The Moment Qui-Gon Jinn Became Darth Plagueis’s Greatest FEAR! (Legends)
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The Non-Canon Expert looks at the horrifying final days of Darth Plagueis, where the Dark Lord of the Sith would find himself looking at the conclusions made by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn from a very unique perspective, explaining why Qui-Gon would become his greatest fear during the events of The Phantom Menace.
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I've always said since The Phantom Menace came out 20 years ago, that Qui-Gon Jinn is the epitome of what all Jedi should be.
Ironic considering your username
@@Nebulasecura Darth Maul is my favorite baddie and Qui-Gon Jinn is my favorite good guy in the entire Saga episodes 1-6. So thier even.
@@darthqui-gon5986 true
Agreed Qui Gon saw the truth of the Sith threat behind the scenes and found the chosen one. He served the force not the republic as a true Jedi should
@@aamirrazak3467 exactly!
Yes, Qui-Gon is that peaceful yet disobeying Jedi you know you have to fear.
Apparently even other Jedi Masters like Yoda saw him as more of a Grey Jedi than a fully committed light side Jedi
You mean an Order that has a double Standard? You let the old guy with the tall head have wife’s because of regional views
@@christopherfrost3333 I mean. Mundi was from a species that had an extremely low birthrate. Even in our world some religious orders let certain members have families so that their family line didn't die
Riley Davidson interesting, I didn’t know that.
Qui-Gon is that guy that wandered into a scrapyard looking for parts... and didn't even sense that the little kid helping them was a nexus of force energy, and had higher M levels than Yoda. Anakin literally had to follow them down the street invite them to his home, and then drop about a half dozen hints that he might be force sensitive... before Qui-Gon even suspected anything.
Qui-Gon: possibly the only Jedi Master I respect. If he had lived, he could’ve saved the entire Order and exposed Darth Sidious
Also, Count Dooku would've never turned to the Dark Side.
Wyndell Lee maybe, but I think he still would’ve left because of the Jedi Order’s political corruption
He would have left, but not joined the Dark Side, at least in my opinion.
Isaiah Albers honestly, who would blame him?
@@macwelch8599 The council probably.
Oh that's because Plagueis kidnapped Jinn's daughter while she was on the phone with him...
The things Jinn said afterwards would make even the strongest man quake with fear...
I got that reference!
Lmfao a year late but still hat off to your reference
And I hear by nominate this as best comment on a CZcams video for 2021
And so the Legend goes....
So Qui Gon and plaguies died around the same time they are truly at either ends of the force
Al qui gon fights like a real jedi with calm and precision
@@corradoalamanni179 Actually Qui-Gon's lightsaber fighting style was either similar or the same as Yoda's, with a lot of flips and acrobatic moves and using the force to enhance the body's capabilities, but it was during his older age he couldn't move the same so he instead of learning another fighting style just altered that same acrobatic style to fit how he could move. Haha I bet you couldn't guess how old Qui-Gon was during Episode 1, but it might surprise you! And that's actually the main reason he lost to Darth Maul, just his age making him less capable with his fighting style as well as Qui-Gon getting tired far more quickly than during his youth. In case you wanted me to tell you his age instead of looking it up, Qui-Gon was 60 in Episode 1. Isn't that surprising? But very awesome!
@@BouncinBrandon I was not referring to his combat moves but at how he behaves during the battle in an emotional standpoint
@@BouncinBrandon I disagree look at dooku hes ol jins master and even older
jessica 6d9 The most important part of his comment was about Jins fighting style. Dooku was form 2 which wouldn’t get worse with age, if anything it would get better. As a form that revolves around elegant Sabre combat the wisdom from previous battles only improved his duelling capabilities. Jins style however being mostly acrobatic would get substantially worse with age yet Jin opted to stick with said style.
The sad thing is that Qui Gon Jinn didn't get to defeat Darth Plagueis.
One of the great scenes from the Darth Plagueis novel was when Qui-Gon met Plagueis as his alter-ego Hego Damask. Even then Qui-Gon didn't like him, so it would be pretty amazing to see how he would react if he knew Damask was the Dark Lord who's Order he would eventually help to destroy. Thank you for watching!
Plagueis would triumph in devastating fashion.
It would be an epic long battle between them both with both of them exhausted and critically injured. Qui Gon Jinn is a Top Tiered Jedi Master and Plagueis is a Top Tiered Sith Lord. Yes it is a massive feat that Darth Maul killing Qui Gon Jinn for Darth Maul is a Sith Assassin that is personally trained to kill Jedi and him able to kill a Top Tiered Jedi Master is a massive feat.
@@DeathScepter as much as i like qui gon jinn, i wouldnt call him a top tier jedi, he had skills and capabilities above many of em and his ability to think for himself unlike many jedi of the time truly stands him out too but he would of stood no chance at all against plagueis, if maul defeated him then he would of got beat much sooner and probably much easier to against the reigning dark lord of the sith
@@DeathScepter he had alot of experience yes.. an ONCE was a top tier Master but by his fateful battle on Naboo he was no longer the Master and fighter he once was or he might've absolutely WRECKED Maul. If hed been a few years or a decade earlier Maul would've had little chance.
2 things:
One: the Darth Plagueis novel is one of the best EU books ever.
Two:. There were early scripts where Qui-Gon and Plagueis unwittingly plotted against each other (among other possibilities).
Yo I wanna know what exactly would have happened if he didn't die and train Anakin and so on. Like there would be a lot different than what would have happened during the attack of the clone wars.
@@rudygomez8593 well knowing that Qui-Gon was a maveric jedi master. He would have taught Anakin to use and harness his feelings (as he would be unable to suppress them).He would then act more as a father figure to Anakin tempering his outburst while focusing greatly on his talents. Its often noted that the Jedi Council did much during Anakin's age between 10-15 in hampering his skills, often frustrating the padawan instead of nurturing his talent. The council felt that if they were to develop his strengths/acknowledge them he would grow arrogant (although the reverse happen, his frustration fueled his arrogance). SO Qui-Gon most likely would have personally trained him and gotten Obi-Wan to help when he was not called away on business.
@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Well in the movies Obi-wan was arrogant too in 1-2....and when he fought with Grievous
How did darth maul defeat him and then lose so easily in such a ridiculous manor to a padawan?
@@tori9365 In minimal terms: The Duel between Darth Maul and Qui-gon Jinn with Obi-wan Kenobi lasted for a long time during the Battle of Theed. Darth Maul being a Zabrak (excuse my spelling) and trained from a young age to be a fighter, battling multiple opponents numerous times, was more competent as a fighter due to having my stamina than Qui-gon and more experience than Kenobi. Maul had clashed with Qui-gon on Tatooine and was analyzing his fighting style. Coupled with the fact that Maul's lightsaber form is a poor match for Qui-gon's. Before getting seperated, Kenobi's constant barrage kept up the pressure, preventing Maul from forming a counter offensive. As they progress into the shield hall, the fight between Maul and Jinn became more and more evenly matched. In the final bout he found an opening and took it.
Then we factor in that Jedi with green lightsabers are counselors that focus more on the force than combat and they were in an era of relative peace without many lightsaber battles with sith and especially against saberstaffs.
There are whole videos on CZcams that can explain it better than I if you really want a break down as to why Qui-gon lost to Maul.
Plagueis: I saw a terrifying vision of 2 futures. One will be a black cyborg rising like a reaper of death and the other is my death at the hands of Liam Neeson.
Sidious: Don't you mean Qui-G-
Plaguies: No, I mean Liam Neeson!!!
They really should have left this book canon because it allows the prequels to make more sense and how important both Qui Gon and Anakin really was to those flims
Archie Stanfordgg if you need a book to make a movie trilogy not hot garbage then it was never good to begin with
Qui-Gon will always be my top favorite! And I drop the like for knowing that Plagueis is out there somewhere!
Except he's dead, Sidious killed him
ThatLoneWolfGuy no one stays dead for long, they seem to pop up in some shape or form
Qui gon wasn't the most powerful Jedi he was just the embodiment of what a Jedi should aspire to be. That's what me him a threat he was the exact opposite of a Sith. You could say the Jedi order was slightly corrupted by their rules. Which means they couldn't fully be in the light not to say they weren't in the light. They just weren't using it as attended
Say what you want about the prequels, but they did give us some of the most iconic characters like Qui-Gon, Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Mace Windu, etc.
And What did Disney Trilogy give us? Rose Tico......
Babu frik thou
Kylo ren
All the good characters were really underdeveloped. Probably something to do with them not planning out the whole trilogy
@Ulcerative Colitis Just like most Prequel characters.
@Sand general pryde?
Really, this makes the character of Obi-Wan immensely respectful. He is shouldering a weight he knows he cannot possibly bear, but yet he tries.
I've always loved Qui-Gon, when I 1st saw the Phantom Menace he was my absolute favourite character & he remains 1 of my all time favourites! So I love that this character remains so important within the new cannon 😁 xx
Honestly without Qui Gon, the Phantom Menace would have been such a flop we all would have forgot that it ever existed
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 Darth Maul is by far the biggest charecter out of that movie but ok...
The new canon doesn't matter, friend. He will always be important, just like Luke will always be the Luke Skywalker that's in Episodes 3-6, not the ignorant "fan-fic" depiction that was given to us in The Last Jedi. What you have to realize is what is "canon" doesn't matter, the Legends / Expanded Universe wasn't canon but it still almost entirely fit PERFECTLY into the canon context, and no matter how you try to look at it, Disney's trilogy does NOT fit into the canon context, which sucks because Rogue One is amazing and fits into canon perfectly, but not the Disney trilogy, friend.
If you really care about canon then what you're saying is if Disney decided to remove the Prequels and Original Trilogy from canon and replaced them with a Muppet Special, THAT is what "real Star Wars" is to you just because the owners say so? No, friend. What the owners say doesn't make it fit into The Universe. Many people had problems with the prequels but they could NEVER say it didn't fit into Real Star Wars. But Disney's fan-fiction trilogy doesn't fit into real Star Wars. So there's no need to care about their canon. Just read more EU / Legends stuff:) There's even a time when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as force ghosts spoke to Vader, not appearing physically, but talking to him. The EU is FAR more REAL Star Wars than the "Disney Canon" will ever hope to be.
Dudeeee, the only part of the title I could read on my phone was "The moment Qui-Gon Jinn became Darth..." with Plaugueis in the thumbnail... I was like "WAIT.. WHAT THE HELL?!?!"
lol I was confused as well
That actually makes me wonder... Have you heard how Count Dooku actually saw a vision of Dark Side Yoda? It creeped him out extremely, and he knew that Yoda was even more powerful than Sidious, but I wonder if Dooku would ever have been able to see Qui-Gon on the dark side.... I wonder what he would be like!
I remember that the most startling revelation for me upon the release of the Plagueis novel was the fact that he was alive up to the events of the Phantom Menace. when Palpatine seemed to be the mastermind behind everything, there was a third Sith. he, Plagueis, was the unseen threat. he was behind it all.
Doesnt it kinda ruins the Rule of Two? What does the novel say about it?
@@ericfrolov148 Plagueus wanted to end the Rule if Two with Palpatine (i.e. cooperation); Palpatine of course weaseled his way around it.
Sideous was actually in control, and he orchestrated the events during the last decade of Plagueis’ life.
Its ironic, sidious thought he learned everything important that plagius knew, but then he killed his master in his sleep
Never realized Plageius was still alive when Anakin was discovered. Had assumed Palpatine had killer his master years before. Thanks for this clarification
Qui-Gon is like the Ned Stark of Star Wars
@Leo Jansen lol you mad?
Ned Stark is the Qui-Gon of Game of Thrones, wtf.
@Leo Jansen it's not that serious
I'd have thought that Darth Plaqueis would've been assassinated prior to the events of episode 1
You could argue that Qui Gon knew full well what he was doing and was aware of Anakin's inevitable turn to the dark side but in his betrayal as Darth Vader would arise a new era of the jedi.
The Sith always beat themselves
Qui-Gon is also the one who rediscovered Force Ghost ability
one often meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it
I watch when I can but more often than not I'm left more in awe at the lore of the force, thank you for all that you do!
Star Wars Darth Plagueis is simply the best star wars book in history.
The Thrawn Trilogy?
@@bemotivated8443 Tie?
The Bane trilogy?
@@EchthelionII Stalemate?
@@vitorkennedy1862 That's fair.
Sidious: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise
Anakin: No
Sidious: There was one Jedi he ever feared
Anakin: Who? Yoda?
Sidious: No. You’re old master. Qui Gon Jinn
Qui gon jin was obi wan kenobi's master.
Hammer of Hell yes but many do consider Qui Gon to be an initial master of Anikin
Leo Jansen not really because he wasn’t a Jedi at the time, he only became a Jedi after Qui-Gon’s death and so his master was Obi-Wan
Leo Jansen but he wasn’t his master because he wasn’t a Jedi, if Anakin wasn’t a Jedi he couldn’t have a Jedi master that’s how that universe works
@@connor4435 except it was Qui-Gon Jinn that won Anakin Skywalker via a bet on the Pod race, thus, even thou Anakin was no longer a slave, he did owe his freedom to Q-G-J and may have considered him a Master in some sense.
This is a million times better than the Disney sequels.
So you're saying Anakin was created by the force as a retaliation against the Sith attempting to dominate it, and actually succeeding in clouding it?
The force was like: Sith bitches tryna mess with me, well now, I'm just not gonna let that slide.
No the force allowed them to tip the balance to the dark. Because there was no consequence Plagueis wanted to do something even more extreme and pushed his power on every being in the galaxy to attempt to create a being storng in the force, but this time it resisted him and created Anakin to eventually strike back at the Sith.
Just want a Qui-Gon show that introduces Plagueis into star wars written by Dave Filoni
In short, Darth Plagueis feared many things and all things he feared were his greatest fears....
For knowing Plagueis is out there somewhere!
I love how Plagueis was literally like "Of all the Jedi, why did it have to be him?!"
Plagueis is watching you while you take a shower and having visions of your future showers
If not for me: "I would like to see Darth plagueis own movie."
Who would've wanted to be Qui Gon Jinn's apprentice or at least trained by him?
👇
ME
I definitely need to learn more about this Jedi Master. Seeing him be killed by Maul makes me question how powerful he really was. Knowledgeable.....yes.
He doesn't know who Darth Plagueis is or what he wants. But if he mess with the Jedis, Qui-gon going to find him and he's going to kill him.
Is it just me or am I the only one who considers the Darth Plagueis novel canon because it makes to much gosh darn sense not to
Can I get a picture of Qui-Gon riding a Flygon?
Didnt know that the Jedi alredy knew about Anakin before TPM, cool.
Stopping at 1:15 before I finish, this makes what happened on Naboo much more interesting. Maul may have failed to kill both Jedi but he killed Qui Gon. Thus sealing the Jedi's fate. Sidious really should have appreciated his apprentices success.
I remember watching a video that the taijitu symbol commonly known as Yin and Yang, is the perfect way to describe the balance of the force, darkness in light and light in darkness, and destroying the sith would move the force back to the dark side.
Total mind blower. Didn't know Plagueis was alive that close to Phantom Menace.
This Darth Plagueis novel seems quite awesome from everything I hear. Going to read it.
this was before the dark times, before the disney cannon
I wish we could have had more time with Qui Gon. Such an underused character.
Lol I love your "if not for me"s they are great 🤣
Everyone knows Qui-Gon was a sith double agent right? He made sure the chosen one brought balance... just not in the way the jedi thought the chosen one would.
Qui-Gon is the key to all this.
Love rewatching your content, always learning something new about Star Wars 👍🏼
He was always my favourite character from the moment he was introduced to me in his Lego form in Lego Star Wars. Funny how that still stands now that I know about the SW *L O R E.*
This was a very enlightening back story! Awesome
How come Qui-Gon didn’t try to reveal Sidous identity after he became one with the force?
Alex M because it a movie...lol
Because force ghost can only pass on wisdom, not knowledge. They can't intervene on events. The Jedi Order being destroyed was actually part of "balancing the force".
That fat dude, flying the X wing above the Death Star (I think his name was Porkins) was key to the entire Star Wars universe...then he had a problem and crashed.😭
I know that it is now Legends but when Plagueis sent Maul to kill Qui Gon because of a Force Vision, I can't help but think of what another character in the Destiny universe once said. "But will my actions avert the futures I see, or cause them?" Osiris is a Warlock who could peer into the future with Vex Technology. So it could be that in Legends Star Wars he caused the events he saw.
Love your channel man I have watched almost every video you have.
Thank you very much for the support Fred, it is great to hear that you are enjoying the videos!
@@starwarsreadingclub you are one of the view channels I actually watch when I get notifications. Keep it up.
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Wise the Plagueis?
Wanted to see more of qui-gon :( , imagine the actor came back to do a tv show of qui-gon 🙌🏼
This video inspires me more in wanting to see a Palpatine backstory movie.
Plagueis and Qui-Gon being opposites in the Force is so fascinating. I would have loved to have seen what a battle between these two would be like. One of my favorite Sith vs. my favorite Jedi.
Plagueis manipulated DNA and the Force to create Anakin.
Awesome Video! Finaly got the Darth Plagueis novel and really enjoying it.
Qui Gon was a filthy defiant space hippie , but imagine what a superb Sith he could have been .
He would have been exceptionally powerful and wise , he would have easily brought the galaxy under control and the galaxy would have been better off .
He would have brought peace , prosperity and order to his Empire.
I hope one day Disney can at least give us a cannon story of Sidious and Plagueis' back stories. I still think Snoke is Plagueis.
a Shame Plagueis was not in the prequels that would have been interesting to see I hope one day Lucas Film and Disney make a movie or TV show on Plagueis.
and Qui Gon being killed was the one thing that set everything into motion to begin with. because if qui gon would have trained anakin and not obi wan...things would have turned out differently and most likely in favor of the dark side.
no? they would have turned out in favour to the light side, as anakin would have not had as much anger snd emotions
what if qui-gon trained anakin.(survived)
He feared Jinn because he knew that Jinn was known in our world by another name.
If not for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
for knowing that Plagueis is out there somewhere.
What about the moment sand became Anakin/Darth Vaders greatest weakness?
I wish we had gotten a Plagueis movie. With so much negativity around anything Disney Star Wars these days I don't want them to touch it. Because even if it's actually good (which is rare now unfortunately), it's going to get shit on by scorned and disenfranchised fans. And I'm by no means trying to knock the fans here. I'm hoping they just stick to new shit so no more legacy characters and stories get tarnished and altered.
Mike Keough hey. The new Lucasfilm is doing animated TV and the new mainstream films POORLY to say the least...but they do anthology movies, live-action TV, comics, and games really well
@@harrambou9468 They absolutely are getting some things right. I agree with you. But I'm still nervous especially with their support from fans being so shaky. Then there's the fact they cannot seem to realize we just want thought out story arcs and characters on a consistent basis. It makes me suspect they will double down on what they think will essentially trick us into buying their product by loading everything with lots of nostalgia but not really any substance. All the while potentially causing more damage by not truly understanding what we're actually wanting. You know, more story arcs and characters that took time, passion and care to get right.
And I'm not promoting the Star Wars fatigue argument. I'm fine with lots of new content. But only if said content is getting the care it needs.
Random side note; I think it would have been cool if they did something like the MCU and released the new trilogy in phases. Phase one would give a movie to Finn (as a First Order soldier), Poe (doing his Poe Dameron thing), Rey (as a junker on Jakku) and Ben/Kylo (either training and traveling with Luke or training with Snoke). Give us backstory and reasons to care. Then end phase with Episode 7. Rinse and repeat for 8 and 9. I get that is technically not original like I was indirectly whining about before. But it's a good way to get a lot of content out over several years, building support for the new trilogy and theme park. And they could test out new ideas and directors without risking the actual trilogy movies.
Neither the Jedi nor the Sith ever deserved QGJ.
Not the most skilled or powerful jed he is still one of if not the greatest jedi ever.
Wow man awesome star wars video
I don't like the notion that the Force did that.
Technically anakin was the chosen one and did bring balance
What sith fear dosnt kill them their death sneaks up on them by something they never considered
If Jinn didn’t die. Ani would never have turned to the dark side. Dooku would have never have turned to the dark side. Which means the clone wars would never start.
Or they would under different circumstances.
For knowing Pelagius is out there somewhere!
What would you say are the top 10 Legends books? Traditional, not comic.
New subscriber here awesome channel may the force be with you
What if obi wan kenobi became a sith lord if possible could you make a video about this
Qui gon is the best Jedi master of all time to be honest
Would had been interesting if Jedi Master Fay trained anakin
I’m I on drugs or is Luke’s lightsaber hilt emitting the blade the wrong way?
If he lives just the fact that he would have trained anikin would save the galaxy
So let me get this straight. Darth P. actually assaulted the force itself, and the force struck back at him by making Anakin? No wait hang on I just learned more. The force only created Anakin after Darth P. attempted to create a whole new being from the force. After that failed, the force actually ran away from P. and struck back at him by creating life on its own, which would be the chosen one Anakin Skywalker.
Make ANALYSIS OF ANAKIN VS MACE DUEL IN GAME ADAPTATION.
The Jedi's idea of balance is moronic
If they knew of the prophecy that the chosen one would destroy the sith, then why did the Jedi assume the Sith were extinct for a thousand years?
Wow since when do the sith fear anyone
Every time they come across someone more powerful/dangerous than them.
@Sub or you are against Trump in 2020 sith do have fear they just hide it well, its not something a sith would admit to either but its one of many dark emotions they use to fuel their power, sidious feared yoda, he also feared vader reaching his full potential too and overthrowing him at some point and he feared plagueis returning shortly after he killed him before he learned of mauls defeat
I had know clue plagueis was alive to witness Anakin that's cool
Thanks for the video
My favorite Jedi of all time next to Mace, is Qui-Gon. I have a soft spot for Dooku as well. The order failed them all...
Sorry to say this but can you put more fitting music for this? LIke that vocal-only music that Star Wars has (forgot what that genre is called)?
So Anakin is a weapon of the force to what? kill Sidious and Plaguies? I though they both made Anakin for the darkside. Am confused.
What if Darth Maul ran Anakin over on Tatooine?
Tht voice is butter 🧈 bro...
So there we have it...