Try going straight with full amps and wire speed , hold the puddle aiming slightly at the bottom plate , it might seem counter intuitive but the weld will be almost exactly like a triangle
Lol while the welder hear doesn’t demonstrate the best technique altering your torch angle from the base material to the vertical material will ensure a better weld every time.
But no circles It's an up down with forward and back movement Half circles like but in a dynamic move Than ur electricity strongness and the gas must be in a flow Sorry I'm not fluently, English speaking
@@paddyriemer8941 been welding over a decade. There’s times when it’s useful and there’s a hand full of different techniques you can use along with your voltage and wire speed. In this video they were way too hot and fast.
@@Apache1994 U right I'm a welder too Come around and have to use all types mag/mig, tig, and stick It's so much deeper than the most people think Have a nice nye!
I was literally gonna say that ! Think of the crescent moon ! Or turn that thang up and run a straight bead ! They won’t know till they start working on thin metal and burn right through 😂💀
Then youd know there is nothing wrong with oscillation… and thats all there is with this. Some people prefer to write in cursive others regular. Its all personal preference and hasnt been proven wrong at all…. You guys just heard from some old ass dude this is the way. It doesnt always have to be that way. And its been proven. Theres so many videos out there where they test oscillation an weaves comparable to stringers. Or uphill vs downhill. You guys got to get over that shit
Manipulación of the puddle or no manipulation, aslong as you get those settings dialed in to a crisp, do as you feel comfortable and make sure the edges are tying in well. Just keep a steady angle and please practice a dry run or two before striking the arc. Contact to work distance is real important. Should be about half inch to 3/4 from the nozzle to the base material. From my few years of fails and troubles. We learn everyday. But it is able to be mastered guys. Just keep on welding and practicing. Make sure things are visibly clear please. Shouldn’t have to shove your welding helmet up in there. If anything get those cheater lens to attach to the inside of your lens right on top of your lens cover. Y’all be safe.
Welding thick material is so much easier than thin. I'm always worrying about blowing through and never have the chance to stack dimes, just stitch or run fast stringers. Of course there are other concerns, such as penetration and porosity, but for the at home guy,... the thinner, the tougher!
This is why we go through so many welders at the shop I work at lol. They come in and leave welds like this that look good but are structurally at risk because of all the movement during the welding process. Then they think they are amazing at welding even tho they just learned last weekend with a bottle of Jaeger and a CZcams account and they won't listen to any advice on how to leave a better weld so they have to be let go.
Yea, thats why u make test if u weld something that need to hold like u say ,and than u know the diference when u make movement and just push for best weld , buth there are 3 tipes of quality , and u dont need every time to weld best 😃
@@stevenbaca3470 it's not so much about not having experience as it is not being able to take criticism and advice on how to change things. Most shops prefer hiring someone with little to no experience because A. They require less pay. And B. They can teach them to do things their way.
@@diecastgoblinyeah thats fine for low spec work. Once you get into higher spec and working to code specifics then weld tests are a mandatory thing for insurances
Такой способ сварки даёт возможность сделать сварной шов полноценным, равномерным, для новичков самое то, и бонусом идёт то что когда потребуется сварить катет больше этот способ поможет ему в этом.
@@user-kh6ty1um7e на завод пусть устроится, поработает с толстым металлом и тогда будет раздавать советы хотя это последнее дело) а так да, я когда не умел варить мне поставили на другую позицию литье приварить а там катет 12 а я в душе не знаю как его туда положить варил как обычно получился колбасой, когда пришла ОТК я очень многое о себе узнал 🤣 потом поспрашиваю местных работяга подсказали как и Че куда делать)
If welded correctly it don’t matter how it’s laid down 😌 but you shouldn’t be going that crazy with it slow down and do the same idea turn the heat up and find the spray arc also preheating the plate and or grinding the mill scale off would have been the best starting point
On heavy members like that pump up the welder to warp-factor 9 and spray it what wire you have there? 1.2mm(3/64" for muricans) go 28v 10-12m wire(4-500") 6mm fillet like a robot😅😅😅 or even 8mm single run if you whip it
@@timtarran8124 Exactly!! Quick, properly penetrated. I spray almost everything, even "thinner stuff" (6mm+) pushing the weld, no circles, no zigzag, no flipflop😂 aiming ever so slightly on the bottom plate to avoid undercut let the spray action push it up to the vertical plate.
Guys. Almost 90% of short circuit mig welders do circles or more accurately "half circles." The world isnt falling apart because some people are bad at them. You keep the pattern tucked in the root of the joint, and keep yourself to the leading edge of that puddle, you get good penetration along the root and legs. This weld isnt even awful. Lets leave the policing of techniques to the WPS of the job. If their workplace accepts this, then clearly its within specification for the job
Try and move the shroud a little further.away and you will get a bigger fillet weld for that size plate keep going doing well for a beginner have fun take care cheers
It actually looked like that might’ve been a little high to me. The texture of the puddle rippling like that tells me the gas is so high it’s blowing the puddle around while it’s liquid. Edit: they’re also running very hot with a lot of wire being fed. That appears to be RMD or short circuit which is not ideal for that much material being deposited that quickly.
Ese tipo de espesores no se suelda haciendo círculos . Se suelda en linea recta a la raíz en sentido de la aportación . Lo ideal , Hilo de 1,2 a unos 230 amperios en alta frecuencia . Con C15 .
Give up the circles. Just push it along in a straight movement with a 10° angle, keeping the wire in the front 1/4 of the puddle. Its a downhand fillet, thats all. And if theres any sort of quality required, clean the mill scale off the plate first👍
When I worked at Howard industries welding I have burned a roll an a half of 45 lb rolls of 035 in an 8 hr day the production numbers had been bumped up a whole lot due to several tornadoes and hurricanes over the past year before then
I like to pull and I always do cicles makes a beautiful weld , I run pretty hot. I mostly stick , pipe downhill , but spent a lot of time In a fab shop ,spray arc . Everyone wants to run hot but you will and warn that base plate
Good stuff do whatever works at your work place is all i say.. Give Triangles a try too though probably like the results as well or half 🌙 moons push in on your weld puddle from bottom to top can even walk your cup with half moons v 18/20 speed 220/240 depends on you..
The penetraition is probably shit. Considering the material thickness.Crank your machine up to get in spray transfer mode. Then push a staight bead. Short circuit is for thin Material and some uphill welding only.
No circles . I found better results doing a Lamborghini pattern . Sometimes, cat shapes help. If I feel lazy, I just do a straight weld and it gets passed hope this helps.
It's not a stick welder listen to how much the arc is trying to adjust to the unnecessary motion... Keep it smooth only forward motion... No side to side no reverse 😞
My first teacher i had a field day with me fabed 3 beams together and then found out I was pulling the weld instead of pushing it we all start somewhere don’t refab and redo and def don’t become a grinder lol become a welder make sure your keeping that 1/4 inch weld size and your good to go
In a scenario like that, practice keeping your torch angle and contact distance steady. Straight line and watch your puddle. You can very slightly go up and down to help the puddle wet out but different scenarios call for different methods. Good looking stuff for a beginner tho. Great fucking welder in the making.
I been welding for 25 years, I do like to pause n go pause n go with trigger always on as it builds a nicer looking thicker weld 🤷🏻♂️but I’m mostly only welding thin material
Kardeşim yanlış yapıyorsun torcu sağdan sola doğru çekmelisin 45 derece açı vermelisin kaynattım diye o yuvarlağı yaparken tamam mı u'yu yaparken görmen lazım
I don't know the application, but GMAW mig wire is not a pre qualified electrode for any structural application per AWS D1.1 With that thickness of plate, I'd run FCAW dualshield 1/16" wire.
Never start welding and try to make waves in your puddle try to just pusch the burner at a constant speed and angle you can try making vaves later but first start with the basic
No circles required. Just keep it straight and slow.
It honestly doesn’t matter
@@Sevenfifty8it does this would fail testing. youve taken heat away from the root
@@johnathonmontgomery3377you run with that 😅
@@pfauniversal1890 are you a yank
Are you an equestrian?
Finally a welding video that doesn't have a condescending title or a wagging finger followed by an amazingly bad tack weld.
thats racist!
И то,что в этом видео это бред
@@febzey445?
Try going straight with full amps and wire speed , hold the puddle aiming slightly at the bottom plate , it might seem counter intuitive but the weld will be almost exactly like a triangle
Great tip. The arc and gas i believe will push the puddle upwards a bit to distribute the weld evenly. Just hold a steady angle.
Basically exactly what I do
Don't do circles just go straight it gives you better results
Lol while the welder hear doesn’t demonstrate the best technique altering your torch angle from the base material to the vertical material will ensure a better weld every time.
But no circles
It's an up down with forward and back movement
Half circles like but in a dynamic move
Than ur electricity strongness and the gas must be in a flow
Sorry I'm not fluently, English speaking
@@paddyriemer8941 been welding over a decade. There’s times when it’s useful and there’s a hand full of different techniques you can use along with your voltage and wire speed. In this video they were way too hot and fast.
@@Apache1994
U right
I'm a welder too
Come around and have to use all types mag/mig, tig, and stick
It's so much deeper than the most people think
Have a nice nye!
Just roll the barrel
Just push it! No circles! No half circles no weaves! Teach them right from the start.
I was literally gonna say that ! Think of the crescent moon ! Or turn that thang up and run a straight bead ! They won’t know till they start working on thin metal and burn right through 😂💀
Then youd know there is nothing wrong with oscillation… and thats all there is with this. Some people prefer to write in cursive others regular. Its all personal preference and hasnt been proven wrong at all…. You guys just heard from some old ass dude this is the way. It doesnt always have to be that way. And its been proven. Theres so many videos out there where they test oscillation an weaves comparable to stringers. Or uphill vs downhill. You guys got to get over that shit
@@justok9568lmao downhill definitely does not penetrate on that thick of Material
@justok9568 totally agree with your comment, I could be mistaken but seems to be travelling a wee bit too slow
@@justok9568you're not wrong but uphill vs downhill does make a difference in penetration lmao
Looks good however take advantage of material around the piece, perfect shelf for you to prop your hand and put a smooth and consistent straight pass
Я уже на слух определил что маловато напруги для такой толщины , прибавить надо
Уснуть можно с такой скоростью
Хотя бы 240 ампер, я такой металл свариваю на 260А
@AlexanderKostenko636 29.8v and spray arc. I do crank it up to 32v if I'm rushing though. The sets screaming 😂😂
I'd be at 32-34 volts, not too much wire and have a constant straight steady push
Ребята вы от куда такие он делает правильно это называется сплавление кромок, единственное можно наоборот убавить амперы металл горит.
Tem que colocar mais um pouco de armar aí ...👏👏🧑🏭💥
It’s actually doesn’t matter if you circle or not in this instance, it’s more to help you keep pace if anything.
Manipulación of the puddle or no manipulation, aslong as you get those settings dialed in to a crisp, do as you feel comfortable and make sure the edges are tying in well. Just keep a steady angle and please practice a dry run or two before striking the arc. Contact to work distance is real important. Should be about half inch to 3/4 from the nozzle to the base material. From my few years of fails and troubles. We learn everyday. But it is able to be mastered guys. Just keep on welding and practicing. Make sure things are visibly clear please. Shouldn’t have to shove your welding helmet up in there. If anything get those cheater lens to attach to the inside of your lens right on top of your lens cover. Y’all be safe.
Wow I'm in a welding rotation and really want to learn how to mig weld
La mejor oscilación es para adelante y para atras !! Salen los mejores filetes
muchas gracias amigo🎉🎉🎉
It's 😍 Amazing
Straight line, no circles and use spray for that thickness.
Welding thick material is so much easier than thin. I'm always worrying about blowing through and never have the chance to stack dimes, just stitch or run fast stringers. Of course there are other concerns, such as penetration and porosity, but for the at home guy,... the thinner, the tougher!
Isso é agradável de ver!! 🇧🇷👏👏
Für Auge sieht das gut aus. Ich ziehe das langsam nach vorne dann ist das ganzes glatt und Prüfung passt.
looks good. I'm learning myself right now. feels good when you lay down a nice one!
This is why we go through so many welders at the shop I work at lol. They come in and leave welds like this that look good but are structurally at risk because of all the movement during the welding process. Then they think they are amazing at welding even tho they just learned last weekend with a bottle of Jaeger and a CZcams account and they won't listen to any advice on how to leave a better weld so they have to be let go.
Yea, thats why u make test if u weld something that need to hold like u say ,and than u know the diference when u make movement and just push for best weld , buth there are 3 tipes of quality , and u dont need every time to weld best 😃
Shop hires welders with no experience…. There’s your sign…….
@@stevenbaca3470 it's not so much about not having experience as it is not being able to take criticism and advice on how to change things. Most shops prefer hiring someone with little to no experience because A. They require less pay. And B. They can teach them to do things their way.
@@diecastgoblinyeah thats fine for low spec work. Once you get into higher spec and working to code specifics then weld tests are a mandatory thing for insurances
Такой способ сварки даёт возможность сделать сварной шов полноценным, равномерным, для новичков самое то, и бонусом идёт то что когда потребуется сварить катет больше этот способ поможет ему в этом.
Simplemente apoyate bien y avance lento y progresivo
Q nivel !!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
That tie-in was clean
Literally how I taught myself
Не нужно ничего дергать , держишь горелку под углом без движений и наполняешь шов не спеша
Это тебе не электрод... Полуавтоматом вариаций как варить намного больше, если вы так не пробовали значит не о чем спорить даже не стану.
Это когда катет не больше 5 мм.
@@user-kh6ty1um7e на завод пусть устроится, поработает с толстым металлом и тогда будет раздавать советы хотя это последнее дело) а так да, я когда не умел варить мне поставили на другую позицию литье приварить а там катет 12 а я в душе не знаю как его туда положить варил как обычно получился колбасой, когда пришла ОТК я очень многое о себе узнал 🤣 потом поспрашиваю местных работяга подсказали как и Че куда делать)
If welded correctly it don’t matter how it’s laid down 😌 but you shouldn’t be going that crazy with it slow down and do the same idea turn the heat up and find the spray arc also preheating the plate and or grinding the mill scale off would have been the best starting point
On heavy members like that pump up the welder to warp-factor 9 and spray it what wire you have there? 1.2mm(3/64" for muricans) go 28v 10-12m wire(4-500") 6mm fillet like a robot😅😅😅 or even 8mm single run if you whip it
My thoughts to spray is the way
@@timtarran8124 Exactly!! Quick, properly penetrated. I spray almost everything, even "thinner stuff" (6mm+) pushing the weld, no circles, no zigzag, no flipflop😂 aiming ever so slightly on the bottom plate to avoid undercut let the spray action push it up to the vertical plate.
Guys. Almost 90% of short circuit mig welders do circles or more accurately "half circles." The world isnt falling apart because some people are bad at them. You keep the pattern tucked in the root of the joint, and keep yourself to the leading edge of that puddle, you get good penetration along the root and legs.
This weld isnt even awful. Lets leave the policing of techniques to the WPS of the job. If their workplace accepts this, then clearly its within specification for the job
I just pushed it, great for fab tacks
Try and move the shroud a little further.away and you will get a bigger fillet weld for that size plate keep going doing well for a beginner have fun take care cheers
Hàn ko đủ điện áp và ko cần cầu kỳ đi vòng như vậy . Lên đi thẳng mối hàn và chậm lại
Turn your gas up I saw 2 bug holes in that weld
U saw the “bubles”
That was the silica i think. Looked like pin hole too though but mostly silica.
It actually looked like that might’ve been a little high to me. The texture of the puddle rippling like that tells me the gas is so high it’s blowing the puddle around while it’s liquid.
Edit: they’re also running very hot with a lot of wire being fed. That appears to be RMD or short circuit which is not ideal for that much material being deposited that quickly.
Maybe you should understand that too high a gas flow can cause porosity too by causing turbulance
No son poros
Cordão totalmente sem padrão.
It looks solid to me, I was taught to use the circles technique early on. Only thing I would change is add about 10° of push angle.
Ese tipo de espesores no se suelda haciendo círculos .
Se suelda en linea recta a la raíz en sentido de la aportación .
Lo ideal , Hilo de 1,2 a unos 230 amperios en alta frecuencia .
Con C15 .
Si pero a mi me funcionca tambien en circulos si Lo haces bien
Give up the circles.
Just push it along in a straight movement with a 10° angle, keeping the wire in the front 1/4 of the puddle. Its a downhand fillet, thats all.
And if theres any sort of quality required, clean the mill scale off the plate first👍
Never had issues my self been welding for 12 years no problem on penatration
When I worked at Howard industries welding I have burned a roll an a half of 45 lb rolls of 035 in an 8 hr day the production numbers had been bumped up a whole lot due to several tornadoes and hurricanes over the past year before then
Tambien muestra en amperaje y la velocidad del alambre
Ottima manualità 😊
Looks better then I thought 😅🤣
No need for the circles bro.
Essa regulagem aí fora da amperagem não sei que e mas ficou boa
For beginners better start with half moon movements up down in a backwards C movement
That's what I did
Circles Deff make the bead look nicer in mig imo
💯💯💯👍🏼awesome
Yeah if its pulse straight but dc circles would be good 👍. Also you kinda got a little impatient at the end, good job all around tho 🤙
I feel like with steel that heavy you should be using dual shield instead of solid wire MIG.
Run fillet welds your hot enough 22 volts to 24 volts fine tune wire speed off to the races
Either way for a beginner that looks decent
I like to pull and I always do cicles makes a beautiful weld , I run pretty hot. I mostly stick , pipe downhill , but spent a lot of time In a fab shop ,spray arc . Everyone wants to run hot but you will and warn that base plate
Need 10 amps and a bit more gasmixture. But its ok for a beginner .
Omg🎉🎉
Good stuff do whatever works at your work place is all i say..
Give Triangles a try too though probably like the results as well or half 🌙 moons push in on your weld puddle from bottom to top can even walk your cup with half moons
v 18/20 speed 220/240 depends on you..
Thanks for the tips! 😎
Amazing 😮
The penetraition is probably shit. Considering the material thickness.Crank your machine up to get in spray transfer mode. Then push a staight bead. Short circuit is for thin Material and some uphill welding only.
No circles .
I found better results doing a Lamborghini pattern . Sometimes, cat shapes help. If I feel lazy, I just do a straight weld and it gets passed hope this helps.
smaller circles, when you ocilate the movement should be almost unnoticeable
It's not a stick welder listen to how much the arc is trying to adjust to the unnecessary motion... Keep it smooth only forward motion... No side to side no reverse 😞
I was never good at mig or Tig but oxy and arc I killed the shit out of it.
Don't need circles just drag it straight and steady
My first teacher i had a field day with me fabed 3 beams together and then found out I was pulling the weld instead of pushing it we all start somewhere don’t refab and redo and def don’t become a grinder lol become a welder make sure your keeping that 1/4 inch weld size and your good to go
All the no circle comments; circles are ok in order to catch attach the sides, nip the sides.
Pero no hay penetración. Solo está encima.
Not if u got the machine set up as high as on the video!
If that's short circuit mig that will have no penetration very weak, can't hear it good, either way need half a volt and touch more wire speed.
What's the circles achieve you get
A nicer weld just going straight and slow
In a scenario like that, practice keeping your torch angle and contact distance steady. Straight line and watch your puddle. You can very slightly go up and down to help the puddle wet out but different scenarios call for different methods. Good looking stuff for a beginner tho. Great fucking welder in the making.
Stacking dimes like that is just getting slag trapped into the weld it’ll most likely fail a bend test looks sick tho
There no slag wtf you talking about
Does anyone ever just appreciate other welds in welding vid comments??💀
appreciate garbage? yes very nice weld yes
@@Jonas-jo2mibi you definitely don’t weld if this is just garbage how about support new welders 😂😂 waste of space is all you are with this toxicity
If its good we will. Its not.
there's nothing to appreciate here.
Yes. If it was done good and proper. This beginner needs advice. No circles.
why do we have no backhand inclination?
i am a certified guitar player 15 years experience
pull cursive e left to right is bis
I been welding for 25 years, I do like to pause n go pause n go with trigger always on as it builds a nicer looking thicker weld 🤷🏻♂️but I’m mostly only welding thin material
Забавно читать этих экспертов которые говорят просто веди. Вы попробуйте просто ведя сделать катет 12 и более мм.
That's why you do a multipass haha wevings for amatures
Is that really a Beginner?
You can get the bead effect with a slow step also. Let it burn in there
Bravo 👌🏻
I go back and forth rather than in circles or just straight. Keeps your puddle going.
Bevel it and lower your voltage if you really wanted to do it right. And where I'm from anything but a straight pass is a fail.
Make a rootpass even too little,so that the paint will destroy.to avoid the hole.
I prefer the forward and backward movement on the root
.045 hardwire splatter is unreal lol !!
For that thickness of material I would just turn the juice up and go for it 😊
Beautiful
Вот так вот делать не надо 1 подачку уменьши, 2 варят полу месяцом или 8 не надо ее там по кругу крутить3 и варюсь стык в стык что бы замков не было
Arriba abajo seria lo correcto para que pegue la pieza de trabajo recto tambien eta bien
Little more heat and a straight push and you’ll be on the straight and narrow to a raise
Kardeşim yanlış yapıyorsun torcu sağdan sola doğru çekmelisin 45 derece açı vermelisin kaynattım diye o yuvarlağı yaparken tamam mı u'yu yaparken görmen lazım
dùng cách nào cũng được quan trọng nhất vẫn là kiểm soát dòng chảy
So soothing
I don't know the application, but GMAW mig wire is not a pre qualified electrode for any structural application per AWS D1.1
With that thickness of plate, I'd run FCAW dualshield 1/16" wire.
1/16" wire? Holy, that would be like 350+ amps, and way too fast of travel speed for a beginner, this looks like a welding school.
❤❤❤❤❤❤بسیار عالی
Never start welding and try to make waves in your puddle try to just pusch the burner at a constant speed and angle you can try making vaves later but first start with the basic
Tig 😎
What is Mag? Is it Mig with an extra gas?
Muito bom
Slow down on the top of the circles to let the dimes overlap
Circle technique makes it look nice but has no strength
Crank the heat and speed up a little then as everyone else said, no circles
I agree with the comments no manipulation just run em straight and smooth.
Я держу дугу на нижнем металле и просто веду. 👍
И весь металл скатывается? 😅😅😅