While I do enjoy the successful 1984 adaptation of "The Sad Story of Henry", it's such a shame that the 1953 one didn't go as planned. I would've loved to hear a female narrator for Thomas like Julia Lang!
@@callum110597 one word: Junking The BBC, until 1975 with the invention of Home Media, saw old tapes as Economically Useless and so would either Junk, Burn or Wipe them. Your example, Doctor Who
A very well made look at the BBC adaptation. A while ago I made The Sad Story of Henry, using off the shelf Hornby Dublo models. (Yes, me Henry had smoke deflectors) :)
This was incredibly well researched! It's a shame we can't see the failed adaptation due to it never being recorded. I'm curious about Ward's models, I assume they were the ones used for illustrations? I wonder if the tank engine model ordered for the BBC production was originally intended to be Thomas.
First they tried to have a 2-story Railway Story specials for the BBC, but failed because of the models, especially Henry, 2nd they tried to do a Thomas musical animated show for Cosgrove-Hall and Granada Television for ITV, but never aired after the completion of the pilot, and now a successful and well-known Thomas series that follows a model trains but later CGI and went popular very quickly.
I wish I could remember what my original comment said, but I'll reiterate that I applaud all the time, effort and research that went into this. Very well done. And thank you once more for clearing up the misconception about the commission models. That one always drove me bonkers because it was so clearly debunked as soon as the photos were put online and everyone still made the wrong assumption anyway.
I’m sure that, when Britt allcroft approached reverend awdry about creating Thomas and friends, there was great reluctance from awdry because of the failed first attempt.
They filmed in Lime Grove Studio? Wow, to think 10 years later that same studio would be used for Doctor Who where it had it's on production challenges. That's what happens when you have little to no time to work on a program and film it live or in 1 take.
Personally, I wonder what became of the adaptation's script. Even if the BBC's Sad Story of Henry was never recorded or anything from Douglas Mair's set was preserved, I think Julia Lang's script might be the next best thing to find. I'm curious as to how the BBC envisioned its 10 minute adaptation, how it differed from the original story and get a picture of the intended June 1953 story.
I believe that, you only really need one location to deal with (a landscape in combination with Henry's tunnel). Therefore not only makes it things easier, but then if it is a success, you can create more sets later.
Since I’ve had to restart my account, I’ll re-explain myself. The green engine in Edward’s Day Out isn’t Henry because that story took place while he was still bricked up in the tunnel.
@@joshuaW5621 well I don't know about you, that big green engine looked exactly like Henry. Maybe the artist had done that purposely or something like that.
What would you wonder if the broadcast was done properly and the rails were set the right way. You would realize that we would get a completely different model series than we have now.
I would have loved it if this adaptation had been better made and successful. It sounds like a great idea, since the models and scenery were meant to be like the characters and backgrounds in the original books. Plus a female narrator would have been a splendid idea. Pity it was made by people who didn’t understand model railways. If it had, we probably would have had two shows based on Awdry’s work instead of just one.
In light of recent information we may have lost the original pilot. However next best thing we could seek is production information such as the script for Juila Lang, Pictures of the Model and possibly behind the scene pictures pre-production and just recently there was a picture of the model of James which was recently uncovered on Twitter!
While people have pointed out that the technology for a viewer to have recorded this, but sadly, I think the only thing we may possible see of it is maybe a photograph.
I have to admit the first Thomas and Friends Season 1 episode 3: The Sad Story of Henry is one of the saddest story of all and perhap maybe not an idea to make this episodes for small children because this could make them cry😢.
Once an engine attached to a train Had derailed on a set of points He was put back on the rails, with a mysterious hand And was glad to be back on the rails again.
Seems like it would be fun to film a re-enactment of the BBC broadcast, complete with the derailed engine and the hand reaching into camera. It could be preceded and followed by surviving footage of 1953 television.
Had that derailment not happened, Thomas the tank engine Could've been one of the first Children's TV shows in history. Sadly back in the 50s, there was no second chance if you made a mistake live on TV.
Could you assume the 1953 Sad Story of Henry is more associated to the Railway Series than the TV series, and is it likely that the models they used weren’t the same ones as the Model TV Series?
a bit of a mess up? yeah sure, that's a legit excuse BBC, considering you mortified thousands of families by screwing during your live production, causing one of the models to derail, and then showing a crew member's hand re-rail it, and all you say in response to the disaster? no wonder they declined either a redo or the second adaptation.
While I do enjoy the successful 1984 adaptation of "The Sad Story of Henry", it's such a shame that the 1953 one didn't go as planned. I would've loved to hear a female narrator for Thomas like Julia Lang!
Shame there is the possibly no one recorded it.
@@josephmarrison4606 Yeah, agreed. Back when we didn't have many recording cameras at home.
Well technically, there have been female narrators, just not in English.
in Sweden ( but only in the first two seasons, all the episodes Ringo narrated )
@@callum110597 one word: Junking
The BBC, until 1975 with the invention of Home Media, saw old tapes as Economically Useless and so would either Junk, Burn or Wipe them. Your example, Doctor Who
A very well made look at the BBC adaptation. A while ago I made The Sad Story of Henry, using off the shelf Hornby Dublo models. (Yes, me Henry had smoke deflectors) :)
This was incredibly well researched! It's a shame we can't see the failed adaptation due to it never being recorded. I'm curious about Ward's models, I assume they were the ones used for illustrations?
I wonder if the tank engine model ordered for the BBC production was originally intended to be Thomas.
Pretty poor choice if that was the case, because the model they did order is Ryan. Ryan is a GNR 0-6-2t, but Thomas is a LB&SCR 0-6-0t E2
The tank engine chassis would be reused for James.
First they tried to have a 2-story Railway Story specials for the BBC, but failed because of the models, especially Henry, 2nd they tried to do a Thomas musical animated show for Cosgrove-Hall and Granada Television for ITV, but never aired after the completion of the pilot, and now a successful and well-known Thomas series that follows a model trains but later CGI and went popular very quickly.
third time's the charm
I wish I could remember what my original comment said, but I'll reiterate that I applaud all the time, effort and research that went into this. Very well done.
And thank you once more for clearing up the misconception about the commission models. That one always drove me bonkers because it was so clearly debunked as soon as the photos were put online and everyone still made the wrong assumption anyway.
Shame that we probably will never see this
I’m sure that, when Britt allcroft approached reverend awdry about creating Thomas and friends, there was great reluctance from awdry because of the failed first attempt.
They filmed in Lime Grove Studio? Wow, to think 10 years later that same studio would be used for Doctor Who where it had it's on production challenges. That's what happens when you have little to no time to work on a program and film it live or in 1 take.
Personally, I wonder what became of the adaptation's script. Even if the BBC's Sad Story of Henry was never recorded or anything from Douglas Mair's set was preserved, I think Julia Lang's script might be the next best thing to find. I'm curious as to how the BBC envisioned its 10 minute adaptation, how it differed from the original story and get a picture of the intended June 1953 story.
considering the fact that we have a picture of james now, maybe we can find the script? who knows whats in the BBC archives
I wonder why Edward's Day Out and Edward and Gordon weren't the stories that were adapted first for TV.
@Joshua W56 wait then who is the green engine in the shed during edwards day out
I believe that, you only really need one location to deal with (a landscape in combination with Henry's tunnel). Therefore not only makes it things easier, but then if it is a success, you can create more sets later.
@jBN T I really had no idea about that at all. I always thought the 4 stories in that book were in that order.
Since I’ve had to restart my account, I’ll re-explain myself. The green engine in Edward’s Day Out isn’t Henry because that story took place while he was still bricked up in the tunnel.
@@joshuaW5621 well I don't know about you, that big green engine looked exactly like Henry. Maybe the artist had done that purposely or something like that.
I wonder what could of been had the 1953 adaptation been successful?
Then we would have gotten the BBC Railway Series TV show in the first episode would have been Edward's day out
The series would have had more realistic models
You know that's Right
It wouldn’t have been as good as the main series without the faces
What would you wonder if the broadcast was done properly and the rails were set the right way. You would realize that we would get a completely different model series than we have now.
Once an engine attached to a train,
was afraid of a few drops of rain.
The rails were too slack, it came off the track,
a hand put him back on again.
Great
Some lost media uploaded on my birthday today
This is incredible!!!
And so underrated
Brilliant job! Now let's get drunk and retell it XD
I would have loved it if this adaptation had been better made and successful. It sounds like a great idea, since the models and scenery were meant to be like the characters and backgrounds in the original books. Plus a female narrator would have been a splendid idea. Pity it was made by people who didn’t understand model railways. If it had, we probably would have had two shows based on Awdry’s work instead of just one.
The bad reviews actually outshined a MURDER TRIAL on the newspapers
That’s crazy
In light of recent information we may have lost the original pilot. However next best thing we could seek is production information such as the script for Juila Lang, Pictures of the Model and possibly behind the scene pictures pre-production and just recently there was a picture of the model of James which was recently uncovered on Twitter!
While people have pointed out that the technology for a viewer to have recorded this, but sadly, I think the only thing we may possible see of it is maybe a photograph.
I have to admit the first Thomas and Friends Season 1 episode 3: The Sad Story of Henry is one of the saddest story of all and perhap maybe not an idea to make this episodes for small children because this could make them cry😢.
So this is the sad story of the sad story of henry? Lol
BBC: We want the models to be similar if not almost identical with the illustrations
Also BBC: *Uses Duchess Of Atholl engines*
BRUH
Appreciate this video! Thanks it probably took hella research to get info on something this old
I think the CLOSEST thing to a BBC Sad Story of Henry is the Angelis narration from the BBC released Railway Stories CDs
Once an engine attached to a train
Had derailed on a set of points
He was put back on the rails, with a mysterious hand
And was glad to be back on the rails again.
@@DiamondKingStudios True I guess.
No idea why I’m getting Thomas stuff in my recommendation, but I’m okay with it
6:55 The rhyming of train and rain in that moment though.
Seems like it would be fun to film a re-enactment of the BBC broadcast, complete with the derailed engine and the hand reaching into camera. It could be preceded and followed by surviving footage of 1953 television.
0:03 Nobody: Thomas:
70 years ago today
Had that derailment not happened, Thomas the tank engine Could've been one of the first Children's TV shows in history. Sadly back in the 50s, there was no second chance if you made a mistake live on TV.
Will you talk about the 1970s adaptation of the RWS?
I'm surprised they didn't use James in the Britt Allcroft version.
If the 1953 adaptation was done at a later date, we would not have any of those "elementary mistakes"!
Can't Find The Lost Thomas The Tank Engine Pilot Named The Sad Story Of Herry On BBC (1953) But Is Lost
Could you assume the 1953 Sad Story of Henry is more associated to the Railway Series than the TV series, and is it likely that the models they used weren’t the same ones as the Model TV Series?
I just find the part with the hand putting Henry back on the rails to be very funny in my opinion
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This, would probably be, Awdrys reaction to what thomas has become today, post brenner era that is
If he saw All Engines Go he would have refused a tv series deal from the very beginning.
BBC screwed Thomas the way they screwed Doctor Who in the late 1980’s.
I have a friend Named Calvin who is 18 who is addicted to Thomas I might try to get him on this
Oh hi!
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a bit of a mess up? yeah sure, that's a legit excuse BBC, considering you mortified thousands of families by screwing during your live production, causing one of the models to derail, and then showing a crew member's hand re-rail it, and all you say in response to the disaster? no wonder they declined either a redo or the second adaptation.
Good this was cancelled because it doesn’t seem to accurate. The more accurate the better.