Yea good job on installing lights. I know how bad it is to work in a dark place, it's not fun. I always install lights first thing now days when moving to a new working environment.
Hi Chris , not sure if you are aware of them or not , but you can get a spray mist lubrication system for machining , they aren't overly expensive ~$150 AUD and also can get a variety of lubricants to suit different materials , but you do need compressed air. Just thought it may be more suitable for larger projects instead of manual application . As for the rust on your machine , might be worth spraying on wd40 or similar on all working machine surfaces at end of day just to try and help keep the rust away :)
If my garage had a good power system I would do that, it was part of my original plan to do sometime. But I'm running every single thing in the garage (all power tools, CNC and splndle, lights, water pump, vacuum cleaner, and water pump for the house) from a single outlet. The water pump is a heavy load and can turn on at any time, and I don't like to have the vacuum cleaner going at the same time. I just worry that having the compressor also suddenly turning on would be too much. I have found that the IPA is usually only helpful when plunging into the next layer, not really on sideways movements (the tall sidewalls in this video are kinda rare, although now that I have this vice I might be doing more of them). I think a g-code controlled squirter that outputs a little just before each plunge would be ideal.
@@iforce2d if you were keen to use it one solution could possibly be having the compressor in a remote location with a different power supply and piping the air in , if the compressor had a regulator on it even some cheap poly pipe would work. But yeah an auto applicator with the gcode is a good idea, and probably the easiest to apply :)
@@iforce2d Sounds like it could be time to review one of the solar generator power station thingies like bluetti or ecoflow. You can set the AC input charging rate to be something low and stable for your wiring, and the battery / inverter side can handle any peaks and inrush surges.
Thinking the same, a battery bank to run all, or some of the load through a quality inverter. Could even use a couple micro-inverter designed for solar panels that provide 400-600W with DYI battery to run lights or other smaller load. Some inverters have built-in battery management. Bonus would be having a backup system handy for when power goes out from a winter storm (keep food in fridge/freezer, etc).
Do you have any dial indicators? You mention not using one, but they'll help you out a lot checking is surfaces are aligned or getting parts accurately position in the vice, or even getting the spindle lined up with a feature youbwant to work on
In Aus we have Hare and Forbes, same gear(some good, some crap, others so-so) ......drill vice is as you found, next to useless for anything precision. Like the one you now have although we tend to use the VK range, either 4,5,6,or 8". Mine is the VK-4....one thing, last machined item, I'd tend to have it spaced up on solid rather than sit in free air....tendency for it to move under machining. Good stuff...like the machine...Cheers Jorgo .....latest from my shed ... czcams.com/video/AXDFKuWPxMg/video.html ....... czcams.com/video/NPtAYLX9uZM/video.html
Do you have any dial indicators? If you want ~precision~ a dial indiactor will help a lot, and the cheap ones will still do a reasonably good job for you
We have a lot of fog in winter and there is no wall on the front of this garage, which can't be helping. But still I was surprised at how quickly the rust sprang up. Most of that was already there in the first few months, the cover seemed to really help slow it down a lot.
@@iforce2d By the way, I don't see any signs of rust on SBR linear shafts, looks like chromed coating helps a lot. I heard earlier that SBR have a better metal quality than Chinese made profile rails..
Wonder if blowing off the screws with compressed air after working with wood, or other materials that absorb moisture might help slow. Coating with oil tend to just attract stuff. (WD-40 is good option if decide on this route)
Mmmm... just a small flashlight should do the trick! 😜 (You've made a little typo there, Mark... you have an extra "on" and left out "oil". If you edit it, I'll remove this.)
Sure, I just didn't realize it would deteriorate so fast. Almost all the rust I showed appeared quite soon after building it, unfortunately there was a period of time early on where I didn't use it for a while and next time I looked the rust had sprung up very quickly. Since I started using the cover, as far as I can tell only the rust on the bottom ball screws progressed any further after that.
That PNP machine is looking glorious!
Yea good job on installing lights. I know how bad it is to work in a dark place, it's not fun. I always install lights first thing now days when moving to a new working environment.
The vice is great
I predict a pick&place😊
How many times did you replay the last ten seconds? 😜
@@PiefacePete46 😁none. If I remember correctly Chris mentioned something about pick&place in one of previous videos (one with sbus mixer probably)
Mass is the enemy of acceleration
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That's a nice addition, you should get a heap of use out of it. 👍
I envy that you have summer now down there
Hi Chris , not sure if you are aware of them or not , but you can get a spray mist lubrication system for machining , they aren't overly expensive ~$150 AUD and also can get a variety of lubricants to suit different materials , but you do need compressed air. Just thought it may be more suitable for larger projects instead of manual application .
As for the rust on your machine , might be worth spraying on wd40 or similar on all working machine surfaces at end of day just to try and help keep the rust away :)
If my garage had a good power system I would do that, it was part of my original plan to do sometime. But I'm running every single thing in the garage (all power tools, CNC and splndle, lights, water pump, vacuum cleaner, and water pump for the house) from a single outlet. The water pump is a heavy load and can turn on at any time, and I don't like to have the vacuum cleaner going at the same time. I just worry that having the compressor also suddenly turning on would be too much.
I have found that the IPA is usually only helpful when plunging into the next layer, not really on sideways movements (the tall sidewalls in this video are kinda rare, although now that I have this vice I might be doing more of them). I think a g-code controlled squirter that outputs a little just before each plunge would be ideal.
@@iforce2d if you were keen to use it one solution could possibly be having the compressor in a remote location with a different power supply and piping the air in , if the compressor had a regulator on it even some cheap poly pipe would work.
But yeah an auto applicator with the gcode is a good idea, and probably the easiest to apply :)
@@iforce2d Sounds like it could be time to review one of the solar generator power station thingies like bluetti or ecoflow. You can set the AC input charging rate to be something low and stable for your wiring, and the battery / inverter side can handle any peaks and inrush surges.
Thinking the same, a battery bank to run all, or some of the load through a quality inverter. Could even use a couple micro-inverter designed for solar panels that provide 400-600W with DYI battery to run lights or other smaller load. Some inverters have built-in battery management.
Bonus would be having a backup system handy for when power goes out from a winter storm (keep food in fridge/freezer, etc).
Cheers! 👍💪✌
Do you have any dial indicators? You mention not using one, but they'll help you out a lot checking is surfaces are aligned or getting parts accurately position in the vice, or even getting the spindle lined up with a feature youbwant to work on
cant you just shim the vice at 10:30 ?
Yeah I should have, I even had some stout shimmage sitting right there ready to use, d'oh!
In Aus we have Hare and Forbes, same gear(some good, some crap, others so-so) ......drill vice is as you found, next to useless for anything precision. Like the one you now have although we tend to use the VK range, either 4,5,6,or 8". Mine is the VK-4....one thing, last machined item, I'd tend to have it spaced up on solid rather than sit in free air....tendency for it to move under machining.
Good stuff...like the machine...Cheers Jorgo .....latest from my shed ... czcams.com/video/AXDFKuWPxMg/video.html ....... czcams.com/video/NPtAYLX9uZM/video.html
Do you have any dial indicators? If you want ~precision~ a dial indiactor will help a lot, and the cheap ones will still do a reasonably good job for you
Rust on ball screws and linear rails is just terrible....Is it because of the high humidity levels in New Zealand??
We have a lot of fog in winter and there is no wall on the front of this garage, which can't be helping. But still I was surprised at how quickly the rust sprang up. Most of that was already there in the first few months, the cover seemed to really help slow it down a lot.
@@iforce2d By the way, I don't see any signs of rust on SBR linear shafts, looks like chromed coating helps a lot. I heard earlier that SBR have a better metal quality than Chinese made profile rails..
Wonder if blowing off the screws with compressed air after working with wood, or other materials that absorb moisture might help slow. Coating with oil tend to just attract stuff. (WD-40 is good option if decide on this route)
Couldn’t you just use some light on on the screws? Maybe wipe it off with ipa before use?
Mmmm... just a small flashlight should do the trick! 😜
(You've made a little typo there, Mark... you have an extra "on" and left out "oil". If you edit it, I'll remove this.)
Oh yah OIL is the word
Sure, I just didn't realize it would deteriorate so fast. Almost all the rust I showed appeared quite soon after building it, unfortunately there was a period of time early on where I didn't use it for a while and next time I looked the rust had sprung up very quickly. Since I started using the cover, as far as I can tell only the rust on the bottom ball screws progressed any further after that.