The State of Electrify Everything with Saul Griffith
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Every year matters when it comes to electrification and decarbonization. Where are we today, what progress have we made in the last year, and what do we need to focus on in the year to come? Electrification BAMF Saul Griffith explains.
This keynote session took place at GreenBiz's free online event, VERGE Electrify - Amping Up the All-Electric Future. Learn more about VERGE Electrify here: bit.ly/3zJ5qHZ
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Saul my company is putting all of your ideas into action in Australia
How who where??
@@lindam.1502 Good Earth Group based in Sydney but servicing around australia.
A nuclear promoter friend, from my past, who I have recently discovered lectures on nuclear power industry had no answer to the issue of exporting uranium ore to every dictatorship's nuclear industries. The point is to stop CO2 proliferation.
80% of the world's population is in dictatorships.
Very clear explanation!
Thank you for this! Great video
Thank you!
Keep going Saul.
Make this guy the guy that organises electricity please
I would love to hear Saul discuss problems, externalities, challenges he can see in following this path...
There will always be people that have no interest in the planet , their community or indeed their own well-being. Climate change deniers will come around as quite simply - Electric costs less.
Question spend money on petrol or spend money on holidays…..
I’ll take holidays thanks
Worried about solar flares and other astrophysical black swans. Electrical motors produce ozone. Etc. Putting all the energy needs in the electrical basket seems to increase the risk of sudden catastrophic failure. Me I keep my bicycle tuned and my treadle sewing machine handy.
@@rustysnails electric motors in cars do not produce Ozone they are IPM-SynRM which is a DC permanent magnet system
We need to get proper recycling plans with closing wind and solar too , stories floating around of them all going to landfill due to the cost of the recycling
It's remarkable how much of this content has propagated itself into the IRA Act and into Tesla's "Investor Day."
What if batteries and Solar PV face stricter recycling regulations? Or mining the materials in the first place requires tighter emissions?
Can anyone point me in the direction of an analysis of what the future looks like under those risks?
How much of the price reduction in renewables is because of China? How would we fare cut off from that supply chain? How much of China’s low cost production of solar is from coal? It seems to me that Saul is underplaying the problems of intermittency and the cost of large scale energy storage. Seems obvious that Australia is in the best position for renewable energy but what is happening with the grid in California is concerning.
What about the scarce unrecyclable non renewable metals required for renewables? That looks to be the Achilles heel for renewable energy.
Non- renewable metals? Do tell
Currently all recyclable and check out ABC mining minerals for the future
@@karlajensen100 not cost effective unfortunately. That makes it non renewable.
@@sallyjohnson5985 talk scarce… I love this one I can’t get oil out of my backyard. In fact Australias entire oil resource would not fuel its transport fleet for two years.
We have all the minerals the entire worlds battery needs for the next 500 years.
@@karlajensen100 I understand it takes 100 tonne of ore to be strip mined to extract 1 tonne of lithium. If that’s not anti environmental, I don’t know what is!
Dual carbon metal-free batteries will be the game changer. At the end of the day technology always wins ! Only people from oil producing countries are worried because their economy will become weaker as renewables take off
5 time more electricity is needed to replace fossil fuels.
5 time bigger national grid capacity.
The national grid is 10times more expensive than the central electric power generation plants.
So 5 times more power plants and all nuclear. 500 SMRS at $2billion each and decades and expensive and experienced operators, 3 sifts a day, 365, plus back up sifts for holidays etc.
And then the resources to build the extremely expensive fatter national grid at$2million a klm for 1million klm.
The carbon footprint, the financial burden, the manpower all to get electricity to the 20million buildings in Australia is stupid.
Every building is connected to the existng national grid.
Every building has the support structure, for solar pv.
Solar PV $/m2 is half the cost of new windows.
20million vehicles will have some way of storing electricity for the long drive but be parked 23hrs a day.
The reserve stored electricity in these vehicles will be massive daily.
These EV can selfpark like a modern robotic vacuum cleaner and trade electric energy and stability with the grid for money.
I understand your message here but it completely misaligns with the endless emission reduction messaging. We are being told this and 1.5 degrees is the #1 focus yet the other side is asking how do we not substantially increase emissions deploying this enormous electric infrastructure & recycling it all.
@crankin77 just to be clear
I am saying
The way to electrictrify and not waste the national wealth is to make full use of the new EVs.
Keep the existing national grid.
And at a small cost, add glass panels on to part of each of our 20 million Australian rooftops.
The glass panels have the PV cells attached.
The central concentrated electric generation system is stupidly expensive and not needed in today's technological advance world in the 21st century.
Nuclear industries in every country are insane and stupidly uneconomic.
Add the military defence budgets exploding costs on top, and the level of stupidity becomes exponential in size.
I think with batteries , with cars they should have 20 year warranty or warranty for the life of the car .. there is no way I’d buy a used EV at the moment . Leafs and old Teslas are stuffed
@@karlajensen100 all my cars have done well over 250 -300 k around 15 -20 years . People like us can afford it it’s those on shit money can’t afford 20k for a battery
@@MrBigbangbuzz those who can’t afford it catch trains / buses and ride bikes.
Cars are a privilage you have to work hard for
@@MrBigbangbuzz they probably can’t afford service and insurance.
Did I mention the Tesla is costing me 60c / 100kms vs $24 for a hilux Ute that’s 50x cheaper to run
@@karlajensen100 Id buy a new one , just not a used one 10 years old
@@MrBigbangbuzz the car tells you it’s degradation
Mine is 1% at 13,700kms which is typical ie more degradation at start of life.
The battery is warranted for 192,000kms and 8 years for my car. (Performance model3)
The one key piece missing in every video I have seen from Saul’s amazing work is the environmental cost/impact/emissions from delivering said renewable infrastructure.
And if it’s part of the calculations & graphs, it’s very unclear.
The honest & intelligent detractors in this debate increasingly ask for this modeling and they are never offered.
Cheaper, inflationary etc benefits long term is understood by the critics.
What isn’t? The massive emissions increase that would result from the sheer scale of steel, lithium & industry resource required.
Yet CO2 emissions reduction is the #1 push & top of mind.
Amateurs think tactics professionals think logistics.
In the Australian example 20million buildings
25gw of fossil fueled power maximum if you are lucky.
The national grid disperses 30kwh to every building, and as low as 18kwh.
Every building is connected to the national grid
Every rooftop with 33kwh of solar.$200/m2
Every home has 32m2 windows.$400/m2
Electric vehicles big batteries, 100kwh storage.
20million vehicles in Australia.
Free battery with EV. $0/battery
Existing national grid is perfect.
More cheap rooftop, then central power is not needed.
DISPATCHABLE daily 20million x100kwh= 2,000gWh
Imagine 20million vehicles
15,000 Horndale 130mwh big batteries.
(= 1,300 x 100kwh vehicle's )
1,300 VEHICLES = HORNDALE BIG BATTERY
The costs, reliability and life span issues with battery powered equipment and vehicles is a problem.
The toll on the enviroment from mining the materials for batteries, recycling and landfill of waste from worn out and failed products. The labour and parts costs make things easier, just to throw away and replace.
The carbon emissions from producing all this, to convert to an "all electric world" is no better than if we just continue.
Watch "The light bulb conspiracy" about consumerism. Consumerism is the big problem, evolution of technology and the need for something better fuels these problems.
No one considers the amount of new electronic devices plugged into the wall, charging and on standby all the time.
I've had the same good quality car, mower leaf blower etc fo over 15 years. Simple maintenance and repairs and thats all.
This topic needs to target the top end of society.
The wealthy commute by private jets, drive big vehicles, holiday in large private motor cruiser's, have huge houses beyond what a human needs.
Jeff Bezzos has a space flight ride for people willing to pay, oh and Elon Musk is sending up rockets almost every week.
Oh take a trip to Las Vegas and see what a waste of energy is.
Hey Allen your views arent supported by the data doing what we are doing now doesnt work and is a major driver to climate disasters - drought norther hemisphere , floods southern hemisphere. Batteries are easier to recycle than new materials but yes Australia will do very well as we have all the minerals we need.
Sauls idea might be more affordable in a country with closer to US population size but in Australia, tax payers can’t afford all the infrastructure costs for ‘green’ energy. It only makes sense here to religious green fundamentalists.
All of the US is not densely populated. Some of these "green" energy ideas for transmission lines seem crazy. I'm for building nukes closer to the main electrical loads.
There’s not green fundamentalism in South Australia and we run on 90% green power most of the time. Private companies built the infrastructure and coal and gas stations closed down because they were no longer viable. It was nothing more than a bit of state government encouragement and the private sector choosing to invest that made this happen.
Going all-in with electricity creates an energy monoculture. This will not end well.
Hey mate i'm all in with electric and have electrified my home 25kW on the roof and EV in the garage! I'm pretty happy to be not spending $150 a week in fuel, now im spending $15 in lost feed in tarrif. I do need the utility for winter export and import as home battery is outside my current budget
Karl- the problem isn’t just household. How are we powering industry?
You don’t help the debate talking about your house. Most get that.
Electrifying for every power need - that’s the inconvenient truth regarding resources,
emissions, storage & reliability.
Hydrogen will assist with industry. Saul is focusing on households in this talk. He has other talks looking at the whole economy.
How do we save the climate?
- Shut down all our energy infrastructure & build replacements and then throw away all our applicances & cars, replacing them with electric ones. So green😅
If you’ve seen his other videos he is suggesting that you only go electric when you are already planning to replace products at home or cars. Makes a lot of sense really.