New 4Runner Lift Kit | Old Man Emu BP-51
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Today we are installing the new BP-51 lift kit from Old Man Emu. Perhaps you have never heard of Old Man Emu (OME) but I am sure you have heard of their parent company, ARB. ARB is a massive company from Australia and has been making Off-Road products since 1975. In 1988 ARB acquired OME suspension one of the most advanced manufactures of suspension systems around the world. In 2015 OME release the BP-51 series witch offers the ultimate in both comfort and control.
The BP-51 is one of the most advanced bypass shock absorbers today. Unlike most other manufacturers it allows on-vehicle adjustability of both rebound and compression. It also has massive advancements on the bypass design letting with a separate passage past the piston to the bypass reservoir. This results in the ability of the shock absorber to provide the best of both worlds. Letting you tailor your vehicle to your individual needs all while not sacrificing comfort.
The BP-51 is vehicle-specific utilizing existing mounting locations witch means this installation is going to be quite simple and straightforward.
Unfortunately, I didn't get any video of installing the reservoir on the front driverside. But Trail4r has a wonderful blog post about the entire install and covers that section great.
trail4runner.com/2020/11/05/o...
Where to get this Kit
ARB OME BP-51 (KDSS): yotamafia.com/product/arb-ome...
ARB OME BP-51 (without KDSS): yotamafia.com/product/arb-ome...
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00:00 Intro
00:18 OME BP-51 overview
01:38 Disassembly of spindle
03:09 Removing the rubber guards
03:25 Removing upper control arm
04:21 Removal of the strut
05:03 Installing driver side front reservoir bracket
07:23 Installing BP-51 front strut
08:35 Installing front reservoir
09:10 Installing OME upper control arm
11:25 Torquing down pivot bolt
12:50 Disassembly of rear suspension
13:42 Installing new coil springs
14:22 Installing shock guard
15:35 Installing BP-51 Rear socks
16:36 Installing rear reservoir bracket
18:00 Torque rear shocks, setting up guards
19:14 Final review
Blog about this install:
trail4runner.com/2020/11/05/o...
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This was fantastic...what a wonderful piece of work this was. I also listened to your interview and the podcast you guys did with shock surplus...awesome reviews and background. Your expertise comes out loud and clear. Thanks for teaching us all newbies how to do this stuff.
I got to say this was tops the most informative video I have seen on a install. It sure brings up the confidence for anyone out there trying to dIY it. Fantastic Video bud.
Thank you for the very thorough instructional step by step video. Appreciate it.
Such a great lift kit on my D1 I had. Great quality. Old school not the new style with the remote resi and all that.
I installed the brackets the night before I ever started the job. Totally made the rest easy breezy.
That left driver side rear bracket though. OMG. So tight of a space to tighten the nuts with the reservoir in there. 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for the video! Going to order this kit
Great job
Thanks!
Those who know, know that the BP-51s are a GREAT suspension.
Glad you like it!
What comp and rebound settings you running on front and rear bp-51's?? I need to adjust mine bad! Runner spends the majority of her life on pathment
Guys please make a test drive review of the BP51. Thanks
Speaking from recent personal experience for anyone looking to buy the BP51 for front, even at the 5mm preload, unless you have a bumper, it will give you 3" lift (some distributor website call it a 3" lift, you should interpret this as the minimal amount of lift without added weight). At 5mm, with weight, it will be performing like a leveling, probably will go down to 2", but I set to 5mm, at factory front weight, it's a full 3".
Was this with medium or heavy springs?
@@NB-yn7dv well it's a good question, but the front coil over came assembled and Mudify only offers one option, so the load of the spring was never discussed with me (rear spring options are offered).
Love looking at the brake disc during the whole rear installation 😑
Great video. Are these 3 inch lift shocks. Why did you add spacer on top of front struts .Do these shocks come with new front and rear bump stops. If not. What are the new bump stops website and part numbers. Also, are these shocks serviceable like Fox shocks .thank you
Mcm voice over for the win
Did you like that, I thought it came out really good! (maybe a hair longwinded)
@@SnailTrail4x4 you are doi g great every video is better than the last
Sick
Thanks!
Looks awsome what size tires are you running with the bp-51 lift?
Need more lighting on the finished install, please. Cool install. I need one of those long digital torque wrenches
They are outstanding, link in description
Awesome lift!!! What rims are those though? Those are nice too!!!
Thanks for the video, Very helpful for a newbie like myself. Question, where did you get those top shims or spacers? Would they also work on Bilstein 6112's? Thank you
Probably, we got them from Ekstorm. Here's a link to another set we installed: trail4runner.com/2018/02/12/4-4-5-lift-on-5th-gen-4runner/
Amazing video, thank you for putting this together.
Have you had any issues with the KDSS during the installation?
I see that you can buy a kit that comes suitable for KDSS - is this what you used for this specific car? Also, can you share the bump stop P/N - can find it on the web. Thanks a lot!
does the OME Upper control arm offer more clearance for the reservoir hose? your preload is at OME factory of 20mm, so the hose is angled downwards before it snakes/curves up, but I lowered my preload, so my hose is lifted up a bit, then as it runs under the factory UCA, there's a lot of bending...
Great video. Been looking for lift kits for my 4runner with KDSS. Did you have to install diff drop? Or Kdss spacer?
Yes I would!
Loved the instructional insight on installing the 4RBP51MKP BP-51. I have several questions since I am used to wrenching on my old Land Cruiser and putting together a build on our 5th Gen 4Runner is a bit new for me. What load range (heavy or medium) did you install? Why did you have wheel spacers? Last. The spacer at the top of your strut... are you concerned with the suspension height limits imposed by your KDSS?
In advance thank you for your insight into your build!
Heavy or medium only really matters what you're going to do to your vehicle. Are you going to add a large bumper and a winch (heavy) otherwise I'd do medium.
The spacer on the top of the strut was to give it a little more lift (1/2")
Wheel spacers are needed to clear the UCA and give it a good looking stance. But you need a body mount chop
@SnailTrail4x4 Thank you. I got medium for both 4Runners. The winch is going on my FJ40. I will have to mount the spare off the bumper, so I will be adding an aftermarket bumper. Otherwise, I am trying to keep things cloned and simple. No rock crawling in these, just very capable Overlanding vehicles.
Did adding the spacer hurt the ride quality? I have these exactly same suspension set up and thinking to do the spacer route as well. Thanks!
I have a ‘21 with KDSS and had to disconnect the front sway bar on the passenger side in order to allow for enough droop to fit the coil over. You guys didn’t show that part in your video. Did you have to do that? How to I reconnect the sway bar?
Nice video. How is the ride?
How was alignment with the OME UCAs and the 3 inch lift?
Great vid! I carry camp stuff, drawers n frig… thinking about putting on roof top tent.. would you recommend these shocks n heavy springs ?
Thank you
Yeah, they will work great
Awesome video! How thick are those shims you added in the front?
If I recall they were 1/4"
Thanks for the video ! What size tires are those? also, are those RRW rims -12 offset or 0 offset ?
These are 34" tires And the wheels have a -12 offset
Can you describe the issue with the driver side reservoir bracket install better? ARB specs show to put the reservoir bracket between the KDSS bracket and the frame. The trail4runner instructions you have a link to shoes the same as ARB.
Blog about this install:
trail4runner.com/2020/11/05/ome-old-man-emu-bp51-suspension-lift-kit-for-5th-gen-4runner/
Nice job! Do those OME uca‘s have ball joints or uniballs?
They have Ball Joints
So with these shocks you ont have to do any modifications to the KDSS sway bars?
Curious what size the blue spacers are on that 4Runner, and the rim and tire size. Y’all did a good job at getting it just right.
They are either 1.25 or 1.5 inch spacers.
Can you tell me how high to lift (front&rear wheel) without impact KDSS and TSS. My car is 2021 4 runner trd offroad
Gonna be doing this lift on my 4Runner. Hopefully I can pull it off as easily as you made it look. I’m curious what is the process for removing the spring without a bottle jack or spring compressor? Thanks for the great video!
You can undo the sway bar
Hose clamps, lots of hose clamps.
Did you guys turn off the shutter valves for KDSS before installing the lift? Any recommendations to install on KDSS equipped 4Runner?
No we left the kdss along. This was a KDSS rig
Size of the new bolt that you had changed after the shims please? Thanks a lot!
I have had BP-51s on my 17 runner with KDSS since 2018. I have had zero problems with them (and I havent been nice to them.) My only complaint is over time the adjustment has been getting harder and harder to rotate with the wrench. My guess would be this is from possibly years of road grime packing into the collars. all in all for the price and warrany they cant be beat. I'd suggest saving a buck and use SPC upper control arms instead of the OME branded ones.
What comp and rebound settings you running on front and rear? I need to adjust mine bad!
@@phillipgriz at first I had them about the mid range but now I have comp turned all the way down and rebound all the way up for. road and I'll crank the comp up if im offroad more than a few miles. reason being I like the softness on road/gravel.
@@sv55492 DUDE you rock man! I have had my settings at 0&3 on all four since 2019 and its a bouncy ride. I will try out your settings. Thanks again!
@@phillipgriz definitely turn your rebound up! I did the same at first. go full 6 then dial back to where you like it. also depending on weight if you feel the runner hop a little you may want to adjust fronts and rear slightly differently. I found with a dirtbike hitch on I needed more comp to kind of even out the truck. hope that helps!
eem-You, not eemoo. Thanks, from Australia.
Haha, cheers
@@SnailTrail4x4 All you Americans say it wrong 😂
when in Australia , I'll pronounce it that way . 😂
We ‘didgeri-don’t’ give a flip how it’s pronounced, we just care that it works.
An e-moo is an electronic cow 🐄
Looks Sweet! what size tires are you running with that new bp lift?
34s at the moment
What a great fucking video. Thank you good sir
You're welcome
What set up for 2024 ford ranger wildtrak 4x4. Im planning to upgrade my stocks shocks to BP-51. Do i need to replace the UCA? Thank you.
How's the ride?
What kind of pry bar were you using on the lower control arm?
Would loves these for my tundra
They are a great kit, I was extremely satisfied with the product.
@@SnailTrail4x4 thank you
I know this is off topic and you probably don't own this vehicle anymore but I was curious which roof rake you have on the 4runner I was interested installing the KC light bar and how you did it?
Great review will this give a 4runner 3" in front?
The lift was 2.5" but when we added the shims it got it up to 3"
So th is set up does not lift the front and rear at all? And therefore it works with the KDSS easily?
How long before maintenance on the shocks?
How are the upper control arm. I am considering these for my fj
I wonder how the long bolt through the UCA was installed at the factory, on Tacomas the wheel well completely gets in the way, more so than the 4runner
did you have any issues with alignment with the UCAs? I am debating on buying a pair of ARB UCAs. I have the BP51s as well.
No problems at all
@@SnailTrail4x4 do you think you could fit 35s with this setup? Assuming you have a BMC
Reminder for anyone that will touch any suspension stuff on their 4Runners..Disconnect the battery before you start! I activated the C1290 code by not disconnecting the battery first lol
How did you do that?
@@SnailTrail4x4 According to the dealer they said it can happen if you touch anything with the alignment/ LCA's. I guess the vehicle senses its way out of alignment ? It sounds stupid I know! lol
@@allang9349 -- I have never heard this, but the only way that could happen is if the Runner has KDSS. Otherwise, there is no way for the vehicle to make its own adjustments.
@@SnailTrail4x4 It even specified on the installation instructions from Readylift to unplug the battery. I then discovered why
@@allang9349 the dealer is full of it. They’ll say anything just to not honor your warranty. C1290 is gonna be from driving it out of alignment. It wouldn’t have mattered whether you disconnected the battery or not.
I install lifts for a living, literally lifted hundreds 4Runners and Tacomas. I never disconnect the battery or had any error codes.
Hello, please I have a problem with my bp51 for 4runner. I installed last week and liquid began to come out of the joint of the shock absorber and the hose that comes from the reservoir. I am very worried. I installed the suspensión just us they arrived., that is, like the pre load that arrived. ARB tell me that it is because of the pre load that happened. I doubt it. This suspensión costs a lot. Of money.
wait, so you didn't have to disconnect the KDSS system in any way?
How is the kdss with such a tall lift? And how does the ome compare to the terra flex? Thanks
not sure about terra flex but I have this set up and have had zero issues with KDSS
Hey man, I see that this is like the third lift you do on your channel. I was wondering if you’ve had any of the lift result in KDSS lean? I’m about to install a kings lift at home and I’m curious if you’ve have any experience with this? Thanks for any input.
Yes, all KDSS get a lean. You have to compensate for that if it's an option on the lift. If I recall it's passenger side high.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Does adjusting the preload? Fix this? I am installing a kings suspension 2.5 Thank you.
@@HBadger89 -- not really, it might work, but if you have fully adjustable coilovers you just need to adjust the height (lift) you're putting on the vehicle. One side will be 2" and the other 2.5"
@@SnailTrail4x4 Do you mind if I ask how you go about fixing the lean? Starting to think I should take it in to have this done for me lol. Thank you for the input.
@@HBadger89 what exact coil overs are you getting, Modle numbers?
Ive had the bp-51 since 2019 and they are great however I want to adjust my comp and rebound but I have no clue of good settings for mainly city and once a month ranch riding. What are your recommendations for comp and rebound for front and rear?
That's really hard to say, it would depend on so many things, and mainly weight. I'd suggest simply playing with them and finding what feels good for you
Did you not like the Falcon Shocks, or just wanted a better upgrade? I recently put the Falcon Shocks on my Tundra and I'm very happy with them thus far.
he being sponsored i think.RIght trail4x4? ;)
We were very satisfied with the Falcons, this is just a bigger lift so we can fit 35" tires, also we want to try something new.
@@SnailTrail4x4 give us some off road shoots so we can see it action!
Did the shims come with the kit?
If your considering this system think twice about. I have been going back and fourth with their customer service for a upper control arm with a defective bushing. They are refusing to warranty the part and I’ve had the system for less than 30 days. Makes you wonder how they will treat other issues that may come up with the suspension. Just buyer beware.
Also, did OME fix the cold temp clunk issue? This is the only thing keeping me away from the BP51 and looking at the Bilstein 8112 and 8100s.
We haven't experienced this... But maybe were not wheeling hard enough
@@SnailTrail4x4 I just read reports of it clunking when it is cold. Its not really related to how hard u push it. Hopefully OME fixed it and u guys won't have that issue!
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Will the BP-51’s work for a 2007 4Runner? Thank you
Probably but you should contact EMU to be sure
Any reason why you wouldn’t just adjust the coil over height slightly instead of adding the shim for height?
You can do that also. These came to use in a preset height and ride quality so we thought a shim might be easier/faster
Does the 4Runner have kdss? And roughly how long did the whole install take?
Yes, and it should take 4-5 hrs with two people
What is the max lift for these shocks? 2.5-3”?
What was the max positive caster that you were able to get from these? Where you able to prevent positive camber?
From the uca. I meant.
There is only one position for the UCA, and I'm not sure the answer we took it to an alignment shop and had them set it up
Did OME ever resolve the leaking issues everybody was having?
We haven't been having any problems
Did you have to do anything to the kdss to do this install?
We didn't touch the kdss
Where did you get the front shims? Thanks
We got them from Ekstorm. Here's a link to another set we installed: trail4runner.com/2018/02/12/4-4-5-lift-on-5th-gen-4runner/
Does it only give 2 inch max lift unlike icons 3?
If you adjust the coils you can get upwards of 3"
What rear coils did you go with?
The one that comes in the BP-51 kit from OME
What did the whole kit cost?
Aren't there washers on the inner faces of the UCA?
No, none
Where your shop located?
I see that ARB does not want to recognize the guarantee, indicanting that this hsppened because I did not do a good preload. I want to. Know of I can refill liquid?
I would take it to a person that rebuilds shocks and have them add the write oil and make sure the shocks are assembled correctly
After 5 months, I finally got my ONE BP51 suspension system and tires. I saw you have wheel spacers (1"?), I tried to get offset and backspacing information for the wheels I plan to go with. My first question was there a mechanical reason for adding the (1"?) Spacer with the stock TRD Pro wheel 17"x7" with a 4.51" backspacing and a -12 mm offset? Also I saw you used shims on your front struts to level the vehicle out. What thickness of shim did you use and where did you source them?
Sorry for all the questions, but so far you are the only REAL resource that has installed the OME suspension. Just trying to make sure my learning curve is not fraught with wasteful mistakes in advance I appreciate your advice👍
Let's see we used 1.25" wheel spacers. And the shims were just to give us a little more lift and it was 1/4" thick
@SnailTrail4x4 Thank you for your setup. There are so many builds out there, I am going to have to put the rig up on the rack and just get it installed.
I would like to see a "Long-term" use review on your setup.
shouldnt you torque the suspension bolts while the car is on the ground with the weight of the car?
Yeah we did, 11:25 Torquing down pivot bolt
torqueing a bolt where two flat surfaces hit each other doesn't means anything with the weight of the car. If anything, you want to torque when there is the least amount of stress put into any of the items around it. You don't torque a head bolt when the engine is running, just like structural steel, the bolts assembling that don't get retorqued once the building is built. The Torque spec is based on the strength of the bolt, not the forces what will be applied to the surrounding metals, those forces dictate the size and strength of the bolt specified.
@@socercrze So why does this logic not apply with the wheels themselves? I'm not being a dick I'm just being curious. Is it because of the fact that the wheels are actually a rotating force that do move consistently?
@@allang9349 it does apply to the wheels themselves. You can torque and should torque them with the car off the ground. But most people torque them with the load because then it's easier to tighten them. Both formula 1 and nascar torque the wheel locking systems while there is no load on the wheel
@@socercrze Thank you Jim.
What’s the cost for this install?
Can we put it on jimney 2019?? Please reply
I don't know, contact the company. I don't think Suzuki's and Toyotas have identical platforms
Do you Gus sell
That here in USA?
Yes, it's sold here
where did you source the spacers?
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Haha, yep
Do you have a diff drop??
Not yet but we're going to add one
Will they fit on 05 Jeep th with 3inch lift
This kit exactly won't work for a jeep, but they might make a kit for jeeps
How bout a link to that torque wrench? Please...
In the description
@@SnailTrail4x4 I must be slow because I can’t see it
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How big is the lift?
Why you added spacers on coilover?
To give it more lift
@@SnailTrail4x4 how about increasing the coil preload compare to spacer method?
@@leoyang1524 -- we're going to do that also. But this way the springs are still a soft setting for ride hight
@@SnailTrail4x4 that’s nice to know, thanks for your answer!
Link to the pry bar?
www.amazon.com/GearWrench-82248-48-Inch-Extendable-Pry/dp/B002SZVJR8/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?adgrpid=56405258339&dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9_mDBhCGARIsAN3PaFNxn-hTKO7xqJTyETv9N3TsPyhqYFGysg9PJtOI-zYjTr199Syv6mIaApJeEALw_wcB&hvadid=409999374669&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9029672&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8667056210978882910&hvtargid=kwd-298480830709&hydadcr=20373_11126171&keywords=gearwrench+pry+bar&qid=1618927384&sr=8-5
Are the BP-51s serviceable?
Yes
Yes
What’s the lift height of this kit?
We got almost 3" maybe 2 3/4
I have seen this video about 20 times in preparation. Really wish you would have touched on all 4 sides. I get not wanting to make a 2hr video, but dang. The space difference between the top of the two rear struts is a pain. Placing the stupid plastic shin guards in to the puzzle pieces at the bottom and getting them to click.
Front driver UCA bolt not getting hung up on the electrical wires. And getting the passenger UCA bolt past the FREAK’N AC line or cooling line what ever it is. This has been a pain in the a$$. Lowering Civics is way easier, but the again i was 20yrs younger then.
I will take this into consideration, needing to show the issues
@@SnailTrail4x4 thank you. Love the channel. ✌️
Awesome! Any chance could I buy your previous lift from you?
Nope it has been used
Roof rack brand name please.
KC Highlights M-Rack that thing is badass!!! www.kchilites.com/roof-racks/vehicle/toyota/4runner.html
whats the cool music ?
What time?
Why didn’t you just take the tierod off turn your wheel instead of doing all that ?? No need to take the arms off ..but guess for more clearance
You're supposed to tighten the shock bolt when you lower the car 🤭
What bolt are you asking about
Front lower. But the bushing is up by the mount plate on these so I’m not sure it’s important since the bushing is on its own shaft. Shouldn’t be any danger of ripping the bushing.
Is there a lot of wear and tear with lift like this?
Any modifications will add wear and tear to your vehicle. But, it's not really that much. More wear and tear comes from going off-roading
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