How Sidious Became a MASTER at Hiding his Sith Identity from the Jedi Order! (Legends)
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The Non-Canon Expert looks at the important events that would allow the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious to conceal his dark side alignment and his strength with the Force from the Jedi Order for over three decades, explaining how his position within the lineage of Bane's Sith Order, his training under Darth Plagueis, and his natural abilities with the Force allowed him to be so success at hiding in plain sight.
This is a Legends story for Darth Sidious with information primarily found within the Legends novels "Star Wars: Darth Bane: Rule of Two," and "Star Wars: Darth Plagueis." I hope that you enjoy it!
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I remember how much concentration and power it took for Darth Zannah to conceal her identity in the Jedi temple, what sidious achieved shows how much the powers of the sith grew stronger and evolved all those years in hiding
I couldn't agree more with you here PS and it's a great evolution to see from Karpyshyn's "Rule of Two" to Luceno's "Darth Plagueis." What was an extremely difficult feat for Darth Zannah was almost "effortless" for the Sith Order by the time of Tenebrous, Plagueis, and Sidious. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
Yes while I’m sure zannah overtime improved her own force stealth abilities that ability was most likely passed down through the sith
@@AndreNitroX well yeah of course it was
I remember in Rule of Two when Zannah finally got the answer she was looking for in the Jedi Temple. She cheered and her concentration and power slipped for a few seconds
Yeah that happened, a few moments later something worse happened, someone from her past recognized her
Not to mention...The Jedi believed all politicians had something to hide. That was made clear. So, if the Jedi did sense that Palpy was hiding something, they'd just chalk it up as "he's a Politician"
How did Sidious become a master? Easy. Mace Windu wasn’t there to say “Take a seat”.
It’s outrageous it’s unfair
“How could you be the Chancellor of the republic, and not be a Master”
Take a seat Chancellor
This sipping where the fun begins
@Christopher Hancock Going about it the wrong way, boss. You gotta embrace its badness. Use your regressive feelings. Let the cringe flow through you.
What I am most impressed about the Emperor being able to hide his identity from the Jedi Masters and the higher echelon of Jedi, the ones who are always in the library reading & learning, is none of them commented on the art in Sheev's office. It's literally filled with ancient and modern Sith iconography. Things the Jedi would have either seen in the writings or been described to them in the writings of the ancient Jedi and 'captured' Sith books & holocrons. Things they would have seen on other planets whenever they came across a Sith Temple. Over the 30+ years the emperor was in politics/power, many of the learned Jedi leaders would have been in his office.
repeatedly.
clueless.
If one does not expect to see something, one can easily not see something. Many of what Sidious chose were purposely obscure and complicated. Sidious was a complete master of manipulation. By being such a beaming smile, a firm hand of guidance as friend to many of the Jedi, it was easy to deceive them. It is hard to find an enemy where one sees a friend, hard to be suspicious and investigative of a man who is loved. At the time of Order 66 Palpatine was probably the most beloved and respected politician in the history of the Republic, the only reason the Republic was still in one piece despite entire sectors under siege and dying. He was the one who dismissed the claims of Jedi conspiracies, but by directly addressing them he gave them legitimacy, by bringing them up often, even if to call them baseless accusations, he cemented them, and made himself all the more the innocent, beloved old man, hero of the galaxy, attacked by Jedi when the time came. Such was how Palpatine manipulated, constantly keeping the attention of his opponents exactly where he wanted them, such as with Mace Windu onto Anakin Skywalker, using the distrust of Mace and the disrespectful and resentful behavior to pry Anakin from the Jedi Order while keeping himself out of focus, or as with Yoda, always focused on those around Sidious and the great distant future but never on Sidious with suspicion until far too late. If one can manipulate whatever others are even capable of focusing on, what words are used and repeated in conversation, and what they feel, then that person can control others entirely.
@@pubcle
Brilliant reply.
The only thing I would add would be from the novel Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover and that is thd room in his apartment where he kept his Sith works and iconography was purpose-built.
It was built on a schematic based on a dark Force nexus, a microcosm of Dagobah, if you will. Stover asserts that if one was too look very carefully the room where Palpatiine tells Anakin that he's a Sith Lord doesn't really have corners. The room does not have 90 degree corners. It's a room that's hidden in a dark dimension. If anyone watches Revenge of the Sith again, carefully observe where Palpatiine takes Anakin. It's a door that opens into that purpose built room.
I seriously do not think for one minute that Sidious would have invited a Jedi Master into that room. Yoda and Mace Windu would have not realised immediately, within about say 10 minutes they would have sensed a serious stirring in the Force and ultimately the Dark side at work. Hence, Palpatiine would not risk any exposure. He worked tediously on hiding in the shadows and mssking any part of himself as per Darth Plagueis's instructions.
Anakin blinded by his fear of losing Padme and him being seduced by Sidious meant that he too did not take any notice of the room and the artwork and icons.
He wasn’t just a master of this ability I think you would agree he is THE master of the ability. I don’t think we will ever see anyone else at this level of mastery of the conceal ability
Plagius my friend.
That's probably true. George has said that Sidious was the strongest Sith there's ever been. So he has the raw force power to be able to be the best ever at it, and as per all the reasons the video states, he has the training and skills and decades of experience. Lucas also said Yoda was the strongest Jedi there's been...so there's also the fact that it worked in close proximity on a fairly regular basis against the strongest Jedi ever.
Not that good, I saw right through him since episode 1
I like to think Palps concealing his dark side energy around Jedi was like holding a fart in public so when they leave he’s just like “finally holy shit”
"Evil wears many masks, none so dangerous as the mask of righteousness." I forget who said that.
The exact quote is "Villainy where's many masks none so dangerous as the mask of virtue" Washington Irving
I love what an amazing actor Sidious really is. He's THE incarnation of evil, but he manages to play and act the good old Senator/Chancellor even in front of his enemies and the people he plans to kill. Just seeing these scenes and imagining how Sidious feels deceiving everyone is fantastic
If Kathleen Kennedy can do it Darth Sidious can damn well do it too.
How Sidius became a master...
Anakin: *is it possible to learn this power*
Not from a Jedi
You know I just realized that if you get on Palpatine’s good side he’s actually a pleasant person to be around . Either as a Politician or Sith Lord.
LocoArticWolf 21 eh... he acts good but necessarily doesn't give one flying blast about you either way...only if he finds you useful then ya he'll still not care about you besides your usefulness really
Tracey Jacobsen I’m just saying, also chances are you may not realize it due to his manipulation and he took steps to make himself more friendly and appealing to be around.
Sidieous and people like him (there are a lot of them in this world) are some of the worst type of people on this planet. Because they beguile gullibles like you.
4 Look I know that I was just saying.
Thing is most people think they know how to read these kind of people but in reality it takes one to know one.
I strongly believe that Qui-Gon would’ve been able to sense Darth Sidious and expose him
Johnathon Davis exactly
Johnathon Davis, and we see this when Windu said "The dark side surrounds the Chancellor" and the rest of the Council dismissed him.
@@tonyhinojosa7710 very good point they not only dismissed it they dismissed mace windu and of memory serves me he was the grandmaster before relinquishing to Yoda and they still dismissed it makes you wonder if more than just concealment was being used
Then why didn't he in TPM when he first brought Ani and Padme to Corescant (to secure the safety of the Nabooian queen), and both Jin and Palps were on the same landing platform in such close proximity?
@@samain1804 fair I think it would be a more accurate statement to say that with qui gon around the likley hood of his discovery would go up a decent amount as Palpatine relied on how single minded the jedi were something that qui gon was not
This channel is so underrated. The starwars EU in general needs more recognition
Zannah did not like hiding her true nature as a sith it made her feel disgusted. I thought that was a nice little detail in the trilogy.
I wish all Jedi knew Force Concealment. Otherwise, the Jedi Purge would've had a lot less casualties.
The sentinels may have survived being secret agent types and usually going on long journeys for unspecified times.
I think Yoda and Obi Wan used it to hide from the Empire
CSC Didn’t Yoda live near the cave of evil to hide because it is an nexus of the dark side I think Yoda was not as good in hiding his force ability’s
White Gold yes he did I watch his video on that not too long ago
Also Force Not Being Morons would have been helpful
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he doesn't exist.
Master manipulator
Culmination of the Rule of Two
Emperor of the galaxy
Founder of the Galactic Empire
Powerful Sith Lord in history
and the closest thing we will ever see to a living avatar of the Dark Side of the Force
Hey wait...
Most importantly
He's *_"THE SENATE"_*
Harry Harris of course. And the Senate!!
Sidious became friends with many people, hiding his true Sith alignment.
Yes "friends" he would become "friends" with you as well.
they may concider him a friend but he just sees them as pawns or tools
The Darth Plagueis and Darth Bane are masterpieces.
Oh yes they bring such depth to the sith. Almost to the point of you actually wanting them to succeed in destroying the Jedi
@@AndreNitroX well they did but Vader ruined all
@@BlyUehara37 well you got to give them credit, its not their fault evil never wins.
I’m so glad that you are going more in depth with Palpatine as he is my favorite character in Star Wars.
It's simple. He was able to dew it because he was The Senate.
I left a like for *Friendship*
He really learned how to conceal things during his college years when he would sneak out to sith clubs without telling his family or friends.
Pleaguis was so proficient at Force Concealment that his own apprentice did not sense his master's presence outside the Senate building before the vote on admitting the Trade Federation client world's to the Republic
He is strong with the Dark Side, very strong.
The best explanation of how he did it is this .. at high noon your shadow is underneath you and you never really notice it
The master of hiding, but at the moment of truth Windu was going to slice him like a pickle.
Fascinating how Darth bane and zannah helped shape the legacy that would create sidious and destroy the jedi
He wore Clark Kent glasses...lenses made of kyber crystals....there you have it!! 😆
There was another video I remember seeing awhile back that theorized that Palpatine was so powerful due to being a straight up sociopath from the very beginning. This probably also helped him blend in with how sociopaths can be.
Psychopath is a better term. But yeah, I would think that being genetically evil garners a huge advantage for a Dark Side user. And it's stated that Palpatine was extraordinarily gifted with the Force, meaning he was the perfect storm: a a hugely Force sensitive psychopath born into galactic aristocracy. He was basically destined to be the most evil being ever born into the galaxy.
Some Sith were masters at "force shit". They would come over to the Jedi's house and use the force to screw up the their plumbing.
Basically it's somewhat similar as Suppressing your Power Level within the Dragonball Universes.
Just like how Peter Parker hide his Spider-Man identity. Lol
or Bruce Wayne with batman.
or tony str.......oh nevermind.
0:51 3 DECADES...? Yea I guess so...
4:34 3 decade before THE CLONE WARS? That would mean he was a senator for 20 Years...?
I really like that you still cover the Legends too. 👍
I was under the impression that sidious had sith amulets that also had the effect of hiding force based Powers
Is it strange it reminds me of dragon ball Z with hiding energy? Just with the force?
"Vegeta! What does the Scouter say about his Force Alignment?"
That’s actually a pretty good comparison
It’s very good that you covered Darth sidious in the early stages. I’m also appreciative of the fact you sticking by canon ( plus you cover legends). Thanks 👍
The Sith artifacts played a huge role in the concealment
So, Force Cloak is from Legends. Ben and Luke Skywalker learned how to do it as well as Jacen Solo. This is not what Palpatine is doing. He has hidden his power inward on his own since the start. When Darth Plagious met him he did not see it, but knew there was something to him. His force presence was pulled so far inward it was described as a black hole of dark force energy. Doku described that in the Revenge of the Sith Novel.
He made many friends under false pretense.
Like a lot of people in real life
Sidious was a mastermind.
There is a unity for everything outside the Force without a dark side and that has conflict on a much smaller scale, with divisions of a lesser degree.
He wave his hand and said I'm not the Sith you're looking for.
Force concealment and mental barriers seem to be something Leia Organa was subconsciously naturally good at, she hid from Vader even while being interrogated on the DS I, something Luke couldn't do while flying an X-wing.
This is in addition to subconscious use of force persuasion in political setting and rallying or leading rebel forces in covert opperations.
But I also think she subconsciously used the force to augment reflexes in combat since she never seemed to miss, and augment her strength when she strangled a Hutt to death.
After Bane destroyed the Sith order, Made the Rule of Two, teaching to use the Darkside to obfuscate force abilities was the greatest lesson and gift Bane gave to the Sith order. The Jedi (Thinking the Sith destroyed) became complacent and presumptuous. General fear and admiration of the Order over the generations gave them their arrogance and laziness which led to their destruction. Plagues was one of the most powerful Dark Lords since Bane and not only did he walk amongst Jedi, he manipulated Sifo Dyas into cloning troops for Sidious, while simultaneously being one of the most powerful figures in the Banking Clan and no one knew he could turn on a light saber.
Sidious calmly, cheerfully welcomed every Jedi in his office with open arms and a warm heart embraced in friendship, never revealing that the reason he could smile so brightly was as he envisioned every single one of them dying by his hand.
Palpatine is a truly terrifying figure who makes his evil fun. Star Wars is a fun sci fi action-adventure epic with just the right amount of camp, but surrounded in tragedy in its characters, not Palpy oh no he's just LOVING his life, and in that love is wrapped in hatred and destruction the likes of which has never been seen before or after in Star Wars. I will always argue Palpatine was the ultimate Dark Side user of Star Wars, more so than Abeloth who while powerful never utilized it so smartly, never controlled it so precisely as Palpatine could at his height. No one has ever competed with him for that throne as the ultimate villain in Star Wars, though there are many, many good ones. Palpatine as a character is fascinating, he's a character that manages to be unredeemable but absolutely adored for how evil, murderous, psychopathic he is and how he just indulges in that role to the highest degree but still keeps subtlety when needed. He's easily one of the best fictional characters, even more through his actor's actions than his writer's. He's all the right pieces fitting together just right.
Palpatine didn't hid the nature of his force power, he hid the fact that he was force sensitive, which is an easier skill to master, than nature change.
Sith infiltrating the Republic and even in the jedi order is not something that started with Sidious, the Sith have been doing this for millennia, with the sith infiltrators of the Vitiate empire for example, and the most famous infiltrator was *Barel Ovair*
Sith destroy Jedi order with Mandalorian copy boys just like the Good old Sith/ Mandalorian Days
*☼ i love this channel. it is my fav post hoc writing channel. & one of the few to stay on one topic for so long.*
Nothing short of masterful.
I love that all the examples given of those Jedi who Plageius met with are Jedi who eventually learned far more than the Sith wanted.
Force stealth and playing the role of a weak old man very evil indeed
6:00 those fingers tho
I love these videos. I learn so much and I always wondered how Sidious hid this so well in front of the Jedi council for so long
Young palpatine looks like that actor in the movie Tag that had never been tagged your it . 😂😂
Sidious has to be the best Sith Lord.
Palpatine was probably born with the ability. That's why he was overlooked by the Jedi.
Wasn’t the Temple built on top of a dark side nexus? And added to the fact that the Sith had blinded the Jedi.
Sidious put the force on incognito mode
Thank you for making this video. I can show it to father so he can better understand why the jedi couldn't sense the dark side in Palpatine. My father loves to troll me by saying the jedi council were all weak, and he might still continue to troll after this seeing this video. Anyway, it is an interesting subject and shows how cunning, intelligent and powerful Palpatine was.
Have a nice morning/day/evening/night.
Also, the Jedi Temple was built atop a Sith temple. Far under the Jedi Temple was a powerful Sith artifact. Palatine would go there and cast spells.
Just watched an ad that mentioned jo Jo's bizarre adventure, memes have come full circle
There should be a video done on what Darth Sidious kalorien count is like. I'm sure it has to be higher than Anakin's or Yoda's!
He must feel like a g honestly imagine all them Jedis and not one not even yoda knew also the jedis were their own demise Sidious just sped things up imagine having a phone and only using it to call and text not go on the internet or even any other apps that’s how the jedis were with the force they barely used it all the cool force abilities were “banned” or deemed sith like when in reality if all jedis just shared their knowledge and passed it down everything about the force would be known and I’m sure anakins tragedy never would of happened
In the new canon. They say that the jedi temple build on top of a old old sith temple so it gave Palpatine alot more power to conceal his i.d.
I'm not saying it's the only one reason why but one of many
And good job on the video. You really did your homework on this.
Thank you.
This man is the best Sith Lord of all time he deserved to rule the galaxy’s for that time being of the empire seriously 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Second. Nice video. I'm in a real stat wars-y mood since I'm gonna get jedi fallen order on Thursday. You should get it and stream gameplay
Younger Sidious looks like Hawkeye in the thumbnail ...
People also forgot that Palpatine is basically a master of force concealment BEFORE Plagueis discovered him.
No, he didn't. 6:55 - He very clearly mentioned that Palpatine was already naturally great at force concealment.
@@perfectlybalancedasallthin9319 *Sees the title*
Wow the chancellor hasn't aged a bit in many years....
Is it possible to learn this power?...Not from a Jedi.! 🔝🔥
“Do you want to know the probability of him using it against you? It’s high. It’s very high.”
Like having the high ground?
Mace WIndu sensed the plot to destroy the Jedi that dark side the force surrounds the chancellor Palpatine.
Did Darth Sidious let slip his stealth that point deliberately, did he for-see what gonna happen
I don't think he would let slip his stealth risking his master plan made for all these years
expose his identity without having upper hand.
I always thought it was some weird item thing fro the book Maul: Shadow Hunter. if I remember correctly it was this weird thing from a creature that made you invisible to the force. I haven't read the book in a few years though.
I always wondered how he could be so close to such great force users and they couldn’t detect his plot at all.
I still think Bane enter Zannah at the end . With Essence Transfer..
This is one of those things that make zero sense not being in canon
2-9-22 force concealment its like playing A part of A camielian.
Please, please do a video on the Tython fight between Bane, Zannah, and the Jedi
Because he is one of the ultimate puppet masters in all of sci-fi and fantasy
100% agree
LOVE THIS VIDEO...This is what the prequels are about...not Anakin to Vader.
One of your best videos 👌🏼
I love your Sith videos.
Thanks for the video admiral glenn
It was awesome when he opened the can of worms
@Star Wars Reading Club: I am curious to hear your opinion on this. If a Jedi from the era of say KOTOR/TOR were to appear in the prequel era, do you think they would have been just as fooled as the Jedi of that era? Or would their more frequent interaction with the Sith and the dark side give them an edge in penetrating this concealment?
I saw Sith and master and i immediatly facepalmed
Star Wars prequel. The Naboo Psycho.
Also, how can one not leave a like for you if they're leaving a like for *friendship* were all friends here.
Because he threw the whole senate at them
I’m watching rogue one right now and at the scene where there on the desert planet and that big fight scene happens she goes to save that little Asian girl do you think that girl is rose??
Gamer Trade nah...that girl was like 6, and The Last Jedi is 34 years later so Rose would be at least 40
Gamer Trade besides fuck Rose Tico
Gamer Trade I don’t think so. She seems a bit too young to be Rose and she probably died in the test
*edit spelling
Copman021 Copman021 nah she’s too old
Harrambou the actor for rose is 30 years old
This isn't a guy Rey can easily beat the hell out of! The best ever Sith vs the not a Jedi Granddaughter! Not good!
Hey, considering this is legends, couldn’t a Miralukan Jedi see his alignment. Since its just how they see? For example Visas Marr
Darth Crowley the true Sith Lord
One can really get sucked into this channel
I hate that Sideous has replaced Darth Vader as "the ultimate villain" ...Vader was active. Cold. Calculated and unmatched in light saber dueling.
Now suddenly sideous is the badass and Vader is his bitch. Star Wars went to hell in a hand-basket because of this switch.
"In this video" ... Wait, what? I think you missed a word there!
However it doesn't appear that the Sith could disguise their deformity.
Plagius could not detect Palpatine as a force user himself...how is it that you say Plagius trained him in the ability...?