HELLDIVERS 2 BEST PRIMARY WEAPON TIER LIST AFTER 400 HOURS VS TERMINIDS - ULTIMATE BREAKDOWN
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I ranked EVERY PRIMARY WEAPON in helldivers 2 and put them in a tier list, This Helldivers 2 Tier list for best weapons will give you a better Idea on what works better at endgame! enjoy!
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For me the basic liberator was s tier, until the sickle came out. Sickle does more dps and can have infinite ammo.
The primary choice is heavily reliant on you support weapon too, for example you really don't need the Slugger's armor pen if you're running the Arc Thrower and you'll want more horde clearing. With that being said I cannot agree with the placement of the Breaker Incendiary since it's effectively a direct upgrade to the Spray & Pray. Regardless what the tool tip might imply, it just kills anything with WAY fewer shots, imho it's also superior to the regular Breaker (vs bugs) due to the better ammo economy. relative to your tier list I would place it in A-S. I'd also argue the Diligence is way better than the Liberator Concussive since the latter deals no damage whatsoever but that's not here nor there since they're both low.
I pretty much agree with everything else.
Yea its very disrespectful putting the incendiary shotgun in the same tier as the blitzer, base liberator and liberator explosive. That gun shreds bugs because of the fire damage and with the recent update fire damage overtime has been buffed
Really well put together list, great job! Man, i do hope they buff the incendiary breaker a bit since personally i love lighting armies of bugs ablaze with it, it feels awesome rushing into the enemy hive with it to take care of some eggs.
Same thing with the scythe, chopping them to pieces with lasers like hot knife through butter is fun as hell but it is just not on the same level with the Sickle. Maybe they could release an armor with a passive that would increase the damage of all held down laser weapons but you would explode on death thanks to the extra batteries you're carrying, thoughts?
thanks shay!
Wanna say, thr blitzer though it damage really isnt there with a slow ttk, it more of a utility weapon then pure damage.
During my play testing i seen it is a absolute staggering machine. It staggers nearly all enemy types in the game that isnt a heavy elite mob like a charger or hulk.
It also has unique effects against some enemies. Like the bile spewers it actually cancels out their spit attack if you shoot them before the spit come outs. Saved my life so many times. Against devastors it staggers and stun locks them if and changes it to other around them.
It will get the job done clearing out hordes but it more powerful against the bigger threat staggering and stunning them.
One of the best tier list Ive seen! I really appreciate you splitting up the list for bugs and bots. Not doing that kind makes a list irrelevant imo. Honestly only change I would make is swap the spray and pray with the incendiary breaker. I feel the incendiary breaker is misunderstood because its a support primary that should only be used as a one of in a coordinated fire team. That being said I believe its hands down the best primary for spraying into a horde/bug breach. The wide spread is an advantage when you use it that way to light as many enemies as possible.
happy u liked it joshua:) at the end of the day we will always disagree on some stuff and I think thats healthy and thats aboslutely fine:) shows that the game can be playd in many ways and thats awesome!
I don't think tier lists need that kind of granularity. In the end it just boils down to is the gun overpowered, very good, good, average, or underpowered. It's not that complicated.
People downgrade the plasma shotty so easily. I will forever vouch for that weapon because it eradicates medium bugs
Same all ark weapons are good rn 🔥🔥
@@euroking3941it’s a plasma weapon
the plasma is my baby
Plasma is my fav right now as well.
we have the free Scorch so yes in my opinion it's not worth it even now, if only the explosion did slightly more damage it would make sense to exist, as it is now I don't think so.
Great list, top job as always.
With the Arc Blitzer, one kind of has to adapt their gear/playstyle imo. Put on light armor, don't scope in (only locks you in place), shoot then sprint around/reposition while the weapon is reloading. Then proceed to shoot again. Becomes quite efficient at add clearing that way, even of medium armor.
thanks albert!
And dive a lot, shouting "Dark Souls! Dark Souls!"
Fire as of the 2nd April patch (1000.200) does 50% more damage per tick. I'm guessing this is to everything and all fire damage whether tornado or weapons.
The diligence sniper is now medium armour pen.
And the liberator perpetrator (?) Is now with full auto.
I personally prefer the Plasma Shotty over the Plas Scorcher for bugs.
But for Automatons the extra range that the Scorcher has is so nice and it shreds everything you expect a primary to shred.
The Slugger comes close behind them for me. On Automatons ahead of the plasma.
I didn't like the Sickle too much over the other 3. Very little knockback, and I don't have trouble using the other 3 due to mouse aim.
Liberator should be doodoo on principle that the Defender is just a straight upgrade.
plasma shoty
I agree with the list after much testing Scorcher is my top fave bots and bugs, Scyhte is best a mobs for both factions and Slugger is great for both only guns need to learn how to work more is the Dominator and Plasma guns. If you can show your tips on it would be happy to give it a try.
With all of the between tier weapons, would it be best to rank them 1 through 10?
the problem i have with the scorcher is that it doesn't pack that much damage despite having only fifteen rounds, and on top of that only has seven magazines total. without a supply backpack, I find myself constantly running out of ammo when playing solo unless i take a support weapon for clearing out the trash.
Great job thank you man
thanks for the comment and thanks for wathing
Great list! I have 250 hours (hard to imagine how you got 400) and I agree with essentially everything. I might put the defender in S, because it really is so perfect with a lot of secondary gun, but that’s my only discrepancy.
im at 500+ right now but when I a de this video I didnt even check for a like 10 days or so lol so I didnt remake the intro just to say 500 hours :D:D:D
putting incendiary breaker in b against bugs is almost criminal, probably the strongest weapon for clearing them. Can also deal with the heavies to some extent
ya now it is, before it wasnt
none of the weapons in the game are hitscan fun fact. try shooting a spore bloom from rlly far and there will be a delay on the impact, some weapons have faster velocity than others but the devs made all the weapons as true to their irl counterparts as possible, (or how they would react if they existed)
Also I think the Blitzer is way underrated! Solo, yes it's C, but in a group setting its great!
Shoots heads off larger targets and multi shots small targets, get in the front while you have a squad behind you and watch the murder!
Frees up your back and special weapon slot also for an arc gun!
Yea I love that shotty
Great list, though I gotta disagree on the Arc Blitzer. Combo it with a Rover and make sure you have good positioning - you clean house. Stagger effect is top notch as well.
You should say it whether is Premium weapon, for new player or not owning Premium's player is very helpfull
for example the premium weapon LAS-16 SICKLE only cost 20 medals. people maybe will want that information
Punisher should be higher if you're rating is just vs terminids. The crowd control with this weapon is fantastic not just for yourself, but also allows you to help out squad mates. I've out killed squad mates that are experienced sickle users consistently in most matches But you're review on the slugger is bang on.
S : PLAS-1 Scortcher (meds, hit-scan, high dammage, good fire rate, low max ammo) ; LAS-16 Sickle (laser, fire rate++, no medium pen) ; SG-8S Slugger (hard to use, bad for mass zergs, clear meds)
A-S : Jar-5 Dominator (clear med+zergs) ; Punisher-Plasma (powerful, AOE, hard to use, slow, bullet drop)
Arc Blitzer head shots, staggers, hits two enemies at once, infinite ammo... God tier
Are you gonna do a list vs bots? Cuz the diligence is A vs them
It'd be good to compare this to an automaton tier list to see which higher tier weapons move down and which lower tier weapons move up. As for my thoughts on the list I totally agree with your S tier, all 3 are amazing, I'm also glad to see someone put incendiary breaker a bit lower on the list. The amount of people who ask why I'm using the sickle in game and try to get me to use the IB is crazy.
incendiery needs a DOT damage iincrease, or else there is no reason to use it over other shotties, they are better, ya the burn goes through armor but it doesnt mean much if it takes super long ehich it does
@@Crazymrpipzincendiary breaker are great against the bats. They looks weak against fire, and the shoots spread more than others shotties..
Sickle superiority
should say whether is Premium weapon tho
You don't have to kill bots though. bot typing gif
slugger is the best primary for me, very good damage, medium armor penetration and push back boss bugs and hunters. amazing
For my the sickel is my go to all around even though it can only damage up to light armor. I’ll just combine it with the new stageterm electric cannon. Combine with the shield back pack. It’s my go to anywhere.
5:20 I mean, it's right there in their name. BILE titan.
cross if I knew that much ENGLISH to know what Bile is than ya :D:D:D gotta git gud with the language :D at least I can speak okay so thats a W :D
Good list, I agree.
sickle is S tier all around. chews thru non armored bots and bugs like they're wet cake. My main weapon and its so hard to not use. That's why I'm watching this vid. lol. The slugger was definitely a solid choice too. that shotgun is superb and with great ammo reserves. I'll have to try the scorcher
If the Dominator had a slightly larger mag it would be consensus pick against the bots and even still it’s my go to for the clanks
Great stuff MrPipz! I'm with 444 hours as of today and I have to disagree with S-tiering any primaries that can get you killed from up-close (but that's just me, just sharing my thoughts), but otherwise, love the picks!
I mean no disrespect what so ever but it is a skill issue based on your reasoning. Those weapons can do things other ones can't, hence the rating
all love ma guy
Looks like I have to give the Dominator a try
I disagree on the scythe. It sucks short range however if your playstyle is medium/long range it’s decent versus bugs and paired with the rover it becomes pretty good. Just don’t try and never reload. If you treat it like a normal gun it works well for a chaff clear weapon.
Also combo’d with the laser cannon allows for infinite sustained fire, which works great for clearing everything short of a titan
im happy ur enjoying it
@@Crazymrpipz I agree the sickle is pretty much the indisputably better choice overall now. However, before the sickle, I was a scythe enjoyer, and I just have to say that you probably underestimated it a bit because you weren't using it to its strength, which is slicing off limbs for kills (it also feels like the scythe actively auto-aims to efficiently slice off legs if you just hipfire in the general area of them). This can result in surprisingly decent performance vs even some tougher enemies, like brood commanders, and many automatons that can be killed by taking out a leg. In the vid, you're still going for the headshot, which will always be disappointing.
it's a great weapon in my opinion
Plasma shotgun is my main primary. It’s so good against bots and bugs, has the potential to kill pretty much anything. I absolutely love it
its amazing! my fav weapon in the game 100%
They buffed the counter sniper I love to use it against automatons! Give it a try if you ever fight bots it’s great.
The Blitzer against Automatons is RADICALLY different, especially when you're going against multiple berserkers. It's also useful against hulks and devastators.
Short range weapons generally struggle against bots and it doesn't come much more short range than the Blitzer. I feel like some people just love zapping stuff so they're trying to convince themselves a turd isn't a turd with this one.
What’s a good side arm for plasma shotty?
Think defender is S tier, the ability to run and gun while doing good damage is 👍 medium armor enemies have spots that can be hit with light penetration weapons so the ability to run and gun and aim for those areas is awesome.
I spent my credits on the second premium battle pass just to get the weapon you hyped so much in this video, the plasma shotty. I was excited to use it and test it out. And i found that is AWFUL at all levels. Ammo management feels bad, damage is also dissapointing. And it can kill you. Can't see a reason why this weapon is ranked so high.
I dont have either one, bit it seems to me that the plas1 and the jar5 are basically filling the same role. Is this the case? Whats the ammo economy like between the 2 because they are very different in their ability to unlock.
they are very different, Plas shotgun can destroy chargers from any angle and the ad clear is better than jar5
I'm sorry incendiary breaker can wipe terminid spawns with a third the ammo as the usual you just gotta understand how many shots it takes. On top of that if you have a height advantage you can spray this baby on a wide scale and just demolish all small enemies and heavily damage the others without even directly aiming at them.
Basic Liberator is good vs everything if I didn't know what I was going to be fighting, I would take a liberator every time obviously not what the video is about but just to point out its general strength makes it pretty good.
I agree the snipers are bad atm...if you want to snipe just take anti-material rifle (but against bugs I don't recommend it.)
I usually use the Punisher due to the insane stun/knockback it has against many bugs that like to get in close, and have gotten used to it in higher difficulties. I took it over the slugger due to the higher damage, but TIL that the slugger has medium armor penetration. Might switch to that one instead, since it seems like it is similar to the Punisher but able to kill annoying pests like bile spewers and defenders. Great list/ analysis.
Slugger + Lazer rover against bugs is so good. Throw eat or the new quasar on also and you're well suited to deal with anything.
I play using a controller on my handheld pc so i main punisher due to the bullet spread and just to let you know for slugger you have to be much more accurate since it has no bullet spread. If you use mouse maybe not much problem.
slugger is a beast, i take that everywhere I go except when i take autocannon i switch it out for the breaker
indeed it is
Finally a good weapon Tier List 🙂 I can only agree with you after playing the game 200+ hours
so u also havent seen sunlight in weeks... I respect it
can we use arc weapons again?
my game crashed every time i used it….
scorcher against bugs is terrible due to its ammo economy, you will ran out of ammo the moment you are swarmed by the enemy so i highly disagree with you being S tier against bugs..afterall a weapon with no ammo is useless and u cant resupply after 1 min .. so the weapon is good against bots
They need turn down the fire rate and recoil on the mp-98 knight i wanna use it outside of short bursts
I love the arc shotgun personally one of my favourites
happy ur enjoying it
Fellow arc blitzer chad
I'm torn between the slugger and scorcher....
I feel like Diligence and Fire Breaker should go up one and Lib Conc should go down a tier. Dili-CS now does medium pen(called AP3 by the community. All primaries doing "medium pen" and the MG43 support weapon do AP3). Slugger should go down 2-3 tiers IMO. Why would anyone take the slugger over something better for horde clear paired with an AP4 weapon like the AMR?
Slugger 3-4 taps Commanders and Armored spewers? Lol. Lmao even. The AMR *1-taps them.* And it does so as fast as the _Breaker_ shotgun. AMR+Supply Pack for life. On bugs AND bots. The only thing you need is a 2nd/3rd party crosshair overlay or a piece of tape/post-it note on the center of your screen so you can fire it in 3rd person reliably.
The laser feels almost exclusively for Automatons. It is useless against Termanids.
Appears there a big with fire shotgun
If your the host the fire does damage if your not it's just visual its doing no damage
He leaves out shooting limbs...that makes a huge difference
The colors are so red, my colors are so dull but I’m on like best performance lol
Unfortunatly, the SG-8S doesn't have any Medium Armor Pen anymore as of today :/
Bro what
I love the breakdown and not placing the gun down based on skill use.
But! The one gun that is just absolutely deserves to be placed in the doo doo list is the breaker! The initial damage is so poor for a shotgun that it struggles to even kill light bugs at even 20 feet ahead.
I literally shoot the little green shooter bugs at 15-20 feet, let the fire still work on it, and it still lived. I'm not sure If the fire stacks? But unloading with low initial dmg and if the fire doesn't stack, then it means it's wasted ammo waiting on dot dmg.
Awesome ❤
i have 300 hours and i completely agree, its the same on the bot side. Its just objectively true that these S tier weapons are better than the rest.
Can it punisher plasma used against robots?
I think I would rate the liberator concussive a little higher as well. It’s ability to keep hunters back and I find they become less aggressive when I use this gun.
It also handles spewers pretty well due to it being explosive. It only struggles if there are more than 2 stalkers on you
Do you play on PlayStation? Is there a difference to how some things work on PlayStation vs PC? Because I see you do cool stuff, go and try it on PC and can’t get it to work. Just want to know if it’s the game or if I just suck.
COMPLETLY AGREE
lets goooo
For the new players, could you tell where can we get each gun?
Warbonds
I find myself in agreement with the entire list lol.
noiceeeee
explosive liberator just got changed
If they nerf the scorcher that would be out of order it was a grind to get it
I really doubt they will
Scorcher is much better against automatrons, very powerful and great range but the ammo capacity and reserves aren't the best.
be nice to get a tier list for automotons
He doesn't play against bots I don't think.
I do play them but VERY RARELY, i just never enjoy going against enemies that kill me when I dont see whats killing me if that makes sense:) had the same problem in D4 and was so happy when they fixed it haha
@@Crazymrpipz i understand it just i have a feeling that the enxt major orders are going to be vs bots so i want to get on the train to beat them
@@Crazymrpipzgood Vietnam simulator
Blitzer trivializes bile spewers, stalkers and everything medium. Interrupts spewers on demand. Its not an add clear weapon. Its anti medium specialist with high mobility. Pair it with the rover and you will see it shine.
and so do other weapons that deal with medium armor but have better fire rate and ALSO destroy small enemies
Weapon is dog. Others shine. ✨
@@Shibbyna it's not bad
Disagree with you about the Breaker Incendiary that gun is great against huge crowds in any difficulties, only gun I used on impossible/Helldive mode, its affected against bots & bugs enemies will die just give yourself enough distance don't spam button let the fire built up. Gun is a S-tier. Learn how to use it don't give up on it.
If the blitzer shot any faster it would be too strong and eliminate the arc thrower
they have to do something, either increase the chain amount to other enemies or damage if u dont wanna eincrease the fire rate, at this point there is no reason to run it unless someone just enjoys thee weapon which is aboslutely fine
wait this man took like 5 hits from stalker and did not die wtf
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Nah a skillcheck for a gun is an element to judge tbh. Some people are not as good as others, some people are using controllers and its fairly difficult (even with the beautiful motion aiming) to be as precise as a mouse, and some people might just want to judge weapons based on ease of use.
I do think a caveat should be included to say if you do get good the weapon is easily s tier, but ultimately the skillcheck should be judged.
Though my case is due to injury lol.
I've always included skillcheck as part of a judgement for weapons because sometimes, the skillcheck is absurd. Take parries on dark souls for instance. Arguably the most powerful and efficient way to pvp. Has a WAY higher skillcheck to accomplish, than it does to exploit and bait parries.
Naturally i focused my playstyle on the latter and was able to rampage. Pvp aside though, here's a better example.
Railgun vs Devostator: headshot = 1 shot.
Anti material Rifle vs Devostator: headshot = 1 shot.
Same end result if you land the shot, but one is obviously easier to accomplish than the other.
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@@Crazymrpipz I think the main point i'm making is that a skill check comes into play no matter the individual, when in a pressure cooker situation, which is 100% helldivers 2 on higher difficulties.
I gave the anti material a good test run after this and had a lot of fun against the bots with it but on a lower difficulty, the precision required to kill the devostators combined with bullet sway just made it awful, and ironically disproved my final comparison which i implied one was obviously better than the other.
In a controlled situation the anti material sniper's scope would be vastly superior.
But the spammy nature and easier scope of the railgun makes the skill check much easier to pass, and lets you just keep trying as the thing, and its many friends, bumrushes you. Which was an experiance i had earlier today.
The Skill Check plays a part when pressure is applied. In a controlled situation unsafe mode will be a no brainer.
But when a charger and his big bro are bumrushing you, you're far more likely to pop before they get a chance to skewer you.
Skill checks influence performance even if you have mastered the weapon, and when another weapon can achieve the same result for similar cost but less effort, thats where i say judging a weapon based on skill checks is something i would recomend.
But ultimately no this doesn't mean the weapons are bad as you say just because of a skill check. But they should be judged on this basis.
A real world example is the AK 47. So easy a child can use it... unfortunately this is literal.
Dominator A-S? Why so much focus on medium armor lol, medium armor automatons all have weakspots that kill them nearly instantly, medium armor on bugs is either non threat (Hive Guards), or in case of green bile spewers, handled by support weapons like flamethrower, autocannons, arc thrower, railgun.
Dominator is B tier. If you ever tried helping your ally that is being jumped by stalkers with this gun you'll know why. Outside of weakspots (it has really high headshot modifier or smth like that), it deals very little damage for it's poor ammo economy and Autocannon level recoil.
My condolences to all those who will decide to buy Steel Veterans because they've watched this video and think Dominator is that good of a weapon.
Edit: sinc when Scorcher is hitscan lol, it's among the slowest projectiles across the primary weapons, excluding specialized weapon like plasma "shotgun". what is going on here.
Giving B tier to AR-23 Concussive is very generous, that's one of the most doodoo guns in the game. It has half the dps of Liberator, with 93% higher recoil per shot, AND 33% reduced mag size. It definitely a top tier contender in "worst gun in the game" competition.
Big facts
@@oreed8 Well, Dominator _can_ now be thrown to A-S thanks to very, very generous 50% damage buff it received shortly after that video.
But rest of my argument stands.
AB would just be B. Dominator is only A tier if you’ve played 400 hrs. I know what ur getting at tho.
Dominator is awesome:) the damage is amazing
Plasma thrower best weapon in the warbond imo
agreed
Very based
Is this helldivers 2 bug only channel? Just curious. Especially with the bot major orders now
nah, ill def make content on Illuminates, BOTS are not fun for me personally, when they add somekind of visual so that i can see when I am getting rocketed from 500 mile away thats not even on my screen Ill def enjoy it, for now im good, so i dont wanna make FAKE content for views when I seriously dont enjoy playing vs BOTS even though i think they are easier to fight
@Crazymrpipz ok! Thanks for the reply!!! I still love the bug content no matter what! It's good doing what you enjoy cause if not then where would the fun be?! Love the content man!
@@Crazymrpipz I mean I play against bots a lot, never been rocketed by something I couldn't see. Unless you're talking about their artillery if so, their is an indicator for that. They literally radio in and tell you that you are in artillery range. Just gotta look up to see the mortars coming in. If you're referring to bots with rocket launchers etc, just gotta be more aware of your surroundings and stick to cover. Also literally armor for that too. 50% explosive resistance armor helps with that as well. I enjoy the challenge of bots, gotta play differently and be more aware of the battlefield. Bugs are just turn your brain off and just destroy everything. But I think that's a good thing, I like how the bugs are easier to deal with and the bots are harder. Having different enemy types of varying difficulty just adds more to the game for the long run. Hopefully they add even more enemy types in the future.
Eruptor is all I use
when is the tier list against automatons?
when they fix automatons killing me from iles away without any indication that im gonna die :D
@@Crazymrpipz as it should be, in war no one tells you haha
I find automatons much more fun than insects also due to the brutality with which you can die if you're not careful, I'm sure that if you spend 300 hours even with automatons you won't need any indicators anymore, as happens to me.
@@vincenzovarriale396 in war I dont fight bugs and robots on different planets and people dont fly in from outer space from pods 😂😂😂😂 this isnt a realistic game lol amd this has happened in othet games and they fixed it with time and its alredy talked about and they will be adding visuals so people dont die from off screen attacks:)
@@Crazymrpipz they always shoot you from afar even if they aren't robots x) (trust me)
as for this being an unrealistic game... I have to tell you that it is much more realistic than many other games that don't have aliens or insects, and that's also why it's so good, the magazine that if you don't finish it you lose ammo , precisely a realistic detail, or the mecha that explodes much more easily if it is loaded with ammunition. So yes my advice is to learn how not to get shot from a distance and it's also simpler than you think, many types of enemies have a clearly visible red LED that looks at you _intensely_ , other enemies you know perfectly based on the type who can shoot you with precision and who doesn't, just practice. (after all you have made a very accurate tier list which explains how your 300 hours have a very important impact on your words, I find insects boring, I have played automatons a lot more)
@@Crazymrpipz and if the illuminati are the same like in the first helldivers (laser snipers km away, cast energy wall barriers that will prevent us from moving, enemies that teleport) I can't wait to die there many times heh
we have more or less an approximate date when should they arrive?
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Concussive is doodoo garbage tier no way thats in B-tier, or whatever that first weapon in the Steeled veterans is called
bruh.. why didn't you just make an a-f tier... Every weapon from b and below is so awful :/
bro glossed over my guy punisher in 3 seconds lol. nice list though.
hahaha :D:D:D
ill agree that the arc blitzer by itself is bad. When you use it along side a guard dog rover in terminids its actually pretty good. It keeps back all bugs except spewers, chargers, and titans but thats what support weapons, strategems are for
appreciate the comment! guard dog makes any weapon feel better though right:) thats the problem, whatever the arc Blitzer will do others will do faster and better in My opinion but dude... if you enjoy the gun who the fook cares what I say :D slay some bugs!
Skill issue
Jar dominator is basically the slugger, with no pushback. But it has overall more ammo (though you have to reload).
Combine this with a rover against bugs to take care of the fodder and its a powerhouse.
Meh
This is so 🍔
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Plasma shotgun is doodoo, low damage, possible killings yourself, not much ammo, absolutely no reason to no use it over the scorcher (which isn't that great either)
You’re absolutely wrong.
Great video, I agree with this tier list
Blitzer is good and all, but there are other weapons that does everything faster, and u gotta be fast at difficulty 8 and 9
I still havent been able to master the puni plas though🥲gonna dive in there and practice💪
u shall become the LORD OF PLASMA!!!
I like a lot of your reasoning, especially placement of defender. The only reason I think slugger doesn't deserve S tier is because if you reeaaally think about it, the scorcher is a better version of the gun in almost every way. Meaning it's gotta be 1 tier below. Thoughts???
its a playstyle thing in my opinion more than better or worse, slugger is much better close range and has much better ammo economy, also kills medium armor easier which further makes ammo economy better, on the other side scorcher has more range and does better vs eggs and shrooms so for me its like whatim feeling more that day haha
You can’t just add tiers to a tier list 🥲