I may just be getting older, but Drake's new album made me realize that I am tired of "the culture."
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- čas přidán 10. 10. 2023
- Drake's new FATD album made me realize that burnt out on rap, hood culture and the complicated messages centered around it.
@felixskura
This aged extremely well.
😂😂👍🏽
I was expecting this comment when I saw this video got recommended
Like fine wine...
Extremely
No it didn’t, a bunch of people just woke up and decided they don’t like their own lives and want to tear down someone who’s been on top for a long time..bunch of spiteful haters you all are
“Why believe you, you never gave us nothing to believe in!” - K.
"cuz you LIED about religious views, you LIED about your surgery, you LIED about your accent and your past tense, ALL IS PERJURY" - 🐐
D1 glazer
@@Drakeunreleased894 I like your username. You definitely in the major leagues of glazing.
@@StayBlessed47 you guys are bias when it comes to drake
@@Drakeunreleased894 I’m unbiased when it comes to good music. I listened to Drake when he was coming up and his music has not been hitting the same since. He undoubtedly makes good catchy music and is always dropping, beyond that I have nothing more to say.
Shoutout to the men who didn't wait for kendrick and just had their own thoughts
And shoutout to the ones who don’t need to be swayed by the masses. Listen to what you want and what you like and keep it moving
@@nwinsto602 Indeed.
Bro came out the gate with the things I've been thinking for years, like Drake is the McDonald's of rap, the industry is over saturated. I knew some people weren't going to stay, they were going to fall off and some have.
@@nwinsto602listening to drake is literally being part of the masses but ok
Listen to him if you like him, don't if you don't, do you regardless. @@mcgavinclapping9490
like wine....
I tried to tell em
@@FelixSkura …I tried to show 'em, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Goin' on you with the pick and roll
Young La Flame, he in sicko mode…
I’m 27 and married for a year now; it’s almost embarrassing listening to dudes like 10 years older than me still talking like how I would’ve talked at 17.
Same im 27 stopped listening to rap at 21
@@sparkleismyfavword3749😂😂😂 it’s not the genre it’s what you listen to
@@Rudeboishht i STOPPED LISTENING TO RAP MUSIC when i was 21 DID I STUTTER
@@sparkleismyfavword3749 You never liked rap music it’s ok kid go back to your rock n roll metal bs , btw mumble rap isn’t rap dipshxt you fake ass hipster fans ruined hip hop btw
@@sparkleismyfavword3749..?
The state of rap/hip hop and black music as a whole is beyond sad and frustrating. It’s gotten so bad that 2 months ago I have begun listening to jazz and classical music to raise my vibrations.
Real shit
The industry has destroyed rap music
Listen to underground rap it’s much better than mainstream rap specifically the Bay Area and LA underground rap scene is good right now
real
“As a whole” is a stretch, there’s still great music being produced today. Btw Jazz is black music
Aged well because this is exactly how the cultures feeling
I hope there's been a major shift but highly doubtful
No, we don’t feel like this AT ALL
Don’t speak for a culture you don’t represent, Kate
Yeah arenas packed all around the country lol
@@edwardasiedujr.4440yeah❗❗❗ we rockin with the certified pedophile aint we edward❓❗❓❗🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@edwardasiedujr.4440Lemme guess, you’re African. And I don’t mean African American - I mean African. And if I’m right then you’re not part of the culture lol. Anybody that’s middle class and below and from America is more in “the culture” than some African dude lol. Idk why but every dude on Twitter that was defending Drake was always from Canada or Africa.
This aged like fine wine.
I keep telling people that Kendrick's raps are growing with us. He got a lot of people into therapy just out of Mr Morale
Mhm!
it's nice to see his discography creeping up the billboard charts. People are actually listening to him for the first time and that's great!
the beef really exemplified the difference between maturing and aging. one is an active, introdpective reflective process while the other is a passive process that just happens to you. Kendricj is in no way perfect, but at least he tries to be human and invites us into the process with him
Bro people were listening to Kendrick even before all this happens tf is you yappin@@RideTheSkies
@@trinty5339Decent number of people who didn't listen to his music or even rap as a whole are checking out his discography now.
“Drake calls us the N-word and degrades our women while he goes home to a happy family”
Most real thing I saw on the internet this week.
Drake definitely doesn't have no family
I watched that video of drake accidentally saying the hard R, when giving props and thought to myself... black people don't ACCIDENTALLY slip the hard R.
@@elijahwilliams3728he sure doesn’t all he has is h*es he sleeps with never even been engaged before or had a real relationship. There’s no family for him to be happy with he has the son that we know about publicly, and the retired escort he had his son with that’s it. Definitely not a happy family he likely wishes he wasn’t the father too I bet because of her past. But I think his p*rnstar baby mama suits him well.
@@christophertinal5176he was code switching but got too deep into character 🤣
Let the bias go… I can name multiple songs he tributes to women
CZcams algorithm brought me here.
Drake is not part of the culture AT ALL.
He's an actor of the industry playing the role of a rapper.
He probably was a industry plant from the start too
Facts
@@adriansantiago3745 naw Drake had a passion for rap when he first came out
He changed tho but early Drake is what I remember from
The mixtapes
he's very talented singing wise but he tries too hard to portray an image that's not him. there's a video of him disowning the same culture that he embraced. he can easily distance himself from the same beefs that he starts with other rappers by making the music that skyrocketed his career. his older backpack music wasn't getting traction for the same reason that his peers didn't respect the fact that he was perpetrating a character that he's not. once he taps into his emotions and brings out the r&b side of him. that's what everyone wants to listen to.
@@Reyo2000 passion or talent doesn’t mean he isn’t a industry plant. You can be very talented and go nowhere
I'm in the same camp. I'm 24, about to turn 25 and I've realised that this kind of 'music' just isnt for me anymore. I deleted most rap songs from my playlist on Spotify and left a few with substance. I'm tired of the hypersexualisation of women, and the glorification of degeneracy in general. Maybe it has something to do with getting older and more in tune with spirituality, but I just don't need to listen to overly vulgar songs anymore. It does not do anything for my soul.
Ya I'm at about that point myself. Most rap these days is made for young teens.
@@TylerMBuller12it's not even made for them 😂. Just horrible
Your booty hole must not be brown.
I would suggest to you some Christian rap/hip hop, I’m not sure what you believe in, but it’s great quality sounding music with a really good message, some of my favorite artists are Jon Keith, nobigdyl, Aha Gazelle, and WHATUPRG, RG has a a an amazing album that came out last year called “New Hollywood” it’s some of the best production from an album I’ve ever heard. And the subject manner is absolutely beautiful. Jon Keith as an album called “Eremos” that came out earlier this year and every song from that album is a no skip, he raps and opens up about his depression he carried with him ever since he was a child which not a lot of artists do nowadays, and considering the fact that in this generation kids, teens, and even adults are as depressed as ever it’s kinda sad when you really think about it. But if you decide to tune in, please lmk what you think!
I agree with you. It's like we all have to save face is that we're not gaining nothing out of listening to this kind of music 🎶.
Social media-influenced rap is designed to keep us in a childlike mindstate…the culture back in the day is revered so much because there was an element of elevating yourself mentally. All the rappers of that era were able to keep maturity in their raps while keeping their bars tough.
I largely agree but have a counter point (im so sorry if this gets long i dont have people to discuss this with lol);
the older era and current generation are only fractionally different and we merely in our minds fabricate a 'Golden Age' that never happened. We always look at music and not who incorporates and distributes it. Y'all gotta understand the impact of Bone Thugs N' Harmony particularly, but most groups in the 80-90's were paid by the same folks payin our favorite artists today to maintain a specific mental, physical, financial and spiritual condition for corporate welfare. So the bars were tough yes, but the issues we have today are still directly tied to even the most revered musical acts
but its all the same.
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 we still had balance back in the day. You gotta remember, we had way more artists in the '80s and '90s than the few that still get praised these days. We still had regular guy rappers, punchline rappers (I'm talking the punchlines that went beyond a bunch of gun talk), positive rappers, hood rappers that actually talked about how they're broke and struggling, revolutionary Black empowerment rappers, romantic rappers and all alongside the street rappers and the materialism rappers. There is definitely more than a small difference.
These days any rappers fitting the above categories are strictly underground with a few exceptions. You don't get as much of a balance, regarding the popular stuff, as you did back then.
Chino xl is a perfect example what you mentioned. When I was in high school, I came across a few of his tracks like “all bad”, “water”, “skin” and “who am I”. Specially “who am I” which touches on identity and his struggle from childhood to becoming an artist. It had value, and you can hear the value system through the lyric’s (I don’t agree with all, but it helped paint a different picture away from all the negative shit). Can’t say the same for a lot of the music now days.
@@apexone5502facts. Their were different positive rappers in all sectors
I've started gravitating towards music without lyrics cuz I'm tired of negative energy
Same here tbh.
The tongue can send sound waves with low frequencies directly into your ears and into the chakras of your body, if you consider your body “sacred”, you must be wise of what you allow into it. This is a good decision, trust me.
Facts
Check out Michael Trenier or Xerolaw
Listen to Nujabes.
I discovered Lupe Fiasco and Kanye during middle school, and it changed my life. The use of double-entendre, multisyllabic rhymes with clever wordplay and actual substance was what appealed to me. Southern, dance-based rap was starting to gain popularity in my area, but my introduction to hip hop was centered around uplifting and using music as an outlet to express irritation with a broken system.
Now I can't keep up. Every three days a new artist pops up, and I'm tired of memorizing names. Everybody wants to shoot everybody else or fuck someone's girlfriend. It's both boring and dangerous. Maybe I'm just old.
No you just have class
Same here
The cool by Lupe and Kanye first three albums were truly divine. I still listen to them today. Thank you for mentioning them.
Food and Liquor and The Cool are easily still top contenders in a list of best rap albums of all time
still plenty of conscious rappers, stop listening to "ignant" shit and complain that all you hear is ignant shit
The female issues is Drake realizing he doesn't have somebody to compliment his success. He doesn't have that "beyonce". ASAP Rocky secured the bag on Rihanna. All Drake has is no purpose IG models & strippers to pick from now. Who he can't relate to, like he could with somebody like a Rihanna , who basically came up in the game with him and can share stories with. He's around woman he can't relate to because they came AFTER the hardwork.
Damn that must feel like a big void in his life. Kind of feel bad because that whole album he got dubbed by every women and it’s crazy to think that even with all that money & popularity he still can’t get the relationship he truly wants
@@avalosalex1993yes, it hits different when your a mega-star and you cannot find somebody who can possibly relate to you because your way too successful now. His groupies are just there to enjoy the free gifts & flex they knew him. The gift and the curse.
Thts all Drake's fault fo being a simp tho.
Spot on..his birkin bag baddies ain't on his level intellectually. Those chicks look good but they really are no value to his life. Having a " Beyonce" would bring bro more balance, or at least someone who isn't just around because of what they can take from him.....but mentally he's just not there
I mean no, he doesn't have to, he could just try someone that has a stable job or is successful in their job.. Doesn't have to be a power couple. There are other ways of being successful than just being a global superstar lmao
Every generation ask questions about EVERYTHING. Eventually, time moves on and you evolve and make sense out of your own understanding. It's just your time to evolve.
Chuch
Or maybe the music just absolutely sucks.
@@user-fm3xr9yz3ilook my brother I’ve found so many dope artists that are actually creative on SoundCloud and Spotify alone
Great point!
its extremely easy to find good muisc@@user-fm3xr9yz3i. Stop listening to what they have on the charts.
Kendrick once said ‘ I will give myself again till the well runs dry’ To be honest every artist will reach that point where the well runs dry. Drake is starting to hit that point, I mean when you have been giving out your all every year for almost 15 years at some point the well runs dry. Drake has my respect,he has given us his all and sadly we’ve reached that point where the well runs dry.
starting? hes been putting out bad albums for years
@@heatchecknyc2142i agree I never even mistakenly heard his albums I tried with nothing was the same and I never made it through I just couldn’t stand listening to him I just can’t stand drakes voice!!
Drake has been putting music out since 2004 southern smoke mixtape Dj smalls… then was the heartbreak drake vol 1 - 4…
All? People write and make songs dor Drake. Suse is a fraud and industry puppet.
Hasnt had a decent album since more life
I had a moment of clarity when I realized I don’t identify with anything post modern rap is talking about. Stepped away from the culture 3 years ago and haven’t looked back. Everytime I try and peep new music, I leave more discouraged than before. I don’t want to kill anyone, I just wanna grow my spirit and my ambitions. There’s more to life than drugs alcohol and women.
Exactly. The only rap and rhyme schemes I hear now are my own I create and upload on my channel.
Yeah me too. I realized most mainstream music especially mainstream rap was garbage when I was about 15 or 16. I'm 32 now and mainstream rap is worse than ever before.
@@MESSEDUPWORLD30Same here. Never identified with mainstream music really. Although you could say the music of the 60’s-90’s sometimes had its own agenda, at least it had soul.
@@innermeetme yeah exactly. My favorite era was the 80s and 90s music. All genres doesn't matter. Everything now sounds fake digital computerized and soulless. No real passion and emotion. Too much narcissism and ego and showing off in the music now. The culture in general. Nobody wants to look vulnerable. So they fake being tough and resilient. It's all superficial.
@@nezahuatez yes you're right. I hate all these overly complicated labels.
As a creator who’s spent a lot of time isolating myself from the world, this is giving me a much needed sense of urgency. It’s time to bring something new, uplifting and unifying to the scene.
Keep that B's on your MacBook, no one was waiting for your awakening goofy as
Yo you make music ? I’m an artist and we could take over the worldddd
Lets take over the world together ! I'm a developer with experience in AI n API's
The wild part is that yall are looking for substance and creativity from these big box stars. GO FIND PEOPLE MAKING MUSIC IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT THEM. I can guarentee you personally know someone who's making super creative music. The world is FULL TO THE BRIM with real artists.
Great so do it n stop asking for validation you got this
Bro started spittin out of nowhere
6 months later...
you were definitely vindicated 😂 salute to you
This aged well
Rap is and always has been a young-person genre, we just happened to grow up with it. Now that we have grown, we are starting to say the same things our elders were saying about what we were listening to.
Exactly 💯
How can you say artists like Tupac and DMX are young people music? Is it rap or is it the corporate side of the music industry?
I disagree. Rap just started in our parents generation so of course when something is brand new it’s going to be the youth taking part in it. But if there’s no longevity, and that same youth can’t age with their artistry then it shows the genre itself is incomplete and not living up to standard. We should be able to watch an artist grow up and age and change and we should be able to grow with the music. Which is the opposite of what drake is doing. If Picasso had stopped painting at 20 he would love just been another boring realistic portrait artist it’s age that made him him and that rains true for every artist.
@@DavidianCrestTupac and dmx where teens when they came out Tupac wasn’t even 25 when he died so I’m confused how it could have been anything other than young people music?
@@cecemimi101 Music is a creative art, not a science like biology or physics. There are no definite rules, laws, or age limits to creative arts (hence the term “prodigy”). There’s mature and immature versions of every genre of music. In fact, most artists in general start out young because a young look sells better, irrespective of genre. Hip-hop AND other genres, have young and old artists that appeal to both younger and older crowds . The age of the artist doesn’t determine the audience. And in vice versa, many young people enjoy older rappers/artist to this day. So many child popstars (non hip-hop) didnt have longevity and their music was eternalized as kids music. Do you think mature Asian men are rolling around in their Prius bumping BTS?
There was conscious hip hop in the 90s when i was growing up, alongside the gangster shit or more "street" feel. The industry's best interest was to dumb it down. Or better yet, you split the fanbase right down the middle... 75% of the base wants the flashy shit, and 25% want stories, growth, and unity, and some kind of message to lift themselves up from the community they came from. I listen to both, but the flashy shit is when im trying to get myself hype before basketball games, boxing, fighting, etc. Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers album was the turning point where i actually had hope for artists today to "try harder" in become creative in something they would actually be proud of, instead of "theres another hit in the bank".
And people especially genZ and casuals didn’t like mr morale because it wasn’t full of catchy songs and beats or commercial like DAMN album
Thank you! I thought I was crazy for feeling like Drake's music hasn't been the same anymore and I've had people come for me when I say that. He's pushing close to 40 still hanging out with 20+ year olds, grow up dude. You don't need to cater to that age group, if you have real fans, they will be there no matter the age. Like Sade will drop something 10 years apart and sell out immediately when she does concerts and its ALL ages but do we see her hanging out with people younger than her? No. Create and do what you love and as an artist myself, I had to learn this myself. If I don't appeal to certain age group, that's fine, music is music. There's sooooooo many things to sing, rap about and I am tired of the era of music that it is right now.
This. Girl this.
Ultimately I think hip-hop is just a young persons genre. Tupac and Biggie were only 25 when they passed. When I was a child I thought that was kinda old, but now I’m a few years older than they were and I sense it when I watch old videos of them.
Jay Z and Nas have shown us what it’s like to age gracefully in the game, but that’s why it’s called the rap game. Not everyone is built to play forever. Like Cyhi said, “get your money and get out the game”
29 here & I can’t name you 4/5 new rappers/artists out now If im listening to Hip hop it’s either old school or mid new/old? Haha
Click clack type of hip hop is like action movies, most action movies grow silly with time same to that war simulation music, play The people by Common any day and analyze how you feel, now that is great example of a great hip hop song
i think that's a fair take, but i disagree that hip-hop is a young person's genre. unless of course you were generalizing, which is likely, but i'll continue anyway.
i think young people have been drawn to hip-hop over the years due to its rebellious nature and often obvious lyrical themes. young people are not known for being subtle lol - i say this as someone turning 23 in a few months. and these traits of hip-hop - much like the various flavors of punk rock over the years - speak to the minds of young people, generally speaking of course. whether these young people have a real political agenda they're fighting for or not, young people relate to the feeling of wanting or needing to rebel; rebellion is a big part of growing up and finding yourself, after all. and i think this appeal to young folks is what keeps hip-hop in the state that it is. it's very cyclical.
kids who grew up listening to NWA and Tribe related to it in some way, then started making their own rap music when they got old enough. but because of the reach these OG rappers had, obviously not everyone they've inspired will go on to continue the legacy of fighting for rights, speaking out against injustices and abuse, etc. plenty of them will think they're saying something profound when they're really not, and others will simply not even attempt to day anything meaningful - which i don't think is necessarily a bad thing on its own. but as i said, young people are not known for being subtle. so the rebellion of speaking out against real world issues affecting real people gets boiled down by some to just fighting to say whatever they want; whatever happens to be "rebellious" at that point in culture.
this side of rebellious music is what gets marketed by labels, played on the radio, sold in stores (and not banned), and most recently promoted on Apple Music, Spotify, etc. these companies don't want to promote media that will get negative attention in the way that progressive political music does. then the young people who don't actually care about the message and just want to feel cool listen to that because it's what they're told will make them look cool. essentially, by this point, hip-hop has been boiled down and trimmed to be presentable to mainstream audiences, especially young people. and since young people don't know any better, they just consume it without regard for what message that sends to the industry.
obviously there's been plenty of genuinely thoughtful rap and hip-hop music throughout history, and there's plenty of it today as well. Earl Sweatshirt, Tyler the Creator, A$AP Rocky, JPEGMAFIA, Danny Brown, J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, just to name a few off the top of my head. and of course legends from past decades like Jay-Z, Kanye, Eminem, Common, Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliot, Erykah Badu, etc etc. but these artists speak to like-minded people who want to put their time and energy into trying to make a difference in the world. and that message often just doesn't land with young people, who see the world through a very different lens than people who have lived longer. which is fine, everyone has their own journey through life. but generally speaking, young people tend to relate more to messages that are put as simply and bluntly as possible, and tend to relate more to blind rebellion than rebellion with a cause. so that's what sells, because young people control what pops off in the industry.
so i don't think that hip-hop is necessary a "young person's" genre, i think it's mostly consumed by and marketed towards young people and their ideals because that's where the money is. like you said, that's why it's called the game; not everyone has what it takes to play forever. some are just in it for the money and their 15 minutes
The wild part is that yall are looking for substance and creativity from these big box stars. GO FIND PEOPLE MAKING MUSIC IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT THEM. I can guarentee you personally know someone who's making super creative music. The world is FULL TO THE BRIM with real artists.
@@kJ-gk5qu. I read a study that said apparently people stop checking for new music around 30.
I’m pretty relieved to see more people being more honest about this. I was never really a party person and yes I’m pretty boring but, I never really felt desire to be apart of a group and go out just to get drunk and have to make my way home..why not just invite friends over and take turns going to each others house to save money ? Get drunk in the safety of your home and play challenging games instead of sexual games …too much of anything is always gonna expire at some point
I understand what you mean. I need more substance. I’m an old head but I felt the same about a lot of music in the 90’s that I listened to in my teens.
Ok it doesn't need to be so black and white going to peoples house is honestly boring and I understand going to clubs can get boring but there is so many other things you can do besides that
@@nimanixo I’m just giving an idea , I’m not saying only do that every weekend
clubing has existed for a long time it’s just that now it intertwined with social media making it seem like that’s the goal to just flex at the club and that’s it
@@Jsmoove8k idk cause dating wasn’t a thing in the west til the 50s…nowadays that’s the main goal too is to get into a relationship or something or get laid but, seems back in the day it was mainly about dancing skills and having a good time and then it gets addictive and toxic..another reason to club nowadays is network/business connections but..even that can get toxic..at least from the outside looking in..I guess it depends on the crowd really and the people
Ppl called me a hater for not liking Drake and saying he makes jingles not rap. He is the TSwift of hip pop.
Makes sense why the only black person he ever looked up to was taylor, shes the only person that can actually make him postpone his album
Nah Tswift writes her own music and doesn't need a team of ghost writers to drop.
@@raverkidxtc9112 still there is no substances in her songs, just party songs
@@sultanhanga I actually enjoy her song Anti Hero she talks about her depression, self consciousness, and narcissism. That alone is deeper than anything Drake has penned.
I'm not a tswift fan at all but she's a much better songwriter than drake (for the type of music she does). Drake just finds whatever new wave artist is about to blow up then takes half their debut album (colonizes it basically)
"And notice I said WE, it's not just me, I'm what the culture feeling"
most people are tired of new rap music streams down 40-50%. who wants to hear the same thing over and over when people aren't living like that
confirmed made up statistic btw
I've been listening to tame impala.
you listen to the lyrics?
I agree, that's why I make my own stuff and upload it onto my channel. I have hundreds of beats I sit on until ambition strikes. I gotta feel it in my soul, with the rhythm and the rhymes.
You right I don’t want nobody to “eat it up like a plum.” Shit is getting weirder and weirder.
I stopped listening to Drake deeply after scorpion. I used to listen to all his music back in highschool and bumped all his music. Then his music started to come off very lame and mediocre to me. I went from being hype for his release dates to knowing his album came out and not caring. It’s funny because you said the same about scorpion too. So it’s not just me. The rapping DOES feel empty. He’s almost 40 and making types of music new generation is making. And comes off like a culture culture. His music is so bland to me now like he’s taking shortcuts. He finally got a song with Cole, cole kills it, then he jumps on the beat switch with that “ay ay ay” mediocre bars on the same song when you nknow he’s better than that. I HATE his new beat switches and half ass lyricism. It’s almost like he doesn’t know who he is.
Nailed it! He doesn’t know who he is !!
For me, it was how many of his albums have replay value: I listened to “Honestly Never Mind” & “For All The Dogs” one time but kept the others on repeat.
The musical decline with Drake started at Views. Child’s Play is the only song that still matters on that album
That's because he's literally an actor- he created this persona and it's inauthentic. He also has arrested development which is why we see no growth in his music. Can you tell me any long term relationship this man has had with anyone? Not that it's our business but how he lives his life is what he expresses in his music and he shows zero growth- he was actually more in tune emotionally ten yeas ago and more mature then than he is now. Keeping up with the kids is making him create monotonous music- because he knows it will always sell- for now. How dope would it be for him to actually create some real Art again- imagine him on a track reflecting about serious relationships and contemplations. I loved his stuff with Noah ten years ago.
I personally love the beat switches as it offers you more songs to listen to, I just see it as 2 songs in one, and I personally like both parts. I focus more on the beats, melodies and how he finds pockets and flows on the beats to match the vibe of the beat with his voice, so I personally enjoy listening to his new rap stuff. In terms of lyrism, I don't think I can recall any quotable or meaningful lines with relatable substance from Drake's music in recent years, other than maybe Fair Trade from CLB "I've been losing friends and finding peace
But honestly, that sound like a fair trade to me", I relate to the chorus and some other lines. I just listen to him because of the sonics of the beat and the quality of the sound, and his voice and flow matching the beat well, I find it pleasing
The algorithm has a sense of humor showing me this at the RIGHT time too.
Drake is being the McDonald’s of rap is a great quote
I’m 31, I’m married, I have two kids & I stopped listening to the majority of hip hop I listed to in my 20’s because it just didn’t suit me anymore.
Drake had a whole 1 minute verse where he talked about “not hanging out with broke n*ggas”
It’s awesome when artists grow up with you but some don’t and that’s okay too.
It’s just not for you anymore
I love the idea of this album being the catalyst for rap falling into itself and being forced change in order to survive. The big money, big cars, big bootys and big chains stuff has passed.
Be the people really rapping get no exposure.
@@avonbarksdale91because it's not part of the agenda. You think the powers that be want you educating yourself expanding your intelligence listening to music with a positive message? 😂 No, they want you dumb, committing crimes, stuck in their prisons, and broke. Drake can get you there
We had this before though, with the"hip hop is dead" movement in response to bling-rap in the early-mid noughts. Kweli, Common, early Ye, Lupe etc helped birth another wave of backpack, conscious rap. Funnily enough, Drake, J Cole and later Kendrick came up off the back of that in 2009. Current radio rap is trash, but that will open a new gap in the market...
@@tmbrtn7107only artists I can say have a decent flow rapping on stuff or beats that aren’t really considered “rap” is $NOT, Ghostemane, Ayce Comet, and a literal few others.
XXXTENTACION’s cool too, his music.
I’ve been listening to more alternative, indie type stuff. Like Poorstacy for example.
It’s what I upload as well. But other than that…. It’s R&B like Daniel Caesar, or Brent Fiyaz. Or just straight up meditation music from Rocky’s producer Clams.
@@tmbrtn7107this is basically my mindset, this entire discussion has happened back in 99-2010. I took a break from rap music 2013-2016 and Before that folks were going on about the poor state of music and 'the culture ' rap itself is in a transitional period. The culture and the black community idk, that is the sad part
“I’m what the culture feelin” K Dot
This aged very well😊
Thank you
So is it the culture or is it Drake?
@@rubenlozano377 It's both. Drake is a symptom of a larger disease. But people waking up to it now.
This…definitely makes me sad cause at one point Drake was going crazy.
Some of his old stuff makes me feel like I’m on top of the world even all these years later.
He’s definitely not hungry anymore and a part of me wishes he would just hang it up because collectively people are agreeing his newer stuff ain’t it.
He sounds the exact same as he always has. You just getting older and the only reason you like his “old” stuff is just nostalgia purposes. I dont know your age, this is just an example: maybe take care came out when you was 16 it sounded good because you was 16 but then 10 years later all the dogs come out you are 26 he sounds the same as take care but u just older. Say if he put out for all the dogs when you was 16 you would think it was amazing then 10 years later he drops take care, you would be screaming how u miss “the old” drake. There is no old drake, drake hasnt changed or innovated in like 10 years. He has had the same formula. If u flip drakes eras to your age you will fill the same way regardless.
@@AP90x has nothing to do with nostalgia .... good music is good music that is why some is timeless and some is trash
@@AP90xnah bro if I had FATD first and then take care? I’d say I got me a perfect character arc build… frfr
@@AP90x he does not sound the exact same. Compare some garbage like Search and Rescue to Tuscan Leather,Two Birds One Stone,Pound Cake,5am in Toronto
Looking for a deeper meaning within 'hood' culture or trap music is a non-starter within itself. And yes, aging plays a part into it. I remember being as young as 18 in the early 2000s thinking to myself..there's no way I'm going to be listening to three six mafia when i'm 50 years old. I'm 37 now and still listen to some of that in small degrees, but I can still listen to a whole lot of hip-hop from the late 80s all the way to the 2000s for a lifetime.
Nigga trying to find a life lesson in entertainment💀
Same my guy
When you're married with two kids, its hard to rap along with Big Pimpin' these days.
@tmbrtn7107 I feel you and know what you mean, but to me, being married and having children IS big pimpin'.
It sounds cool and that’s pretty much it for me. The topics are trashy af and always have been. I don’t get why that’s what it has to be, but then people hate on rappers like hopsin and “wholesome Christian rappers” for being corny. If the rhyme and flow is good and the beat is good ok here for it. I just hate that I have to suppress lyrical meaning and the often terrible human being who is making the music. The best sounding music is unfortunately usually coming from these people. There’s some more “conscious” stuff but even that gets too backwards hood culture too…Kanye, J Cole, Kendrick come to mind, sorry it’s true.
We need more uplifting music. Why not hip hop that talks about love, eating right, exercise, saving and investing, going to therapy, volunteering, and donating to charity? Why does it have to be about shooting people, doing drugs, and disrespecting women and men of your ethnicity.
Proud of this young man for speaking on this. Well articulated
So glad you’re coming to this realization but at as a young black woman, I stepped away from the culture 5 years ago @ 20 or 21. My mom is a boomer and I could only listen to r&b & my dad was a musician so we could only listen to jazz with him. I didn’t get exposed to rap until HS(when I would sneak it with my bad influence friends). It wasn’t until I got grown & was finally legal to go to clubs & buy drinks and realized how dangerous trap music is towards women especially black girls, since we’re the demographic where the sexual degradation & violence is aimed towards in the music. Ppl really don’t realize these guys really perpetuate what they hear in music towards women & other men in real life & it’s scary when you’re on the receiving end of a “lifestyle” you don’t even participate in! It’s hard to get friends when they all engage in the lifestyle they hear in music & you don’t. I’m 26 now & have continuously only listen to old r&b & SOME new age r&b & have given up on the idea that any positive music in the black community will ever go mainstream to change the culture ☹️
This is refreshing to read. I’m also 26 and my parents never exposed me to rap or R&B or any of that type of music and I listen to it here and there it’s good to maybe dance to in the clubs but I don’t go out of my way to seek those kind of songs because they don’t really do much for me. Like if anything EDM is really where my interests lie, you don’t really get any negativity out of that it’s just good beats and good energy.. so it’s great to see someone else that has kind of grown up similarly and I completely feel you on the trying to make friends part when you don’t listen to what they listen to
@@Scarlet-Enchantress yes it’s lowkey depressing. If you’re someone who doesn’t want to constantly hear about someone “shooting their ops,” or “fckin to get a bag,” you’re considered weird…like damn I don’t always want to listen to music that gets me hyped up and angry!
@@babyg7796yup got made fun of my senior year of high school bc I chose not to participate in their degenerate activities
it’s the 808s that fuck your vibration
Black woman are 3x more likely to die from intimate partner violence. And of course the black male response to Megan Thee Stallion being shot.
I don't think it's because you're 'getting older'. Because I get the impression most people are getting sick of it. It used to be an evolving thing that had unique sounds / topics around the corner. Since like 2015 it's just dragged and become formulaic / childish / depraved / soulless. If you look at the stuff The Alchemist has been doing there's still good stuff around, but barely.
Shoutout MIKE, MAVI, Navy Blue, and Alchemist, Roc Marciano, etc…
@@FelixSkura 🎯
@@FelixSkurasmino, saba, Isaiah Rashad, noname,
dude just rapped lmao
Glad someone pointed this out. The conversations in the comments are all very good too. I’ve grown up with Drake since I was a kid like most, there’s an album or song for every moment or experience in my life. It’s been a journey but with that being said FATD just sounded tired and uninspired. I’m 26 now with a wife and kid (another on the way) and I find it hard to relate to Drake because he hasn’t matured even at 36. This album just didn’t hit the same because time changes and people grow up.
Ngl I’m just listening to Drake for the vibez and Rythm. I loved for all
The dogs .
This video aged like fine wine
The title alone is perfect. I’ve been noticing how the culture lately has just been off. But I can see how this drake stuff makes someone realize that mfs let drake slide for wayyy too long…
I'm not even an expert or anything but the fact that Drake was being considered the GOAT had me wondering "is he truly the best you guys have because yiiiiiikess"
You somehow managed to articulate exactly how I’ve been feeling about the hip hop genre lately. Great job man!
So true. That's why I create my own stuff whenever ambition strikes. I have hundreds of beats I've made over the years I just sit on until the time is right.
Bless you for mentioning Earl, he's relatively overlooked and that's kind of down to him becoming more obscure with his flow/lyrics as his career has progressed but I genuinely think he is someone we're going to be talking about in 4/5 years the same way we talk about rappers like Lupe, Black Thought, MF DOOM and countless other great lyricists who seldom get the recognition they deserve, but seeing how he has made a conscious effort to stay out of the mainstream rap discourse through his multiple collaborations with various underground artists/unencumbered experimentation with his craft my guess would be that he prefers it that way.
Yiked this aged well!
Damn man it's crazy that people just NOW are realizing how trash today's music is and oversaturated.
I stopped listening to Hip Hop around 2019 and it's been a great decision because I have found great artist when I didn't subject myself to Listening to 1 genre of music now don't get me wrong I still listen to HIP HOP but not as much as I used to when just listening to that specific GENRE. I HAVE A REQUEST TO ALL THE PEOPLE READING THIS COMMENT LISTEN TO SOMETHING ELSE LISTEN TO JAZZ, METAL, ALTERNATIVE, PUNK, BLACK METAL, AND WATCH YOU OPEN DOORS TO COUNTLESS OTHER GENRES OF MUSIC YOU PROBABLY NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.
What’s some good alternative and metal albums and artists?
@@DreadknotNot man I've been listing to alot of alternative and metal. I will give you a MINI List of some of my favorite albums I have been listing too
TOOL - LATERALUS
MISFITS - STATIC AGE
THE CLASH - LONDON CALLING
Some Goth In there
CLAN OF XYMOX - CLAN OF XYMOX Self Titled Album
INTERPOL -TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS
Pop, soul, r&b, blues, country, soft rock, alt pop, dance, indie rock, indie pop, afrobeats, spanish pop, reggae. So many genres its endless.
@@Eli.347 EXACTLY so many different genres of music that people arent aware of don't get me wrong I still listen to Mumble Rap / TRAP Music But I've learned to be more open minded in terms of music. I would never in a million years think I would listen to ELVIS PRESLEY lol 🤣 but I guess as you grow older you're music taste just changes
@@DreadknotNot Metal is so broad that I could list 5 good albums but they won't sound similar at all,
my top metal albums
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
OM - Conference of the Birds (favourite band of all time)
Metallica - Master of Puppets (controversial I know)
Dark Throne - Blaze in the Northern Sky (first record that genuinely made me fearful)
Opeth - Still Life
Boris - Feedbacker
However broad Metal is, it does have the same problem as Hip-Hop where its massively oversaturated with the same sounds being regurgitated over and over again (not to mention this talk of "culture" when really it's just mindless, crowd following circle-jerking, which most if not all genres of music suffer) so it can be difficult to find genuinely inspired pieces of art. For this reason I have distanced myself from the genre over the last year or so and delved more into Folk, Jazz and Blues
Some great musicians to check out:
Bob Dylan, Robert Lester Folsom, Elliott Smith, Alex G, Mac Demarco, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, George Harrison's solo work, B.B. King, John Coltrane, J.J. Cale, Exuma, R. Stevie Moore, Steely Dan, BRIAN ENO, Jim Croce, Nick Drake I could go on and on and on. I know some of these names are iconic but you'd be surprised the wealth of music you have never heard from these names.
Jimi Hendrix as much as he is loved, nobody listens deeply to his discography, I recommend listening to Axis: Bold as Love from start to finish - perfect album.
As a teenager (16) who is really into music reason mainstream music appeals to me is because they look so "cool". Clearly this an answer is rooted in a very childlike additude but i feel like people my age having nothing of meaning except proving to the masses who can be the coolest by accumulating material things. I've also never thought about it being nihilistic . Definitely something to ponder. Great video.
You don't sound like a woman somewhat xD... bizarre
This is the saddest thing I've ever read
Bro think about other 16 year olds around the world, they’re busy trying to survive, especially seeing all the shit on social media, destroys the mental health. It’s good to be a narcissist as in always focus on yourself. Build good morals but also don’t let anyone step on you. As we go further in life, there is so much more information available to us
true [i'm 28 tho ] @@OMJNRG
I feel where you’re coming from, i felt how you felt somewhat at 16. But it’s like the season. That value is short lived and it’s best to catch the flaws now before it catches you. 💯
Everybody blames "the hood" them mfs didnt ask to be put on a pedestal its suburban kids imitating and copying them then complaining about it. You don't have to indulge, people from the hood never asked to be from there thats just the cards life dealt to them. A lot of yall need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why you obsessed and infatuated with their lives to the point it makes you feel inferior.
ay bro this was profound
as someone from poverty stop acting like they dont like the attention hella narcissist in the hood.
Good Point-
P.S. Drake Ain't From The Rough Side Either He Grew Up Kinda Upper Class
this the one! we talk about being tired of the same music content, but it's all many have been fixated on. I'm sure there are other artists dropping different shit, however they aren't getting noticed. We can't keep blaming ignorance, we do need to look in the mirror. WE'RE the one's funding the degenerate stuff by giving it streams.
@@BossMandotneti think the problem is the degenerates used to make good music but now they make degenerate-music as they should. people who indulged in that degeneracy are in a much elevated place now as the artists who made the music
so its nothing for those people to hear anymore and like. the new generation never got that starting from 2016 so they don’t know any better. and it’s not a casual “older generations hating on the younger” because we have people in their 20’s feeling the same way as well.
2016 happened because rap got too serious and it needed to be fun again. now that it got burned out, the new ungerground is combining the fun-ness and experimentation of the 2016 batch of artists with more substance. but overall, rap needs a change to value substance (even in degeneracy) and just make good music.
Drake has definitely fallen off, but at 26 I still LOOOVE good hip hop. I have such a deep appreciation for artists who have great beats, use their voice and flow as an instrument to complement and hit us with thoughtful poetry at the same time 🥰. Thank God for the Coles and Kendricks keeping it alive for us as we mature.
I agree, that's why I make my own stuff. I enjoy the craft and I feel it in my soul.
....you'd be surprised by how good music from your younger day sounds today....plus the memories when you jammed it back then.
Fallen off🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This Aged EXTREMELY WELL sir.
This is exactly why I pretty much strictly listen to underground rap and also other genres completely like electronic and house. There is just so much more music out there that’s just better than what the mainstream has done to rap and people will still listen to that type of music and see nothing wrong.
💯%. That's why I make my own stuff. I have hundreds of beats I've made over the years and just sit on until the ambition strikes to put rhymes over it. I got a few on my channel and could always use feedback and constructive criticism. Check it out if you want, or don't haha either way I use it as a form of meditation and enjoy it. Anyway take care.
completely agree with you when it comes to music. It has a spellbinding quality, and certain frequencies can evoke various emotions - sadness, anger, happiness, and more. That's why it's crucial to listen to songs that make you feel good and align with your values. However, I've noticed that at times, I catch myself listening to music with lower emotional vibrations. I'm actively working on reducing that tendency.
Literally stopped working out to hip hop and picked up dance music lol
The problem is with hip hop and rap nowadays it’s always about the same thing about big booties catching the bag, toxicity, basically lyrics that would “boost” someone’s ego it’s tiring because in all honesty it can really change how you view everything just by listening to a specific artist or song
I'm inclined to believe it might be the braids.
This guy makes the verses sound so much more poetic than they actually are
you just took my thoughts right out of my head…drake seems like he’s so bored and not challenged by anything not only artistically, but in his life as a whole. and it’s not helping that his sales are consistently huge even though the quality of his music went down drastically over the years. AND it’s also not helping that he can’t receive any criticism (as it seems from his songs) - because he’ll always come back with “fuck the haters, i am richer and more successful than any of you”. he’s surrounded by yes men (including himself) and he’s not pushing himself to put out a consistently great body of work (that’s also not 39 songs long)
i feels so comforted hearing this. i’ve been feeling this way once i got off the high of a new album. everyone’s been saying they miss the old drake since Thank Me Later, the people back then dont even realize how lucky they were compared to todays music from him.
“You make music that pacify em”🤷🏾♀️
I agree with everything you've said. I'm not interested in a lot of modern mainstream music, and pretty much don't listen to mainstream rap/hip-hop AT ALL because it's just become something that's soulless. I noticed it when chilling with my brothers and they played recent hip-hop and I was like "is this really what's trending, this is kinda terrible". Plus, it's pretty much only ppl in hip-hop getting murked and no other genre but no one questions why. As Joey Bada$$ said "if it ain't real, I don't feel it, if it don't hit my spirit I don't get near it, point blank period"
RIP STEEZ bruh
@@FelixSkura literally bruhhh, that one still sucks. STEEZ was something else, we lost a true gem ong
This is a refreshing video that actually gives me hope for the future. I was worried your generation was lost to pollution of social media. I grew up during the rise of 90s hip hop and saw the best the industry had to offer. I'm an old man now and I feel bad that the twenty somethings of today don't have the same quality of music to look forward to that defined the culture of my era.
Drake is a victim of his own success. In many ways, no one challenged him to become better and his last several projects have essentially been nothing more than cries for help. FATD is a signal that his time in the limelight is over.
Since I love playing Monday morning quarterback, I will say that Drake's interests would have been much better served by him developing future artists and having an album featuring their voices. He could have become the equivalent of Young Money in introducing the world to him and Nicki. But, he missed this boat and lost a lot of respect along the way.
I hope he takes the next couple of years to focus on making a meaningful contribution to the industry...if not through music directly, at least he can try to eave the culture in a better place than when he found it and masqueraded within it.
Really great comment. I completely agree on everything except the fact that it’s too late. He can change whenever he wants and only if he wants.
bro you are literally spitting
THIS. I’m so serious, yesterday I was listening to some Hip-Hip music and I swear it had an effect on me like it just felt like it was vibrating at a lower frequency. I had spent the morning meditating and in prayer and listening to some pretty uplifting music and then I went to play some records to practice my djing skills, it was like my spirit felt icky for listening to these songs. And this is coming from me. Someone who teaches Hip-Hop at a University. So many things I love about the culture and the history but it breaks my heart sometimes to see it diluted like this.
Drake's ability to Adapt with The Times is essentially what keeps him in the spot. He is, hes really good at doing that. And that's why he was deemed a Culture vulture
The problem is that hes getting old, but he asked young, which is one of the fundamental issues with rap. You're always fighting the new generatyou. Need to find a way to step out and do other things.
He doesn’t adapt. He’s a wave rider. Always has been always will be. It’s so obvious he doesn’t write 70-80% of anything he puts out and dare I say 90% of this last album.
Central Cee his biggest culture vulture move in a WHILE, but at the same time he is actually helping him out so it is positive for sure
@@Griggboat I think his biggest culture vulture move is linking up with these young women who are literally half his age like Ice Spice and Sexxy Redd. Man needs to find a woman that actually cares about him not adult stars or young rappers.
@@negispringfield6156and the Bobbi interviewer girl, man has 0 shame fr.
Enlightening comment. I have a lot of respect for J. Cole, have been listening to MIDDLE CHILD a lot lately and this comment helped me understand why.
Cole, unlike Drake, understands his position in the culture. He knows he's starting to age as a rapper, but acknowledges his worth regardless while separating himself from the true OGs and the new gen. He's flexible enough to change with the times while staying true to himself and reality. Drake is a hit making machine but it feels like he wants to be part of the young crowd too much.
At the same time it's frustrating, because we KNOW Drake can tap into something special if he wants to. But he doesn't need to
I been telling people this for years. Rap/hip hop is nothing but a popularity contest. That’s why I listen to so many other genres of music and underground rap. We gotta stop measuring greatness by money, wealth, and popularity
💯%. That's why I make my own stuff. I have hundreds of beats I've made over the years and just sit on until the ambition strikes to put rhymes over it. I got a few on my channel and could always use feedback and constructive criticism. Check it out if you want, or don't haha either way I use it as a form of meditation and enjoy it. Anyway take care.
Hardley even popular it’s the fastest genre of music on the decline. Latin has surpassed and is the biggest music genre followed by electronic and country . Rap at one point was the most popular
Fine wine
"Like how do you know to take off the mask" 4:09 I recall Kendrick saying "Take that mask off, I wanna see what's under them achievements" to Drake in meet the grahams.
Honestly i agree, mainstream rap is fast food music now.. it all comes and it goes and i feel like tik tok is the main reason for that. rappers are trying to make trendy songs instead of quality music. I started branching out last year and found out about artist like Smino, Saba, jordan ward, larry june and i also started listening to more Jid, earthgang and denzel curry. Drake use to be my favorite artist but you can tell he’s not really trying, that run from 2011-2015 was special.
You named some fire artists 🔥.
More like 2009-2015. So Far Gone is a classic.
@@iDontUploadiJustSub you right you right
@TyDixon Good Job you’re doing good 🍊
@@iDontUploadiJustSub2008 was good for him too
Drake started out very introspective and honest. Real, human. But now…..we got a Drake that’s less real and human then ever. It makes me sad. Cause take care over my dead body is insane. Hope another rapper comes on and has that level of depth and lyricism again
You didn’t listened to the album if you saying this smh lol
@@malcolmthompson9555as a drake fan this new project feels empty. Their still good songs though and I’m playing it still but he definitely lost his way. The increasing bars about the streets is annoying knowing full well he doesn’t need to be around any of those guys but if that’s the life he wants then so be it. We still have old drake albums to listen to 😂
Well, he still release "old school introspective drake" songs sometimes: Chicago Freestyle, Churchhill Downs
@@kuda6578this the stupidest comment I ever seen
@@kuda6578 lost his way ? He still singing about heartbreak. Virginia Beach, drew a Picasso,BBL interlude, polar opposite, tried our best, slime you out, Bahama promises, members only, Amen, calling for you. That’s 10 songs! It’s okay not to like but the assessments are horrible. It’s like an echo chamber. Everyone hears and have the same opinion on things thanks to hater Joe
Right there with ya, Felix. After casually going through the album, I realized either I'm getting old, or the "modern" rap/hip-hop just ain't that good.
💯%. That's why I make my own stuff. I have hundreds of beats I've made over the years and just sit on until the ambition strikes to put rhymes over it. I got a few on my channel and could always use feedback and constructive criticism. Check it out if you want, or don't haha either way I use it as a form of meditation and enjoy it. Anyway take care.
24 was generous lol... A minoooooooooooooooooor
I think the problem is Drake is holding on to his youth for whatever reason, and the people who grew up with his music once related to his content but have now grown up, whereas it seems Drake hasn’t, or is refusing to in order to hold on to an older image of himself. Drake would be far more well received if he actually grew with his fans who’ve been there since the jump. It serves rappers of older age to space out their albums. Drake is dropping an album every year like he’s got a new story to tell, and he forcing it. He needs to start getting creative again and make music that’s actually relevant to himself instead of acting like a guy who peaked in highschool on the football team and looks over his old football reels.
I still like rap but I'm listening to R&B more and more. There's a reason why these new rappers are flopping on the billboard, aren't selling out shows, and have low selling albums..the music is stale, tainted, and they're not trying anything new except a handful.
Drake still makes great music but its very repetitive.
I feel this heavy. Drake posted a photo w/ Sexyy Red & some wack caption and that was it for me. Also, anecdotal correlation as a native Houstonian, the energy of HTX has a significantly darker vibe since he bought property here.
Thank God for K.
THE BEST THING about this video is he said this unprovoked. It’s easy to say things like this now, after K-Dot gave Drake an atomic wedgey in front of the whole world. It to say it beforehand, gives me hope.
Maybe there are still some free thinkers out there who actually care about the culture of hip hop. His analogy about Drake being like McDonalds was SPOT ON! All music, to a certain extent, is an a kind on “inhale and exhale”. The creators express their work, and the consumers experience it. But what’s happening know is different. Literally, Drake is un-evolved. He’s the exact same dude musically and personally. Not evolving is not natural. It dumbs you down. Stagnates you.
Look at any successful creator with longevity and you will see an entirely different person from the beginning of their career, compared to the end. Drake came in talking about hitting females and today… 🤦♂️ Ok Drake… we get it. You can get random females to have unprotected sex with you. What else is going on with you after all this time?
Regardless of who you’re a fan of, this is a Great video!
Nas’s new album was a breath of fresh air. Hip-Hop has been on the decline for a while, which prompted me to go back and listen to other genres of music, dive deeper into the catalogs of my favorite hip-hop artists (nas, wu tang, pun, etc) or listen to hip-hop from 80s- about early 2000s. I’ve always had an old soul so that’s probably why a lot today’s music don’t hit with me.
look into earl sweatshirt, all of griselda, jid, mick jenkins, mike, vince staples. theyre all either boom bap or jazz rap. gives me early 2000s vibes with a mix of their own uniqueness
@@cryptickrypton1885I appreciate you! I’m aware of Griselda, my older brother is an older hip-hop head and he suggested them too lol I had some Dave East and JID in my old phone so I’m going back to listen more of their catalogs. A part from J. Cole and Kendrick, I got some current artists but just not enough of their music like Cordae. Thanks for the suggestions!!! 💪🏾
@@cryptickrypton1885 You sound like my cousins! I call them music snobs 'cause they don't even accept the usual top 5 Nas/Jay Z/Biggie placements- I don't even think they listen to Nas anymore. I'm scared to even share my opinions anymore- I tried to send my cuz an old AZ joint (How Ya Livin) just to reminisce and told him AZ recently had a concert and he was like 'AZ has no business still doing concerts'- I was low key deflated, lol. I'm going to give Mick Jenkins a go again- they suggested him to me years ago and it wasn't my thing. I hope you're not my cousin btw- everything you wrote is what they F with.
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h I love AZ, especially when him and Nas do tracks together. I’m planning on listening to the Firm album soon.
@@shayanagriffin Yes! AZ is my childhood man, his distinctive voice is so reminiscent of that late 90's NY Hip Hop era to me.
Kendrick really collected all the Drake hate before he tore him down
“its not just me im what the culture feelin
I heard someone recently say that people love hip hop but couldn't care less about rap and I completely agree with that statement. Don't get me wrong I like listening to yeat, but we need more mainstream music going back to it's roots. Rap was great when it was about uplifting the culture.
You're saying what a lot of us think but are afraid to practise - we just gotta do the shit we enjoy, even if it's not the stuff others enjoy or what's popular to enjoy. I mean, isn't that what being happy is about? Enjoying our time here and doing what we love? Salute to you brother and thank you for the insightful video, all my love to anyone reading, peace.
Where a lot of people would probably take you for a conscious whiner, I believe you make a lot of sense. As a Drake fan who finished my high school education (Thank Me Later) and began my undergraduate degree (Take Care) to his music; I would say it played a significant backdrop to my life. Break ups, hanging with the guys, and growing more into myself I vibes with many of his songs.
I’m 31 now, married with two kids and there’s a lot of Drake’s music I just don’t relate to anymore. I will forever respect his transitioning R&B into Rap and global influence on music as a whole, but bro starting to lose me for sure. Thanks for posting this video, fam. Gave me some real space to reflect on dope music, wack music and how both affect the culture we live in. Preciate it.
I’m so happy that young people are doing the knowledge…
Powerful message.
Kendrick put out a classic but y'all weren't ready so you shunned it so now might be the time
....yall kdot virgins are not cool and will never be cool .
This kendrick drake thing will never change that.
Go play 2k and watch DragonBall my boy
@@jjjjjj3423 K dot virgins? Sir are you a virgin? There's absolutely nothing to be ashamed of if you are
Kendrick be saying the same stiff people have been saying for a long time. People need some actual education. We dont need a constant flashlight pointed at various cockroaches in the night in the same kitchen (Black ghettos) we've heard about for the last 40 years.
If Kendrick wants to say some REAL shit. He's going to need to do research on the government, the cia, the feds, take a deep dive in the history of the business he's in. Learn the names and say it loud and proud. He's going to need to teach yall some Gnostic and hermetic practices and educate yall on alchemy. Yall been talking in circles for far too long. Wu Tang tried but yall didn't listen because your too caught up with relatability as opposed to elevation.
@@TallicaMan1986 Every artist be saying the same stuff people been saying, there's literally nothing new under the sun. Kendrick is not a journalist he's an artist, he talks about his life experiences and does not give a damn about relatability otherwise he would not have made MMATBS
@@Toka-wt3pm you only think this because you too have been going in circles.
Tyler the Creator is one of the best artists out right now imo. He isn't trying to put on a gangsta persona, or trying to be all masculine and macho, or trying to be some 1-dimensional womanizer (like Drake) or whatever. Tyler is himself: a weird, flamboyant, quirky, open troll. He doesn't express the Culture, he expresses himself. And his music and production is the same; it's not generic trap beats and shit, he does his own production, with his very own unique style and identity. His older stuff is incredibly dark and gritty; some people may not like all the slurs and violence in his old stuff, but he was expressing himself at the time and remaining true to himself. Post-Flower Boy Tyler is Tyler finally accepting his sexuality and opposing traditional views on masculinity and men that are ingrained in society. He's flamboyant and wears nail polish but is a more assertive, confident, levelheaded person than any "traditionally masculine" or "alpha" guy will ever be.
He's gay now right?
@@charlesahweyevu he's always been bisexual. He was VERY edgy in his older music and said the F-slur liberally, but in Flower Boy, he actually confirmed he's been gay for quite a while now: "I've been kissing white boys since 2004"
You could’ve just said he’s homosexual. Much less explaining required.
The thing is he paints his nails now as a straight man I don't condone that because maybe The Rock or Vin Diesel should do the same thing and let's see how that goes rapper sticking painting your nails as a straight black man is acceptable it's not
@@Zackey-Zackk why, what's gonna happen when The Rock or Vin Diesel put on nail polish?
I got into hiphop because it told it how I saw it. It was struggle music, but with a subliminal message of hope and the possibility for change. And so I indulged heavily. But over the past five or so years have found myself venturing into other genres. To be honest, theres a lot of genres keeping it more real than hiphop these days. It's so weird, because listening to hiphop, especially in your formative years, is about more than just music. It becomes an identity. Influencing everything, from how you dress to how you talk and behave. All derived from the premis that you like and identify with this type of music. And so what happens when that starts to erode? It's scary, because you have to stop up and reassess everything. At least thats where i found myself. And thats not to say that hiphop have gone completely stale or is dead. There are still people keeping the torch alive and continuously raising the bar. Black Thought, Earl Sweatshirt, Mick Jenkins, etc. But increasingly, if I want that real shit, I find myself reaching back in the catalogue or going elsewhere.
i feel that exact way man your great with words awesome comment!!
THANK👏🏾YOU👏🏾 I have been saying this about Drake for years. Not that there is a comparison because…there is not one…KENDRICK matured. And even when he started he was coming from understanding what Hip Hop/R.A.P. is and is about while still learning. You can tell that he respects it. He is a lyricist, a poet, an artist, he speaks of the culture of Hip Hop. He doesn’t care for the fame or to trend. He is a GROWN MAN and admits that he is still growing. Drake is an actor that is a pop artist that can flow like a rapper. FIGHT ME! I can’t and have not been able to tolerate a Drake track for damn near a decade and that is because I was 25 and the music was with my age and time. He is the age of a grown man but still a boy. No wonder age doesn’t matter to him…allegedly.
Yeeeessss👏🏾👏🏾 you hit on a ton of key points that are extremely important for us as consumers (of music, products, movies, ads, books, EVERYTHING) to recognize: a lot of what is popular culture is what is in the moment of what is socioeconomically happening in our world. do not be afraid to look elsewhere, go digging into who you are and artists who energetcially match you/what you want your energy and mindset to reflect. There's so much variety out there ♡
Sorry for the run-on sentence lol! New sub here, can't wait to check out other content of yours! Thank you for this video
True facts brother…💯. Thank you for this video…🙏🏾
This is why I have connected to the Amapiano music, to feed my soul straight from the motherland. This always raises my vibration to next levels. Even if i don’t understand the language.💯✨✨✨
2020’s got to be the lamest decade for Rap/Hip Hop. Too many female rappers are popping off from Tik Tok always talking about the most degrading and outrageous shit, music is made to blow up on Tik Tok. I feel like Afro Beats are a great to transition to and get your mind away from all the bullshit in Rap.
Bro words are like the finest wine
Much respect for putting out this take. You perfectly articulated exactly how I’ve been feeling not only about FATD but black music in general lately. 💯✊🏾
When I first saw the title for this, I wasn't sure why it got recommended to me because I never really got into Drake. I heard a few of his songs over the years but it never really did anything for me. But I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and journey.
I'm a musician and artist myself, and I used to be all about the "Top 40" when I was in early high school. Eventually I came to realize that I was only listening to it because it was popular. Around that time I started to dive deeply into classic rock, and became obsessed with the Beatles and countless other bands. I just enjoyed it so much more, and it stimulated my creativity a lot more as well. Fast forward to now, and anything I hear on the Top 40 sounds the exact same to me. I'm not even exaggerating.
I agree about the need to ask ourselves what music "could be" instead of just assuming that we need to keep being imitators of what already exists.
I feel hip hop is still alive, its just with the overwhelming amount of mainstream content out there, its hard to digust it. Meanwhile, acts like Griselda and others are thriving. People are just too lazy to find it.
I just came across this group called Coast Contra and they’re dope af. Aside from Cole and Kendrick, I also find myself going back to listen to the group you mentioned along with Dave East and Joey BadA$$. Cordae as well.
That’s one of the things I miss most about being younger. Was having the free time to be able to find music outside of the mainstream. Discovering new artists. Been feeling a lot of what you’re expressing in this video for a while now.
The sudden Drake hit is insane