Temperature limit of a canister stove?
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I saw a video where a guy in super cold weather was running a Jetboil on canisters. He wrapped a loose windscreen around the running stove. In that somewhat warmer microclimate, the canister ran fine. For what it's worth.
Brilliant upload bud, 👏👏
Thanks for the video. Proof positive, I’ll stick to my old WhisperLite.
For those who don't know, as you are building your camp up, pull out your canister from your bag 1st, keep it next to your body as you establish your night home. It will warm up the fuel and have better performance out in the woods as opposed to starting it cold.
Forget the canisters. I'm still using my brass Optimus 00 kerosine stove and my Seva 123 white gas I have used the past 55 years. They have never failed me in the cold. I have used them on backcountry cross country ski trips at temps below -20 F -28.9 C. For two person trips. The weight is comparable to the canister stove and burn hotter. No canister to dispose of. Both stoves need to be primed but that only takes a minute or two in extreme cold. The Optimus 00 has a built-in pump to pressurize. Two highly reliable stove that have never failed me.
The scientific in you had to make the real experience ! Hypotesis, experience and conclusion 👍
Good to know! I have never been camping in temperatures lower than -14 degrees C.
Good test. In winter I keep the Whisperlite liquid fuel stove in the backpack. In Calgary too.
Damn, I need to test this. This cold weather this weekend is perfect, thanks for the reminder. (Only -5 F in my hood of Denver)
Yep... Is what it is with canister stoves. Good backyard demo here that needs to be performed, familiarized, and evaluated by stove users... well in advance of reliance in demanding cold. Various strategies to better mitigate the scenarios (some more fiddly to radical, even risky than others)... but fiddling work around solutions, taking additional time, or taking risks in super cold conditions are not good game planning. Boil times are a tough go deep into the minus -0 F temps.
There is another option; by adding an adapter you could use a 1lb propane canister. Yes, the 1lb canister is heavier but it also contains more gas. In the winter you are going to carry more fuel anyway to melt snow. The vapor temperature of propane is -42 C (-44 F) and butane is 0.6 C (33 F) at sea-level atmospheric pressure. A propane/butane mixture which is in many backpacking fuel canisters lies somewhere between these limits. I suspect that in colder temperatures when using a propane/butane mixture, the propane will burn off first and the remaining butane can't sustain the vapor pressure to maintain fuel pressure to the stove and therefore stove performance will suffer over time.
Super demo! Thanks.
The metric systeme is used so that they can say 4" inches ist 10 cm or 100 mm !
…now we all know. Thanks for the demo, Kane! 🙏🏼
Great test!
Good demonstration of how the temp is working against you with canister system.
Maybe you should finally buy in Decathlon a fuel can -25°C and give it a try?
Im taking my Firemaple again tomorrow for a trip. Should be around zero F in the morning possibly lower. Going to see if I can make another season before a possible change to MSR or something else of quality. Bring extra snacks. Good luck on your trip and any more info on the subject would be appreciated
Great test. Also, disturbing that it actually got colder here in Calgary than -25. Haha.
Same story with butane stoves...zero degrees C is limit. Dual fuel butane/propane cookers can run propane at colder temps. Really a white gas show below zero is preferred.