when the audience claps off beat
Vložit
- čas přidán 20. 07. 2022
- Download transcriptions at georgecolliermusic.com and check out the Discord!: / discord
Original video: • Tim Minchin - Dark Sid...
Performed by: Tim Minchin
Piece: Dark Side
Transcribed by: Tony Williams
faq:
Q: how are you related to jacob collier? / A: i'm not, we just have the same last name
Q: how do you transcribe? / A: i use musescore for notation and 'Transcribe!' for beat marking, slowing down etc
Q: do you have perfect pitch? / A: no
Q: where can i suggest videos? / A: / discord
Q: what music do you listen to? A: open.spotify.com/playlist/0zP...
Q: why are some videos not transcribed by you? / A: sometimes other people submit transcriptions, most are commissioned from others who can do a better job than i can. i want to make sure you see the best transcriptions possible! - Hudba
probably the most requested transcription in this channel’s history
Naturally…
worth
I contributed to this onslaught. Thank you!
This must have been hell to transcribe.
@@AlecArmbruster Do you know if it is done by ear, or does he use some kind of computer program to help?
Tried playing this following this sheet music, but my audience was my dad and I criticised his rhythmic incompetence.. I will miss my piano
Comment Of The Day!!
What I'm amazed at is that you even tried playing it
Hahahaha well crafted
At least you still got both of your legs and your wife
Your dad? Or do you mean your dead? I couldn‘t critizise my Dad! He was mandatory for me.
I'd like to mention that this is an 11 minute performance and he's shredding at the end of a 2 hour performance. Dude's a legend.
I wonder why he sort of... stopped. Went on to do a show, some broadway etc. But basically, calmed down a lot.
@@kaspartambur Could be he felt tired or overwhelmed. Better to take a break than breaking down.
@@kaspartambur looked into and basically he decided fame would ultimately be bad for him. There's an article from 2021 where he goes into extensive detail about why he decided not to continue comedy.
@@kaspartambur I watched him do a polka cover of Bad Guy by Billie Eilish a couple of months ago, but I can't tell if that means things are going good or not lol
Who is he?
Love the energy of the audience at the end like: "nah g I'm never gonna be off beat ever again" **claps aggressively**
The audience redemption story. His dope playing imbued them with musical capability.
It's my favorite part of this whole performance. So much intense energy.
I hate to ask, but what is this pianist’s name?
@@iamhorse7136 Tim Minchin. Enjoy!
@@skriisi thank you
@@skriisi thank you! I also didn't know
Now I kind of want to see what would happen if you gave a raw transcription like this to a classical pianist that had never heard the original. Like it'd just be interesting to see how they'd end up playing it after learning it
Like Tom Brier did? ;'(
@@hnry841 Tom Brier wasn't a classical pianist but man, his sight reading skills were insane. I'm glad he left us a legacy on CZcams.
A good classical pianist should have absolutely no problem sight-reading this.
@@marcossidoruk8033 lmao
@@marcossidoruk8033 its not about whether they could or couldn't, it's about it being interesting to play blues from a classical point of view. It has nothing to do with sight-reading
The funniest thing about doing a transcription of Tim Minchin is that Tim wouldn't be able to read it.
Actually? I ask out curiousity, he really does all that without understanding the sheet notes?
@@Trisha_an_Artist no one thinks sheet music while improvising like that
@@Trisha_an_Artist he may have learned since, but in a past interview he admitted to not being able to read sheet music.
@@Trisha_an_Artist Yep Tim can't read music, he had to hire someone to transcribe the two musicals he wrote so other musicians could actually play them lol
Tim doesn't do dots.
This is one of those moments were the audience thinks they are helping, when they are just making it rythmically harder for the performer
@Vanellope go spam somewhere else.
is that ever not the case tbh? even a rock band is going to prefer to trust the drummer over the wisdom of the crowds lol.
I don’t think audiences clap because they think they’re helping, I think they’re just enjoying the music, it’s the same instinct that makes you nod your head or tap your and they just don’t know any better. Maybe it’s like singing along too, when you like music you want to join in some little way, they’re feeling the music
@@scoobydoobielll5632 Exactly, but unless your at a Jacob Collier concert, unfortunately not everybody is a musician. So when they clap some of them are off-beat.
That sort of thing is why my former choir had an announced rule not to clap during our songs LOL
I can’t even imagine the torture this would’ve been to transcribe. Amazing!
Well it took less time than the amount of time the pedal was held down so can’t have been that hard
It isn’t done with a computer?
@@YogSoth George Collier does all the transcribing on this channel himself, that's kinda the whole thing.
@@KEVBOYMUSIC This piece in specific wasn't transcibed by George. In the description says that Tony Williams has transcibed this one
@@YogSoth Kinda, yes it's done IN a computer music writing software tool such as Sibelius or MuseScore, but it's all handmade just by very close listening, very similarly to listening words in a second language and then translating it back to your primary language
“You’re off beat, wicked”
That's not what he says...
He says "Oh yeah, off beat, wicked..."
"I just wanted to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you."
@@Flashbax7 The Australian vernacular is something else
@@IsiahTomas Wasn't expecting a Leslie Nielsen reference down here
@@vangledosh no one expects the spanish leslie nielsen!
This man is going insane in the best way possible
I have to learn this power
it's called playing the piano for a very long time
Not from a jedi
I think it's called methamphetamines
Tim Minchin, he is great. This is from "Dark Side"
You can't. You can merely adopt the insanity. ;-)
2:26 "Hold the sustenuto pedal longer than it took to write this transcription"
This is why I subbed to this channel
*Sustenuto
The sustenuto pedal sustains only the keys that were down when you pressed it. It's quite handy cause it means you can sustain some notes and not others, like Tim does here. Most people don't even know it exists, cause it rarely feautres on upright pianos, and most people have never played on a grand piano.
EDIT: I kept thinking about this when trying to sleep last night. It's really spelled _sostenuto,_ but George has accidentally written _sustenuto._
@@ze_rubenator *SUS*tenuto??? 😳😳😳😳
How is it possible that you can hear the bass with the sustenuto so long? Does the melody keep it vibrating?
Imagine pulling an absolute banger of an 11 minute solo after a 2 hour show and having the composure to shit on the audience's rhythm while you do it. Amazing.
I’m just… astonished that he managed to make comedy with no fucking lyrics
absolute genius
If you enjoy that, you’d probably like Victor Borge’s comedy style! He was a performer from the 40s-90s, and quite a good pianist!
nah he said yiippeeee
I don't see what's so funny though? Playing the same thing in higher and higher octaves?
I believe surprising bizarre change of theme out of nowhere can be funny. This wasn't it for me either, its just spamming arpeggios and referencing songs which can be fun but not that unexpected. The pace was clear, making it a nuts solo but the only thing funny was him saying something.
@@F0nkyNinja Yes
To be fair to the audience, the time delay for a huge venue makes it’s difficult to clap ‘in time’, which is why orchestras have conductors to provide visual reference.
We learned in high school that sound has a delay of like 1 second per every 50 feet or so. So depending on the size of a venue sound can be 2-3 seconds behind the visual cue if you’re only using your ear. But as a musician, I don’t understand how someone could even understand why the audience chooses to clap like they do during sets like this. “I’m helping” is what I imagine the thought process to be.
@@jeremy3705 i’m not sure if i’m just not understanding, but the speed of sound is definitely faster than 50 feet per second. is there a difference in the hall?
@@jeremy3705 The speed of sound is ~343 m/s at 20° C in dry air @ sea level; significantly faster than 50 ft/s.
@@themagicducc2777 definitely a misunderstanding. I’m saying there’s a delay between what you see and what you hear. That’s why marching bands have a conductor to visually show you the tempo. If marching bands were listening to each other and basing their tempo and timing off of sound there would be roughly 4 or 5 different segments starting and stopping at different times. And a football field is sized enough that sounds travel speed is still faster than the fields length. Watch a video of someone shooting a gun at a gong from like 50 yards. You’ll see the gong move then like 2 seconds later you’ll hear the peak of the sound waves. Roughly 75 feet displacement in sound and motion. While sound may be fast, light is faster lol
My guy, as a musician, the conductor isn’t the one keeping time, tempo and rhythm is a collaborative effort between all members, the conductors role is to shape the sound of the group, and to influence the emotion created. Tempo is typically kept, maintained and influenced by the percussive and lower instruments, say a tuba and timpani in an orchestra
this performance of dark side will always be the best in my opinion, he just puts so much energy into it its amazing
Yuri
I think my personal favorite is the one he recorded with the Heritage Orchestra for a special back in 2011. He started having the orchestra go on “free jazz” breaks, the bassoonist played 2 improvised solos, him and the drummer had a fun back and forth moment, and by the end of the song he actually climbed up and jumped off the piano!
SHES ONLY SLEEEEEEEEEEEPING
@@emz2969 *he!
He was singing/sobbing about his “daddy”, who never came to his “ball games”!
I came to the comment section to write just that! He’s good in his performances in general, but sometimes you can sorta feel how, after doing the piece a hundred times, he’s already pretty tired of it, so he’s not improvising as much as repeating the best of his previous improvisations, which is a pretty futile thing no matter how good the original take was - you can’t enter that same water again. So, say, there’s also my most favorite performance of Prejudice (at Hammersmith, and I couldn’t find a recording of it better than 360p online). IMO it’s better than the other versions, even the one with the orchestra, for exactly the same reason - Tim Minchin is so much better when he’s freely improvising!
To construct a crazy solo like this that seamlessly incorporates virtuosity and comedy chops in such a way that it can hold the attention of most audiences is just incredible
I can't imagine how you managed to transcribe that so well. Insanely good job.
It was a chap called Tony Williams, if you look in the description.
@@BigCoomingGooner Not to be confused with the legendary jazz drummer, but, ya, I imagine George gives credit to the transcriptionists whenever due
Thank you, 'twas a fun one :)
Watch out Marduk --
@@tonywilliamspiano Totally missed the credit in the video description. That's close to a superpower you've got
I love that the audience was shamed into not clapping
Beats 2 & 4 or nothing
I can't tell you how much I _hate_ audiences clapping on Beats 1 & 3 as they invariably do.
@@jeff__w They didn't even do that, they were late for 1/3 most of the time or way early for 2/4
@@banaantjexx164 I guess so. I was just saying _generally._ It sounds so _…square._
@@jeff__w Fair enough. Clapping on 1/3 tends to give me goosebumps as well, so I completely understand.
Is there a reason for this?
I love these a lot, thanks for doing them. Just started piano lessons, these help me understand the relationship between the notes and the sounds. That is until this one. I have no earthly idea what is going on.
That's what make music grate.
This is a virtuoso one.
I've had 5 years of lessons and I have no earthly idea what is is going on either. Tim is a mad lad!
I’ve been playing piano for eleven years, still no clue at the faster bits unless I slow it down.
I want to give this a thumbs up, but I really like seeing that 666. Ha! Just sayin'.
This is exactly why I never clap or stomp my foot in this situation. I've had JUST enough musical education to know I wouldn't find the beat.
As for finding the beat: Is there any way to practice that?
I feel like I'm rhythmically impaired and lack the capability to even sense it when it gets more complex.
@@LinkEX play rhythm heaven
dont feel bad, im a boogie-woogie/gospel pianist for 15 years and i cant... but give me an instrument and i'll find it just fine... i also cant talk/sing while im playing... i mean it just gets SO BAD....
@@LinkEX pick up drumming or bass guitar. those two instruments are critical in creating the rhythm
i love how he can quickly change the style completly
Thank you, always been one of my favourite lil bits of piano fuckery. People looking for more by Tim Minchin should check out the whole of this performance of Dark Side, also the beat poem Mitsubishi Colt, and the animation for Storm.
Don't forget Peace Anthem for Palestine!
He also has 2 specials on Netflix
His live performances of mitsubishi colt blow my fucking mind to this day, maybe I'm just ignorant but I've never seen piano work like that before or since, it's so expressive and just generally sick
this is by far my favorite version of dark side. The solo SLAPS, Tim makes the audience laugh multiple times just with playing the piano, it gets stuck in my head all the time. Just a brilliant piece of music.
French Horn players be like:
Offbeat clapping is abnormal to you?
Mfw I have to play yet another Sousa March because everyone else loves them and I have to force myself to endure the torture of offbeat eighth notes yet again
First knew him as Judas from JCS, then the man who prefers to sing in F sharp, and now I'm more than astonished to find out that he is the one who made the dearest, most lovable musical Matilda! Amazing man
You should check out Groundhog Day (The Musical) too - he and most of the team behind Matilda created it a few years later.
1:16 you just got coconut malled
I feel like the score should mention that eyeliner is needed for this to work properly.
With the standup and musical comedy sometimes I forget how wickedly talented Tim Minchin is just at playing the piano. Love it!
2:37-2:54 looks/sounds like he was debating dipping into Flight of the Bumblebee before landing on Fur Elise.
One does not simply…
*”bluse’d ol’ Beethoven”*
I have seen tonns of piano stuff and I can genuinely say I did not know you could play piano like this. This is amazing
Dark Side is one of the best Tim Minchin songs. So good.
Iconic performance. And an absolutely brilliant transcription. 👏
Of course you'd be a Minchin fan, Snubby!
How you cut this at the end is just so perfect. No one can resist to visit the original video.
I don't know if it's just because this dude gives me immense Focus lead vocalist vibes, but it looked like he had an unstoppable desire to start yodeling while playing.
Sounds like a very elaborate interlude for an Elton John song.
I understood that reference
Not quite Elton John level yet. But you know what I reckon? I reckon one day...
Iuri Grangeiro But rest assured, Tim is a WEALTHY, wealthy man
Do you think one day he might be as a good as Elton John?
What a genius. This version with the orchestra behind him is my absolute favorite rendition, though (Heritage Orchestra, strongly recommend a viewing)
Max Box??? Wow, love your content! I hope to see another "Spot the Hacker" one day!
@@piplupfan71 he hasn’t uploaded in a year, I know his uploads are long away but idk
@@piplupfan71 lol IDK if there will be another, but maybe at some point. I deeeeefinitely made a mistake being like "I'll talk about this in a future video"
@@piplupfan71 A SimpleFlips and TF2 crossover in the CZcams comment section of a video on music? True...
The crowd control this guy has on the piano is absolutely astonishing
Tim minchin is a legend, one of my favorite piano solos of all time
I hate when I see these astonishing performers and when they finish they start to sing with amazing voice and great technique... it's like... oh! c'mon!!
What's been transcribed here is merely an interlude in the middle of the song.
Yeah it's kinda cruel
AND he's hilarious and insightful too. Totally unfair set of talents on this man.
@@Holygiant on the flip side, he’s a tiny redhead. Life is fair after all ;)
@@peterfireflylund one would even say the G word.
Tim is an absolute legend, and Dark Side is a certified banger
Tim Minchin. Legend. Uses the whole piano.
I watched a lot of Tim's comedy, and heard some of his music, but I didn't know he was this good...
He wrote the Matilda musical (lyrics & music)!
This goes beyond "...and he can also play the piano quite well". This is next level virtuoso stuff.
he also sings entire songs, Jesus Christ Superstar was well cast with him
Incomplete transcription: not enough markings for the totally necessary facial expressions.
The notes were certainly impressive though!
i was at the matilda the musical film world premiere and the audience started clapping off beat to one of the songs and all i could think was "ah you're off beat, wicked"
Perfect example of "I bought the whole piano, i'm gonna use all of it".
This transcription is almost as awe-inspiring as Tim Minchin's playing itself. Very well done Tony!!
you're off beat, wicked!
Look at me reading the transcription along with the music, nodding approvingly like I understand it.
Yeah, I found myself kidding myself as well...
now that's one way to synchronize the audience
Now if only he could 5/4 for a bar to stop them clapping on 1 and 3 at the end.
They were coming in and out of phase there, they weren't actually clapping on 1 and 3 for more than a bar or two. They would fall ridiculously out of phase before the 5/4 bar could actually do anything.
I saw a piano player do the 5/4 measure trick on a day time talk show to get the "helpful" audience back on beat. Harry connick Jr maybe?
@@shmendrickswamii5914 Yep exactly right czcams.com/video/mI-CU2VTVic/video.html
@@shmendrickswamii5914 You can see Harry Connick, Jr doing exactly that in a video on this channel.
I heard an audience doing the Lingus clave
I just love how you analysed the comedy, transcribed it and added some of your own. This is no longer the craft of transcription but its own art form
For anyone who doesn’t know: this is Tim Minchin and he’s a musical comedy legend!
He’s also composed for a bunch of musicals and such!
I was going to type the same thing, but you beat me to it. 👍🙂
He was so good as Judas in the concert version of “Jesus Christ Superstar”!
Plus, my two favorite songs from “Matilda” are “Naughty,” and “When I Grow Up.”
I didn’t know who he was, so thank you for that - seems I need to do some investigation 😉
how is this comedy ? oh the part where does fur elise?
@@DarkenedSpell he does a lot of other songs in his shows that are more comedy based. This one’s more of a showing how talented he is kinda one
@@DarkenedSpell Check out the full piece (link in the description). It is a mindblowing roller coaster of self-deprecating humor. Played at the end of 2 h show with more obviously laughable songs.
Fun fact: This would be meaningless to him, Tim Minchin can’t read or write music. He is self taught by ear.
*read or write sheet music. He can write music alright 😁
I grew up listening to Tim Minchin on an iPod, which included this version of Dark Side. About one year ago I got to see him live in Adelaide. It was and always will be the best concert I ever went to :,)
Tim Minchin: Starts playing more unique jazz chords
Audience: Yep, you lost me
If only this had the beautiful F# singing
Musicians don’t let friends clap on 1 and 3. 😂
Having had piano lessons for 7 years, you would not imagine the talent, the skill, and the practice it takes to play with this much precision and speed. Unbelievable!
also Tim is mostly self taught and can't read or write music (just never bothered learning it). Crazy.
I paid for the whole piano. I'm using the WHOLE piano.
This is how I imagine Mozart was. I dunno how accurate that is, I'm basing it mostly off the film of the play of Amadeus, written 200 years later, but... there's something about the way Mozart does trills and funny music that makes me think he'd get Tim Minchin.
I love when audiences clap to music when the artist is widely and obviously changing up the tempo constantly. But once they start clapping again he’s got good sense to go into a part with a consistent tempo.
Isn't this the guy who's been having a little problem recently, which is quite disturbing musicalically, involving a semi-tonal discrepancy vocally and instrumentally ?
Yep that's him lol
Pretty sure it's him
Wasn't it something about F major and F sharp. I don't know. I think you've got the wrong bloke.
can you explain? is there suspicion of him faking some of his piano performances?
@@shadycatz85 it's the issue/topic of one of the musicians songs. He can actually play this well.
It feels like a magician emptying his sleeves at the end of a show.
Jeez, George is wicked fast... I feel like this was up on CZcams before I even finished the transcription!
@@Raydan116 Seconded
Can we just acknowledge the musical and comedic genius that is Tim Minchin? 🙌🏻🙌🏻
It's refreshing to hear a virtuoso with a sense of humor...
It's easy to forget what an amazing pianist Tim Minchin really is
This man literally wrote one of my favourite musicals, what the talent
“That’ll teach you to clap offbeat at MY concert!!”
i love tim
came for the clapping, stayed for whatever kinda blues/jazz madness that was
It's hard to describe Tim's style, other than "Tim Minchin."
Why is it that technically amazing songs rarely sound as good as the amount of talent you need to play them.
closest thing i've ever seen to "i guess you guys aren't ready for that yet" in real life
Audience claps in f-flat.
This is a perfect comment, my friend.
No idea how you can be skilled enough to transcribe that.
Perfect example of knowing the rules so you can break them.
Tim Minchin is simply my favourite artist ever and I couldn't be happier by seeing him in this channel
I would very much like to see this guys whole show. Thanks for showing the naughty bits though, still trying to get the goose bumps to settle down lol.
This is the true definition of music
i saw the thumbnail and starting freaking out going 'wooaaah george transcribed something by tim minchin?!??!!!'
"F Sharp" is also on this channel. It gave many people great pain.
He asserted dominance like a true gigachad
I don’t care if you like jazz or not, that was frekin fire
but this is not jazz
@@natheniel Everything is Jazz eventually
Ya like jazz?
@@natheniel Did you hear those SPICY chords?
This is not even remotely related to jazz
I’ve waited years for a transcription of this
mans understood the assignment
the faces he make just proves how beautiful this is. so much concentration.
Been listening to Tim Minchin for years he is so talented
i took screenshots of this a while back and performed it at school- thanks for the transcription
The commentary on the transcription is the real star here
Tim Minchin is one of the most talented and funniest comedians alive
If there was anyone who would question Tim’s musical prowess, this is a clip to show them. Awesome work as well compiling and sharing that score 👍
Tim is largely self taught which makes me feel like a desperate underachiever, but also inspired by and in awe of Tim.
When you mock them and they love you for the love, you're doing it right. Legend indeed!
Watching your videos I can't quite believe I have found another person with the same tastes in music as me 🤟
The audience was EXACTLY offbeat, which was interesting. Also heard occasional ON beat clapping in the mix, but the majority weren't brave enough till the end
I think that happens a lot. People clap where they feel it, in something jazzy the off beat is appealing. And everyone will drift together
Right, that explains it. I was confused because they were doing it at the right tempo it seemed, but it was half a beat out I guess. Listening closely yeah, it is half a beat off.
I don't think you know what the word "exactly" means...
I love how I was baited in with a 'ooh, how is Tim going to displace the music to make the clapping fit?!' and got stuck listening to a madman taking me down in his descend
This whole performance is a descent into madness.
Depressingly talented. I wish I could be half that good, I can't even fathom being able to play that fast - is this all improvised too!?
It's different every time he plays it.
Tim Minchin is the ultimate artist in modern music. He's got everything. He's very funny, incredibly skilled on the piano (and sometimes keytar), very nice on camera in interviews, interesting composer with musicals, classical, jazz, blues, pop, rock pieces under his belt, fantastic entertainer with the way he interracts with the audience and an intelligence that manages to combine all his talents in a big meaningful way. I often feel Minchin should be more famous than he already is but on the other hand I don't think he would like that so maybe it's all for the best.
Tim strongly believes fame is bad for people and actively does things to not let it affect him too much. It's part of the reason he chose to do Matilda when he was selling out arenas with comedy.
Tim’s beautiful mind dancing along to his own genius 💃🏻 🕺🏼 🎹
playing at that level must be such a satisfying fucking feeling