She "Woke Up" at the Funeral Home
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Yesterday, Timesha's family confirmed that she passed away on Sunday, October 18. She had been in a coma for nearly two months, after she was incorrectly declared dead on August 23. The family's attorney attributed her death to brain damage suffered because she had been left without medical treatment for four hours, leaving her brain deprived of oxygen. Timesha's family is now suing the city and the paramedics, who have in the meantime had their licenses suspended and been placed on leave.
That is awful I hope the family get justice and the medical professionals that did this lose their jobs
What a terrible tragedy! There is no way to compensate Timesha's grieving family for her suffering and wrongful death. There is no excuse for the horrible way this woman was treated and her family's concerns ignored.
Thanks for the update. What a horrific thing to happen, I hope she gets justice
Boredman567 --- Thank you for the update.
The family should be compensated for their trauma, and the mistreatment of Tamisha.
I hope the City of Detroit does not try to defend their case by claiming the loss of Tamesha did not constitute the absence of an income generating person. It's been done in cases involving the death of elders.
RIP Tamesha.
Here is a link to the Daily Mail giving the time line of the events that day. As horribly sad that she has died there is more to the story than Bored stated. The fact that Geoffrey Feiger is handling this also speaks volumes. May she be free of pain & her disabilities gone as she was greeted by Jesus in heaven. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8666701/Michigan-paramedics-checked-womans-vital-signs-THREE-TIMES-wrongly-declared-dead.html
thats not a medical mistake, thats medical negligence
Medical negligence AT BEST. At worst attempted murder.
Just FYI:
Medical negligence legally it ascribes no intent or ill will behind the negative outcome. I.e. it WAS a “medical mistake” or just an accident.
Malpractice ascribes intent/foreknowledge that what you were doing was wrong/dangerous and you did it anyway either hoping it would work out or because you were cutting corners.
Attempted murder being straight up Homicidal and purposefully trying to kill someone.
Fine lines of differentiation to be sure as someone can die in each instance but the maximum penalty is very different for each case in question.
Malpractice
Negligence is a legal term
Negligence is a legal
And maybe some racism.
Imagine the horror of being alive and placed in a body bag and not being able to communicate that you’re still alive. absolutely heartbreaking.
Why they used to put a string in a casket attached to a bell up top....
Or cremated 😓
I seriously doubt any of her brain was functional enough for her to know anything.
@@828enigma6 They tested for brain activity. It was there.
@@nhmooytis7058 That’s where the term ‘dead ringer’ came from : )
She died shortly after this video due to the paramedics taking her to the funeral home.
“She died as a result of massive brain damage that was suffered when Southfield paramedics wrongly declared her dead, and failed to provide her much-needed oxygen. Instead, she was sent to a funeral home which then discovered that her eyes were open, and that she was alive.”
Disgusting that her family was disregarded when voicing concerns that she could still be alive.
As a nurse I don't understand how her Godmother could let the EMTs take her. And the attorney is a total jerk!
Especially as one of her family is a NURSE!! 😠😠😠😡😡😡
Her family SHOULD have called the police and spoken directly to the doctor on the call! If I even thought for a second my child was still alive I would have pitched one hell of a fit!!
disgraceful, I would have fired them.
I figure that in a time of such distress, a professional can convince you that your own observations are hallucinatory - and certainly they may be, though clearly that wasn't the case here. Maybe her family began to doubt their own observations as the paramedics assured them that their relative was dead.
She eventually died. Caitlyn was correct that her lack of medical attention caused irreparable damage.
That's sad.
just read this about her actual death “She died as a result of massive brain damage that was suffered when Southfield paramedics wrongly declared her dead, and failed to provide her much-needed oxygen,”
Thank you for the update. It's so sad and frightening.
@@EmmAPestilenciA so pretty much, they killed her.
This is ridiculous 😒
As a disabled woman I have experienced what it’s like to be treated horribly for something you can’t help. I can’t say what it’s like to be a black disabled woman or being a dead disabled person. But I can tell you we are treated as if we are not human or we’re idiots. I don’t have the disability’s she has but I’m honestly horrified at how they treated her.
You can be an advocate for other disabled people, even if you don't have their disabilities. It's not white knighting because you are also disabled in one way or another.
absolutely agree, as a fellow disabled person myself. just saw a comment where someone explicitly called her "quality of life" as being "nil" and insinuating that she's better off dead (she later passed away, sadly) and it made me so, so furious, because we know they'd say the same about us if we couldn't talk or advocate for ourselves. that's why it's so important to speak up for women like this, when they can't do so themselves, and even their families are ignored. we can amplify each other's voices. we may not share all the same conditions, nor the same contributing factors like race or gender, but disability is the one demographic which spans all others, and therefore solidarity is paramount if we want to survive and thrive.
Sad that this NURSE questioned the medics, and instead of rechecking, their ego let this poor girl go to a FH! 🤬🤦🏼♀️
Their ego and especially their biases. Disgusting. She may have lived if not for the prolonged lack of oxygen. They got their licenses back after a recertification too.
Not a nurse. A paramedic. Way different
They were Paramedics
@@katscratchfever3506Yeah, RN's have way more training than paramedics
“The funeral home professionals were the only people here who know what a living person looks like.” I AM LIVING FOR THIS QUOTE!!!
Couldn't imagine if they had actually gone about preparing "the body"....!!!!
Was that pun planned? lol
@@TheMistressMisery 😂😂😂😂
I want a heartfelt gothic movie with this as a significant line in the narration
"I've been a nurse for 38 years..."
38 YEARS. The woman has been saving lives and caring for the sick for 38 YEARS and they couldn't even give her the professional courtesy of a second look?! Let alone just doing their job!
🤦♀️
Think this story is more about ableism and what may well be some sort of attempt at 'mercy killing'. Not sure of all the facts, but for 4 firefighters/EMS to go so far out of their way to not recessitate seems abit wonky. Also odd that a nurse of 38 years wouldn't be more proactive if she really thought they were bagging up a relative she knew may not be dead...so many weird things in this story.
@@fortusvictus8297 Thank you That is what I said! I have been in the medical field for over 25 years myself. Maybe the plot twist in this story is that the God mother may have done something and called the ambulance to make it seem more legit but things didn't go quite as she planned. Remember, care takers of the disabled are just as shady and do things like I just mentioned. Then try to flip the script and blame the EMTs. Seen it happen.
@@fortusvictus8297 completely agree with that last paragraph ...that part of the story is odd to say the least
Paramedics, are not as well trained as medical professionals like doctors and nurses.
They should at least give the family a second look. I'm going to get a mirror to check her breathing and demands the stethoscope to check her vitals.
You say a defibrillator can check for pulse? Awesome!
My Dad woke up in a morgue once back in the 60's in Reno. He wrapped the sheet around himself, walked out to the reception area and scared the beejesus out of the night attendant! He was a heavy drinker who was known for getting into bar fights. Made for his favorite story to tell afterwards though!
Jesus lol
WOAH!!!!! What led him to be put in the morgue?
I'm sorry you had to live with his alcoholism. It's genetic. Be careful. I quit when I was. My mom, dad, and I are in AA. 1984. My son doesn't drink because he knows he's genetically pre-disposed.
@@monicapyle "Jesus lol" -- speaking of which...
I’m so glad his story had a happy ending.
Ehhhhh I don’t know about this.
My elderly aunt woke up at the funeral home. She fell asleep during her brother's funeral. She is very elderly, & it became a funny joke, because she was snoring loudly. Even she laughed about it.
“This study shows that if you’re a morbidly curious individual you’re more psychologically resilient during the pandemic...” Interesting🤔
Scientists also say that if you are a black metal fan, it adds a +3 bonus to pandemic resilience. And by worshipping Lucifer you can gain an immunity, but also a -4 combat penalty against nuns wielding holy water.
*me having anxiety attacks because this pandemic has screwed me over* : "ha ha yeah I'm psychologically resilient!
Hmmm... This is actually a good research topic... Should I...?
Treasury Of Snow the flu has a cure and a vaccine and also asking people to not breathe on everything all the time isn’t what communism is
oh that's us
My sister has cerebral palsy and this is straight up terrifying. Massive props to the funeral home for doing their jobs. The paramedics acted out of ableism and would rather have assumed this woman to be dead than continue any investigation.
#truth. As someone who works with people with disabilities I know we have to speak for them always cause most of the time the medical staff have no clue of what they are looking at or dealing when someone can not tell them personally what is wrong.
I take care of a young man with cerebral palsy and learning that this happened has me outraged. That EMT/paramedic should be in jail for negligence, and then never allowed to work with living beings again. I hope this young lady survives and continues a happy life.
Ok here....DPOV(different point of view)
Why does everything have to be racist? Especially without fact, when ALL you’ve been given in this video is the opinion that it was racist? Maybe not racist at all... stupid maybe? AND if that woman who’s been a nurse for 30 years was questioning her passing WHY DIDN’T SHE do anything? She had all the power to stop them! Call the police! What nurse would let their loved one be put into a body bag when she’s admitted herself that SHE had doubts? I’ve gone to get an ICU physician after pronouncement of death when it appeared they started breathing again.... and they were. This story doesn’t make sense.
@@sendieloo - ableism is not racism. Lol.
OP posted about ableism and the story definitely has ableist undertones. It’s your opinion if racism was a factor, but remember your view of the world and its inequalities may be different than others.
@@WizKhalia13 I’m not dumb. I know the difference dear. Melissa brought up racism and that’s what I was speaking upon.
Also, I didn’t just speak on racism I also spoke on the negligence of the so-called nurse in the story. I say so-called because nothing in the story proves that she was an LPN or RN. I’ve lost count of how many family members of patients told me that they were nurses when they were only CNA’s.
Me: wow, how did they send her to the funeral home so fast? that seems like there was some things skipped procedurally
Caitlin: Timesha was Black and had cerebral palsy
Me: ah
I remember reading about the story when it happened
The funeral home pr someone working in it made a statement and still reffered to her as, "the body"
She was alive at that point. It's just a word, but it was so dehumanizing
I had the same thought 😔
🎯🎯🎯
🎯🎯🎯🎯there it is
Facts 💯. It's sad that she died later due to their negligence.
I am a physician. I still remember the first time I encountered a freshly deceased person. I was in my 3rd year of residency in Obstetrics and Gynecology. This unfortunate lady had terminal cancer and I was covering the Gynecologic Oncology ward. She had been sedated and died peacefully with her husband at the bedside. He thought she was asleep. I thought she had passed, but I didn't have the confidence to declare her dead, so I got a second opinion from a more senior resident. In obstetrics, we don't see a lot of death. i wasn't willing to make that call.
She's actually really lucky she ended up right at the funeral home rather than a morgue freezer.
Oh jeez, I didn't even think about that,
Colette Santoro this is way more terrifying
That is so heartbreaking. If she has severe cerebral palsy, she could be non verbal, she was probably terrified. I'm disgusted how the families concerns were just ignored.
i can't imagine how traumatizing that experience was. how do you ever trust people after that...
poor sweetheart!
I hope the family can get her help, perhaps EMDR treatment for PTSD would work for her if she survives. Poor woman.
This was a whole episode of evil which you can find on Netflix and amazon prime. The girl in question on the show was not disabled but the hospital had history of stopping early on CPR.
@@shannonhensley2942
Which is interesting. I have a friend working on her nursing degree and one day a woman who had a heart attack(or something, I don’t remember) came in and they did chest compressions for over an hour even after it was obvious she was dead. My friend said the body was even changing colors but they kept going just for that off chance it gets her heart beating again.
The medic in this story just...I don’t even know official procedures but I know you don’t stop after 6 minutes and call them dead.
As a woman of color, thank you for speaking out ♥️💐
As a disabled person, I agree
Wwre all colored I'm white
i cant imagine the grief the family must have experienced. imagine being told your child died (just on it's own that's an absolutely horrific thing to go through), only to be told theyre actually alive, then weeks later they pass away for real. the heartbreak of losing a loved one is enough as it is, imagine having to deal with losing the same person twice in a matter of weeks.
As a paramedic, the “woke up at a funeral home” story is horrifying to me. The implications that the paramedics pronounced a Detroit woman dead because she was disabled and wasn’t is horrifying
Paramedic as well, you don’t stop resuscitative efforts if there is a rhythm! PEA or not, keep working it and transport! Sounds like a gross disregard for their protocols. And what doctor is going to tell a paramedic to stop CPR for anything other than asystole? There has to be a lot more to this story.
The dependency on Dr guidance doesn't help. If it were common practice to verify death with the 7 step process like in Australia this wouldn't have been aligned with guidelines. I cannot imagine not auscultating the chest and leaving any corpse without a 2 minute rhythm strip of Asystole.
@@classicambo9781 We use a multiple step process here, and I personally don’t like to call arrests that aren’t a systole just because of the potential for error
@@classicambo9781 we’d definitely benefit from those protocols here in the US. It can vary from state to state, and individual ambulance service. Where I work, unless there’s signs of obvious death (rigor, lividity, cold, etc.) we generally start CPR and transport. I personally prefer not to pronounce on the scene. Short of obvious signs of death, I transport and let the doctor pronounce in person.
@@LindseyN1223 Also I don't exactly know how it is regulated law wise, but in most of Europe you cannot pronounce someone dead, unless you're a doctor. So a paramedic like myself is only able to "suggest" that this person is deceased if I did my vital checks or found injuries which are not possible to survive. Like a missing head, or mostly missing head, just an example there are more conditions under where I can determine NOT to start resuscitative measures.
I’m literally not allowed to put a DOG in a cadaver bag until I verify it’s heart rate with as stethoscope
I am actually quite surprised she didn't have to go to a hospital first to be pronounced by a doctor, not paramedic in the field. My exs step dad died in our home year ago ( heart attack) and tried cpr while she was calling 911. When they showed up they continued cpr, hooked him to all the monitors and then took him to the hospital. There were multiple paramedics there because volunteers showed up before the ambulance and local police and a State trooper. It was pretty obvious he was dead, even to me. When I started cpr he body temp was already off but I did it to help calm my girlfriend. One of the paramedics told me not to be upset I couldn't save him and that he was most likely dead before he hit the floor. And that once cpr is started they have to see it through. He was transported to the hospital where they confirmed he was dead and that it was a hear attack. I guess they can tell with a blood test? Then he went to a funeral home. And even if they are found dead where I live they have to call the coroner before they can move the body. And I live in a fairly small city/town. Where do these people live that a paramedic can make these kinds of decisions? As for dogs, not the case where I live. I called about a dead animal once thinking animal control would have to come get it and they told me to just throw it in a dumpster or drag into the woods or something whichever was closer.
@@biteme263 it depends a LOT on the state. In some states, paramedics can declare death over the phone with a physician. In other states, it doesn't matter if the patient is in twenty pieces, we still need an MD to make the official declaration.
Either way, horrible practice from the EMTs and paramedics on this one. Personally? My training is that unless it's something blatantly obvious (decapitation is a good example), we're going to attempt resuscitation and stabilization until we can get the patient to a medical center. Just in my (limited) experience as a volunteer paramedic, I've seen a few patients I would have written off as done who ended up bouncing back.
yall use cadaver bags for dogs...we use large black trash bags.
It depends state to state. In cases with a physician attended death in such situations as hospice, or someone having a terminal illness, paramedics, or nurses can declare death. Though they have to listen for lung sounds with a stethoscope as some medical devices pacemakers in particular can cause an artificial pulse as they keep firing trying to restart the heart. And if it is a physician attended death a few phone calls are made. Doctor and coroner, and then the body can be picked up directly by the funeral home. I'm surprised that the paramedics took the body to the funeral home. That sounds very abnormal.
When my 98 year old grandfather died in 1983 in Arkansas, he was declared dead by myself (R.N.) and picked up by the funeral home we chose. He had pancreatic cancer and heart failure so was under a physician’s care and considered terminal. But I did listen to his heart and lungs with a stethoscope even though I could tell he was dead in other ways.
Here in Argentina this is a very common fear. Funerals are 24 hrs at a minimmum with an open coffin and it is that long because it is "in case they are alive and come back". A Funeral is called a "velatorio" which comes from velas = candles because you stay with your deceased loved one up all night, like I said, in case they come back.
Also, it was quite common for cripts and mausoleums to have a door bell on the inside in case someone woke up, so they could alert the "living".
My family's mausoleum was built early 20th century and it has a doorbell on the inside.
Interesting info here. Thanks for sharing.
Apart from the mausoleum/bell thing, that's how my family do funerals. We also prepare the body for funerals ourselves, at home, from childhood (i think i was about 8 when i first did it). I always wanted to work in a funeral home because I'm comfortable around dead bodies because of our customs, but i do talk as I'm doing things, so i decided not to because it might be classed as disrespectful. Shame though.
Tristemente quienes perdimos familiares por covid nunca tuvimos la oportunidad de velar a nuestro familiar, solo se fueron directo al crematorio. Aun tengo pesadillas donde mi padre despierta dentro del horno. Estamos viviendo algo horrible.
This happened right near me...this is heartbreaking. Side note, I love how the reporter described her eyes as beautiful. A sweet sentiment in such a heartbreaking case.
"how could the paramedics determine a woman was dead when she was very much alive?"
[picture of a visibly disabled black woman]
...we know why
I have cerebral palsy. Damn. Not only do we “not exist” we aren’t even alive. Jesus.
@@heyangiej You definitely exist. However, I believe the post is addressing the systemic racism that permeates the US health care practices. As a woman of color, we are doubly not alive. Also, not all disabilities are visible.
cuz they are RACIST!! AHAHAHAHAHAH you people are sad!
This is not blatant racism. It's something ingrained in our culture. It appears that someone of privilege automatically receives better medical care along with all the other perks of power. I had to come to terms with it myself when getting a social work degree. While I've always been an advocate for social justice, there were parts of me that held ignorance and privilege. Like feeling that it's the person's fault for being stuck in poverty in the ghetto. I now work as an addiction therapist in Detroit and see this privileged behavior ALL THE TIME.
@@KrystalLioness bullshit. The paramedics were incompetent and didn't want to admit it. I highly doubt it had anything to do with "racism" or "privilege"--- so stop trying to make the story about anything but gross incompetence. As far as that goes, why did the family allow the girl's body to be taken anywhere if they knew she was alive?
I don't get why they're going after the funeral home. The incompetent medical staff is the one who made the error. It seems to me like they were bias and thought that the family didn't actually want her resuscitated because of her disability. They didn't even use a stethoscope, just pure laziness.
Ditto. I highly doubt they would have started on her, no matter what their lawyer says. Just stupid to blame the funeral home. This isn't their fault, it's the EMTs and who ever they called.
Yes I agree!
I agree! If it wasn't for the work of the funeral home who knows what could have happened. In my opinion they saved her life.
@@aprilsanchez614 and to all of the above, she has now died of brain damage {hypoxia from being sealed up in a body bag for 2 hours?} and the family is suing. Fieger {attorney} has filed a $50 million lawsuit against Southfield EMS Paramedics in the case of Beauchamp.
To pronounce death you need to listen for a min. of 2 min for a heartbeat
My partner woke in a hospital morgue in Spain in the 70s.... He was in the midst of alcohol withdrawal.... Thankfully he's been sober decades. A literal 'wake up call!!!!'
How are paramedics allowed to certify someone dead and go straight to a funeral home?
Is this a US only legal thing??
A doctor has to verify in UK
"He put the meat in a jar with alcohol"
Oh cool. He's gonna take a sample to find out what it is
"And gave it to a railway worker to eat"
Wtf
Ditto this exactly. 😂
Yes! Exactly this. What's the matter with people?
You are hilarious!!! 😂
Caitlyn: "The Kentucky Meat Shower, which is NOT a sex act"
Internet: "Challenge aceepted"
It isn't a band name either, surprisingly.
Sounds better than a Portuguese Breakfast.
@@Kamila-ey5vi I'm not even going to ask *WHY* you know about this. I'm afraid that the answer may scar my psyche for life! 🤯
@@dernudel1615 I'm almost afraid to ask......
@@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980 its a how i met your mother reference haha
"She would have noticed hordes of gagging vultures . . . " Would she? Would she? This IS a community that willingly tasted mystery meat that came from the sky after a dog got sick from it! Maybe they gagged elsewhere and the twister with the brothers took them all up and stopped short of her county but flung the meat further? The big question in the flying meat story is: was the dog ok?
Yeah, get that meat out of that alcohol bottle, I'll take a bite.
I was thinking it was a mafia hit. They chopped somebody up, put them on a plane and sprinkled them over Kentucky!
Yet another radio station manager who thought turkeys could fly.
This scares me because my sister has cerebral palsy, and if people were too treat her like this my gosh I’d be throwing hands
Is it just me or does Alive in a funeral home” sound like a panic at the disco coverband?
alive! in a funeral home
👁👄👁
omfg it does
I chime in with a "haven't you people ever heard of putting bells on toes"
"I chime in with a 'Haven't you people ever heard of... checking the goddamned corpse.'"
I'd be much more surprised if someone woke up DEAD at a funeral home. Or anywhere.
I mean it does happen on the rare occasion. If you count the whole 'muscle contractions causing corpse to sit-up' as "waking up". :D
Very much so....yes..lol
@@13thMaiden Caitlin has told us this doesn't happen!
Caitlin has done a video on the condition where people are convinced they are dead. So there's that.
😄
A similar thing happened with a toddler. She woke up at her own funeral and then died hours later. This was a few days ago in Mexico. It is such a terrifying thing
I don’t trust any part of medical care overseas.
“And breathing, which science tells us dead people do *not* do!”
I don’t know why that made me crack up so hard but it did. Poor young lady.
me, seeing beauchamp is black: ah, it's racism
me, hearing beauchamp has cerebral palsy: ah, it's racism *and* ableism
+++
Same.
Me, reading your post...another idiot.
@@HadToChangeMyName_CZcamsSucks i mean. im basically repeating the thesis caitlin doughty said in a different format.
me seeing a racist make bigoted assumptions: Ah its CZcams
me pointing out the mortuary was black owned an ran in a city that is majority black: *NO ONE CARES ITS STILL RACISM BECAUSE REASONS*
As a 30+ year veteran paramedic, this has to be the WORST story of medical malfeasance I've heard.
Thank you for your service and dedication!
Here is an even worse one
www.independent.co.uk/incoming/pregnant-teenager-neysi-perez-wakes-coffin-day-after-her-funeral-10472094.html
That's IMHO the only good thing with embalming - you can't wake up in your grave...
I've also been in EMS for over a decade and have never heard of anyone not number one following medical command orders and two trying to write off obvious signs of life without doing any kind of assessment. Whoever was on that truck should had absolutely no business being in healthcare. I'm sure you are the same way but unless there are obvious signs of death or the patient has a DNR order that is properly filled out and signed by a physician I do absolutely everything within my power before ending resuscitation efforts.
You're telling me. The first (extremely rural) department I worked on had "determination of death in the prehospital setting" protocols that included "CPR with no response." In our protocol, the medics had to run several minutes of 12-lead showing zero electrical activity, there couldn't be any spontaneous movement or response, the entire crew and the family had to agree, resuscitation wasn't stopped until online medical direction said okay, and the body wasn't moved until a coroner or local physician showed up and actually declared in person. If the family said treat and transport (or, if a doctor or nurse said treat and transport), we treated and transported...1.5 hours to the nearest ER in the only staffed ALS unit in the district, or by life flight if the weather was good.
Somehow, I think the Southfield Fire Department had somewhat less transport time or resource limitations.
Maybe I sm just paranoid but I think it is possible that someone was tired of the time, effort, and.cost of caring for this girl. Plus I am sure there had to be an insurance policy, maybe someone, anyone, felt she had no real quality of life and it would be a relief to be free of the "burden" of caring for her. Maybe the health issues and therapy had simply grown to be too much, and this episode had given them a way out that would free everyone trapped in the lives they had to live. Including the young woman herself. Just a thought....🤔
Thanks for covering this. As a very much alive 34-year-old with cerebral palsy, although less severe....well, I know what differential treatment looks like from medical providers. And it's good to call that out.
I came here thinking I was just going to learn about a woman who woke up in a funeral home. Now I see that I am going to be descending into the rabbit hole to discover the truth behind the meat rain.
Thank you for this! 😊
As a paramedic with over 30 years experience I am appalled: This patient had a pulse, respirations, and a cardiac rhythm. How a decision was made that the patient was deceased is beyond me!!
As another EMS worker I’m appalled by this Medics actions, but it shows what happens when racism and ableism meet in medicine.
This medic sounds like he just wanted to not deal with the patient at all. I wonder if it was shift change soon & he wanted a fast easy call? It’s sad because many times were already seen as the low end of the totem pole and not respected, then a guy like this does something so bad we’re again fighting for basic respect! In NYC we joke Fire the Bravest, Police the Best, EMS the forgotten it’s sad!
sounds like ableism and racism overtaking morality and professionalism to me
@@vamppanic Unfortunately racism, ableism, misogyny, transphobia, fat-shaming are deeply imbedded in the medical industry. If we ever manage to untangle it, I doubt it will be in our lifetime.
Another factor could have been economic. If the woman didn't have insurance that means the paramedic and hospital wouldn't be getting paid. Passing her off the funeral home was away for them to avoid having to take on another expensive charity case. The main issue is America lacks a universal healthcare system like most countries have. The poor are the ones who have to suffer because of it. Thousands of people die every due lack of access to quality healthcare. Just another reason to support Medicare for ALL.
I’m guessing as someone who has a mild disability and a massive disability she was over looked due to being disabled and also extra due to the colour of her skin the amount of misconduct I’ve seen towards me and disability’s I’d be scared of how much misconduct there is for her and she almost got her really hurt
"They were the only professionals here who knew what a living person looks like." I laughed. Out loud.
Disabled people are in just as much danger of ableism and medical malpractice as of harm directly resulting from illness or disability. I'm 2 years late here, but thank you for talking about this.
I still don't understand how anyone could mistake for an alive person for a dead one if you have any experience you absolutely know omg
it's the ableism and racism unfortunately.
My daughter is disabled including CP and this is why parents of medical kids are so hyper-vigilant because there are people who don't respect their humanity. People will write things off as part of their disability and won't listen to the family that something isn't right. Some will lie outright then try and claim they didn't when you call them on it.
Very, very true. Well said
One of the things my partner tells me, is don't let them diagnose you with anything, because if anything happens that might overlap symptoms with it, they will instantly dismiss it as your medical problem. I find this so hard to believe until I see what they do with my elderly mother in law. Everything is 'because of her age'. I'm like, noooo, its because she can't breathe, not because she's 90.
My sister has CP, and every time she's hospitalized, my mom can't leave her room, because the moment she does, they intubate her because "her breathing is weak" when that is just always how her breathing just IS. And then EVERY TIME, WITHOUT FAIL she has ACTUAL trouble breathing when they try to take the tube out. My mother has told them countless times, "DON'T DO THE THING." and they STILL do the thing.
Best thing a doctor, who happened to be my tutor at the time, ever told me regarding disabled kids (it was during my paediatrics rotation): "Always treat them as you would other children, absolutely always. Talk, smile, play, tickle, ask them before you ask their parents. They are someone's child, not a freak to be looked at, not furniture to be disregarded." He was also categorical about listening to the parents, particularly when there were underlying conditions. "They know their kids. They know a different normal, one you're not familiar with. Listen to them." That man is awesome. He's an amazing doctor and one of the best teachers I ever had.
I don't deal with children anymore, only adults. Disability, especially severe mental disability, or severe physical disability that hinders communication, is incredibly challenging. We are somewhat trained to be ableists, so it does take effort and will to remove the prejudice from the picture and look at the person.
I had this cognitively preserved but paralised from the neck down patient that would communicate with blinks, and this idiot of a med student walks in, making all sorts of comments and starts to examine the man without ever talking to him. I walked over and lightly hit him over the back of his head. "This is Jon Doe, he's 24, he was involved in a freak accident playing sports. He can hear you, he can understand you, he just can't talk back. Do you know how I found all that out? I asked him. You failed to obtain consent before examining him and your bedside manner is disgraceful. You're off this case. Apologise and be gone." Damn, I was appaled, but that was oddly satisfying.
@@pipitameruje you are made of awesome win! Thank you! I adore the fact that you are passing on that way of looking at people on to the Jr Docs. Fantasic work!
So. As a woman with Cerebral Palsy myself I just told my able-bodied sister that when I supposedly die, either demand a fucking autopsy (corpses usually don't bleed) or don't let them embalm me and don't bury me 'til I start rotting. Not sure of the legality of that last part but goddamn it's scary that that poor woman was declared dead in part because she was disabled with known health-problems that could possibly make her just suddenly drop dead. And I dunno what meds she's on, but the only thing I know that could cause vitals 'false-positives' is a fucking pacemaker trying to restart a dead heart.
I don't think it has anything to do with CP and their meds but an excuse used. Her peofond disability and they some people view it was probably more accurate. I don't know of any CP meds that would cause something close to false positif sign. Being a woman of color and disabled contributed to the bad traitement. My mother has CP and she has suffered example of a lack of medical care due to this. To be fair we now know that on top of her CP she must have a genetic illiness that is being investigated via me. She was adopted and wen I started suffering things that she went through I was confused since they said it was due to her CP. Me and my boys don't have CP but there is a clear evolution towards some jnjsual heath issue. We know now it is related to channelopathy disorder. Covid put additional treatment and investigation on hold for me.
When she started her incident they blames it on CP and anxiety. Then again let me mention she lived and still dies in a very small town, while I reside near some of the best hospital and it still took me 10 years to have some answer, after having to proove it wasn't psychological.
Just have them bury you with your medical alert mobile help button. Or a cell phone.
@@rowynnecrowley1689 Don't have a medical alert button yet but it's an idea...they used to make those coffin bells in case of premature burials...
@@rowynnecrowley1689 LOL...
Technically your family can hold your body at home after you “die” until your family decides to bury you and it’s completely legal
I'd be absolutely furious.. That poor girl, my god! So beyond heartbreaking!
Let me note, tamisha’s experience is beyond awful and I cried. But then you started talking about the Kentucky meat shower and I laughed every time you said “meat shower” because those are just two words I never imagined going together.
Just imagine how little oxygen she was getting inside the body bag. This is really a sad story.
And she presumably desperately needed medical attention. She was alive but her heartbeat and breathing were nowhere near normal, so she probably wasn't getting enough oxygen without help even without adding the bag into things.
@@junbh2 Yes. Her breathing was probably very shallow which would cause a drop in her blood oxygen level. Just very tragic.
she actually died after that because of brain damage caused by lack of oxygen
Hopefully she became unaware very quickly, but still it’s really hard to think about for the family, I’m sure.
@@curtisscott9251 Wouldn’t that oxygen get used up and replaced by CO2 as the person breathed?
As a disabled woman: THANK YOU! for pointing out that we are absolutely NOT treated the same as everyone else, regardless of how conscious and vocal we may be. I have short gut and short bowel syndrome and was once sent for a contrast CT scan because they didn't believe I only had the 6.5 feet of intestine and bowel that I said I did; the doctor came into my hospital room after reading the scan and said "Oh. You really do only have 6.5 feet of intestine..." and this was a hospital I go to. FREQUENTLY. They have my records which state this. STILL this doctor felt the need to check yet again against both my word and the words of other doctors at that hospital. I get treated like I'm a child frequently (I'm 31) and talked down to simply because I am a paraplegic. Ok, I do look younger than I am, but I definitely don't look 8 like I'm treated sometimes.
I have diabetes and I too am treated like an idiot. Doctors and nurses, physical therapists. They see you as a disease or illness. Since I get Medicare disability they also insist on a million tests you've had a zillion times and are unnecessary.
@@denicesanders4586 I know what you mean, I've had so many repeat x-rays and CAT scans that I should have some kind of super power by now. And yes, that is considering how little radiation there is actually given off by those things nowadays! I have been lucky and have a wonderful GP and amazing specialists, but any time I end up at the ER (I go the same hospital, even though it's 4 hours away) it's just the luck of the draw; it always seems like I get there at shift change too so I swear I always have at LEAST 2 different ER doctors until I'm admitted.
This infuriates me to no end. EVERY person I have ever come across who has a disability always has at least one experience of being treated like shit for no goddamn reason. I'm sick of it. The amount of times people living with disabilities should be treated in that way is zero.
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As a Kentucky resident, a transplant, I found both stories fascinating. That poor woman. The poor girl suffered traumatic injuries that no human should ever have to endure. Hope some heads roll. And the Kentucky Meat Shower? Outstanding. Have you read about the blue people in Kentucky? Not as interesting as a KMS, but still a good read. Thank you for your wit and kindness. And for well, putting fun back in funeral.
Thank you for bringing up the factors of racism, ableism, & misogyny in Timesha's case. Classic ableism.
There's so much carelessness towards disabled folks by medical professionals. As a disabled person myself who communicates all day, every day, with my disabled peers about ableism, all you had to say was "she has cerebral palsy," and I would've gone, "Yep... So they definitely just dumped her off to a funeral home like a piece of trash without checking her pulse or anything."
It's a horrifying reality, but a reality nonetheless. Many medical professionals don't have equity towards disabled folks & they see our worth as lesser, which is terrifying, because where else are we supposed to go when we have our health crises?
A Harvard researcher recently did a survey of physicians and when allowed to be anonymous a vast majority of them admitted they don't like having disabled patients. And to make matters worse their reasoning was that it messes up their ability to see a different patient every 15 minutes....so basically greed.....doctors basically admitted that they don't give a 💩 about caring for people, they got into medicine for the money and so that people would just assume they care.
Of course the reply is deleted. People are awful and ableism isn't talked about enough
When they Ignored a nurse of 38 YEARS??? On top of it all??? So absolutely disgusting.
Not only did the paramedics, but the girls' family ignored her too?
That's the problem with systemic racism. It rarely makes sense, causes many tragedies, and it's absolutely disgusting. Worse, it's so ingrained a lot of people don't even know they're doing it.
The ableism in this story is beyond horrifying.
and the racism, let’s get real
@@selaharmstrong384 The two intersect at a staggering and sad rate.
e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Kinsey
the paramedic's ableism and racism were both obscene. screw them.
Absolutely, and racism. Her life was worth nothing to them.
"Sky Meat" is a phrase that will live in my brain forever now
Something similar could have happened in my family. My mom had an uncle that was found unresponsive (he looked like he had been napping) in the pasture near a fence. This was before cellphones. The guy that found him went to a neighbor’s and called the emergency number. Someone came out and then eventually called for a body car. The mortician couldn’t get away, so, he sent his wife and his assistant. They put him in the back and put a cover over him. On their way to the mortuary, they hit a pothole. The bump brought my mom’s uncle back to awareness and he sat up. The assistant jumped out of the moving vehicle and the mortician’s wife practically swerved off the road. They radioed the hospital and the mortuary with what was going on. My mom’s uncle lived for another 10 years. He said my mom’s aunt moved into town sometime before his death. Next door to the mortuary.
Update: she died (for real) about 8 weeks later. The family sued for 50 million (still in litigation, as of Dec. 2020). The supervisor claimed the situation was due to 'Lazarus syndrome'.
The EMS workers involved had their licenses revoked...initally. The EMS workers sued to stop the revocation and won...they had to retake the certification test, participate in extra training in regards to dealing with families and the main worker had to write a three page essay about what he learned.....
They should not have won. Those people did not simply screw up.. they just didn't give a damn. How gross.
A three page essay!?!? That’s what my mother made one of her 3rd grade students do when he stole the class turtle. That is not an appropriate punishment for what happened here!
The only patients those swine should be helping are organ transplant patients.
Excuse me? He wasn't mean to a substitute teacher, he costed a family a lifetime of suffering, and quite probably a young woman's life.
@Heather Lynn Maybe it would happen less if we stopped reinstating the licenses of EMS workers who declare people dead despite clear and obvious signs of life.
I truly can’t imagine how terrified Tamesha must’ve been, especially being unable to speak up for and defend herself. I hope her and her family get justice for this, they must be so angry at this situation.
Given that she's in critical condition, she likely wasn't even conscious, and may still be unaware of what happened.
@@sarahp6512 Even when unconscious the brain is working and there’s evidence to suggest that people are often more aware than they seem, unfortunately, in this case. I hope she has no knowledge of this.
@@normalpeopleboreme I hope so too. It's awful that this happened and I hope she gets the justice and care she deserves.
For her sake, I hope she wasn't conscious - or at least not conscious enough to understand what was happening
@@sarahp6512 I really hope that was the case, this poor woman...
I’d love to hear more “no ones asking” series’s! 💕💕
Thank you for giving attention to the problems people with disabilities too often face while seeking competent medical care.
UPDATE: The 20-year-old woman who was found breathing in a Detroit funeral home has now died, attorney Geoffrey Fieger announced.
On Oct. 18, Timesha Beauchamp died at Children's Hospital as a result of brain damage, Fieger said.
Fieger has filed a $50 million lawsuit against Southfield EMS Paramedics in the case of Beauchamp.
Rip, Timesha. I hope her family’s able to find some kind of justice. Disability or not, those medics need to be held accountable for their negligence, especially since the family fought so hard to advocate for her.
So sad 😞 RIP beautiful soul
What a horrible story
@@swimmyswim417 I agree! She died from Brain Damage, so... hypoxia? From being sealed up in a 'body bag' for two hours, yeah, sounds about right.
I wish stories like this weren't as common as they truly are.
As they should
6:00 no amount of the strongest drug can cause a dead person to breathe. That paramedic should never be allowed near a dying person again.
living people either
Unfortunately they got recertified after they sued (she died 8 weeks after this case and the family sued) to get their certification renewed. They had to go through training again and then wrote a 3 page essay to say what they’d learned.
@@jessicathomas73 I agree but this shit is broken
he was just making up excuses on the spot. seems to me like the paramedics didn't want to bother with treatment (particularly physically tiring CPR) anymore because they saw a black woman with cerebral palsy as not worth the effort. "life unworthy of living" is what the nazis called all the disabled people they murdered (aktion T4).
Well, to be honest, it’s not likely to be a mistake he’ll ever make again, so actually makes him safer in that respect than people who’ve never made such a massive error.
What's scary is that this happened near me. I'm literally an hour from Detroit.
I am closer, and I remember seeing this on WDIV
Thank you for covering Timesha‘s story. Have you ever considered a story about Kevorkian’s work? I know it’s a very controversial topic, but I personally see him as an angel of mercy for those who otherwise would have suffered greatly and a brave person to sacrifice his freedom so that others could die in dignity and comfort. He forced an important discussion that we have since stopped having.
All I can say is this...in my state, Texas, where I was a paid firefighter/EMT for 29 years, ambulances do not deliver bodies to funeral homes. Paramedics do not declare death, unless there is a very well defined set of circumstances presented. Decapitation, decomposition, things like that. A strip must be run from a heart monitor for at least 60 seconds showing no electrical activity, a BP reading of 0 must be obtained and no breathing observed. Only then will the medical director be contacted for a declaration of death. And, at anytime, the family can insist that the patient be transported to a hospital. So, there's my 2 cents worth on the matter. If any part of this story, as reported, is true, several people should be banned from any form of medical practice at any level. Paid or volunteer.
Same where I worked as an ER RN. Even lividity doesn’t allow an EMT to declare death because there are medical conditions that living people can have that causes lividicus rash. It has to be actual decomposition or decapitation. Low and slow HRs can look like no VS.
Morticians, saving lives one non-corpse at a time.
😂🤣
We need this on a t-shirt
Slowly but surely
"She would have noticed hoards of gagging vultures flying by." That cracked me up. It sounds like a Family Guy episode skit.
Thank you. I have a lot of fears about death and what happens to our bodies. You've been helping me come to terms.
Unfortunately, I am nearly positive her disability was part of why this happened. Disabled bodies are so often overlooked and mishandled by "professionals". It is beyond disgusting. Let's look at this story and this how absolutely terrified she must have been. She was alive and conscious inside a body bag, unable to get out or alert anyone on her own. Being in a disabled body is scary sometimes when we have zero control over what is happening. She is such a fighter and is so strong!!
Beautifully stated
Timesha's Aunt's facial expression is every nurse talking to a doctor.
Ugh same
OMG, yes! 🤣
Yep. I repeatedly remind my med student wife that nurses are the ones in charge, just so the ones she works with get a break from the docs who think they run the place. Fortunately, she loves nurses anyway.
@@SewardWriter My uncle, who is a doctor, once told me that without nurses and the medical secretaries to run things at hospitals and clinics, he and the other doctors would just be running around like clueless idiots. I don't even think he was exaggerating either 😄
@@Khenfu_Cake Doctor here, he was not. Rule number one of being a doctor, as I was told by a resident on my first day on rotation (still a med student): "do not piss off the nurses, listen to the nurses, be nice to the nurses, they're in charge of your patients for most of the day." If a nurse tells me that there's something wrong, I get over there and check, they're pretty much always right.
With the pandemic, there was an outbreak in one of the wards of my hospital. One of the patients, that had tested negative earlier, turned out to be positive and have Covid. He had 4 other infected patients, but the worst bit was that out of the 8 nurses in that ward 6 were positive, as well as 3 of the aids . Needless to say, the following morning was a mess, as there were 4 or 5 doctors there in the morning (between assistants, residents and interns), all equally clueless about how to go about their day.
And medical secretaries not only run the place, they pretty much rule it by virtue of ordering your pile of paperwork. Most of them are "no nonsense allowed" women that could probably take down the Board.
you need more segments of “everyone’s asking no one’s asking” loved it!!
You are so adorable Kaitlyn. I love how you are so expressive with your eyes and tell such funny stories. I always learn interesting things too. Thanks so much!
Everyone’s talking about the woman waking up in a funeral home and I’m stuck on the Kentucky meat shower
Me too. I won't lie... might have tried it. Cooked of course.
The hot dog photo was my favorite bit. 😆
@@stephaniecarter887 ha ha me too.
Mystery meat
That’s what my comment was about lol
Cloudy, with a chance of meatballs.
This is EXACTLY why, as a hospice nurse who pronounces people dead regularly, I will use a stethoscope and stay on a person's chest listening for 1-2 minutes, in addition to checking other signs. I have a paralyzing fear of pronouncing someone dead who is NOT dead. I want to be more than sure before I send someone to a funeral home in a bag. The paramedic in this story was grossly negligent. Also the vulture vomit... of course none of the ladies were silly enough to try stinking, mucus mystery sky meat. They have more sense than that.
Doctor here. "chest listening for 1-2 minutes" this and a monitor whenever in a loud environment, also corneal reflexes. Short of it, I'm not calling it. Agonic patients, especially when we've decided against further interference, have taught me that.
@@pipitameruje i was hoping this case was going to be Lazarus Phenomenon and not horrible medical practice yet sadly here we are
Whereas a man says, "This is gross", then has at least 5 more bites.
Thank you for doing the job you do. I couldn't. There was a squirrel dead in the road the other day and I broke out my stethoscope JUST TO MAKE SURE. 🤦♀️
I remember seeing this on the local news! It occurred in the county that I live in!
I love how you say "No one's asking." But I'm not asking only because I don't know this stuff. This is fascinating and I want more of those segments.
"Would do anything for a bag of flamin hot cheetos and a cannabis gummy"
I've never felt so personally attacked
Caitlyn: "The Kentucky Meat Shower, which is NOT a sex act"
The Internet: "It is now!"
Rule 34. No exceptions.
Unsurprisingly, it has an entry on Urban Dictionary.
Thank you, Caitlin! That´s what I needed to give my brain a break. Now I will have bad dreams tonight, but you can´t have everything, can you. You are wonderful!
I'm not quite ready to call myself a death enthusiast, but I do find these videos rather entertaining, and sometimes more informative than regular documentaries, like the one about the Saint Francis Dam. And I love Caitlin's sense of humor and respect.
It's disgustingly clear that this woman's life was devalued and literally thrown away prematurely because she was a disabled black woman, and while this is an extreme case of that, it's a really obvious example of it, too. I'm way more mad at the doctors and paramedics involved than the funeral home.
While I completely understand where you're coming from, I'd like to look at the bigger picture - what is the workload on the paramedics? Detroit has no money and is probably overworking their staff. They may be pressured to close out cases that will not end well so they can run to the next accident/shooting. This may not be a case of a bad paramedic as much as good people doing their best under really bad pressure. Keep in mind, if they refuse to participate by quitting, then it makes the situation that much worse. As such, I'm saving my outrage against them until I know more about the situation they're in as misplaced outrage will fix nothing.
@@russellhltn1396 wait so you’re saying that it’s okay that they sent a living women to a funeral home because they’re overworked?? I’m hoping I misunderstood you
@@krissyperry3765 I'm not saying it's ok, I'm shifting the bulk of the blame. The fault may lie with the employment environment more then with the paramedic. In that case, even if you fired the paramedic, it wouldn't fix the problem and it will happen again. You're blaming the underling for the faults of the higher ups. Do a web search for "detroit finances" and tell me that's not a recipe for major, major problems. From what was described, it sure sounded like someone who wanted to close out this call quickly rather then spend a lot of time on it. Why? What's the rush? That's the questions that need to be asked. Putting good people into a bad situation will eventually give you bad results.
@@russellhltn1396 While I agree with you that paramedics may be overworked and there need to be more funds/resources available to them, I have to disagree with your statement that this may have just been "good people doing their best under really bad pressure". I don't care how overworked you are -- seeing the patient breathing and having a registered nurse tell you that the patient has a pulse, and then still insisting on bringing her to a funeral home rather than continue to fight for that patient's life is a very far cry from "doing their best".
the funeral home ironically saved her life.
Sad update: Tamesha ended up passing away. It was reported today 😢. Hopefully her family will get justice.
Is your definition of "justice" determined by the size of the award?
@@maxsdad538 Sorry - what award? I know I didn't write the original comment but Tamesha's family deserve the terrible medical personnel be punished and to be financially compensated for their (the family, obvs) suffering for sure.
@@JudyCZ don't feed the troll,they're just being a jerk.
@@maxsdad538 what the hell is wrong with YOU. You are a very sick person.
@@ladyredl3210 He is a very sick individual.
How comforting your macabre demeanor is in removing people's anxieties about funerals.
I am so glad this channel popped up in my "recommendations"! Caitlyn is a charming, interesting and engaging host!
That poor girl. That is heartbreaking. Imagine how terrifying that experience must have been for her.
Rachel G That was my first thought. Poor girl, I can't even imagine.
I imagine the experience was quite terrifying for the funeral home employees too.
I live by this place
she is still in hospital as of last month, “Beauchamp remains in critical condition at a hospital. The family’s attorney, Geoffrey Fieger, said only her brain stem was functioning”.
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Thank you for the update, although it is sad news.
My sister has cerebral palsy just like this girl, and this story scares the absolute living shit out of me for her.
Pulse oximeters are inexpensive, and usually have a heartbeat indicator. It might be a good idea to keep one on hand.
An ex boyfriend had cerebral palsy, and I'm grateful that he never had a life-threatening experience while we were a couple. I find this incomprehensible and unacceptable; paramedics are often under pressure, but they're trained better than, "Oops, not breathing, where's that body bag?"
My daughter has CP although she is able to speak and care for herself... but she still experiences a TON of brushing off by medical professionals. It's so hard to get people to actually investigate what the problem is rather than just "it's because she has CP"
Obviously check your local laws, but I'm pretty sure when a relative dies at home, you don't have to agree to them being taken away immediately and can request that they're left for the night and picked up the next morning. It's not that long ago that wakes used to be a really common thing.
....I HEAR YA............
The meat shower story was hilarious! Outstanding work!
That explains the reason I was capable of ignoring there was a quarantine during the pandemic vs now being so bothered by everyone complaining about the severity of the situation they experienced.
If I found a pulse on ... anyone... and the EMT ignored me, I’d be calling 911 with a criminal complaint.
“That science tells us dead bodies do not do” lol
I'm no scientist, but even I had to roll my eyes at "her condition and her medications causing her chest to rise".....COME ON!!!!!
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I died lauging at that xD
@@AxxLAfriku ...wat?
@@AxxLAfriku huuuuhhh??
(Although now I'm tempted to check out your YT)😏
That is horrible, my heart goes out to her family. That is just unacceptable.
Here in Australia only doctors are allowed to determine a person's death. We have certain criteria that must be filled out before stating death and before people are collected by mortuary staff, in hospital. Checks continue before the body is collected by funereal homes. Poor girl and family.
This is why paramedics shouldn't be pronouncing deaths. Doctors should be.
In the UK ONLY a Doctor, in person, can pronounce death. That applies even if the head is missing.
Paramedics don't pronounce death. Ever. You call a doctor over the phone, tell him or her what is going on, and the doctor gives orders to terminate resucitation efforts. And then you stop there.
@@solentbum The US used to be more like that, then exceptions like decapitation started rolling in and it's been downhill from there. And even if policies and regulations are in place, this was clearly a case of negligence like she mentioned, they stopped 6 minutes before they should have even before calling the doctor.
Or a coroner.
@Taylor Swiftie There are not nearly enough doctors in the US to go to every dead body. Paramedics have an extensive education and are trusted with operating independently in order to treat people and save lives. If they can be trusted to do that, they can do this. Mistakes happen in all aspects of medicine and it's terrible. But it is exceptionally rare and we learn from them.
"the morbidly curious are more psychologically resilient during the pandemic" I have never been called psychologically resilient, ever, in my life
Not sure how we should take that though. Does kinda have a good ring to it. Kinda liking it though 🤪🙄🤔🤗🤭
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You are truly amazing.Great personality so informative
If a body came back alive, I would refund that family’s money. So many professionals failed them and they didn’t do their due diligence, not even after the family shared their concerns. The paramedics cut corners and it’s terrifying to think it might not be the first time.
More like store credit.
We'll catch you later!
I would hope that no one was charged for funeral services in this case considering that you usually don’t pay ahead of time for those sorts of things in my experience
@@freemandiaz5123 lmao 😂
What are you talking about? They didn't pay for anything. They didn't have a funeral so they don't owe the funeral home anything. Calm down
I mean even if someone was dead and turned back to life it’s really not their fault
This shows a very serious issue yet again. You mentioned it, even medical professionals treat patients with conditions such as cerebral palsy like they can be written off. Sad reality.
@Matthew Chenault I don't live in the US. The problem is international. I have seen it in Eastern Europe, Western Europe and in the US. It's personal observations during Erasmus exchanges, and talking to friends.
@Matthew Chenault Also, I think saying "oh, it's Detroit" says a lot about you and your views.
@Matthew Chenault her godmother was a nurse, her opinion was ignored. Cerebral palsy is caused by a virus which affects the "pyramidal tracts" in the spinal cord. The brain remains functioning but different vegetative functions and motor functions are affected. With care the patients can survive to 30+ years, unless very severe and in need of machine support.
Usually, people with irreversible conditions are treated with less precision and care, or with apathy and annoyance. Including by some well trained medical practitioners.
Mismanagement, poor judgment and prejudice I guess.
I think your channel and yourself are wonderful and informative
Awn CATlin, you are awseome. Love all the explanations and facts. You are such a 💎