Protosynthesis and Quark Drive it'd be something special (maybe like if it had regenerator, or hell even Pressure to use up recovery moves faster) but no it has nothing
Play it in VGC. It's really not that bad at all
@@grandempress1947 I dont care for doubles Im talking strictly singles
@@wildtacocat
Fair is fair. But some Pokémon are very clearly not designed to work at full capacity in singles. Jugulis happens to be one of them alongside Brute Bonnet. They're totally different monsters in doubles
@@grandempress1947 I mean jugulis isn’t “very clearly” designed for doubles that’s like saying so is Iron Valiant or Bundle lol
better example is Iron Hands, that pokemon is Tearing Up VGC frankly
I will NOT tolerate brute bonnet and iron jugulis slander in my realm.
brute bonnet growth in the sun can blow people up especially terra fairy.
and hurricane in the rain jugulis is amazing.
Iron thorns is pure balls I admit that.
love the face reveal
You forgot Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon, the OG paradox pokemon
It really is disappointing that none of these mons got a unique ability, though I can imagine some of them having the stats they do + an actually helpful ability might push them over the edge. It feels like the same design philosophy as the ruin quartet, where the abilities are all just "make my stats better", it's a bit boring.
They're basically the Ultra Beasts for this game....
As a Jugulis fan I do not accept any other position than dead last for it, we gotta send the message across: a complete downgrade to the Pokémon it's based on, even its design is the most boring and lazy of all future paradox forms, this is not ok
brute bonnet 3am reaction
The future paradox forms (except Iron Moth) All have Charizard Syndrome: Lazy design+Half baked typing. I'm particularly upset that they didn't use the opportunity to make truly ambitious type combinations like Ice/Poison Drapion or a Dual Type Eevee.
why does sandy shocks need 81 attack... could've put 10 in both speed and special attack
Jimothy, if you could add a Past and Future paradox, which one would you like? I'd really like to see a future Aerodactyl that follows Genesect's design and a past Ledian that somehow fixes him lol
Future Golurk or Spiritomb for me
@@mkv3542 Future Golurk would be so cool!!!! He could be a mecha :D
@@piku2able and future spiritomb could be a hologram display
Iron thorns and bonnet are RU
IMO iron bundle isnt as insane as people thought,prob still need to be banned,but there were prob some other mons that should’ve been banned sooner
like chien pao
Gotta watch on 1.5 speed cause of all the long pauses
Its crazy that 2 of the paradox pseudos were both future and are not that great
Iron Midulis
It is kinda lame that none of the paradox Pokemon have unique abilities. Protosynthesis and Quark drive is fine on their own as abilities, but I would've loved to see Iron Jugulis as a Dragon/Steel type with levitate, among a few other examples
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It’s interesting how sometimes a subtle change either is a huge improvement or just completely awful. Like Fluttermane I think is one of the best paradox based just on design. Comparatively Scream Tail is by far the worst design.
Iorn 🅱️ugulis
I feel like iron bundle is kinda mid good speed but not much good moves so very mid
I mean being it’s so powerful you don’t really need coverage
252+ SpA Choice Specs Iron Bundle Hydro Pump vs. 120 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Riolu: 252-297 (100.3 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
"I feel like Calyrex-Shadow is very mid not much coverage"
@@DkKobaADV where did eviolite riolu come from?
You gotta be kitten me
You know whats dumb, scream tail doesn't get roar, for peace sake it has scream in the name.
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Those are some high budget videos.
@@jimothycool I agree, fellow human.
What makes paradox pokemons good? Beating great tusk
What makes paradox pokemons bad?
Being beating great tusk
Great tusk is superior
🫠
Change the mic position man
no
The real paradox is why some of this Pokemon were made in the first place.
Robodelibird is perfectly balanced
Iron jugulis is the worst paradox form, design and competitive wise
Based.
Iron Jugulis is much much better than Scream Tail
nah it has nothing going for it
Nah, scream tail isn't an amazing support mon but it's still a very good one, and wish support is a pretty unique niche in the current meta. Meanwhile Iron Jugulis just... Doesn't have much going for it
Let’s be real they all have pretty awful names.