1968 to 1972 Chevy Nova Quarter Panels, Rockers, Tail Panel, Wheel Houses Restoration Episode 4
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- čas přidán 23. 12. 2022
- In this video I use a 1970 Nova as our project car. This will be exactly the same process if you have a 3rd gen 1968 to 1972 Nova or Chevy II. I will go over a quick overview of the process and how we went about restoring this Nova installing New Rocker Panels, doors, Wheel Houses, tail panel, trunk hinges, deck filler panel, and support brackets. Hopefully you can get some enjoyment and gain some knowledge to help you tackle your major Metal restoration project.
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Dam dude you make this work look so easy! I’d be struggling and throwing shit like a madman!!
Thank you very much, sometimes they get to be a challenge and don't go together this easy its not just you.
Awesome work
Thank you!
This video makes me want my 69 Nova back, but it is long gone. The panels fitment looks good and the car should be really nice when painted.
Thank you!
I just bought a 71 nova and it needs this same process. I wish you were my neighbor! I know when I start I’m gonna be scared as hell to cut into it not sure if I’ll ever be able to get it back together again!! You sure do nice work, I can only hope that I’m going to be able to get my car back on the road again!!🤣🤣👍👍
Just take it one step at a time, JIG up the important stuff and take it one section and task at a time to not be overwhelmed and see forward progress. You can't take too many extra measurements
Thats why i dont tell people i can do this kind of work. Hahaha
What a surgeon is for a person, you are for a car.
Incredible work young man.
Truly gifted incredibly hard worker.
Hat's off to you.
You're also a gifted teacher .
Thank you very much!
These vids are great. Doing a 70 myself. Thanks for your time and work. Great job!
Your welcome thanks for watching and good luck on your 70!
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Thanks for another great video. I appreciate Watching how you moved the panels around with the ratchet strap. Enjoy the video keep them coming
Thank you for the continued support!
you sir,are a complete professional,an artist if I may say.thanks for sharing this....
You are welcome much appreciated!
excellent restoration man, if the subtitles were in Spanish or French it would be easier for me, I like it when you explain all the work you do and why it has to be done, congratulations you are a great friend saludos
Thanks a lot and I am glad you are still able to watch maybe youtube will help fix that in the future.
Awesome video, great job and great job explaining fitment and tricks. I have replaced several panels in my day but never that many at once but I also have a 3rd gen Nova that needs a lot replaced in rear like that one. This video truly helps, thank you again!
Good luck on your Nova. I am glad to hear this video helped you out. Thanks for watching!
Great job, and a professional video. I do not think you missed anything !!!
Thanks a lot!
Cool, cut some rust out of a Nova myself
Nice, good luck with your build!
WOW...What a fantastic video.!!!! You covered everything perfect! I always thought replacing these parts would take some serious work,but I can see it's not as complicated as most ppl told it would be. I passed on a 1970 Original SS Nova because every body man who looked at told me it was a HUGE headache to totally replace quarters with inner and outer wheel wells using full panels.!! They told me it was better to just cut and use patch panels...sure wish I would seen your videos first...Keep up the GREAT work.!!
Thanks a lot!
Another really great video!! WOW. Thank you.
thanks for watching!
Outstanding 👍💯
Thank you!
Thanks for your advice 👍
Great job
You're welcome thanks for watching!
I'm also getting ready to start on a 70 nova. I'm thinking I should send it to you for the sheet metal ! 😁
Good luck on your Nova in a week or two ill have this nova wrapped up and basically covered the whole car should let you know what your getting into. If that doesn't work feel free to reach out.
Your work gives me so much hope !
Thank you. They are fixable for sure
Awesome work thanks for the good information
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Extremely good information you do a great job very impressive
Thank you!
Amazing work!
Thank you very much!
Great job, best work I have seen and very educational.
Thanks a lot I really appreciate it!
Great channel. Glad I found
Thank you!
Beautiful job
Thank you
Very nice people have no idea this stuf f is not easy good job
Thank you very much
Real nice work
Thank you very much!
It looks perfect.
Thank you very much!
Looks awesome!
Thank you
very cool thank you great vid
appreciate it! Thanks for watching
a wealth of knowledge 👍🏁
thanks much appreciated!
Again great work woowww 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you
Wow nice work!
Thank you very much
Great job
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Good Work!
Thank you!
Lot more body shops should take lessons from this guy nice job I had 72 ss it was in really good shape wish I still had it things in life happen like kids so I had to sell it
Thanks hopefully you get a chance to own one again down the road!
There are tons of shops that know how , the question is who is willimg to pay !! …. A dumb shop would do it right and lose money 9 x out of 10 …. Thats why most shops dont do resto , rust repair
I know from a few experiences , A M D after market panels are the best ones …. Never perfect but damn close , and heavier than dyna corp junk
Question for you: im trying to figure out the primer selections. I know using weld through between surfaces is good before welding (copper). You have epoxied the rest prior to that just taped off the weld areas and put copper. I notice you put etching primer on after the welds. Why use this and not epoxy once all the welds are done? wouldnt it be better to have all the metal epoxy coated once all the welds are done? Seeing as epoxy is a superior primer compared to etching primer? Great videos by the way you are amazing at what you do. Insane amount of work and precision to do this really good stuff. I am hoping I will just have to do floor pans, outside rockers and maybe wheel wells but you just never know with these cars until you break them down. Like that rust on the roof of the challenger you would never know its even there. Thanks for this
I realize you kind of answered that question later in the video when you got in the trunk.
@@SubdivisionAuto Basically the etching primer is easy and cheap so I etch the bare exposed metal. Then when the car is all done and I am stripping the external body I finish it off with 2 really good coats everywhere with epoxy the etching primer usually is sanded off with a da 80 git with ease. When you finish this video series on this Nova when it leaves you will see the car is all in 1 color epoxy primer. For the time it takes to clean my spray guy cover up other stuff in the garage just to prime a few areas in epoxy I wouldn't get anything done efficiently. If I know I will be priming a large area of the car I will leave it and just epoxy the bare metal as you asked.
@@carthageclassiccars Ah okay very smart and time efficient. Thank you for this I will do the same just good workflow
Awesome Boxing Day Video. With the spot welder is it a just one pull on the trigger or do you hold it on to intensify the weld?
....and, have a Great New Year.
Thank you! With some spot welders its pull and hold to intensify the weld, but with this pro spot pr-2000 welder everything is pre set on the panel. SO when I squeeze the trigger to weld the holding pressure, time, and amperage is all set to give a consistent weld and take human error out of it. It also holds the weld after to help while its cooling. Most of the time I am waiting on the welder pushing the buttons that are not active as I am trying to move on to the next weld spot.
@@carthageclassiccars Thanks for the explanation. My Father was for many years a spot welder and handled the ungainly machine with such dexterity.
For stripping the paint off the panels do you use the 240 red stripping drum or the red finishing drum? Im looking to order a kit because of all the videos I watched online this tool looks so much faster than using a grinder.... just seems worth the investment. I assume you also use this for rust stripping too with like the 80s grit or something like that. Looks like an awesome tool and Eastwood products seem great. Thanks
For the first drum you buy an personally the 40 grit I believe it is black drum s the way to go. I really only use the red ones to really fine tune the body panels prep them for welding and maybe remove e coat.
@@carthageclassiccars Perfect thanks again sorry for the millions of questions
Question. Technically doesn't the inner / outer WH sandwich the rear panel near the door regulator? I like this method better.
No I don't believe so I just looked at a factory untouched Nova and it sits on the inner rocker like this video
So if you were to install mini tub wheel well housings , the new trunk floors would have to be modified including the frame rails? You do great work btw 👍
Thank you and yes I have installed a mini tub kit a while ago on a Nova. It came with new frame rail inserts and templates to cut the floor and trunk pans. They make some nice kits that make the cutting east with templates.
If you weren’t so far away . I’d send you my car to have this done. I have a 72 that’s been sitting in my garage for a while now.
My car needs the rear section redone due to rust from a leaking trunk. The usual lower part of each quarter panels and lower portion of the rear glass where the package tray meets the trunk is rusted through. Your videos just showed me how each of those pieces come together . Amazing work and ethics . Your attention to detail . Keep this vids coming . 👍
Thanks again take your time and you will be fine with the install.
Have a few questions. First , this video is great. How hard do you think is is for a D.I.Y. Guy. I want to replace both rear quarters and tail light panel. Problem is that I am going to put tubs into the car and will be cutting out most of the floor. I won’t be reusing the wheel wells at all. Already have the package tray and new filler panel for trunk. It looks like a monumental undertaking. What are your thoughts?
I think there is a lot of variables in your question. It is a lot of work however guys do it in their own shops all the time. Do you know how to weld? Do you have a welder? A lot of tips and tricks in the video I show is under the assumption you would already have the basic fabrication skillset along with the tools that go along with it. If your going with full wheel tubs does that mean you will fabricate all the panels yourself because that also gets into a whole different world. The last part of that questions would be what your time is worth , your budget and what quality you want the car to be. If you have a tight budget on the car and have the tools might have to save on the labor cost and do it yourself. There is a lot of great shops out there but also some not so good ones so sometimes doing it yourself you know no corners are cut. Good luck with your build.
@@carthageclassiccars have most of the tools welders and basic knowledge of fabrication. Would it be best to put the quarters on before removing the floor and putting in the new chassis or do it beforehand? Thanks
@@robertpetrocelli8243 I personally like to do the floor first and get the whole base of the car solid and usually the quarters are at more towards the end of my builds on most of the cars I end up doing .
@@carthageclassiccars thank you!
How long does it normally take you to finish that work✊️😎
If you have a similar car you can email me at carthageclassiccars@gmail.com and we can talk I don't like to discuss the time things take online.
Awesome video, I have a 70 SS Acadian that I’m getting ready to replace both rear quarters on and inner wheel houses due to the addition of bondo flares back in the 70’s
My question is can you explain more about how to remove and attach the quarter to the rear window drip rail, I watched the whole video and I saw how you cut it to remove the quarter from drip rail, did you have to remove a spot welded piece after the quarter was cut off? Thanks
Thanks, to try and answer your question are you referring too the rear window channel? Where the quarter runs down the side of the back window glass? To remove that I used a air chisel and popped up the spot welds working around them carefully, but if you are not efficient with that you can use a spot weld cutter then the air chisel to pop them up. Hopefully that helps clear things up.
Thanks for the reply, sorry I wasn’t clear I was referring to where the quarter window drip rail meets the quarter panel , I see the drip rail gets left on the car and the old quarter is cut off along it in your video. Is there a row of spot welds that get removed later on? I hope that’s clearer
@@70AcadianSS Yes I understand usually there I will take a 4 inch grinding disk the stone ones about 1.4 inch thick on an angle grinder and slowly grind away the quarter portion without hitting the drip rail, while hammering a screw driver up the drip rail popping the spot welds. I think I did a video on a barracuda roof install where I went into further detail on how i do that process since this drip rails on that car are similar.
Awesome I will check that video out thanks for the information glad I found these videos that’s a huge help
you're welcome
Thank you for the video. I'm new to this, I have a 72 and need to replace the full trunk pan. I ordered the full pan from amd, how do I change this threw the taillight panel? I hope I don't have to remove the quarters. This pan is huge. Don't want to cut it up. Thanks for any advice.
You will at least have to pull apart the tail panel. Sometimes for the price its easier to just install a new one however I have saved the old panels with some care. I would also say you will need the trunk drop off extensions that match up with the bottom of the quarters. You would probably also need to remove then reinstall that rear seat bracket. Also on the car i was working on if you watch the video on this Nova trunk and floor install on my video list I had to remove the inner wheel houses or you will at least need to really move them out of the way. You are right the Nova trunk pan is huge and its a hard piece to install all together one time. Good luck with the project a 1 piece floor in these car is a big job.
@@carthageclassiccars Thank you
Do you do only sheet metal work? You kept mention sending it out to a body, I wasn't sure if you do the whole thing or not.
There are a few cars over time I will do the body and paint to stay relevant , however with my current setup I am not as efficient with the paint/body. This owner was great to work for and I would have loved to finish this car however I focus on the metal work and most everything that comes in the shop inform the customer their dollar is better spent at other places. Hopefully down the road if I am able to upgrade the shop and find some help it might be another case.
What are the little brackets called in the rear quarter corner
They should be called quarter stiffeners I believe
What’s the time frame that you put into this particular car?
Total from the time it arrived to my shop until it left was somewhere around 120-140 hours
hola soy diego de argentina como podria traer las piezas de una chevy para restaurar mi nova
Estás tratando de comprar las piezas? Auto Metal Direct es el mejor lugar.
How did you put in the torque bar
I am not exactly sure what you mean by torque bar? If you are talking about the floor braces and supports they came on the one piece floor.
@@carthageclassiccars the trunk lid torque bar that keeps trunk lid open
@@vincentmadera8159 Ah ok I see now, I don't have a video on them, but the non adjustable side goes in first, hooks around the hinge pillar, but don't set in up in the area it goes and let it sag while you line up the adjustable side with the least tensioned hole. then push up on the non adjustable side to get it hooked up top then you can more your adjustment side to set the desided tension . It is really hard to explain but hopefully this might help you
How many hours does it take to put inmer rear tubes and a 72 trunk pan i a 73 nova with two 72 new quarters with rear inner lower quarter panels and fabercate the trunk floor for a 73 mova for the gas tank area
Everyone does the job different and all cars will be slightly different so there is no really hard definite answer for your question.
where can i get ``all metal`` qtr filler?
If you google All metal there is tons of sellers from amazon to summit racing
@@carthageclassiccars Could i use long strand or kitty hair 1st then spray epoxy over and then poly filler/block over that epoxy?
@@Supanova70 Yes 100% actually that would be my preferred method
@@carthageclassiccars sold lol
Where are you locate
Carthage North Carolina
Where is your shop?
Carthage North Carolina
Man I doing this on a 72 ss I got on trade and got ripped off badly its a backhalf car and they butchered it horribly I wish you were around me for so.e advice and tips
Good luck with the Nova, My opinion its hard to find one that isn't a complete mess as old as they are and as many different people worked on them.
How much do u charge to do this? I have a 68. She needs some help.
Feel free to email me some details at carthageclassiccars@gmail.com and we can discuss your Nova.
Alot of people could learn from your posts I am. But where's your duck tape it's not a real fix without it.⌨🖥
Thank you and your right is the job really done without the duct tape....lol
It's too bad you cant just get everything new.....all new frame, all new sheetmetal....and just transfer the VIN from the old rusty car to the new car.....
Seems like to much work cutting and chiseling all these individual parts off.
I think you can buy most everything but a few parts for this car new, Other model cars I know for sure they do sell everything new, but even with everything in the restoration world its a lot of work but I feel worth it when they are finished.
You screwed this car up. This is the wrong in so many ways. Cutting the quarter to move it up ?
I am assuming you didn't watch the entire video because I go over why the quarter had to be cut. We all can't build perfect cars like you everyday, sometimes there are small imperfections like in most factory cars that were never built as show cars form the 60s and 70's and people want them fixed and aligned perfect. But anyway thanks for commenting.
A year ago i found a 69 nova at a local junk yard here in phoenix AZ it was hit on the passengers side door area but savable by replacing the rocker i tried everything to get them to sell me the Nova and them bastards said no no and it got crushed fu.k pull a part
I have seen that many times also really sad when some of us see the potential in these classics. There was one around here same thing i would go out there and try and buy half the classic car side of the yard....long story short steel scrap prices went up and they are all gone now.