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The first episode where I don't cringe at my Goku voice no more. Also in the earlier episodes, I think I was TRYING to NOT sound too similar to Gohan so the bass was kinda there to compensate. Now I don't need that no more!
My wife and I just started a rewatch and at episode 3 she said "Man I love Goku's voice actor so much." We both quote your inflections and tones in your delivery a looooot.
When you think about it, Frieza really is the lord of disrespect because between the king, the planet, and now the prince, he killed Vegeta three times over.
Even in the original dbz I never managed to see goku as anything related to smart. Its true he had the occasional good idea but I dont feel that was something that was carefully planned and then executed it was more like he felt it out and it worked and sometimes it doesn't
I love how Frieza getting the chance to finish saying "Kaio-What" is not only the point in the series where kaioken stopped being relevant, but also the point in the series where "Kaio-what" ended as a joke
I love the simple idea of an articulate, refined villain growing increasingly frustrated as his beautifully crafted threats and one-liners are wasted on an innocent, cheerful hero who just simply doesn't get them.
I always liked how Freeza actually getting to say "Kaio-what?" without interruption put a nice capstone on that joke and it was then retired with grace, Death Battle notwithstanding.
I think a nice one if they ever do more could be when he went super saiyan kaioken in other world against pikon And simply says super kay-o-ken causing king Kai to say “super what!?” Just a nice switch up on the joke
@@Praisethesunson Death Battle is a long running internet series looking into 2 different characters and deciding who would win a battle to the Death. The episode in question was their episode Goku vs Superman, where MasakoX voices Goku and the refer to that “Kaio-what?” Joke in the episode.
Vegeta's "NOOOooo!" is still one of the funniest lines because there's so much emotion behind it that didn't need to be there, but the fact that it is makes it about 100x better.
As a kid, I actually remember the reveal that Goku had been using the Kaioken the whole fight. It hit me hard because the whole time kid me was going "I can't wait til Goku uses the Kaioken. That'll show Frieza" So learning that the Kaioken had been useless was a little devastating to child me.
That felt like a huge asspull from Toriyama to speed through the fight. Refusing to show us the kaio-ken's aura just so he can pull the rug out from under you and be like "actually he's been using it the whole time!" Like 🥷 what?
@@fiddlesticks7245to be fair, toriyama only had his hands in the manga, where its just black and white, meaning no one could really know if he was using kaioken or not. The anime i think did more of the asspull, since they just showed scenes from before then adds in the kaioken aura, and toriyama isn't really responsible of how the anime portrays things
@@kal973 Toriyama constantly drew Goku using the kaio-ken and having a distinctive aura around himself when he used it. He did that for Goku VS Nappa, VS Vegeta, when he shows his power level to Ginyu, and when he tries the x20 Kamehameha on Freeza. What you said is wrong, especially as Toriyama was so slow that the anime more than caught up with him and was doing the Goku VS Freeza fight BEFORE Toriyama made the "he's actually been using the kaio-ken this whole time!" bullshit. Don't blame the anime, they were working with what Toriyama gave them in the manga.
The character writing from the Frieza + Ginyu force did it for me, but this definitely seals it. A far cry from the quality of Season 1, and I’m proud on that front alone.
Oh man, I came in to the series late. The first episodes I saw were when guru was introduced. When I went back to watch the rest of the series I was like "are these the same guys even..?"
20:59 is probably my favorite joke in Season 2. Idk why, it just kills me the way Frieza doesn't even respond, he just lurches forward, almost like he's trying to assess exactly HOW Goku can be this stupid, and the sound effect choice is just perfect.
It is a good one to be sure, but my favorite joke in Season 2 (and quite possibly the series as a whole) is when Vegeta and Zarbon are bantering and then Zarbon says “Alright Vegeta I’m going to be totally honest with you. This is sounding REALLY GAY.” So much about that just hit me the right way. The line itself, the characters, the delivery. Perfection.
Masako really did a great job with Goku / Gohan. Dubs tended to go "Japanese Clark Kent" with a deep booming chad voice, whereas Japan made Son Goku a playful childish trickster like... well, like Sun Wukong. He was really able to somehow capture the best of both worlds, in no small thanks due to the writing. This Goku isn't an embodiment of justice, or kung fu monkey goblin, he's a moron and a fighting savant.
Yeah, it’s an underrated art but it always sorta bums me out when a specific voice portrayal of a character gets so big that all va’s just try to do an impression of that voice rather than their own spin on things It especially wounds characters like Harley Quinn in most modern media Makes me so glad that her new show didn’t just feature an actress try and force herself to twist her voice into something that it just isn’t and makes a forced corny accent. I ADORE shit like steve blums ver of goku or the martin burke OVA version of sonics voice
What does bothers me is that adult Gohan and Bardock also have the same voice, despite having very different personalities from what you described. Did puberty just skip all three of their throats?
I think the word you were looking for with Frieza is "novel". What Goku provided Frieza was a novel experience, something fresh and exciting. Frieza is so used to certain kinds of reactions that he keeps lengthy lists of cliche responses, but then along comes Goku and it like nothing else before.
The whole dynamic between Frieza and Goku in DBZA is what makes the whole "what does repugnant mean" joke from DBS Broly hit so hard for me. It seriously felt like the official dub taking a cue from you guys. It's one of my favorite moments from that movie.
If they actually made more Super Shorts with movies, DBZA Goku will misinterpret the word as "Impregnate", "Who's the daddy who put a baby in the planet, is it the old Saiyan or the big stronger one?" and Freeza won't correct it for him and respond to Paragus, "This is why I have to kill him...". Which makes the ending way funnier with him going to Vampa and gifted Broly and friends his "Baby Shower" gifts
I kind of like how Goku's speech about Freeza being evil and murdering everyone feels kind of stiff. It's like Goku is so giddy about fighting Freeza that he has to verbally remind himself that Freeza is actually a monster and not just a challenge.
5:56 this is why I love the Kai version of this moment. Where Z tries to make it so that Vegeta was made to be a killer because of Frieza, the Kai version is of Vegeta telling Goku to be ruthless and be a true saiyan or he will never be a super saiyan. Vegeta also uses his final moments to tell Goku what really happened to planet Vegeta and starts crying at “After we saiyans served him faithfully, and blindly followed his every last order he…he betrayed us; he disposed of our race like common trash, wiped us from existence.” Capping it off by begging Goku to kill Frieza before finally dying.
In the manga he only tears up for his last sentence, in the French translation it's something like "I beg you, kill Freeza. He must die at the hands... of a Saiyan..." ("Je t'en supplie, tue Freeza. Il doit mourir... des mains d'un Saiyan".) Great scene.
Yes, i also like KAI version of Vegeta better. American dub of DBZ made him an asshole, like when Nappa cuts Tien hand , Vegeta literally says " He s been disarmed" ( TFS took it straight, just adding reactions like wind whistle)
Freeza's "Are you real?" in response to Goku's comment about being dead is one of my favorite responses in this show, just the absolute bewilderment in his voice rules so hard lol.
In Vegetas defense he is a child soilder that never knew a moment of peace utill he came to earth. He's a monster, but he never really had room to grow out of it
That's basically society in a nutshell. Introduce them to violence, death and inflicting suffering since childhood so they grow up cynical, aggressive and callous. It took a years of getting humbled repeatedly and possitive reinforcement from actual genuinely good people to get him to let go of that conditioning enough for him to become a non sociopath (for the most part) and actually enjoy it
"Oh please, everyone is always on about the children. I already tried leaving THEM alive, but all they end up doing is growing under my rule or dedicating their pathetic lives to revenge. Usually both. Really, killing them is a kindness. I can retract that kindness if you like, but then whose the villain?" My favorite line from this episode because it says so much about Frieza
The "Gerominoooo!" kick is honestly one of my favorite bits in the fight in terms of actual combat because they gave it just the right amount of force. Lingers on the kick for half a second, cuts to a literal single frame of Freeza flying through the air, and then BOOM, mountain! The visual and sound editing on it was top tier.
Fun fact about the whole Kaio-Ken aura thing: they didn't want to break the reveal in the anime, so Goku's aura only turns red after King Kai says he's been using it the whole time, even though Goku's aura had been blue up to that point. I find this to be quite amusing.
"Are you real?" Simple as this line is, it's always been one of my favorite Frieza lines. Like everything Goku says is more ridiculous/stupid than the thing before, so it's gotten to the point where Frieza's just staring in shocked bewilderment, legitimately wondering if he's hallucinating Goku. At least that's how I always took it, it's the look on his face as he says the line.
“You deserve a proper burial.” “Oh yes a ‘proper burial’. An unmarked grave on an empty planet in the middle of nowhere space… honestly I’d say it’s too good for him.” Hands down, my favorite quote in this entire episode 😂
It probably be amazing. The actress who voiced Tifa in the FF7 Machinabridged voiced kid Videl, so I can predict I can get a abusive/tsudere vibe from Abridged Videl.
LittleKuriboh is amazing as Frieza *period* ,but I think that he arguibly shines the best in this final stretch of Season 2 The fact that you can just *hear* Frieza slowly losing his composure and patience with every sentence out of Goku's mouth is hysterical
I freaking love that even though Frieza has very witty and savage insults Goku just kills Frieza’s momentum with his stupidity. I think of it as like if Vegeta and Frieza were playing tennis and Frieza was dominating Vegeta, then Goku shows up and when Frieza serves the ball Goku catches the ball and starts playing basketball with it, then while yelling FOUR kicks it into a soccer goal and says TOUCHDOWN, just taking the wind out of Frieza’s sails.🤣🤣
@@warlordofbritannia Chuck is a woman though! Lol. Well, apparently to Zarbon. Regardless, we ain't sure what their name is. Frieza just assumed it was Chuck because he's a dick! 🤣😂🤣
I always thought the "are you coming on to me?" line was referring to the fact that Chi Chi is most definitely a sadist and he's just used to stuff like that being someone coming on to him
Goku knowing at least that basic fact about bats actually makes sense when you consider he spent his childhood in the wilderness, meaning he'd probably encountered a few before.
@@the-nina-beans88 i think he called himself masako because he started to dub goku, so it's not a reference, he did just for that. plus in season 1 they had a small cast: if you need 1 person to voice piccolo vegeta and krillin...
@@valentds ntm masako wasn’t even gohans va in the first episode Its more of a happy coincidence that ties a nice little bow around things Anyone who remembers the early abridging/early voice acting era of the internet will tell you that pretty much everyone was playing everyone Unless you had a lot of money, tech, connections and networking skills; you were gonna be playing a LOT or characters yourself, most which don’t even fit your voice at all but someone had to do it. Case-in point: Kira buckland 💀 Or….just look up the full cast of Naruto Abridged-
I always thought the reason Goku didn't react to the blast at Vegeta was because it caught him off guard. He was expecting Frieza to be focused on him, and didn't think about him finishing off a defenseless bystander.
I liked his roshi in season, and I think if there a dragon ball abridged I'd wanna hear it with his Roshi. (Just saying that as a hypothetical.) Lani has a great bombastic Roshi voice but I really do like hearing all of Masako's takes on the characters.
Lani making a pun and staring at Kaiser waiting for his response is the most real thing, and then when he doesn't get it he just plays it cool and let's it go that takes effort. If you see this Lani, I noticed the pun and I enjoyed it.
I think it was the Mr. Beef pun at the end of the video after Recoome strips. Mr. Beef is also the name of a Chicago Italian restaurant that inspired a TV show called "The Bear".@@elnumbrotres
And when you get down to it, if you’re being grappled by a far more powerful opponent, biting WOULD be your best tool in that instance. It’s effective AND hilarious!
"I thought you had it." "NAOOoo!" "Are you real?" "Good lord I traded Vegeta for this." "Piccolo should really have a talk with him." "He's has Bat-Vision!" "I miss Zarbon." "How do you function?!" "Are... you coming onto me?" "YoU'rE WELcome." "But can you block?" Just so many great, great lines in this episode.
This episode easily has one of my favorite Kamehamehas by Lawrence. That combined with the Kaio-Ken was just amazing, it really showed how much he grew into the role.
I really like hearing you guys react to your own work. And don't be too hard yourselves. When I was a broke teenager living with people thanks to my drug addicted mom, Dbz Abridged Literally helped me get through those hard times. I would even go to the public library to watch dbz abridged
My gran passed the other day and I was in a completely understandable catatonic state, going through the motions and processing stuff. This comes up in my subscriptions and I just have to have something going while I’m cleaning. And even though I knew the punchline and repeated it for years, the “rhetorical answer” gag was the first thing all say to make me bust out laughing uncontrollably, took me out of my shock. This stuff is still gold is all I want to say. Your writing and everyone’s delivery is still gold to this day.
Damn, my grandma slipped away...gracious, a month ago? Less? About four years after my grandpa, and I had swapped out with my dad to housesit with her, saw her off to the ambulance he called to get her checked out, and a week later, my dad back for the night after his daily time up with her at the hospital, we got the call. That absence is no doubt gonna hit as time goes on, but the world keeps turning all the same, so here's hoping we keep coming into more of this world to turn ourselves toward as we move along with it all.
Finding out that this infamous “remix” you guys refer to is the infamous “weeklytubeshow2” from my middle school days has brought me an insurmountable amount of joy and I thank you guys for doing this series as a huge fan
That opening with "'Why didn't you block that one?' 'I thought you had it' 'NO!!!!'" landed this as my favorite episode right off the bat. Then Frieza bashing his metaphorical head against the brick wall of Goku's ignorance just kept cementing that fact.
It reminds me of Yami's battle with Melvin in YGOTAS despite this coming first. It's just satisfying to see a sadistic enemy lose their sanity over someone so stupid and/or annoying.
MasakoX is so good at doing both Goku and Gohan that I had no clue they were played by one guy until I read it somewhere but it also immediately made perfect sense.
I like to think that after escaping Freeza, the crab crawled to Vegeta, stuck to him for the longest time, then helped him achieve Super Saiyan much later
10:56 I appreciated moments like this in DBZA, there was a very infamous nightmare inducing animation error during the Android Saga - in DBZA it was literally reduced to one frame 😂
Might be my most watched episode of season two. The humor, the deliveries, the pacing, all of it is SO GOOD. In particular Goku using his instincts is my absolute favorite scene in this saga, and Vegeta's "NOOO"
On the subject of the anime's pacing, I think I made a note once of there being around nine minutes between Tenshinhan showing up and 18 leaving after Cell eats 17. She sits there and watches him put triangular pegs into square holes for most of that time. It's not just the filler and flashbacks that make it suffer; the pace of dialogue and simple interaction is glacial as well.
Which TFS does make a huge running gag out of in that fight. 18's continued presence on that island in canon can best be described as "because plot needs Cell to absorb her at the end".
It was early 2012 when a uni friend mentioned that DBZA was a thing. I binged episodes 1-27 in 2 days and from then on, I saw each episode as they premiered. Thanks for the memories!
Yeah Masako is good at making his Gohan and Goku sound different, I remember him doing that well in Kämpfer abridged as well when he voiced both male and female natsuru
The ‘Frozen Peas’ joke works on a multitude of levels. There’s the obvious bit (as was pointed out) regarding The Brain from ‘Animaniacs’ and how Maurice Lamarche nailed the Orion Wells connection. As Lani also alluded to, Lamarche also did a bit portraying the actual Orson Wells on ‘The Critic’ (criminally underrated show btw) using the exact same voice. The peak of all of this is in the ‘Animaniacs’ episode ‘Yes, Always’, (probably my favorite episode of the entire show) which features Lamarche as The Brain portraying Orson Wells while making the Frozen Peas commercial, an episode that had its genesis in the fact that Lamarche uses the whole Frozen Peas bit as his mic check for The Brain and the writers eventually just ran with it and built a whole episode around it. Probably nothing that everyone didn’t already know, but I just had to fangirl about that for a minute.
I thought the brain joke was a reference to when homer is looking for peanuts and finds $20. He’s upset but then his brain tells him he can get a lot of peanuts
When Freeza was drowning Goku and we heard the brain say 'frozen peas' I thought it was saying 'rest in peace '. It's like a misheard lyric and I cannot unhear the 'rest in peace' in my mind.
i like it when you guys talk and discuss things around the episode a lot more than just watching the episode itself, don't be afraid to pause it! we're here for your commentary on things!
The first episode where I don't cringe at my Goku voice no more. Also in the earlier episodes, I think I was TRYING to NOT sound too similar to Gohan so the bass was kinda there to compensate. Now I don't need that no more!
Always legitimately impressive to me you can keep those ultimately quite similar voices very distinct from eachother
I just read that in your goku voice lol
It's fine I like it
My wife and I just started a rewatch and at episode 3 she said "Man I love Goku's voice actor so much." We both quote your inflections and tones in your delivery a looooot.
Any more. You meant any more.
When you think about it, Frieza really is the lord of disrespect because between the king, the planet, and now the prince, he killed Vegeta three times over.
The JV4 stock.
"My son, the planet or me?"
"...yes."
@@lilylopnco friggin smartass
I see Scott’s replaced his soyjak face with a slasher smile in these thumbnails. Honestly, completely preferable.
OMG, Butarega WASN'T being a smartass!!!
I love that the "Goku is a combat savant" writing paid off with Goku planning the entire Cell saga by treating it as a big fight.
And the brain damage. And the brain damage. And the brain damage.
The funny thing is, Goku canonically is a combat savant; they just really connected it to the plan with Gohan and how he treats his battle with Cell
Even in the original dbz I never managed to see goku as anything related to smart. Its true he had the occasional good idea but I dont feel that was something that was carefully planned and then executed it was more like he felt it out and it worked and sometimes it doesn't
Like with aizen, it was "all according to plan"
@@kingkaydengaming2786translator note: Plan means cake
In today's episode, Freeza removes yet another letter from 'Painball' to create 'Pinball'.
Oh my god that's amazing.
Give this man a medal
I honestly never stopped to think about that. 🤣🤣🤣
He should've removed ball and just go for Pin, seeing Goku is scared of needles.
@@Nintendoggy You ruined it and i'm leaving
I maintain that Freeza's "because suicide is the coward's way out" banter is fantastic, and it's _tragic_ that it's wasted on Goku.
I am stealing that line as a DM one of these days.
Then it became "pussed out like a bitch" from Hellsing.
And here's a retort to that
Then by all means... come at me coward
Then Yamcha dies, a few years later, by suicide in the original timeline.
Ironic.
Get your point, but Goku is the only one who sent friends away?
My favorite part in this episode "Why didn't you block that one!?" "I thought you had it?" "NOOOoooo"
Possibly my favorite line read in the whole series
@@mauriceiv1087 Same, the delivery on that "Nooooo" is just perfect.
Agreed
Yeah the whole delivery of that scene was perfect.
Mine too
I love how Frieza getting the chance to finish saying "Kaio-What" is not only the point in the series where kaioken stopped being relevant, but also the point in the series where "Kaio-what" ended as a joke
it was a glorious gag while it lasted. I still find Bardock's future vision showing him a moment of Goku using it my favorite instance.
Freeza
@@hustler666100 Freezer
I mean, those kind of go hand-in-hand. You can't really make Kaioken jokes if no one's using Kaioken.
He uses kaioken in ssj form in the end of dbz
"I didn't even die in those" One of my favorite bits. That final line is just 🤣
I love the poking fun at the little continuity goofs of the Dragonball series proper
I love the simple idea of an articulate, refined villain growing increasingly frustrated as his beautifully crafted threats and one-liners are wasted on an innocent, cheerful hero who just simply doesn't get them.
Absolutely perfect wording of their dynamic
Imagine Agent Smith but Neo does not at all understand his monologues.
"Then you're aware of it"
"Of what?"
"Our connection..."
"...Can we fight now?"
It's honestly very One Punch Man well before One Punch Man.
Sounds like an average D&D session to me
i love the increasing tolerance for Goku's bullshit from Vegeta to Freeza to Cell during all the sagas
I always liked how Freeza actually getting to say "Kaio-what?" without interruption put a nice capstone on that joke and it was then retired with grace, Death Battle notwithstanding.
I think a nice one if they ever do more could be when he went super saiyan kaioken in other world against pikon
And simply says super kay-o-ken causing king Kai to say “super what!?”
Just a nice switch up on the joke
It’s perfect because that’s the last time kaioken is relevant in the original run. I love these guys man
Death Battle? Aren't all of these fights death battles?
@@Praisethesunson Death Battle is a show on CZcams. They did Superman VS Goku a few years back
@@Praisethesunson Death Battle is a long running internet series looking into 2 different characters and deciding who would win a battle to the Death.
The episode in question was their episode Goku vs Superman, where MasakoX voices Goku and the refer to that “Kaio-what?” Joke in the episode.
"I pay my taxes one leg at a time" Goku knows how to do his taxes.
With his legs!
Masako had something about that czcams.com/video/egzyocki2_o/video.html
He pays his taxes with the meat of his kills.
Make sure you get the arm written off. Make that mistake twice, you won't be writing much.
"Good lord, I traded Vegeta for this." This is my favorite line from this episode.
Vegeta's "NOOOooo!" is still one of the funniest lines because there's so much emotion behind it that didn't need to be there, but the fact that it is makes it about 100x better.
“My butt is flaming!!!”
“I miss Zarbon…”
So funny 😂😂😂
Frieza sus😂
That scene always reminds me of early Slayers. "Lina, he's burning my bottom off!"
So does Chuck I’m sure…
I, too, have watched the episode
As a kid, I actually remember the reveal that Goku had been using the Kaioken the whole fight. It hit me hard because the whole time kid me was going "I can't wait til Goku uses the Kaioken. That'll show Frieza" So learning that the Kaioken had been useless was a little devastating to child me.
The most affirming line from this series: "Power levels are bullshit!"
That felt like a huge asspull from Toriyama to speed through the fight. Refusing to show us the kaio-ken's aura just so he can pull the rug out from under you and be like "actually he's been using it the whole time!" Like 🥷 what?
@@fiddlesticks7245to be fair, toriyama only had his hands in the manga, where its just black and white, meaning no one could really know if he was using kaioken or not.
The anime i think did more of the asspull, since they just showed scenes from before then adds in the kaioken aura, and toriyama isn't really responsible of how the anime portrays things
@@kal973 Toriyama constantly drew Goku using the kaio-ken and having a distinctive aura around himself when he used it. He did that for Goku VS Nappa, VS Vegeta, when he shows his power level to Ginyu, and when he tries the x20 Kamehameha on Freeza. What you said is wrong, especially as Toriyama was so slow that the anime more than caught up with him and was doing the Goku VS Freeza fight BEFORE Toriyama made the "he's actually been using the kaio-ken this whole time!" bullshit. Don't blame the anime, they were working with what Toriyama gave them in the manga.
@@fiddlesticks7245 I mean, Frieza is holding back immensely, Kaioken wasn't going make much difference, besides just making the thing even longer
Lani: "Maybe you can do it here?"
Kaiser: "Maybe..."
Narrator: "Kaiser did not do it here."
This is the episode that elevated my opinion from "This is a fun little series" to "Wow I think these guys might be geniuses"
The character writing from the Frieza + Ginyu force did it for me, but this definitely seals it. A far cry from the quality of Season 1, and I’m proud on that front alone.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 And they reprise that genius with both the androids and Cell. They're just fantastic character writers.
Oh man, I came in to the series late. The first episodes I saw were when guru was introduced. When I went back to watch the rest of the series I was like "are these the same guys even..?"
20:59 is probably my favorite joke in Season 2. Idk why, it just kills me the way Frieza doesn't even respond, he just lurches forward, almost like he's trying to assess exactly HOW Goku can be this stupid, and the sound effect choice is just perfect.
To this day, it's my favorite joke anyone has done
Yeah. I was curious about that. Seeing him process how dumb Goku is is hilarious with that sound.
The sound was Frieza literally *losing braincells* trying to fathom how Goku survived this long lol
It is a good one to be sure, but my favorite joke in Season 2 (and quite possibly the series as a whole) is when Vegeta and Zarbon are bantering and then Zarbon says “Alright Vegeta I’m going to be totally honest with you. This is sounding REALLY GAY.” So much about that just hit me the right way. The line itself, the characters, the delivery. Perfection.
I love that one. I always read that as a tilt joke since it comes right after the pinball sound effects.
When freaza says "Are you real" it's probably literally my most quoted line from this show.
Same here
The delivery on "You're naked. Why?" Is so great
Masako really did a great job with Goku / Gohan.
Dubs tended to go "Japanese Clark Kent" with a deep booming chad voice, whereas Japan made Son Goku a playful childish trickster like... well, like Sun Wukong. He was really able to somehow capture the best of both worlds, in no small thanks due to the writing. This Goku isn't an embodiment of justice, or kung fu monkey goblin, he's a moron and a fighting savant.
Yeah, it’s an underrated art but it always sorta bums me out when a specific voice portrayal of a character gets so big that all va’s just try to do an impression of that voice rather than their own spin on things
It especially wounds characters like Harley Quinn in most modern media
Makes me so glad that her new show didn’t just feature an actress try and force herself to twist her voice into something that it just isn’t and makes a forced corny accent.
I ADORE shit like steve blums ver of goku or the martin burke OVA version of sonics voice
Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass
What does bothers me is that adult Gohan and Bardock also have the same voice, despite having very different personalities from what you described.
Did puberty just skip all three of their throats?
KING FU MONKEY GOBLIN 💀
Japan literally just kept using the same voice actress for the adult as the kid, just because.
I think the word you were looking for with Frieza is "novel". What Goku provided Frieza was a novel experience, something fresh and exciting. Frieza is so used to certain kinds of reactions that he keeps lengthy lists of cliche responses, but then along comes Goku and it like nothing else before.
The whole dynamic between Frieza and Goku in DBZA is what makes the whole "what does repugnant mean" joke from DBS Broly hit so hard for me. It seriously felt like the official dub taking a cue from you guys.
It's one of my favorite moments from that movie.
It also works as a continuation of Resurrection F's salubrious bit, and Superhero does it too with infiltrate.
repugnant is a word you don't hear everyday. so.. i kinda get it. or it's just that english isn't my first language.
@@ghoulchan7525 Repugnant isn't basic English, but it's by no means a rare or unused word.
@@EpicScizor i see. i just never really heard it used in casual context
If they actually made more Super Shorts with movies, DBZA Goku will misinterpret the word as "Impregnate", "Who's the daddy who put a baby in the planet, is it the old Saiyan or the big stronger one?" and Freeza won't correct it for him and respond to Paragus, "This is why I have to kill him...". Which makes the ending way funnier with him going to Vampa and gifted Broly and friends his "Baby Shower" gifts
I kind of like how Goku's speech about Freeza being evil and murdering everyone feels kind of stiff. It's like Goku is so giddy about fighting Freeza that he has to verbally remind himself that Freeza is actually a monster and not just a challenge.
5:56 this is why I love the Kai version of this moment. Where Z tries to make it so that Vegeta was made to be a killer because of Frieza, the Kai version is of Vegeta telling Goku to be ruthless and be a true saiyan or he will never be a super saiyan. Vegeta also uses his final moments to tell Goku what really happened to planet Vegeta and starts crying at “After we saiyans served him faithfully, and blindly followed his every last order he…he betrayed us; he disposed of our race like common trash, wiped us from existence.” Capping it off by begging Goku to kill Frieza before finally dying.
In the manga he only tears up for his last sentence, in the French translation it's something like "I beg you, kill Freeza. He must die at the hands... of a Saiyan..."
("Je t'en supplie, tue Freeza. Il doit mourir... des mains d'un Saiyan".)
Great scene.
Yes, i also like KAI version of Vegeta better. American dub of DBZ made him an asshole, like when Nappa cuts Tien hand , Vegeta literally says " He s been disarmed" ( TFS took it straight, just adding reactions like wind whistle)
Yeah. Kai fixed it to be more accurate to the manga and Akira toriyama's vision. It's a better dub too.
Freeza's "Are you real?" in response to Goku's comment about being dead is one of my favorite responses in this show, just the absolute bewilderment in his voice rules so hard lol.
masako never did wrong by a kamehameha in his entire life. Gives me chills down my spine every single time. His gohan ones also, so good
In Vegetas defense he is a child soilder that never knew a moment of peace utill he came to earth. He's a monster, but he never really had room to grow out of it
That's basically society in a nutshell. Introduce them to violence, death and inflicting suffering since childhood so they grow up cynical, aggressive and callous.
It took a years of getting humbled repeatedly and possitive reinforcement from actual genuinely good people to get him to let go of that conditioning enough for him to become a non sociopath (for the most part) and actually enjoy it
"Oh please, everyone is always on about the children. I already tried leaving THEM alive, but all they end up doing is growing under my rule or dedicating their pathetic lives to revenge. Usually both. Really, killing them is a kindness. I can retract that kindness if you like, but then whose the villain?"
My favorite line from this episode because it says so much about Frieza
y-you...
@@marxist-leninist-protagonist "N- no, that was a rhetorical question."
@@Drflash55Official "And I gave you a rhetorical answer!"
@@Drflash55Official "And I gave a rhetorical answer!" :D
@@satoshikatsumoto9007 "Oh God I traded Vegeta for this."
The "Gerominoooo!" kick is honestly one of my favorite bits in the fight in terms of actual combat because they gave it just the right amount of force. Lingers on the kick for half a second, cuts to a literal single frame of Freeza flying through the air, and then BOOM, mountain! The visual and sound editing on it was top tier.
Yeah that hit is so solid. Love the moment.
Fun fact about the whole Kaio-Ken aura thing: they didn't want to break the reveal in the anime, so Goku's aura only turns red after King Kai says he's been using it the whole time, even though Goku's aura had been blue up to that point. I find this to be quite amusing.
"Are you real?"
Simple as this line is, it's always been one of my favorite Frieza lines. Like everything Goku says is more ridiculous/stupid than the thing before, so it's gotten to the point where Frieza's just staring in shocked bewilderment, legitimately wondering if he's hallucinating Goku. At least that's how I always took it, it's the look on his face as he says the line.
“You deserve a proper burial.”
“Oh yes a ‘proper burial’. An unmarked grave on an empty planet in the middle of nowhere space… honestly I’d say it’s too good for him.”
Hands down, my favorite quote in this entire episode 😂
"Oh No, my neck! My most Vital Area!"
"He's gonna choke me to death! Quick Goku use your instincts!!"
*CHOMP*
@@Ledragonboi27 Ahhh! Son of a- mother- (PUNCH)!
@@Ledragonboi27 Freeza: AHHH MY DICK!!!!
I will forever be disappointed that we won't ever get to see the Gohan/Videl interactions in highschool
It probably be amazing. The actress who voiced Tifa in the FF7 Machinabridged voiced kid Videl, so I can predict I can get a abusive/tsudere vibe from Abridged Videl.
No Videl riding Gohan's face :(
"Forever" is a hell of a lot of time...
Maybe one day, who knows.
I'm not giving up yet. It's only a matter of patience.
I hope what we have now satisfies you.
LittleKuriboh is amazing as Frieza *period* ,but I think that he arguibly shines the best in this final stretch of Season 2
The fact that you can just *hear* Frieza slowly losing his composure and patience with every sentence out of Goku's mouth is hysterical
I freaking love that even though Frieza has very witty and savage insults Goku just kills Frieza’s momentum with his stupidity. I think of it as like if Vegeta and Frieza were playing tennis and Frieza was dominating Vegeta, then Goku shows up and when Frieza serves the ball Goku catches the ball and starts playing basketball with it, then while yelling FOUR kicks it into a soccer goal and says TOUCHDOWN, just taking the wind out of Frieza’s sails.🤣🤣
The "FOUR" (assuming it is a golf reference) should be FORE
@@vinzo0913 Goku would definitely shout FOUR even though he should shout FORE
@@brownie_the_3rd bold of you to assume he didn't say like nine
"I miss Zarbon."
Lol. We all do. 😂😭🤣
Poor Chuck 😭
Did*
@@mattygee6852 Do. I still do. Present tense. If you don't, cool.
@@warlordofbritannia Chuck is a woman though! Lol. Well, apparently to Zarbon. Regardless, we ain't sure what their name is. Frieza just assumed it was Chuck because he's a dick! 🤣😂🤣
I always thought the "are you coming on to me?" line was referring to the fact that Chi Chi is most definitely a sadist and he's just used to stuff like that being someone coming on to him
Goku knowing at least that basic fact about bats actually makes sense when you consider he spent his childhood in the wilderness, meaning he'd probably encountered a few before.
It's something I imagine Grandpa Gohan taught him and would commit to memory.
"He has bat vision!" "Hi, General Mountain! My name's Goku, and I-" "I'm sorry, Mr. Mountain"
Freezer was right, Goku IS cute and cuddly.
Bat Vision is so gloriously stupid, its definitely in the top 3 of this episode
I always thought Masako’s Goku and Gohan being similar was a reference to the Japanese dub
Plus the Japanese voice actor her name is Masako
It is.
@@the-nina-beans88 i think he called himself masako because he started to dub goku, so it's not a reference, he did just for that. plus in season 1 they had a small cast: if you need 1 person to voice piccolo vegeta and krillin...
@@valentds Explain why his name was MasakoX for naruto abridged before DBZA then.
@@valentds ntm masako wasn’t even gohans va in the first episode
Its more of a happy coincidence that ties a nice little bow around things
Anyone who remembers the early abridging/early voice acting era of the internet will tell you that pretty much everyone was playing everyone
Unless you had a lot of money, tech, connections and networking skills; you were gonna be playing a LOT or characters yourself, most which don’t even fit your voice at all but someone had to do it.
Case-in point:
Kira buckland 💀
Or….just look up the full cast of Naruto Abridged-
I've always loved Kuriboh's "HA" during the high score bit
I always thought the reason Goku didn't react to the blast at Vegeta was because it caught him off guard. He was expecting Frieza to be focused on him, and didn't think about him finishing off a defenseless bystander.
i think that’s what it was in the original series. that, or he believes freeza has some form of fighting honor
The metal creak at 20:59 has got to be one of my favorite little jokes from this series.
Loved hearing you guys appreciate Masako's voice acting, his what ifs really show his chops on that too
I liked his roshi in season, and I think if there a dragon ball abridged I'd wanna hear it with his Roshi. (Just saying that as a hypothetical.)
Lani has a great bombastic Roshi voice but I really do like hearing all of Masako's takes on the characters.
I feel like they're misremembering when he finalized his voice though. He finalized Gokus voice after the bacon coma.
Lani making a pun and staring at Kaiser waiting for his response is the most real thing, and then when he doesn't get it he just plays it cool and let's it go that takes effort. If you see this Lani, I noticed the pun and I enjoyed it.
Which pun?
Seriously, which pun?
Day 304: Still wondering which pun
I think it was the Mr. Beef pun at the end of the video after Recoome strips. Mr. Beef is also the name of a Chicago Italian restaurant that inspired a TV show called "The Bear".@@elnumbrotres
@@imthetube44 I was literally hearing it while I read you lol
I always loved how they made Goku very head strong. “Can we fight now?” Felt like a commentary on the series as a whole and how fights drag out.
Yes, thanks to filler add-ons Freeza vs Goku fight is famous for its length.
Btw, i wonder why TFS did cut Chi-Chi s call from home, and a frog- so much space for jokes.
I always liked the “use your instincts” bit because of Goku’s famous appetite, plus he’s probably starting to get a little hungry.
Now I'm imagining the Abridged version of Ultra Instinct Goku only bites people lol
And when you get down to it, if you’re being grappled by a far more powerful opponent, biting WOULD be your best tool in that instance. It’s effective AND hilarious!
"I thought you had it." "NAOOoo!"
"Are you real?"
"Good lord I traded Vegeta for this."
"Piccolo should really have a talk with him."
"He's has Bat-Vision!"
"I miss Zarbon."
"How do you function?!"
"Are... you coming onto me?"
"YoU'rE WELcome."
"But can you block?"
Just so many great, great lines in this episode.
"I pay my taxes one leg at a time."
I thought my favorite line would be in this episode, but apparently, it's in the next one. We're getting there soon enough...
Don’t forget “GEROMINOOOOOO”
"Filthy Monkey, meet General Mountain!"
"Are you real?"
Also the creaking sound when Freeza leans in. Gold.
The whole "Suicide is the cowards way out" line is so good, it has to be one of my favorite lines in the series.
“But can you block?”
My favorite line from this episode
It probably wasn't but I like to pretend that was a jab at Lani for the gaming channel
This episode easily has one of my favorite Kamehamehas by Lawrence. That combined with the Kaio-Ken was just amazing, it really showed how much he grew into the role.
I wholeheartedly agree!
"Go my children" is my favorite line uttered by Goku in any media ever. It's perfect.
Classic Goku, sending his kids off to face evil planet-destroying monters
There needs to be a cast reunion for Episode 60's Commentary. It would be awesome!
I really like hearing you guys react to your own work. And don't be too hard yourselves. When I was a broke teenager living with people thanks to my drug addicted mom, Dbz Abridged Literally helped me get through those hard times. I would even go to the public library to watch dbz abridged
I'm sorry, but because of your typos I'd like to think you come up with a new abbreviation for the show every time you type it.
the fact that you typoed that twice on 2 different letters, makes me wonder wether it was 2 unfortunate accidents or if it was planned
I'm glad it helped you. :)
@@HenrythePaleoGuy
oh hey, I'm subbed to your channel
@@frogglen6350 Indeed! I knew I had seen your profile image somewhere before. I hope you're doing better now.
I miss General Mountain. He made quite the impact!
I always wondered, if there was a General Mountain, was there a Lieutenant Pebble?
Too bad he was dishonorably discharged from the Red Ribbon Army due to not having a color as his last name 😩
@@brandoncastellano1858 no, but there is a major stone
Good ol' General Mountain.... You can't take him for granite.
You can say the General mountain..
Plateau'd
9:15 Goku is a *novelty*
He uses a line Freeza had never heard, and he keeps pulling tricks Freeza didn't expect.
My gran passed the other day and I was in a completely understandable catatonic state, going through the motions and processing stuff. This comes up in my subscriptions and I just have to have something going while I’m cleaning.
And even though I knew the punchline and repeated it for years, the “rhetorical answer” gag was the first thing all say to make me bust out laughing uncontrollably, took me out of my shock.
This stuff is still gold is all I want to say. Your writing and everyone’s delivery is still gold to this day.
i’m sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss. Been there myself and it's not easy. Hope you and your family well through this hard time.
Damn, my grandma slipped away...gracious, a month ago? Less? About four years after my grandpa, and I had swapped out with my dad to housesit with her, saw her off to the ambulance he called to get her checked out, and a week later, my dad back for the night after his daily time up with her at the hospital, we got the call. That absence is no doubt gonna hit as time goes on, but the world keeps turning all the same, so here's hoping we keep coming into more of this world to turn ourselves toward as we move along with it all.
"...Frozen peas."
That line makes so much sense now, considering the voice it was based off of.
My explanation for Goku's understanding of bat-vision is that he overheard it in a book Chichi was reading to Gohan.
Mine is that he once was attacked by a bat and decided to fight it. And then eat it.
@@gamefreaker321 Does Devilman count as having bat vision? I guess if someone did a DB Abridged with the TFS canon, he probably would.
Finding out that this infamous “remix” you guys refer to is the infamous “weeklytubeshow2” from my middle school days has brought me an insurmountable amount of joy and I thank you guys for doing this series as a huge fan
That opening with "'Why didn't you block that one?' 'I thought you had it' 'NO!!!!'" landed this as my favorite episode right off the bat. Then Frieza bashing his metaphorical head against the brick wall of Goku's ignorance just kept cementing that fact.
i feel like kaisers drink cup has been on the cusp of being empty for the last decade😂😂
Goku vs Freeza is the PEAK of the series to me. They play off each other so hilariously, Masako and Kuriboh have perfect chemistry.
It reminds me of Yami's battle with Melvin in YGOTAS despite this coming first. It's just satisfying to see a sadistic enemy lose their sanity over someone so stupid and/or annoying.
@@dnmstarsi “you see that? You scared Tristan. Are you happy now?”
@@brandoncastellano1858 YES I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY!!!!
@@jordangarcia3635 I FEEL I AM I FUCKEN DISNEYLAND RIGHT NOW.
MasakoX is so good at doing both Goku and Gohan that I had no clue they were played by one guy until I read it somewhere but it also immediately made perfect sense.
I think it’s fair to have two Kamehameha in separate hand-blasts when you can produce one with your feet.
I like to think that after escaping Freeza, the crab crawled to Vegeta, stuck to him for the longest time, then helped him achieve Super Saiyan much later
Getting to rewatch DBZA and get to see these two talk about the show and give us insight about it is so fun
10:56 I appreciated moments like this in DBZA, there was a very infamous nightmare inducing animation error during the Android Saga - in DBZA it was literally reduced to one frame 😂
Which one?
?? 👀 spill the tea, in which episode can said “nightmare” be found?
@@kittoon I think it was DBZ Episode 133. Pay close attention to Trunk’s Head when he Transforms.
I wanna hear him say "Next Time on this thing that we're doing" in the Kyle Hebert voice. Bonus points if you throw in the Faulconer score.
Might be my most watched episode of season two. The humor, the deliveries, the pacing, all of it is SO GOOD. In particular Goku using his instincts is my absolute favorite scene in this saga, and Vegeta's "NOOO"
that "are you real?" line is absolutely _seared_ into my brain and yet i always expect to hear it way later in that scene
'My haughty sub loving self'
I...heard/interpreted that in a very different way before you clarified, Kaiser.
Goku slapping the laser beam into Vegeta might not be an original joke but I'm 99% sure I never saw it until today and it's hilarious
On the subject of the anime's pacing, I think I made a note once of there being around nine minutes between Tenshinhan showing up and 18 leaving after Cell eats 17. She sits there and watches him put triangular pegs into square holes for most of that time. It's not just the filler and flashbacks that make it suffer; the pace of dialogue and simple interaction is glacial as well.
Which TFS does make a huge running gag out of in that fight. 18's continued presence on that island in canon can best be described as "because plot needs Cell to absorb her at the end".
I thought the "Thank you Brain!" bit was a Simpsons reference since Homer usually talks to his brain that way.
This video I will always come back to, simply for Lani's NO. Just so damn funny.
Not having Goku ever comment “Oh what luck, I have a French fry in my gi!” was a missed opportunity.
My favorite consistent thing about Goku is he's bitten literally every major villain at least once while fighting them lmao
Cell and Moro are the only ones that were spared I think
He even bit Whis!
@@specialnewb9821well cell has his DNA he could probably predict if he tried it and counter him with a kick in the mouth
the "talking to the brain" bit also works as a Simpsons joke as Homer would talk to his brain frequently, I wish we saw it more often in DBZA
OK 22:06 is it a coincidence the sound effects line up with the music? That always stands out to me when I rewatch.
It was early 2012 when a uni friend mentioned that DBZA was a thing. I binged episodes 1-27 in 2 days and from then on, I saw each episode as they premiered. Thanks for the memories!
You're not wrong that Masako's Kamehameha at the end is seriously raw and I love it!
6:05
Space Vikings is the perfect description for Saiyans, lol.
That or Space Huns.
10:32
HOLY CRAP! THANK YOU, KAISER!
I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
I'm a little surprised that Freeza's puke hitting Krillin wasn't actually the crab that he had just eaten.
The crab fell out of his ear hole
Yeah Masako is good at making his Gohan and Goku sound different, I remember him doing that well in Kämpfer abridged as well when he voiced both male and female natsuru
I would've appreciated a count from freeza after Goku's "I must defeat you, you kill children" speech. But might have broken pacing a bit
Surprisingly nobodys ever criticized freeza for that before goku either.
I'd guess that he was already too thrown off by Goku's . . . Gokuness to remember his usual game.
The ‘Frozen Peas’ joke works on a multitude of levels. There’s the obvious bit (as was pointed out) regarding The Brain from ‘Animaniacs’ and how Maurice Lamarche nailed the Orion Wells connection. As Lani also alluded to, Lamarche also did a bit portraying the actual Orson Wells on ‘The Critic’ (criminally underrated show btw) using the exact same voice.
The peak of all of this is in the ‘Animaniacs’ episode ‘Yes, Always’, (probably my favorite episode of the entire show) which features Lamarche as The Brain portraying Orson Wells while making the Frozen Peas commercial, an episode that had its genesis in the fact that Lamarche uses the whole Frozen Peas bit as his mic check for The Brain and the writers eventually just ran with it and built a whole episode around it.
Probably nothing that everyone didn’t already know, but I just had to fangirl about that for a minute.
I thought the brain joke was a reference to when homer is looking for peanuts and finds $20. He’s upset but then his brain tells him he can get a lot of peanuts
It's three o' clock, and that means it's DragonBall time!!!!
Please do the Kai episodes! They are short but spectacular.
They said they will after episode 30
@@Hungryfox1 Awesome, thanks! Was this on Twitter, Patreon?
@@Petrovftd my comment keep getting deleted for some reason but eh the first one... with the blue bird
@@Hungryfox1 lol I hate CZcams’s censors so much.
I found the instincts bit super funny, too, because to me it's like "Goku's first instinct is to *eat it*"
I gotta say, I love the use of the AR2 SFX from HL2 when Goku gets turned into an energy pinball by Freezer.
When Freeza was drowning Goku and we heard the brain say 'frozen peas' I thought it was saying 'rest in peace '. It's like a misheard lyric and I cannot unhear the 'rest in peace' in my mind.
I always heard the same. Like his brain was starting to die from drowning, so it just badly mumbled "res...n...peace."
It’s also worth noting that Goku is bar none the strongest person who’s actually opposed him. Which is probably a very novel concept to him.
They bury vegeta while little green just lays there
No respect for their White Mage
@@Baithuti44 I mean, he did give away their home all because Krillin didn't call him by his real name. I get it but still a dick move so they're even.
i like it when you guys talk and discuss things around the episode a lot more than just watching the episode itself, don't be afraid to pause it! we're here for your commentary on things!
I always misheard thought the joke was "He has sound vision" because he forgot what "hearing" is called and made it sound like a special power