What If MAJIN VEGETA Didn't Knock Out GOKU? - Super Gogeta vs Buu | Dragon Ball Z
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- What If Majin Vegeta didn't knock out Goku in the Buu Saga?
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The Goku and Vegeta rematch in Dragon Ball Z was one of the most memorable fights in the Dragon Ball Z anime. I say the anime since it wasn’t much of a fight in the manga and more so acted as a side piece to the actual plot. However, that doesn’t change the impact this fight had on the plot of the Majin Buu Arc. The fight itself is what fueled Buu’s resurrection, which also led to Vegeta’s death. However, that death was entirely avoidable. Very simply, Vegeta made a mistake when he knocked out Goku. That does leave us with a question though. What would have happened had Vegeta worked together with Goku like he suggested? What if Majin Vegeta and Goku worked together to defeat Majin Buu?
After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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I'm but a simple fan. I see Gogeta, I click and hit like without asking any questions...
Same
So if there is a video named Gogeta sucks, would you still like it ? :p
Majin gogeta
You could say hes a real go get a -snickers in dad joke-
@@kaichiku6335 I probably would just because I would see Gogeta first. Then I would realize what it would actually say and take back my like 😂
Gohan: *Possibly Dies*
Goku: First Time?
Krillin has entered the chat…
@@heydude3770 no krillin did die
I wondered for another what if, what if Vegeta actually stopped being a warrior after the cell saga like he said. I tried to look for a video and nobody has seemed to go over this. If you find one please send me a link, I’m very interested in how that would effect the other sagas
czcams.com/video/aGzwjO-4wHU/video.html
hmm
i know you asked what if, but think about it; it’s an iron man situation where he just cant stop training
hes spent his life doing it - so, although he tried, he eventually took it up, even if its just to protect his family
thetropicalace Thanks!
@@meanelephant3766 Sure thing.
Reezona Fleeza that is true, I never thought about why he went back when I was looking for a what if, this is also probably why there aren’t many except the one showed above
Majin Vegeta: “Oh? You’re approaching me?
Goku: “I can’t fuse with you without getting any closer...”
0:01
Then come as you want...
Lmao why is this so funny to me?
@@rainer999
“Shin Ki Ko-how’re you doing?”
@@invincible4u *PERFECT.*
Goku:"So its the same type of form as super saiyan 3."
I'm neither goku nor majin vegeta! I am Majin Gogeta! Its over Buu! I've come for you!
Maximum Anime Said vegito 😂
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price Gogeta is lame?
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price Who you like more?
Filthy acts at a reasonable price ya. I’m underAted
Maximum Anime who needs gogeta when you have vegito
The only issue is the "shared knowledge" bit. When Goten and Trunks were asked how they felt being fused, they said they had no idea - they couldn't remember. Gotenks/Vegito/Gogeta DO possess the shared knowledge of the people they are fused from, but the people who fused don't take the Fusion's memory with them.
Unless this has since been retconned.
Vegeta only learned Perfected Super Saiyan Blue because he fused with goku
Wait really. I always assumed they both got the memories of Gogeta/Vegito after the time limit/was retconned.
The dragon balls could probably remove the majin mark, though
Either that or kill babidi
@@justsomeguywithaplan971 stop being cringe
@@Lineproof to be fair I completely forgot about this exchange
@@Lineproof what did he said?
@@Kirukilmao some questions are best left unanswered
What if Goku, and Vegeta liked fusion, and were always willing to fuse?
Then they will win every fight they're in
@@KuramaGeometryDash true
jiren would get bodied by either vegito or gogeta
In addition to always being equipped with the Potara earrings.
@@devilfromhell8546 blue
What if vegeta killed semi-perfect cell? I would like to know your opinion about it
Vegetas pride would be restored and gohan didn't break his spirit trunks returns early king Kai would be alive android 17 and Android 18 would probably ngpp
Mistyped last word sorry what i mean is that android 18 would not be as bond with krillin
SPOOKY 3D just edit the comment
@@christopherfox7987 he cant , he's from Serbia
The broly movie would happen
One thing which did change was. Goten and Trunks aren't as reliant on fusion anymore, which presents a chance that they would work on themselves individually and would become waay stronger than they are in the current canon. And the fusion will also not give them a bloated ego into their individual characteristics which will Allow them to progress quicker in their training. This would open up possibilities of goku and vegeta actually taking interest in training their kids and making them stronger. Which would give a chance for them to attain god ki and other amazing powers.
Remember goku said that he coulda kill boo in ssj 3 but wanted to give goten and trunks the oportunitty to solve a problem
@jocaguz18 yea cause he didnt go ssj 3 get your head outta your ass
@Adrian Valladares
na it's because he wasn't sure if he could beat buu in time before he has to go to the afterlife
note that ssj3 speeds up time left on earth fast
“Uhm actually it’s buu 🤓🤓🤓”
Thank you for being one of the only Dragon Ball content creator who does not spoil the manga stuff in your videos.
Bro, you should turn these into a podcast. You already do all the work all you need to do is upload the audio. I think this would go crazy on Spotify.
Same
@@froggylord655 Same
If memories and knowledge are shared during fusion (which makes sense to me, though Toriyama might've not accounted for this), why doesn't Vegeta learn of Kaioken, what it does, and master it for himself? I honestly could see him at least trying Kaioken in the ToP if this were the case.
He probably doesn't want to copy Goku either because he wanted to evolve his own way or he is too prideful.
Exactly what Daniel said Vegeta REALLY had to bite his tongue to attempt his yardrat training. Plus I don’t think he’d care for such a “nearly useless” (in his eyes) technique.
Maybe hed feel like its a handicap, or that he doesnt want to use the same moves as that brute kakarot, same thing can be asked about the solar flair
Plus he is defeated by Goku because of that technique so he probably hate that technique a lot.
@Vegeta you're defeated by GOKU's spirit bomb
What if vegeta trained cabba after universe 6 vs7 arc. Imagine how things could change like a possible early introduction to caulifa and kale or vegeta visiting planet sadala.
How about a scenario where Vegeta and cabba must fusion dance.
What If Cabba already knew about Super Saiyan and Instead of teaching him how to transform he teaches him the principals of God Ki, so that next time Cabba could show his power as a Super Saiyan God In ToP?
What if Gohan confronted Mr. Satan for lying about killing Cell after the Cell game
No no no!! They can remove vegeta's mark,they just have to kill babidi!!
Haha no more evil M
The "M" doesn't just mean "Majin" it means "Mistake"
It was M for 'Mini' when he should've flipped it to W for 'Wumbo'
@Ethan Schultz I wumbo, you wumbo, we wumbo
@@ethanschultz2074He? She? Me? Wumbo??
@@jakeschmidt395eyyy Lythero reference
Vegeta should have got the memory of what Goku did to Bulma when she was sleeping in Dragon Ball😏
Oh... I remember that. Let's just not mention that for now.
"kids gon die tonight!"
@@vibinfrog8038 +Shin Malphur himself you forgot vegeto. same as that form
Goku is ALWAYS ahead of Vegeta in every way
Amazingly done! I enjoyed it a lot!
i thought the title was "what if majin vegeta knocked goku out"
and thought he would force-fuse with him to kill buu lmfao
I can't wait for a thumbnail update for this one.
I don't know why but...Did you get the slap chop AD or is it just me?!🕵️♂️😲🤯
I’m hyped, Carthu, I love your vid dude
Definitely one of my favorite channels for what if’s
Great videos can't wait till more come out
Finnaly uploaded
The audio quality is amazing.
What if Goku use diffusion technique Cell games
He gets 100k he would do it
That's a nice what if dude :D very interesting
Mogely?
Carthu deserves 200k subs his videos are entertaining
I think theirs still some stuff to discuss here. Gohan has his ultimate form and I'm sure Goku would want to spar with him to try it out.
As for the kids since all of the crazy buu stuff got wrapped up I can see them getting their training doubled down on especially with Goku and Goten. I think Gohan would suggest that they go into the time chamber to make up for lost time and train. This way Goten gets stronger and maybe learns some new techniques
Also. Vegeta wouldnt want to have a mark on his head for the rest of his life. He is a saiyan and has saiyan pride. A prince wouldn’t want a mark of slavery on his head for eternity so he would look for something to change that
I see a genuine brotherly bond between Goku and Vegeta.
It's weird that Goku only had one Senzu because Vegeta says "Get out your Senzu beans. *We* should be at full power if we are to face that monster." Which heavily implies Goku had two.
They share knowledge right so they know about each others night time training.
You should do "what if Gohan turned super Saiyan while fighting frieza?". The way this would work would be this: Gohan, krillin, and Vegeta on namek are fighting frieza after he transforms into his second form, then piccolo arrives. The fight with frieza and piccolo go smoothly and nothing has changed from the original, until frieza transforms again. This time frieza actually KILLS piccolo instead of just shooting him, and this enrages Gohan. This enrages Gohan so much to the point where it makes Gohan explode with anger. And this is what triggers Gohan's super Saiyan transformation.
Man I love your story just which it could be animated or a monga
I have an idea, what if Gohan wanted to be a fighter instead of a scholar?
vegeta should get a tatto that match his skintone to cover the M
I was in the live and saw the recommendation 😂😂
this what if video is way better then the one that I watched right before it
Why don't you continue the story of carthu of Universe 6 because it's earth has been resurrected
By the way great story
Happy to see an awesome Dragon Ball what if
HEY Carthu,I Have A Recommendation for Next video what happen if Frieza Turn Gold when he was in android Saga
Basically, everyone dies
This was a brilliant talk, it would had been different, could you do what if Goku got super saiyan rose instead of super saiyan blue
this dude is soooooo underrated
No
Things are different from the original timeline; we don't have Freeza get pummeled by Broly for a hour straight! D:
Majin Gogeta...what raging blast could do but was too lazy
Guilherme Correa what the hell did you just say
@@FrancisOno777 what if stories in raging blast 1 or 2 i dont remember
@@guilhermecorrea2028 at least we got ssj3 vegeta. I'd rather have that that gogeta with an m on his forehead
I mean he could just cut off the 'M'
Or he could wish it off
@@sparrowblack841 the m was encrypted into his head i5s not just a drawing
This would be a good fight between them but the m on hes forehead would be destricting
What happened to video and pan in the future? (Obviously pan would be alive cuz she's alive in 100 years)
I Can See That Happen In A Different Universe Also I It Be Interesting See A Conversation Between Bulma And Majin vegeta
@Carthu's Dojo,
What if Kid Buu destroyed Other World (and maybe also King Yemma's area), before arriving on Supreme Kai's planet ?
10:25 Why is Trunks holding the Z-Sword?
Future trunks timeline
I would love a vegeta that keeps the M on his head
You tripping lol the M would be useless after vegeta surpasses himself
The M disappears after babidi dies.
Cool!
Can you do part 2
When is part 2 of what if broly was sent to beerus planet
Nice
What if frieza refused to play in the tournament if power
Wouldn't Hercule go off to fight Buu anyways? He wasn't really effected by anything the Z-fighters did in the original timeline.
At boring, he just gets killed by Buu & Babidi and is revived in a year when both sets of dragon balls restore their power
At best, he gives Buu the idea that he shouldn't listen to Babidi only deepening the two's connection
At worst, when he does get Buu to be friends with him, Babidi kills Hercule to get Buu to listen to him, Buu unleashes Evil Buu, the two create Super Buu, Super buu eats Babidi giving Buu extra magical power & the ability to control Vegeta as Super Buu at this point would be much stronger than Vegeta. Thus limiting the two from fusing. And leading to a much darker timeline.
pikagammerplus pizza But you forgot about Ultimate Gohan.......
@@aeroz6228 Did Ultimate Gohan have some impact on Hercule going to meet Buu?
@@pikagammerpluspizza7478 No but when he inevitably shows up (which he wouldn't, Super Buu would've destroyed the planet long before then as his only reason to keep the planet around was Goku's promise of a strong warrior) he'll kill Buu.
@@jamainegardner4193 why wouldn't Goku give his promise just referring to Gogeta?
@@pikagammerpluspizza7478 at the time buu hadn't done much aside from supposedly killing Gohan.
@Carthus Dojo,
What happens in the Gt version of this What If ?
Could you do what if the warrior namekians trained
10:49 There's no information or evidence anywhere suggesting that the fusion dance can last longer with the same strength than the potara fusion. We don't know how long Gogeta vs Broly or Vegito vs Zamasu both lasted other than the fact that the Vegito fight was under an hour and Gogeta's was under 30 minutes. Screen time isn't a good argument either because it's incredibly inconsistent in DB and even if it was they both had about the same screen time. The Zamasu fight would have ended the same except the fight would have been a little less one sided.
I think the fight between Vegito and Zamasu would be different because Goku and Vegeta would probably use both fusions against him back to back and a Final Kamehameha, Big Bang Kamehameha or Stardust Breaker would have a similar effect to Trunks's Spirit Sword. Either that or Vegeta would remember the seal for the Mafuba because he'd have shared a mind with Goku. Gogeta or Vegito could easily beat the living hell out of Zamasu and trap him in the container. He'd still be immortal but he couldn't escape so Goku would probably take it to Beerus and Whis, who'd probably take it to the Grand Priest and Zeno would eventually erase Zamasu with ease. There'd be no changes to Trunks's timeline so there'd be only one Zeno in each timeline. The Tournament of Power would happen pretty much the same way except maybe Vegeta and Goku could fuse into Gogeta to defeat Jiren after failing to do so when they attacked tigetger in SSj Blue Kaioh Ken and SSj Blue Evolution forms. SSj Blue Gogeta would be stronger than Jiren but he might have to try hard once Jiren went 100% and the fusion might run out of time, but likely Gogeta would have done a lot of damage and Jiren would be weakened, almost to the point he was when Goku and Frieza pushed him out, but Goku and Vegeta would have more energy, enough to put up a fight with help from Frieza and Android 17 and run the clock. Jiren could eliminate one or two of them but he could not beat them all, so even if time was up and he was still standing, there'd be two people from Goku's team standing as well, therefore they'd win.
Shout out to the Nameks who give Goku and friends an all access pass to their Dragon Balls and being true bros to earth
How come you did not do the intro
#lsavagexil
I realistically see the three types of Dragonballs or Whis at Beerus request removing the Majin mark on Vegeta's forehead.
What mic do you use🔰🔰🔰
@Carthu's Dojo, What if Majin Vegeta had killed Halo Goku?
What if goku and vegeta fused in the tournament of power
Against the rules of the tournament 😂
Kefla?
They used plot armor and it was allowed cause zen-oh liked it
@@IppoMaka kefla fused tho lmao
Goku and vegeta make up
Me: is this Disney or dragon ball
Continue what if goku became a super Saiyan early
Thank! You! So! Much! For! Doing! This! What-if!!!!!! I actually asked Masako X of team four star at his what if round table and he had a technically correct answer but I think it's because I didn't phrase it right and yours here was so much more satisfying considering how much I was actually curious about this!!!!!! You rock Carthu! Please don't ever give up/ quit!!!!
Crazy to think that with no Mr. Buu, they would be screwed against Moro since Supreme Kai likely wouldn't be around to bail them out of their first battle.
I like so much to your video its grate but can you make a video that majin vegeta accidentally kill chichi while killing people in world turnament
What if gohan and goku fussed together in buu saga
.Iu
Simple answer:buu gets destroyed
Eh vegito feels better all around than gokan
Hyourinjutsu has an amazing animation on this
@@jeffrrey6791 Well it was prove if Gohan and Goku fused; Gokhan would be stronger than Vegito.
Has anyone noticed that king kai is dead.
5:46 instantly knew what he was talking about.
Carthu can you do what if yamcha became ui
Majin Gogeta Vs Majin Buu ?
sounds an awesome fight
What-If? I like
April Fools? I don’t like
@Carthu'sdojo did vageta oso see when goku as a kid touch bulma no no Square lol
bro nice what if love from pakistan
If youbwant to see what would've happened if they fused in the tournament of power then hyourinjutsu did an AMAZING animation about it
@Carthu's Dojo,
What if the Frieza Force had arrived in the Power Rangers/Saban Heroes universe, during Pris : Countdown to Destruction ?
What if vegito never diffuses
They have a whole fan manga dedicated to that on here somewhere I promise
When is if future Gohan survived part 4 coming out ?
i love how goku can read minds i wish you see that more in the series
this all seemed really logical
why would it be the same if there's no Good Boo? he wouldnt be there to piss off Beerus which means no need for SSJ God to occur. Beerus would be placated with food and head on back home
Im sure that Beerus would still want to see SSG. That's the reason Beerus went to earth in the first place.
Can u do "What if Goku goes to Beerus's planet instead od Yardrat", I saw that What if already, but narrator was really bad
Yeah GokuT23 is rlyyyyy bad
@@sevensevenseven9351 that I agree with. I tried listening to one of his What If's and couldn't even last 15 minutes through it. He cusses every other word which isn't like Dragon Ball but also his story writing is trash. His wording is repetitive and honestly really annoying. I don't want to listen to three hours of "AnD He DeCkEd ThEm ReAlLy HaRd".
Unknown Saiyan and the if goku was born with ultra instinct thing like dude he would die instantly since complete ultra instinct only lasted like 1 or 2 seconds in the last minute of the ToP and it almost murdered him as an adult
@@str9306 exactly. It takes hard training for years to prepare your body for it. A new born would die from the backlash instantly
Unknown Saiyan right
I don't mind what CZcamsr I am looking, I just click, hit the like and watch
I think the only other change without gotenks is that Ginyu wouldn’t have taken Tagoma’s body
What if master Roshi died in the TOP
9:18 might've been a misinterpretation of meaning here but "Goku says he doesn't have a lot of time", if referring to his final hour being up (and not before Earth is doomed); even if his hour was up and he had to go back...was taken back... he could still be wished back. Death.
Majin Gogeta??
Luis Baez It’s either yes or no because remember Vegeta was dead when they fused into Vegito and Vegito didn’t have a halo
Yeah it really wouldn’t
Wait would they fuse in the top
What if DBS Broly was in GT?
Good
Great idea
Every dbgt villain after Brody changed :We’re fu$&ed
broly is in gt just not discovered
Hello there
Yo carthu you should do what if vegeta found goku on yardrat
Like when he tried to find him after namek
I have but 1 request.
What a cell jr survived?