Why General Rildo is FAR Stronger Than You Thought!
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- Hey whats going on guys welcome back to another Video, and today I am explaining why General Rildo is Far Stronger Than You Thought! General Rildo is really the first main villain of GT and was quite strong. But he is actually quite stronger than even the likes of Buuhan!
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Just want to clarify one mistake. General Rildo is lowballed 320 billion times BASE Goku but I said it was SSJ3 Goku. Therefor, General Rildo is roughly 80 million times stronger than SSJ3 Goku from Buu saga. But anyways, what are your thoughts on this video? Let me know down below.
The video wasn't bad, there are some good arguments here, but some of it is very vague. Like you say early on that end of Z Goku>SS3 Goku. Your proof was Goku saying Uub might win the fight. And that is basically it. I disagree with this for a good reason-hub had no idea how to control his power. He had a lot of strength from being Buu reincarnate, sure, but Goku trains him to help him unlock this power. He says so himself. So when Uub is done training and fights Goku in base, then you can say that base Goku is DBZ SS3 level, because Uub has unlocked Majin Buu's power. Also using that 500 crap for super saiyan. More evidence points to 50, so we should use 50 unless more pops out. El manga legendario is not a bad source but it's an outlier here. And the power jumps you use....some are really unjustified. Like 5 years training=20 times stronger, then a couple months training=2 times stronger. It just doesn't make too much sense, y'know? It's not a bad video, but I'm just saying you should get more powerful evidence when making these. Just a tip.
So General Rildo is universal because he scaill to Base Vegito and possibly to Super Vegito
Even Pan is stronger than Fat Buu dont underestimate her
Goku transformed into ssj2 for a brief second in the fight with rildo
Broku72 hey broku. I am a big fan of your video . Keep up the good work broku
I feel like any GT villian gets hoed just cause they from the GT franchise
Not baby vegeta
Cuz Super fanboys will go apeshit if you even mention GT
@@c0rrupt3d_g0d2 or if you say that GT characters are stronger than what they put it at which is galaxy lvl and below vegito
Gt villains are far superior to super fight me if you don’t agree... the looks are way more dbz like
@@c0rrupt3d_g0d2 It's not the super fans, are you delusional? It's the GT fans who are so defensive about their show.
Agreed, GT characters are leagues above Z characters
Yup!
That was fast XD, so what are your thoughts on GT vs Super now after your debate with Chuck Broku?
Still gathering my thoughts. Not sure yet.
Broku72 I see, cause personally I have BoG Arc God Goku and SSJ4 Gogeta on a similar level of power
96montecarlo1 yeah why cant people accept that dbs characters are stronger its stated that ssjg is universal already is enough proof that it almost is as strong as ssj4 gogeta and omega shenron
GT has strong charaters but because it's GT everyone who doesn't like it (either because they hate it or their hopping on the bandwagon) will turn anything you say about it down and that's just sad.
That is what has happened a bit
@AFRO ANIME Trying to compare Super scaling anywhere is a losing battle because it's different for that show. I'll put it this way, Omega Shenron is as *dangerous* as Future Zamasu (the immortal one). Now this means two things. 1) SSJ Rage Trunks would beat the crap out of Omega in terms of raw might, but 2) remember, Future Zamasu won in the end, and Omega could too. Omega has all the powers of the Shadow Dragons, that technically includes an invincible wall of glass, redirecting energy blasts, slowly weakening opponents, regeneration, and a ton more. Compare that to Zamasu's immortality and kai powers (potara earrings, time rings, etc.), and you've got some automatically OP villains.
My point, we could argue all day how strong Omega is, but in Super's logic, the raw power level wouldn't matter that much (unless we want to say Omega is Jiren levels but let's not kid ourselves). However, as Future Zamasu proves (and now Moro in many respects), it's the OP abilities that matter, and Omega has a ton of those. Rildo does too come to think of it. You try and destroy all metal on a planet...how'd Rildo even die to one kamehameha again? I know Baby was in him, but why couldn't he regenerate?
thats why people should starting ruthless hate wave against Super, because THAT show deserves any hate
@@wolfgod6443 heh, are we SURE Rilldo is dead? :D Maybe they just stunned him long enough to escape? :D
@@marhawkman303 You would have a point, but we know Rildo died because he comes out of Hell for the Super 17 arc...Well, actually we don't *see* him leave Hell, so he could conveniently have travelled across the galaxy just in time to meet up with the returned Dr. Myuu. But if that was the case then Myuu could've built a Hell-fighter Rildo which would be much, much stronger than A17. On that note, where the heck is Baby? If Rildo and Myuu are in Hell then Baby would be too.
Thats what people don't get....10 years training...i know without God ki...but goku was soooo strong in GT and ssj4 goku is way more powerful then people think.
He actually had 20 years of training because after the ending of z they did another 10 year time skip
Kid Goku is actually weaker than adult Goku by half. It says so in so many sources. Also Goku was turned into a kid because the creator thought he would be too powerful and wanted to scale his power down
what if vegeta kept his tail
he could take on the entire ginyu force at the same time
Agree with everything in the video! Only thing i disagree with, is Mastered SSJ's multiplier. Its actually the same as a regular SSJ's. MSSJ is basically the saiyan adapting his body to the strain that SSJ form exerts on their body. And this method of training helped Goku and Gohan raise their base power level, which in turn resulted in a higher power level when they turned into a Super Saiyan. 500 times just doesn't make any sense 😂. Anyways, good video sir, good job!
I would recommend SethTheProgrammers video on the topic.
Broku72 Yeah. That made sense. It might be a x500 multiplier. Only if we trust that guide tho xD
That’s the thing. But the guide with the source material evidence it makes sense.
I kinda understand why is a x500 multiplier, but I still doubt it, Its somewhat vague
Do if “farmer with a shotgun” is FAR stronger then you think.
Lolb
Broku72 lol I’m serious he is 10000000 times stronger the goku from the Buu saga since he has the magical bullets of his shotguns and trained in the hbtc for 2 years so yea.👌🏼
Aj Weems Your proof that he went in the Time Chamber? And his magical bullets? I understand that he is greater than SSJB Vegito from the Raditz Saga in timeline 0186186073. But your argument just is not valid SMH.
TheDerpSSJ3 lol post hbtc he is past Beerus he just one shots
Well he was having a tougher time farming than keeping Goku vs Beerus from destroying the universe.
Good video broku
That is a very good scaling. Good job.
Thank you!
Broku72 no problem.
0:47 Oh yeah Buuhan is the strongest but Kid Buu don't fuck around. That's why Kid Buu will always be my favorite Dragon ball Character right before Ranger 17 and Beerus .
Xeno 2 Juneketsu i feel that, hes a mindless embodiment of pure destruction and malice. Too bad they took too long to get to this buu.
Thomas Houghton I'm just mad I probably won't get to see Kid Buu again unless I watch older videos. I love his care free destructive personality. I want to be a Majin because of the stuff he does. But then again Ssj4 and super Saiyan Berserk mastered won't be an option if I'm a Majin.
Xeno 2 Juneketsu you like ssj berserk that much? I feel that, well at least youd be able to absorb a saiyan therfore technically becoming a super saiyan majin. 😂
Thomas Houghton True but I then again it would be better to have my Xenoverse 2 Cac's the way I want them to be
Xeno 2 Juneketsu yeah i feel you, maybe in xenoverse 3 theyll go the roblox dragon ball game and add in everything and make up their own powerups for various races. Like who can say krillin cant get god ki? No one. He just doesnt have it. Xenoverse 3 will hopefully do wonders for our hopes
BROKU U GOTA BE ONE OF THE BEST I LUV HOW U REPLY ALOT KEEP IT UP AND DO A VID ABOUT IF VEGETA GOT SENT TO EARTH FIRST AS A BABY
Nice to know!!
*Nice!!!* Loved the video.
Great video
I know where you got the 500 SSJ multiplier from (A Great Seth video) but i do have issues with that video (ill go into more detail if you want me too)
The only problem with, is that Frieza was stated to be strongest in the universe multiple times through out the Frieza, but there again, i guess GT isn't cannon so i guess anything goes.
Vegeta said the Saiyans were the strongest race in the Universe, but later on it's shown 10 different characters way stronger then King Vegeta and any other Saiyan from Saiyan Saga and before that, so probably a retcon, also says that something is "canon" or not it's completely idiot, but okay, 3 years later, you might have already changed your mind.
Just bought the GT box set. I miss this show, and I wish they'd remake it or give it a Blu Ray release. They re-release and remaster Dbz every 5 years, GT should get the same treatment at least once. It doesn't deserve to be forgotten, but it'll probably never happen now that they're making Super.
0:00 I know. GT Goku said he's stronger than Buu. Then GT Goku beat him in his super Saiyan form because GT Goku never stop training since the end of Z
Do "Why Pan is FAR Stronger Than You Though!" please :)
Of course talking about GT Pan.
Some notable feats:
-Knocking down suppresed Rildo
-Kicking MetaRildo in neck
-Overpowering Dr Gero
-Overpowering Oceanus Shenron
-Beating Natt from Sigma Force
-Kicking infant Baby (who already has huge power)
I think she is at least as strong as Android 18 was in DBZ.
Hey Broku72 here’s a what if for u same time as Goku black but when Zamasu is travel long through timeline s he comes across one with Broly and instead takes his body IK Broly is t canon but with the skills u got it would be a fun video for u and us fans
Can you redo this video with the correct multipliers? I really like how you talk about GT and Super scaling
Broku I know you’re busy but when are you going to live stream in gaming channel, I really miss those streams. By the way I’ve been enjoying your past videos keep it up
I think I’m going to just do videos on that channel instead of streams, and then I’ll start a twitch channel. I will likely upload stream highlights to CZcams.
9:26 I don't know why, but that made me laugh!!!
The Sigma Force was confident they could win because they knew everything about Goku, not because they were stronger than Ludd. They're machines, they expect to counter everything because they have all the information to win, Goku himself says this was faulty logic and even held back to study them (thus proving his point as they couldn't adapt to his knowledge on them). I mean, it's POSSIBLE everything you said is accurate, but it can just as easily be taken the way I've described too. The way Goku and Dr. Myuu talk support my theory too. Why would Goku bring up Buu if Ludd and the Sigma Force are that much stronger than the majin? He might as well say Rildo is stronger than Nappa if that was the case. Myuu also states that Ludd was his ultimate creation and references it as the prototype to Baby (granted, he's kind of vague about that, it's more like all his work on Ludd was sacrificed for Baby's completion, it's a little odd). Now I'll totally believe Rildo is stronger than Ludd, Sigma Force, and Buu. He's treated as such and multiple times he's stated as their most serious enemy. However for Goku's base to be stronger than SSJ against Ludd in just a few months, and only using the Sigma Forces' confidence as evidence (which Goku proved to be bad logic on them), I don't think that's a safe bet. Heck, if Goku only beat Ludd by exposing a weakpoint, then couldn't it be assumed the Sigma Force were confident because they didn't have a weakpoint like that (and in turn people weaker than Goku could technically beat Ludd through that weakpoint)?
Rildo is a beast. Goku could not touch him in his Perfect Form. He'd have to go SSJ4 in order to clap back Rildo. And in the anime, Goku never beat him, only because Baby took control of Rildo sadly and basically made him lose against Goku, Trunks, Pan while they escaped. Just thinking about his Metal Mending and Liquification into Metal(Also Absorption to regenerate), and knowing the entire Planet M-2 is literally his play ground for Metal. Rildo is basically almost impossible to stop.
oh, and can I say, I don't believe at all that mastered ssj is a 500x multiplier, I highly doubt it, mostly because Gohan would destroy Cell in the Cell saga
Gohan was indeed stronger than Cell, he just didn't want to fight.
yes, yes, very true, buuut, even so, literally no one would be "scared" when Gohan was sent up to fight Cell, now would they?
dragonx115 Of course they would. Gohan doesn't like to fight, was suppressing himself the whole time and had no history. For the whole story until then Goku was always there to save everyone. Then they see Goku can't save them anymore, what do you think would happen? Of course they'd be scared, their “trump card” for all cases was out and everything that was left was a child with no history!
Hey broku what are you gonna do for 50k subs?
Not sure!
He's definitely stronger than Buuhan, Buutenks, Buucolo, Kid Buu or Super Buu Base
He's stronger than base Buu only.
Bro, can you do a video on how strong Broly or Omega Shenron would be if they trained for a year or two
3 years later.
It never ever was stated if the Shadow Dragons can actually train, and if they can, it's multiplier by training never ever was stated too.
rildo is one of the best villain in dbgt
General rildo is weak
Idk why people have a problem with Rildo being stronger then Boo, like it’s the next Saga after the Boo Saga so idk why people dislike that.
Here’s an example.
Master Roshi < (?) Tien Shinhan < King Piccolo < Piccolo Jr < Raditz < Nappa < Vegeta < Qui (misspelling) < Zarbon < Dadoria (misspelling) < Ginyu Force < Freeza < No.17, No.18 & No.16 as well as 1st Form Cell < 2nd Form Cell < Perfect Cell < Dabra < Mr.Boo < Super Boo < (all absorbed forms of Boo) > Chibi Boo.
There.
Vegeta is stronger then Qui in the saiyan saga
I got some thing’s wrong.
It just don't make sense of Rildo being stronger than Boo Gohan, and still being wreck by a Goku that is a equivalent to a Ssj3 who is weaker than normal suoer boo without absorbing nobody and in Ssj1 being equivalent to him at most. Do you see the lack of logic there?
@@arturorodri1123
Isn’t Hit stronger then Boo in all form’s?
Also it’s been like 15 year’s since the Boo Saga, there’s a video by Sayian Scholar’s video in the G.T character’s power.
@@rayzas4885
No, Zarbon said that Cui could've defeat Vegeta.
Broku
When you gonna do Kratos vs Thor ?
Isnt kid buu one of the weaker buus? Or is buuhan just the strongest
So did goku and uub train in the time chamber or did they just do regular training this is what we need to know
You're finally catching up
This is interesting
Hey broku do you have dokkan battle
I wish they kept the form as their new base in DBZ when Goku and Gohan stayed in SSJ.
*Good afternoon*
Can you collect your thoughts on Goku/Norse mythology, so you can make a long video on it or can you do what if Goku and the New Version Of Bruce banner Hulk had the ultimate showdown, better yet They send hulk into space and he ends up in Universe 7 earth
Maybe
General Rildo would destroy Buu in an instinct.
For anyone who doesn't believe MSSJ is a 500x multiplier, General Rildo is 32,000,000,000x Goku base or 8,000,000x SSJ Goku from DBZ Buu Saga of were going off of SSJ being 50x.
How is Gt Redux doing?
Kinda slowed down a bit. It will be delayed from what I originally said it would release.
Goku was actually put a curse on him by a witch that made em small again
4:18 Lord lube???? Haha just kiddin XD
The biggest problem with this video is thinking mastered ssj is 500x base
They should make general rildo, Bojack, cooler, and slug canon.
Idk if Masterd ssj is 500 times base form while ssj 3 (a greater form) is 400 times base form
Sord of reminds me of meta cooler General Rildo was badass
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i'm thinking of doing a midball pl list for gt and super. with ssj goku post god being a little stronger than ssjg goku, and rildo being above buuhan level. i won't go down base post god = ssjg or base rildo is vegito level.
I figured when he said he was as strong as but I I thought he was talking about fat buu
How’s your night
If you *highball Z* (I've been able go highball Z to where cell is galaxy level and with this new info about a 500 times boost between sagas I can now scale kid Buu to 2 billion times galaxy actually with that I can high ball base goku by the baby saga to near universal and MSSJ goku to universal+ (but remember this is a highball.))
and if base goku at the end of GT really is stronger than SSJ4 goku a bit before the end of GT
SSJ4 Gogeta might actually be a challenge for base or MSSJ super goku (or even stronger.)
*remember I'm high balling it*
Gt was really good
I've been trying to tell people this for years
Nice!
Rildo is stronger than any willan in dragon ball I wish he could be revived and turned good
Imagine Rildo in dragon ball sparking Zero ! 😮😮
suggesting this falls apart when you question why did goku not say the sigma force each who where stronger than boo? he never said anyone was stronger than boo UNTILL he met rildo please explain your reasoning as to why you think goku choose until rildo to comment on the power being higher than boo, who by this point would of been a push over to the likes of the sigma force according to you.
5:05 GT Goku preset 2 , Ssj4 Goku and Super sayian God Goku are the only Goku's I use in Xenoverse 2.
Xeno 2 Juneketsu the thing that annoys me about gt goku in xv2 is that he barely has any good strike supers and he's small so his combos have a tendency to drop although i wish they had the adult gt goku and end of z goku
TheHolyMakaveli What combo's drop? GT Goku preset 2 has no combo's that drop. He's height makes him drop out combo's. Not his combo's drop.
Xeno 2 Juneketsu when you are on the ground his full light combo drops everytime.
TheHolyMakaveli I do light heavy or just straight heavy combo with almost every Character I never do the light combo. Hit is the only Character I can think of that I use his light combo's for.
Rildo is so much stronger than MUI goku,awaken Jiren, and a full power Beerus. GT is after super. Right? Right?!
So True. *THIS MAN SPEAKS THE TRUTH*
edit: oh, I already commented on this. I learned the errors of my ways and have found out what this man speaks is the T R U T H
Pika Gamer lol no, gt...is not canon
And your point is? Dragon ball super is based off toriyama notes no manga
Rildo is stronger than any willan in dragon ball I wish he could be revived and turned good
No he could hold his own. But not win.
Can't forget that Base form Rildo overpowered GT Gohan who kept up his training and was more powerful than his ultimate form in base
Rildo never fought GT Gohan.
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@@GeneFOX70 Totally forgot about that fight. My bad. But that was not a more powerful Gohan. That was the Gohan that stopped training after Buu. Most likely he was much weaker than he was during the Buu Arc.
@@CosmicGoku529 Son Gohan: "He transformed when fighting with Goten after Goten had been taken over by Baby!! It seems that even in times of peace, he hasn't neglected his training. The differences in Gohan's facial expressions before and after transforming are the most intense out of any warrior!!"
Perfected super Saiyan is still 50x base. It’s been stated that the perfected form limits the stamina drain and allows better control. Perfected, not boosted.
Looks like a bit of a high ball...however I'd say that gohan at begining of gt is implied in show and in the files that base gohan is reletive to his mystic form. Then we add a year or two of training where goku in that time got low ball 10x stronger then rildo in this scale is 480,000x base buu saga goku.
I can argue that GT Goku could Beat Super Goku (Anime)
Oddly enough.......he can.
rildo that sounds nasty
This Mssj 500 times is becoming the new Madara=Nappa argument.
I've always thought when goku said base rildo was stronger than buy he was referring too fat buu because he was talking too pan and that was the only buu that she ever knew about too scale his power that supports goku being ss3 level an beyond in base because ss3 buy saga goku dominated fat buu like goku did rildo however even in his final form metal rildo he still seems weaker than ssj gt goku without his hacks helping him out in raw power is say he's probably somewhere between buutenks and buuhan which is still very stong and leauges above ss3 buu saga which makes sense him not being too op since he was a side villain that kind of in a way built up too Baby
What if Hercule was a Saiyan
Do You think ssj4 goku is stronger than super Saiyan blue ?
I’m pretty sure I got a 2 on my math
final X_X
never even heard of rildo in my entire life and he is stronger than buu?
Meta Rildo 1 shots ssj Vegito.
And a ssj3 vegito
What if yamcha was a saiyan?
Do you think end of z Goku could beat Buu Han?
Gray Leo Super timeline which it is
Buuhan stands no chance
Peter 1234 don't include super
Dia Sabah but we have to.... it’s canon end of timeline
Peter 1234 leave super out of this and only z
Dia Sabah the probably still a one shot because Goku trainee everyday for 10 years probably more since he had partners
I’m sure I’m not the only one. But why is Buu spelled like Boo? Is it because of subtitles? I only watched GT ON TOONIMI. I know I know
great I THOUGHT HE IS TRASH THANK FOR GIVING MORE INFORMATION'S NOTE:this video will not be easy on someone bad at maths
why are you using 500x for fpssj when nothing implies it is a bigger multiplier than the 50x for ssj. just because fpssj gohan>fpssj goku>50% ssj goku>ssj grade 2 vegeta, doesn't mean that fpssj is a bigger multipier. also that 500x is very vague as all the el manga legendario says is that trunks attains a power 10x greater than before. also trunks use ssj grade 3 to catch ssjb vegeta off guard. and trunks likely mastered super saiyan in that time between cell and goku black. better question is,is ssj grade 3 above ssj2 is raw power.
Your Wrong.
About the MSSJ Multiplier. MSSJ is at least between Ascended SSJ and Ultra SSJ. All it is, is a stronger SSJ that is calm and controlled.
Here’s my opinion on this.
I do believe Rildo is stronger then Boo (in all form’s in Z).
Because (for the most part) newer antagonist/villain’s introduced are more powerful then the last.
I mean that’s how it normally goes.
Like the threat level’s get’s higher and higher as the series goes on in D.B.
We got the rabbit guy (what’s his name?), that monster Pilaf, R.R & Mercenary Tao, King Piccoro/Piccolo, Piccoro/Piccoro Jr, Raditz, Nappa, Prince Vegeta, Freeza’s army, Freeza himself, then to the Android’s, Cell, Dabra and then Boo.
Plus movie villian’s too, Garlic Jr, Wheelo, Turles, Lord Slug, Coola, (Z) Broly ect ect.
You get my point?
I mean, it’s just the way it goes, while not alway’s the case (I think), it’s still how it goes for the most part.
Also off-topic, I think GrandTour is it’s own continuity that has O.G.D.B & D.B.Z (anime) + 12 Z movie’s and maybe some other thing’s.
I say this because G.T has some movie element’s like Coora cameo and Dragon Fist.
Not only that but in the movies, the character’s are stronger (I think).
In Turles movie, Kakkarotto/Gokou is stronger then 30,000 (I think), so I’m putting him at 40,000.
He was able to do King Kaio-Ken Fist x100 against Lord Slug.
He did the Dragon Fist against Hirugan (how you spell that thing’s name?).
S.S-J.3 (and maybe prior form’s) being stronger then Ultimate Gohan in the last movie (what was it called?).
So what I’m trying to say is, the character’s in G.T are based off stronger version’s of the Z character’s.
Ignore about how each movies and anime’s connect, that’s not important in this comment.
So here’s my scaling for early G.T and how much stronger the character’s are early on.
Base Kakkarotto/Gokou & Base Majin Prince Vegeta- 1
S.S-J.Grade.5 - 100
S.S-J.3 - 400
Mr.Boo - 320
Base Teen Gohan (Trained) - 1.5
Ultimate Teen Gohan - 1,500
Super Boo - 1,000
Super Boo (S.S-J.3 Gotenks & Piccoro/Piccolo Jr) - 2,500
Super Boo (3 Hybrid’s & Piccoro/Piccolo Jr) - 1,250
Base Vegerot/Vegetto - 1,200
Super Vegerot/Vegetto Grade 4 - 60,000
Super Vegerot/Vegetto Grade 5 - 120,000
Super Vegerot/Vegetto 3 - 480,000
Base Kakkartto/Gokou & Base Prince Vegeta (Wrath of the Drago) - 30
S.S-J.Grade.4 (Wrath of the Dragon)- 1,500
S.S-J.Grade.5 (Wrath of the Dragon) - 3,000
S.S-J.3 (Wrath of the Dragon) - 12,000
Base Kakkarotto/Gokou & Prince Vegeta (End of Z) - 12,000
S.S-J.Grade.5 (End of Z) - 1,200,000
S.S-J.3 (End of Z) - 4,800,000
Base Kakkarotto/Gokou (Black Star Saga) - 2,400,000
S.S-J.Grade.4 (Black Star Saga) - 120,000,000
KaMeHaMeHaWave - 300,000,000
S.S-J.Grade.5 (Black Star Saga) - 240,000,000
S.S-J.3 (Black Star Saga) - 960,000,000
Ledgic - 2,400,000
Lord Luud - 600,000,000
Sigma Force - 600,000,000
Super Mega Cannon Sigma - 1,800,000,000
Base Kakkarotto/Gokou (vs Machine Mutain Ninja Turtles) - 3,600,000,000
S.S-J.Grade.4 (vs Machine Mutain Ninja Turtles) - 180,000,000,000
S.S-J.Grade.5 (vs Machine Mutain Ninja Turtles) - 360,000,000,000
S.S-J.3 (vs Machine Mutain Ninja Turtles) - 1,440,000,000,000
Base Rildo - 3,500,000,000
Hyper Meta-Rildo - 178,500,000,000
Meta Rildo - 357,000,000,000
Here, it’s not accurate but still here.
Wat doesn't make sense is buu destroyed galaxies supposedly so how are there stronger robots in the universe and for what reason are they this even strong.how did they get this strong without being influenced by God's or kais
What if Goku used Super Kaioken against Cell?
He would've died, end of.
the only problem i see with this is in the super 17 saga how gohan took him down. It took him effort but he did it
Gohan did not beat Rildo. And how would that be a problem?
I looked it up you were right i guess i remembered it wrong. I guess technically uub defeated him
Also rewatching, I highly doubt buu saga base goku is anywhere near cell games mssj goku
Yeah i dont agree with any of these conclusions. But it was still an entertaining video
Here the true reason, dbz fans are a big fans of buu more then rilldo so in turn they don't want to believe the rilldo is stronger then buu, they believe buu is stronger because he more popular
Another thing, base vegito beating buuhan was anime filler.
Yes i grew
What if Goku Black turned good ?
What if Yamacha was good
Dragon ball happens.
Goku didn't get much stronger in those few months
He was just supressing his power all the time until his fight with fused Sigma Force.
Lyserg1260 no. Even a guide stated Luud was stronger. Also why would he hold back when Pan is in danger.
Idk, you might be right.
I didn't see that guide statement.
@@Broku72 Yeah.... the same Pan who saved Goku from Baby? sure, she's not as strong as he is.... but.... "less powerful" rather than weak.... and compared to GOKU.
What if future Gohan got ultra instinct against the andriods
Couldn't happen. Never got the training from Whis, and wouldn't be able to get the limit break anyway.
TheDerpSSJ3 ultra instinct is muscle memory doesn't have anything to do with power but I think future Gohan could do it because he would be on the brink of death exhausted and weakened I think he would be able to at least
No, he wouldn't. You don't get that he needs the training from an angel to go UI. Have you seen anyone who has not trained with an angel go UI? Exactly. So stop trying to prove he can.
That's because it's stated that it's a for not even the God's have it requires you to literally fight passed your abilities and capabilities to the verge of death
Oh my fucking god. Literally all the characters that use or have used UI have been trained by an angel to do so. Goku just broke his shell. Future Gohan couldn't do the same thing, due to the fact he hasn't been trained by an angel. Any character in the series that has UI has been trained by Whis, or any angel for that matter, or just know it because they're op [Zeno, Grand Priest...]
Ssj4 is the 3rd strongest form goku has next to ultra incstinct and mastered ultra incstinct
Why would goku get 400 times more powerful in 10 years on earth in a peaceful era??? Goku maybe got like 20 times more powerful in 7 years from cell saga to buu saga in another realm that took less toll on his body. People have a bad habit of over rating gt characters powers for reasons I don't get. Don't get me wrong general rildo is more powerful than buu, but I would rate it like this. Buuhan is stronger than base rildo, but after rildo powers up it's game over. I would estimate that rildos most powerful form is like 30-40 times buuhan, high ball.
I stand by the fact that dbs goku would not demolish gt goku
jalan alexander tell GT Goku to step up when his punches send shockwaves throughout the Macrocosm...
Someone obviously hasn’t watched the Broly movie... Goku and Broly get submerged in larva and is fine
I disagree with a few things in this video. I honestly don't think Uub is Buu level. Goku was most likely saying there is someone out there who has a lot of potential. If Goku was ss3 level at that point, then he could have went super saiyan and destroyed him or if he really needed it, kaioken. I doubt Goku's base got that much stronger throughout the 7 year timeskip because Goku was said to be only a little stronger than Frieza in BoG. It's possible that he got really strong during the 10 year timeskip, but nothing was confirmed and i'm not counting Super because Super isn't even a part of this. Goku said he's stronger than Buu, and if he was talking about Buuhan, he could have said he's stronger than Buu with the power of Gohan,Piccolo, and Gotenks. The strongest Buu that I think Goku could be talking about is Super Buu. If anyone can prove this wrong, please do.
Ikeai 2000 U realize gt a bog are different timelines right?
Glenn Rhee I'm well aware. I'm just saying it confirms that Goku didn't get that much stronger and nothing can prove that wrong.
The power scaling in GT is insane lol. Like i have a hard time comprehending how strong ADULT goku would be if he didnt get weakened by becoming a child.
He didn’t get weakened.
Broku72 nah dude, goku straight up says he got weaker because of his stamina issues. Obviously not by much though since he eats rildos booty for dinner
Guides state that he didn’t get any weaker only lost stamina and couldn’t go SSJ.
Broku72 Stamina Loss and not being able to go SSJ are signs that he got weaker. Powerwise, he is the same. But stamina and not being able to go SSJ hinders Kid Goku a lot.
Broku72 yeah what derp said is literally what i meant. Because his kid body is less durable he by default is weaker despite being able to output the same power, his body his weaker is what i meant. This would be a good debate wish i had a debate channel id love to talk to you about this
Okay. Goku Gt base, equal to a Z Goku Ssj3, who is far weaker than Super Boo withouth absorbing nobody. In Ssj1, maybe Gt Goku would be match for him (In the Chuzetzu 4 they say Gotenks base is stronger than the maximum powers of Goku and Vegeta), so maybe Goku is around the power of Gotenks.
By you saying that Rildo is stronger than BooGohan, would make literally no sense knowing that he was nothing to a Goku base who was equivalent to a Ssj3 from DbZ, who we know, if inferior to a Super Boo without absorbing nobody. By Goku transforming into Ssj1, he may be as strong as Super Boo, but still, far weaker than BooGotenks and far weaker than BooGohan.
To Goku Gt to become a match for BooGohan he needs to transform into a Ssj4. Also, when Goku Gt refers to Boo most likely is to Kid boo, not any other Boo.
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Finally someone who knows what they are talking about.
@@CosmicGoku529 my friend, I hate to inform you, but the lad here is far from correct
Oh lord the GT fanboys captured broku again😂😂😂
?!?! How is me making a video on an underrated character me fan boying.
Broku72 I'm just having laugh bro......Ku😂
Lol
Broku72 no but srsly good video though
What if Goku was teleported in Naruto universe after Buu saga
Why and how would that happen? The outcome would be all the Naruto characters die or are close to dying because of goku landing.
Don't worry in the Dragon Ball Universe there the namekian and the Earth Dragon Balls Goku and worry too much😎
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Yes, but you said the Naruto Universe. There are no dragon balls in the Naruto Universe.
What if Kirishima had gotten one for all? Invincible body and all mights strength???
Jose W. Velazquez Jeez good idea!
How would that even happen?? All Might hadn't met Kirishima until the battle course in UA
Kristian Nikolov It's a what if, just say all might met Kirishima before Deku (somehow) liked his guts and attitude and chose him. (Ignoring that Mirio is a much better choice).
Mirio phasing underground and using a detroit smash from underneath... damn
Gt...😢
Keep, in mind the Anmie and manga are different.
There's no indication that Buu saga has surpassed Frieza.
Nothing in the buu saga indicate that Goku in his Base is even one freiza level. And Goku and King Kai did not even deny Beerus's Statement.
Just because someone doesn’t deny a statement doesn’t mean it’s true. Goku was suppressed at that point. I know anime and manga are different. Most evidence point to Goku being stronger in base than Frieza. Like kaioshin being concerned with Pui Pui but Vegeta effortlessly one shots him. In 12 years Goku has more than an enough time to surpass Frieza in base form.
Broku72 The Supreme Kai was More Concerened about The Saiyans Beings Over their Heads And he was Never that credible
Broku72 Training For 12 Years Does not Indicate Goku Would be Powerful enough to kill Namek Frieza. Pui Pui is poor estimate.. the same villain that boosts about being able to withstand 10 times the gravity and He Assumed Vegeta Could not move or be Slowed Down at all. Lol.
Babadi and Shin Completly underestmated The Earthling.. Even Yamcha Would Stop Pui Pui. Lol
The 12 years of training does. If Goku in 1 year of “semi training” (he mainly worked for instant transmission technique and not battle power training) got so strong that he was far stronger than someone who one shouted someone who could kill his old self. SSj Goku namek < Mecha Frieza