2022 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X - Better Than The Tacoma...At Some Stuff
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- Would you take this Nissan Frontier Pro4X over a Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad?
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2004 was when the last gen Frontier debuted and I was 10 years old. But now, 18 years later, let’s see if Nissan has been able to bring a modern and competitive truck to fight against things like the tacoma, Ranger, and Colorado
Under the hood is Nissan’s 3.8L n/a V6, it’s a VQ engine and it’s 93% new for 2020.
This truck is new, but under the hood it’s not super modern..but that’s ok because it still makes 310hp and 281 lbft of torque….but most importantly to buyers, it’s simple and therefore RELIABLE
The 3.8L v6 actually makes segment-leading power, but it’s not something that I would consider “fast” - 0-60 is done in 7.5 seconds
Which is of course what you want when you’re towing up to 6700 lbs
Then I guess while we’re talking about truck stuff, yes that’s max towing and payload maxes out at just about 1600 lbs, and you can get a 6 foot bed with a king cab OR in Pro 4X like we have here you can only get crew cab with a 5 foot bed
generally the buyers in this class don’t want super complicated turbo or hybrid set-ups. They want their truck to turn on in the morning, do what they ask of it, turn off at night, and do it all again the next day
It’s still a body-on frame 4x4 pickup with a ladder chassis, but the engine likes to rev freely, the 9 speed transmission is a Mercedes design built by Jatco and feels right at home here
And the ride is pretty decent. In the Tacoma, with an empty bed, you’ll get a good amount of rear axle shutter over small to medium bumps, but the ride here is pretty dialed in
Now, with that said, this Pro4x has bilstein shocks and this may be unpopular, but I’ve never met a Bilstein on a truck that I liked…However, it’s still better than the taco
ACP, AA (not wireless)
8 inch screen or 9 inch
Cameras are terrible
At least you have 360 cam (auto in 4lo) they call it their off road mode
Heated seats
Heated wheel
lots of hard buttons
Wireless charger
Rear seats are decent sized
Storage under them
Rear window (manual)
Sunroof
Dope seats?
Hexagon stitch (lambo)
Semi-digital cluster (7 inch)
Feel more spacious/comfortable?
120v in the back seat along with USB and USBc
LKA, lane departure, but pro pilot is not available
One thing we have the get out of the way right away is that this is not a TRD Pro competitor. Yes, this is the most off-road ready Frontier you can get from the factory, but it actually competes closest to the TRD-Offroad tacoma. Maybe in the future we’ll get something like a Frontier NISMO-4X, but with that out of the way let’s head into the forest to see what this thing can do.
There actually isn’t a lot of gadgets to fiddle with in this Frontier. In the tacoma you get things like A-Trac and Multi-terrain select, but with this Frontier I’’m just gunna lock up the rear diff and hope for traction
When you go into 4Lo the 360 cameras automatically come on like they would in a Tacoma and the resolution is about just as bad as it was in the Tacoma too, but at least you can see all around you
With the smaller size, in this forested section the snow is really the hardest obstacle to deal with, but with 4-lo on and the rear locked traction wasn’t an issue.
We’re going to do a little climbing now, again nothing that will be super challenge for the truck, but with the snow it might be a little less straight forward
Again, diff locked, this time in 4-Hi, and we’re just going to send it up this hill
And now at the top, we’re going to test out the hill descent feature. With the 4x4 system engaged, rear diff locked, and hill descent on, that’s literally all of the off-road aids
And then we’ll turn hill descent off because we’re going to approach the second, more challenging hill.
And this is probably a good time to share the numbers
Approach: 32.3
Breakover: 19.6
Departure: 23 (cuz of bed overhang)
Ground clearance:9.5 inches (less with the rock rails*)
We’ve also got read-outs in our gauge cluster that show our pitch and roll
Now, we do have Bilstein dampers which are tuned for this sort of thing with greater compression and stroke
It’s still nice to have the 360 cameras on something like this to see exactly where my wheels are
We had some nice flex out on these with the Bronco, but we have to be more careful with this because it’s got less clearance and more overhangs past the axles to hit
I"ve owned 3 Nissan trucks very reliable my 1st one had over 400,000 on it.. have over 200,000 on my 07 Frontier love it still runs like new!!!
Hoping to be like you . 22 sv with 3900 right now .
Stop the cap
@@korbendallas2741 stop being such a hater
@@jonlosito2004 for real. No cap my 92 pathfinder had 225k on it and still super reliable even with the vg30. Some issues with airflow sensor and the door handles were busted but it got me to work and back every day still.
I've owned 2 Frontiers and loved them both. It's always been the best midsize truck, overall, in my opinion. I also owned a 2020 Tacoma TRD Offroad and I absolutely hated it. I fell for the fanboy hype, but it was the most annoying and uncomfortable vehicle to drive that I've ever owned. My one gripe about this new design is the fact that Nissan still didn't fix the massive turning radius on this truck. That has always been my biggest annoyance with the Frontier. I'm still planning on buying a Prto4X this fall. For my money, the Frontier remains the top choice in the segment.
The steps on the side rail can be removed to gain some ground clearance. Then they become functional slider rails. Clever design imo
Thank you for being the first YT channel probably ever to acknowledge that the Pro4X competes with the Tacoma TRD Offroad, NOT, the TRD Pro. People think they do because they both have "Pro" in the name, and it creates a false comparison, as they aren't designed to be direct competitors in the same league.
Poor tacina trd pro fan boy is upset that someone would compare it to a Nissan frontier pro4x.
@@harolddenton6031 mmm no. I'm actually a Pro4x fan.
Just test drove a SV. Very nice truck. Rides great and comfortable. Transmission seamed flawless. Couldn't tell when it was downshifting through all the gears. I'm impressed
I have owned GM trucks the last 30 years. After I drove the Frontier Pro 4x, it check all the boxes. This is one on road comfortable truck. The seats are far ahead of Colorado/Canyon, Ranger. Why spend 42k on a truck with horrible seats and one that is uncomfortable.
Good job Nissan, you converted me!
No kidding. Compromises are one thing. But some people basically don't fit in a tacoma. I still like the seats in my 01 xterra, and i hear the new ones in the frontier are lightyears ahead.
Great honest review. I'd get one over a Taco anyday. Perhaps Nissan engineers would bring back a manual transmission for more off-road enthusiasts 🙏🏽
i would assume Nissan looked at manual sales numbers and figured it wasn't worth it to develop a manual for the 2022. it's pretty much exactly the same underneath as the previous truck minus some updated crash stuff on the frame and a rear sway bar.
I am with you on this
I have a 2016 Six speed manual ,Manuals went out in 2019
I always wanted a 4 cylinder 4X4 Tacoma, how even being short; the head room is too low. For bid a roll over.
Spot on! The lack of a manual is an absolute deal breaker...
You're comment about it being reliable like an appliance is why I have a 2010 Pro4X. It just keeps running. Glad to hear they're keeping these traits, as in anther 3-4 years will be looking to get another Frontier. I need a solid off road /work truck w/o all the frills that can also tow. And I DON'T want a turbo. Means longer engine life for starters.
My son bought a 2022 SV and I got a chance to drive it. Really enjoyed it. Also like the fact they kept the ladder frame construction.
Every now and then you pick up something that you can feel and see is damn near perfect, for me it was my grandfathers Winchester 94, I think Nissan nailed it with this model in the same way.
I own a 2023 Pro 4x and have added several accessories for off roading…2.5” lift, KO2 33” wheels, 4 front cube lights in the lower grill. Your review is one of the best and straightforward I’ve watched. Cheers.
Nice review. I really like this truck. But the issue for me, similar to other vehicles, is that I’d want the Pro4x for the off road gear and appearance, but they only offer it with a short bed. I like to use my truck for camping and I’m a tall guy, I sleep in the bed. I wouldn’t fit in a 5’ bed. I wish the Pro4x was able to be optioned with a 6’ bed. It’s also more useable for hauling/moving etc.
I have a 2014 Frontier SL, and I use it for camping as well. I bought a Guide Gear shortbed truck tent and it fits well with the gate down. One suggestion for you taller guys, bring along something such as a sturdy piece of wood (like a 4' x 8' piece of 1-2" thick plywood) and place this down on the bed before you set up camp. It makes the sleeping surface smoother, and it give you tall guys a little bit of an extension.
exactly! I have the 03 pre pro4x with the long bed. works great. want to buy a new pro4x but need the long bed. here's hoping for updates this September🙏. by the way, my 2003 frontier cc, supercharged 4x4 long bed still works perfect. but it's a 4 speed. time for me to step up to the new model but waiting for a pro4x long bed
I’ve always liked the Frontier and Tacoma. I eventually settled on a 13’ Tacoma V6 and while I liked it it wasn’t what I truly wanted. So I traded it in for a 22’ Frontier. And it’s exactly what I want. As soon as this body style came out I knew it was for me.
Lifted my PRO 4X 2.5 inches and put 33 inch KO2's on it and it is still cheaper than a TRD offroad and can go more places!
Nice!
I bought two 2021 Tacoma TRD offroads. First truck was the base Trd off road and it was 39k. It got wrecked by a drunk driver and insurance paid 41k for it. Cant beat that toyota value. My second truck was a Trd offroad premium. Has everything minus the 360 cam and cost 44k. Anything more expensive than this truck is a trd pro at closer to 50k.
How much was your truck????
I love my 2024 pro4x leather , sun roof , in red alert ! Fantastic mid size truck ! I come from a lifted Jeep Rubicon , if you do a lot of off roading get a Jeep . I bought the pro4x for towing a tracker bass boat and occasional snow driving. I will say on road the Frontier is awesome. Again i love it !
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I just bought my 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x yesterday! Thanks for hyping me up and showing how great of a truck this is! Can’t wait to take to out on some trails this weekend!
I got one, and I thought the same thing about the side steps, if you actually look at this model the height is a problem, you still need to give it a 2 inch lift, compared to the older version, I used to have the diesel, and the last one is a bit higher, and power wise I believe the diesel is a way better truck, if they made a diesel version of this pro4x I would definitely buy it again
Just got a 22 sv king cab with the same step, it does come off but it is perfect for me like it is, I have a prosthetic leg and the step makes getting in and out one of the easiest I've had, my wife also likes it for getting in and out, that's what steps are really for. I drove the Toyota too and the frontier is more comfortable and easier for us, and I just like it better, I just bought what I wanted instead of what someone thought was better.
hey guys, the rock rail steps are removable, with still retaining the actual rail, also the same thing is found on Toyota's.
Why does this work of art of a video not have more upvotes??!!!
How bout just take the steps off of the rails as advertised by Nissan from the start. And finally someone actually acknowledged the fact that this truck ISN'T a TRD pro equivalent thank you
The side rock rail steps can be unscrewed off road & left on for on road for girlfriend mom kids etc also nismo has upgraded adjustable Bilstein shocks that can be used for leveling & more functional off road use
the Nismo shocks are simply 6112/5160s that have the Nismo logo on them.
if you buy and are unhappy with height, simply do the titan swap suspension mod and long travel your Frontier with factory parts.
say whaaaat. that sounds awesome haha. where can I see info on that
I have a 2022 SV with the Rough country leveling coil overs and upgrades shocks. I also put on the Mickey Thompson Baja boss tires with some custom fuel wheels. I love the truck, super smooth, quite go anywhere. Only thing I dont love is the turning radius is not great, but otherwise the thing is a 10!
If they had made this in a manual trans it def would have made my decision a lot harder... but in the end of the day, I chose Tacoma due to the manual... But Nissan did a great job on the new Frontier for sure...
Good review. My 2011 4x4 Tacoma was rear ended and totalled recently. I think I'll be getting this frontier next.
Trucks amazing!! It now outsells all midsize trucks except being a close second to Tacoma....impressive
Picking one up in a couple weeks. Very excited
Nissan would be a fool not to revivie Xterra based on this truck.
BRING ANOTHER 4RUNNER FOGHTER
Agreed
They side steps are designed to be removed, leaving just the rails for offroading. I can't believe you guys didn't know that.
I'm really liking this Nissan Pro 4X!
Once I get confirmation there is no cylinder disable I’m buying one. No auto start/stop, a drive chain instead of a belt, direct injection…this truck has everything I want and nothing I don’t. Like you said “gimmicky”, that is what all the turbo, cylinder disable, auto start/stop are. They do little to save gas/emissions and do more harm to the engine reliability and longevity. More waste in the long run.
The steps are removable. Once remove, it leaves just a rail. The steps are for people that don’t off-road.
good to know, im about to buy a Pro 4x
@@JoseVargas-mn1ek you just unscrew the bolts on each end, remove step and put the bolts back.
... but are the rails stable enough to actually be rock sliders ? ...
@@Baked13 No, not true rock sliders. You couldn’t rest the vehicle’s weight on them. But, I suspect they will take some medium duty smacks
Thanks for the best video on the Pro4X I've seen so far.
🙏
The steps are removable so that it just leaves the steal rock rails, just so u know, that’s the poi u have the step when ur daily driving and for off roading u remove the steps from the rails
... at 16:45 you say you're in 4 high with dif lock on , is this possible ? I thought you had to be in 4 Lo to engage the dif lock , please explain ... ty.
For me, I went with Nissan. Toyota wanted 20k more than the new frontier pro 4X. For 20k, I can add on to my frontier, making it my own. 45k out the door price vs 65k MSRP is what I was presented with.
How much down-payment did you put for the pro 4x?
@@818Vallero a grand.
@@Kusgan4x4 ohh nice not too bad,my 96 Tacoma finally shit on me and this pro4x looking nice ,thanks for responding 👌
@@Kusgan4x4 another question ,what did your monthly payments come to ? I know everyone's will be different..my credit is in the low 700s
@@818Vallero mine is high $600+ now make sure you bank with a credit union. The dealer will run your credit to multiple banks. Asked to see your options because they will just bring you one option. Are you going for the Pro 4X?
I've seen many reviews of this truck...as I'm interested in buying a new truck. always the old/new truck...the question I always ask is, in today's market why risk new? chip shortages, lunatic truckers, labor overworked and shortages too, factories shutting down...maybe a fresh old vehicle is the way to go.
And it is made in Canton ms
@@eriklambert3809 #CantonPride #NissanEmployee
@@pk386 I do both Nissan Smyrna and Canton lol. Paint shop materials
Nissan if you're listening fix the turning radius issue, and offer a long bed version on pro 4x, maybe front locker option, and or more selection like mts, higher quality bilstein shocks allow for more clearance of approach,departure, and break over. Last but not least allow for more clearance in the wheel wells for bigger tires option. Do this in the next couple years with this gen 3 frontier. I guarantee you will probably take back your spot of the #1 best selling mid size trucks. Otherwise toyota toyota will just do minimal upgrades and still continue to be the best.
Amazing music tone
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport. I am thinking about trading it in for a PRO4X. I don't really like my seats and the transmission isn't great.
I really liked the pro4x especially for on road driving
If it has a step sticking out it is not a rock rail.
Thanks for the review, I bought the truck now where do I get the water bottle?
I have the new pro 4x, best mid size truck hands down. Tacoma can suck it. My only knock is the weak tires they put on it stock. Also, all that tech out of the box but the back window is manual…..
These are really cool. I went with the Tacoma though because of the manual trans option, or else it would have been a very tough decision.
I disagree, I believe this is a direct competitor to the trd pro. With the better drivetrain, it makes me consider the frontier even more than the Toyota.
Seems like the right tool and 8 bolts later you can take those steps off and have a rocker. I disagree this isn’t a direct competitor to the Tacoma TRD. I’m in the market for a midsize truck and Toyota didn’t win.
Less luxurious technologies , the better.
I wish they would fix the terrible turning radius on their trucks. My Silverado is much less.
Well done 👍!
Max towing for a pro4x is 6180 lbs, not 6700, payload is 1220 NOT 1600 lbs. Yes other have higher tow and payloads but you are showing off a Pro-4x. If a spotter was required for any of the traveling done on this video it would be embarrassing. Rear locker engaged on that road? WHY? At the most, 4LO. Either this BS is used for dramatics or drivers are way too under experienced.
Terrific review! Great truck!
Frontier all day baby
I've had both Toyota and Nissan trucks. I like both but was a little surprised how much the new frontier body style copied the current Tacoma. I mean the front clip is such a rip off especially the narrow headlights. Come on Nissan you could have at least come out with something original.
The frontier is simply a reminiscent of 'The great Nissan Hard body' of old. Shine your eyes bro.
Nissans body style has always been perculiar cos other manufacturers always draw cues from Nissan.
I often wonder why these guys knock everything, like the motor, do you expect a new motor every year??, crazy,n not everyone drives in the bush,.. just silly
does it have a brake hold when you stop? im guessing it doesnt, probably just simple truck stuff
I love this truck but WTF? Same mpg as a full size????
Nice Editing! 👍🏻🔥
Thank you 🙏
I like it doesnt have a turbo ill take less mpg but a v6 no turbo in a midsize versus a 4 cylinder turbo
After looking at the rails looks like you can take off the step looks like screws or bolts and just make them in to rails instead
if it was 10k cheaper i would say yes..
I really like the Frontier
You can remove the steps, then it'll just act as rock sliders
Damm I should of got the frontier instead of the Titan pro4x it’s probably more affordable
We ignoring the fact there was a dent in the driver's side door in some parts of the video and not in other parts?
It was snowing and someone ran into the frontier before we shot rollers
The Nissan is comfortable, the Taco you sit on the floor, very uncomfortable and no room in the cab for big tall guys.
Correct
Facts
Love this truck
Mitsubishi and Nissan tend to make pick up trucks light. it drives like a sedan and really comfortable. but not a workhorse for hauling
As long as the strawberry milkshake of death doesn't show up. It better have a proper transmission cooler.
I thought that only happened on the 3rd gen 4runner?
that problem was taken care of by Nissan in 2009. 2010 and up will not have SMOD issues.
Newer truck on the market and it doesnt even have telescoping steering wheel or offroad driving modes like terrain select (even the ford maverick has it and its not even a real truck). This is pretty much a 2000s truck tech with new skin. Nothing about it stands out above the class, its just mediocre. The competition is already coming out with redesigns while this design is ancient and will not do well with the competition coming within the coming year
anyone know of a hack to make the apple carplay wireless?
Nice review, sounds unbiase,, 👌
... Wait , you can still get a King cab with a 6' bed ??? ...
Yep. Driven one. Definitely sweet
They said not in pro4x , but mine is a king cab sv, only 2 weeks and haven't found anything I don't like about it .
I live in NJ within 25 miles of five Nissan dealerships and travel over a hundred miles a day. I have yet to see one of these trucks on the road. I see them sitting in the stealerships. Nobody is paying their ridiculous 10,000 markups. Especially since Nissan overshot the MSRP by thousands. They shot themselves in the foot. Now that several months went by and the good reviewers are saying it's an outdated basic midsized pickup without anything special to offer, they are going to sit in dealerships indefinitely. I say let these creeps look at them everyday, they deserve what they get for trying to take advantage of people. Believe me people will remember them when times are better 😉
Did you guys test the front locker? Did you engage the rear locker in 2HI and 4HI, to have some off road fun?
No front locker on this truck but we tested everything it had!
The steps are removeable from the rub rail. Thats why the allen head bolts are there
Right, but we’re not supposed to remove accessories from a press car
@@dwnshft Then you should have mentioned during the review that the steps were removable instead of telling people to delete them entirely from the buildsheet.
@@f1y7rap not really sure why you’d pay for an accessory you’re going to remove…🤔
@@dwnshft It's part of the Pro4X package, yes? Unless the rub rails are made of tinfoil you'd be paying soemone to remove them for you. From what I have seen of them they are sufficient to prevent damage from light hits, breakover angle gravel, and similar.
Would I trust them for hardcore wheeling or as a jacking point? No. But then if you are going to that extreme you will run DOM tubing bolted or welded to the frame and steel front&rear bumpers.
In the 2nd gen Frontier and Xterra P4X usually arrived with steprails that were thin as tissuepaper, bolted to the rocker only in 3 places with 6 M8 studs and hung down 4-6 inches.
These are tucked up tight to the rocker more like Jeep has done with their rocker protection for near a decade.
But I go whit trd pro look awesome and I don’t have never problem whit bad boy
bu the one in your prof pic is voodoo blueeeeeee
Yes I love it because no more truck now but Nissan good too
keep doing it boys
Thanks for the love 🙏
I'm almost stuck
There is a dent on the drivers door
Perfect Nissan.
There are more countries than the just the US 🙄 you can get it in long bed or short box. Dependent upon residence
wait...more countries?...that doesn't sound right
Giant dent on the drivers door?
We need nissan frontier pro4x nismo R lifited with kicker premium audio system and gtr nismo engine in it with nismo aftermarket parts in it
That would be wild 👀
I wish this came with more fake vents like the Tacoma
😂
BTW, the steps are an option on the new 4X. and I agree. They are stupid. Give me a real rock slider.
Dude complaining about the steps when they are easily removable. ...smfh
Some of you reviewers complain about the simplest things.
You can’t remove or modify things on a press vehicle. We should have stated that they can be removed but we can’t remove them
Very nice Pickup car/
Great video but you gotta lose that music, can’t make out what you’re saying. The tones of the tunes and the tone of your voice are too similar. Repost without tunes and I’ll be able to hear what you have to say
Will bring the levels down so not distracting. Thanks for watching 👍
The worst truck I ever had... can't go over 70mph, a terrible whistle will blow your mind during long trips, many recall opened and no available parts to replace, can't park it when 4x4 is ON.
Cowl was replaced, dealership refuses to test the car over 55mph so they are not even able to try to fix it. I recorded some videos to show them but, they say that they are not able to identify the source. Nissan costumer affair also deny to take any action as they don't "actually" fix anything. Trash vehicle with the worst manufacture service ever
I was actually considering this price wise over the tacoma but then I heard the "Jatco" made transmission.
Is there any company out there that has a midsized truck with great power?
Each just LS swap haha
the VK V8 from the titan will drop into the frontier. just have to get a company like Driven Desire to build you an engine harness
You need a off Road test....not this🤷
Driver's seat is crap. Bring back the old one.
I recently purchased a 2022 pro 4x.
Cloth seats
No wireless charging
No heated seats (assume only comes with leather)
And no 360 camera view. Love my frontier and don’t regret it but after seeing every frontier have these amenities did I get bamboozled? Haha or is it just the “premium package”?
Nope. All of those things will break at some point.
@@eriklambert3809 yea after 20 years
Pro4x should have heated seats and heated steering wheel. Luxury only adds leather, moonroof, sound system etc
@@D41Pat yeah mine didn’t come with heated seats or wheel
@@D41Pat I’m sure it can be an “add on”?
It's been a long time since I was in the 4th grade. Who is this "we" you speak of?
Me and Paolo
Make an Xterra out of it ...
lost me at jacko tranny if theer was manual id be in one today to bad no ones put manuals in there trucks an suvs auto suck be cause there so boring all of em
Go to your local Nissan dealership, I'm sure they'll change your mind about this truck. It already has a grossly overpriced MSRP, if that doesn't sway you the stealerships are adding a 10,000 markup on top of that. This is a first year model made in America, good luck with that. It leaves a lot to be desired at a fair price but you would be a total fool to throw several thousands of dollars into a salesman's pocket, for what amounts to be a basic midsized pickup. I was interested in purchasing it but decided not to feel like an idiot and get robbed.
I just bought a fully loaded (everything) for 46k at the dealership. Seams reasonable to me. Maybe your dealership is pulling shenanigans? The average vehicle price across the board in 2022 is approximately 45-47k currently.
@@someguy8498 You're what's known in Brooklyn as a beanshooter.
@@tommycasidy3031 sorry to disappoint, but it happened last Friday. I did add a 3” lift,rims,tires,running board package that added another 5k. It looks fantastic. :) Note: I’m sure the northeast is a bit more expensive. Search for a 2022 Nissan Frontier for sale in Reno, Nv.
La Nissan Frontier le copio mucho el diseño ala tacoma 😂😂😂 pero seve perra la Nissan 😂😂