Day 14 RECAP | Amber Heard Takes The Stand, Dr. Hughes Cross Exam | Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard
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- Day 14 kicked off with the cross examination of Dr. Dawn Hughes, a psychologist and expert witness for Amber Heard. Wayne Dennison performed the cross, one that divided opinion on the panel as to it's effectiveness. Following the cross Elaine Bredehoft returned for a brief redirect, before Dr. Hughes time on the stand ended.
Next up was Amber Heard herself. Direct examination of Ms. Heard is being conducted by Elaine Bredehoft. The first part of Amber's testimony was about her early life and upbringing, before moving into her beginnings in Hollywood. After establishing some of the early details of her life and career Amber moved into detailing some of the early alleged incidents of abuse by Johnny Depp. She talked about incidents at his home, on the set of The Rum Diaries, and on a flight to Russia.
We ended the day with Amber still in the early stages of her direct examination, and when things resume for Day 15 we will pick back up where we left off at the end of Day 14.
Rick Hoeg- @HoegLaw
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For some background- This is a defamation case between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for defamation stemming from her OpEd published in The Washington Post in 2018. Amber Heard is counter suing for defamation claims based on statements made by Johnny Depp's former lawyer. The trial is taking place in Fairfax, Virginia, the proper venue as The Washington Post is headquartered in said location. Presiding is Judge Penny Azcarate, Johnny Depp is represented by Ben Chew, Camille Vasquez, and more. Amber Heard is represented by Elaine Bredehoft, Ben Rottenborn, and more.
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What did you make of Day 14?
Proved to me how incompetent Johnny’s lawyers are
amber heard is bad at acting
I think the cross was enough for the jury to see the bias. I think anything more would have been showing Johnny’s side as the same as ambers side always digging into the witnesses on weird tangents. I thought it was short and effective from a layman’s perspective.
"performance of her life"
Some intense stories
So far, all that Amber Heard convinced me of is that Dr. Curry nailed her assessment.
Not really. There is more than sufficient evidence that Heard is a malignant narcissist.
Facts
Yep. And the recordings! For me, those are the real evidences. When she mocks Johnny with his book, or when she say "Tell them Johnny...". She is a sadist.
Omg specifically the part where Dr Curry talks about histrionic personality disorder. She explains how they use flowery language that uses a lot of words and descriptive language that in the end doesn’t say much. Nails Amber’s testimony perfectly!
Dr. Curry is a brilliant expert witness but it's the content of her testimony that needs to convince the jury.
So suspicious that she took a photo of a bruised arm, but NEVER took a photo of her "numerous" other injuries, bloody noses etc. Evil exists Alyte. I worked for police 30 yrs. Sociopaths are among us.
Honestly, I was surprised BPD and HPD were the diagnosis and not psychopathy/sociopathy (from birth/developmental). She seems to exhibit symptoms of them.
@@goldenhate6649 I think that’s because the claim was that she was had PTSD because of Johnny. So BPD and HPD are closer than psychopathy/sociopathy. But that’s just my best guess
I thought the same thing, she testified that she was hit in the face numerous times and she threw something at him but she doesn't document her face??? Could he have grabbed her arm to make her stop if in fact he caused it.
Also nose bleeds also happen when you snort coke up your nose, which we all know she did.
Plus heck, the infamous Australian day where his finger was cut off, she said he cut the finger throwing bottles and penetrated her with one of the bottles, after punching her and dragging her naked on the glasses (I think she even said he broke her nose but maybe I’m mistaken).. and there’s audio of this outcome, not only showing her apologizing frenetically saying she didn’t meant to hurt him and that he needed her, but also no one else (including a nurse) acknowledging her bruises and situation, that would HAVE being noticeable if what she said was true.
This alone is what made me understand this wasn’t an average toxic relationship case, is about one of them being dangerous to society, for either _doing_ all these things or _lying_ these things happened.
The most terrifying thing about AH lying is the damage this does for genuine abuse victims, who are already too scared to come forward. The amount of damage this does is unfathomable. I love your recaps, thank you and I absolutely adore your co-presenters today 😍😍😍
Get real. The worst thing is she has the guts to speak out about a nasty, self- indulgent junkie. 😎👌
@@karlpearson3917 kavanaugh ones were real bro.
@@karlpearson3917 It's inherently misogynistic for you to make the claim that most women in these cases are liars when for a fact we know that even when a man is convicted of assault with multiple witnesses that they still get off. It would be misandry to say that all most men are abusers and to say most women are liars is misogynistic.
Real abuse victims don't emote about their soul mate. They may go "I was naive enough to think this person was my soul mate'. I knew for sure she was lying in that moment.
@@anjou6497 you are a straight🤡
I felt it strange how detailed AH would get about each event but rarely talked about how she felt, or what she did in response.
Well she mentioned slipping and sliding on tiles and staring at carpets and lamps so I guess that's something lol
You managed to get it out before the live!! Well done, but please stop apologising for being busy, you are putting in the work with this trial, you and all your lawtube friends
I agree! I hope she will see this. The amount of work that she, and her editor, have done so far is ginormous and I hope she takes pride in that, instead of pushing herself more with apologies. Please take time to rest and prevent yourself from burning down at the end of this trial!
She's outside of the States too, right?
@@amylynnhunt55 No Alite is in the US
I was willing to give Amber the benefit of the doubt, but every time there was an “objection” it’s as if a director had just yelled “cut” and the actors stop acting.
It's rare to see a civil trial such as this with two Hollywood actors streamed live. JD and AH both know what they're doing in front of a camera(s). Same could be said of JD's testimony.
So, you're not willing to give her the benefit of the doubt? She jas only spoken for one day...seems you've already decided she is lying.
@@gdaymates431 well yes…she says alot of things with no evidence ..
@@kryskrys6428 I mean, yeah. I get it. But also, many people do not have evidence when they have been a victim of crime. But I get that it looks really bad because she has so many pictures and tape recordings of other things :)
It's funny her only witnesses from Johnnie's side that saw the abuse are Jerry Judge, who is dead, Lily-Rose and Jack, who are excluded from the trial and cant even be quoted, and the stewardess who isnt on the witness list. 🤔 Also, Lily-Rose has said in the past that Ambers story is false. But it can't be used in the courtroom.
Also pretty ridiculous that Doctor Karen opened the door to previous abuse with her ex-wife, but the judge doesn't allow it in. Absolutely ridiculous. Amber has a litteral arrest for physical abuse of a spouse and it cant be used. WTF.
I missed that. Was it actually ruled on by the judge now, or previously?
Yeah I hate how they could never mention how she was literally arrested for DV but that can't be used to testify to the likelihood of her being the abuser rather than abused. It shows a clear pattern of behavior and is incredibly relevant to the case.
Also, the kids 100% should NOT have to be involved in this in any way, but is there a specific reason to why they can't testify against her? I'm like 95% sure Lily-Rose is in her 20s now? And Jack too? Or is it a bias thing?
I remember how Dr. Curry said that people with the personality disorders that she diagnosed Amber with express themselves in a charismatic and sofisticated way, that feel empty, that lack emotion, Dr. Curry said that people with these disorders rarely said "I felt this way" or "I was x feeling"
AH said a lot "he did this to me", "I stood there" "I did nothing" "I reacted this way" "I remember thinking this about this moment" but has never said throughout this testimony "I was scared" "I was paralised/shock due to my disbelive/fear" "I felt fear" and so more examples of emotions that she could have expresed but did not. The only emotions she expresed were embarasment (that applies to her ego and others percepcion of her) and love towards Johnny
To put an example is not the same sayin "I felt that maybe if I said the right words I would be able to make it stop" than "I remember thinking to myself that maybe if I said the right words I would be able to make it stop". In an emmotional situation or when remembering one normal people will use the first one because in emotional situations you remember your emotions people with the personality disorders described by Dr. Curry will use the latter because their emmotions are all over the place all the time and fluctuating so is easier to remmember their rational rather than their emmotions
I think that is whar Dr. Curry ment when she said that the stories of Amber were charismatic but were empty, and lack content
PD: Sorry for my english I am from Spain
PD2: all of this was obious to me because when Dr. Curry explained this I was confuse thinking can somebody would be able to describe these events without describing emmotions and then came Amber and to my surprise manage to do it
No need to apologize for your English, you expressed your thoughts perfectly in 5 paragraphs. And in those 5 paragraphs you made a few spelling mistakes that didn’t alter the meaning of the words. I have to speak a second language as part of my job, if I could write it as well as you do I would be very, very Pleased with myself. 🙂
Absolutely perfectly wrote exactly what i was thinking but was struggling to put into words - and i'm English, so thank you for that.
Not really true, rather you believe her or not but she recently talked a lot about how she was feeling, that she was scared and all.
@@VivCrepsley not really, I think I have only hear once from her lips the word "scared"and in only one of the incidents she remember feeling pain (the broken nose) which I find weird.
On the other hand I have not hear from her lips the words terrified, nor fear, nor petrified, anxious, nervous, shaking, paralised, difficult bearthing, difficult swallowing, description of the way she was breathing, difficulties standing up due to the shaking of the knees, descriptions of the sound of her heart on her ears and none other physical trait or signals of fear, stress or pain that the body sends in the kind of situations she was describing.
She has described horrible events, and cried/ making facial expresions of sorrow/pain while doing it, but she very very rarely has described how she was feeling during those events
If you see the interview of the sisters that escaped the house of horrors (confirmed traumatic event) there are a lot of differences on the way they handle themselves, when they show facial emition and the way and words they use to describe their traumatic events
And I know every victim is different but putting her testimony in combination with what Dr. Curry said, and comparing her testimony with interviews and testimonies of victims of other traumatic events, makes AH testimony even more odd (at least to me)
You had a few typos (such as paralyzed) but your English is great! I think you're better at writing in English than a lot of native speakers.
As someone who attends group therapy. I've witnessed many traumatic accounts of abuse from multiple people with an array of personalities. To me Heard's testimony, comes across as very rehearsed and inauthentic. I'm no authority on the subject, but it felt very off.
I agree.. She seemed to say the "right" things but the actual reality of suffering through DV doesn't seem to be coming through her narrative. DV normally makes the person and the listener uncomfortable and emotional. You can't breeze through your version with grace and ease, IT'S ugly and uncomfortable. She would have SOME kind of emotion.
Always trust your gut
We all feel the same. Because it is OFF. I’m extremely offended by it as a DV survivor.
@@LuvOneAnother She doesn't personally care about other people's pain so she can't accurately fake it because she never bothered to really listen to it when others described it. This trial could give people a real insight into how the minds of people like her work.
Her testimony sounded to me like a very badly written monologue, especially the part about remembering the dirty carpet. And after listening to Johnny’s testimony, I found her to be completely unbelievable.
Also, I’m disappointed that Johnny’s lawyers did not attack Dr. Hugh’s testimony a bit more in cross, but I can see that they will have bigger fish to fry, namely Amber’s cross. I hope we get a taste of it today before the break.
She also kept staring at the sconce in the trailer incidence. too many repetitions for comfort...
@@asmasaeed8698 ...contrived details to attempt to make her work of fiction seem real.. same with doggie stung by the bee, i have loads more examples....
I think Depp's team does well in being mostly relaxed and sympathetic, however, I agree that more scrutiny, more toughness, was on call for the cross of that ridiculous unprofessional psychologist!
Yeeees 👏👏👏 it was so hard to watch
I know right? I was looking forward to dr’s sizzle on cross 😂😂 Johnny’s team is brilliant. I am sure they will get to her at some stage. I also like how they don’t go to pity levels like the other group of clowns 🤡🤡🤡 OBJECTION🤡
I definitely struggled with her testimony. From the very beginning I said what Hoeg said. I’m a survivor, I have PTSD, send I genuinely WANT to believe her because who the HELL would lie about such things, but my GUT told me she was lying, even my little knowledge of body language showed me inconsistencies. But the things she alleged were triggering for me. It was hard to listen to but I did anyway. They are things I have been through, so I want very badly to believe her, but my theory is that she is explaining REAL situations that happened, but from Johnnys perspective, and it’s very possible that Johnny doesn’t even remember all of the details or every situation, because I sure don’t. I could not give you the level of detail that she gave in her testimony because my abuse has become very muddled in my memory, which I believe is a way our brains cope with the trauma.
Who the hell would lie about such things? Narcissistic sociopaths would certainly lie about such things, and there are MANY of these types of people in the world.
i firstly want to send love and healing to you through what you’ve expressed to have been through. i agree with everything you stated. i truly believe her narratives are being told from johnnys perspective. i read somewhere that it wasn’t johnny who was dangling a dog out of a window but it was her. so i think her acting role isn’t her actually interpreting herself as the victim but its cringey her acting as if she was johnny who is the victim if that makes sense. very telling
I so agree. I grew up in an abusive household until I was 18 (am 22 now) and I went into her testimony with a very open mind. I want her not to be lying. But I kept having this feeling like the way she was describing things just didn’t ring true.
When I try to remember certain abuse incidents that happened just 5 years ago, I have blurred memory of some sections and that vividly remember others. I couldn’t tell you what exactly happened or was done/screamed in most of the incidents to be honest.
The way she speaks about these events sounds more like she’s narrating a story. She switches between emotions - one moment she is seemingly crying uncontrollably (without any tears) and then within a couple of sentences she is perfectly composed. That’s just not how emotions work.
I really wanted to believe her, but my gut is just screaming no.
Sending love, I agree she is reflecting somethjng. I think amber is transplanting memories of her father's abuse onto johnny :(
I want to point out that if she is recounting true events but from Johnny’s perspective, that would explain why her story may be believable to some, because she isn’t exactly LYING, and she is actually using real memories when telling these stories, she has just basically sprinkled in some truth to her lies, which makes them all the more believable.
As someone who has been gaslighted and having people struggle to believe me about my traumas, Amber acting horribly on the stand was triggering, it made me so angry. Her little stories didn't line up, they just... I don't know it's frustrating.
If this was their "expert" witness, it will be interesting to see what other witnesses will look like. I had second-hand embarrassment from watching Amber's "testimony" on the stand yesterday.
Me too. I couldn't watch it live, it made me too uncomfortable. I had to wait for the recap. She is so clearly lying, and her acting abilities are not strong.
Same!!
Not testimony. The word is performance.
Amber’s face changes during her testimony got me laughing and cringing at the same time.
I already had it with the expert. And thats why i decided to not look at Amber testimony. Just waiting for her cross hope they are forcing the answers out more
OMG! It’s a furry friend recap 🤣 Indie in the back laying on her back, legs up and kitty on the desk ❤️ I love it 😍
Lookin for the comment about the dog straight chillin 😂
Just stop it. 😎
amazing! 3:46 for anyone who wants to see pup
He went total derp and quite honestly I was living for it and had to go back to listen to what she said again lol 💚
I am team JD HOWEVER, I decided that I would listen to her with an open mind. AH ticked me off.
I suffered SA as an child and adult as well as DV from my first marriage and in my childhood from my father. I still have panic attacks and anxiety attacks.
She never cried. Never avoided eye contact. No shuddering or low speaking. No panic or anxiety attack. No shame or embarrassment. Kept her head up.
While all survivors react differently, I did not believe her. She just mad me angry. I don't believe her.
She’s SO disgusting 🤢 and even a WORSE actress
Agree
It's been almost 20 years since my DV relationship and I am terrified of running into him. I saw him in a store once (15 years later) and started to panic and couldn't look at him. I was frozen in old memories and fear.
Even when being brave and sure of myself, I wouldn't look at him when speaking - I just wanted the re-living it to be over.
I suffered SA as a child and DV in my first long term relationship, I’ve being diagnosed with PTSD since a child also. Being made to speak about it is literally one of the worst things you have to do because a.) it’s humiliating and b.) it brings all the negative emotions associated with it back. You get visibly anxious/uncomfortable no matter how hard you try and stay composed, it is nearly impossible to suppress your emotions if you have diagnosed PTSD and your re-telling the traumatic events. She just seemed like she was telling someone else’s story. Her emotions/ gestures aren’t matching up with the trauma she’s meant to be feeling whilst recalling specific events and she seems COMPLETELY in control of everything she is saying and doing, which just screams liar. I hope the jurors see it too
This really is puzzling, isn't it. AH's whole persona around everything. Amber has clearly received super duper support with intense counseling. She's an actor, she's been abused by her father, she's been abused as an adult. It's just very interesting. Take care.
My mom suffered from BPD. When she and my dad split, she called his job claiming he was abusing her (the opposite was true) and tried to get him fired. Once when she got mad at me, she called my husband's boss and told them he was stealing from the company. She was an insanely good liar, and I believe it was because she came to believe her own lies. Evil exists for sure.
I hope she didn't succeed in getting anyone fired?
@@davitavandervelde6870 Fortunately no!
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the people who couldn't excise her from their lives suffered from her BPD? ;)
@@viljakainu1548 Also a fair point. Took me years to recover and finally forgive her a few years before she passed away. She mellowed with age and illness somewhat but was still quite the handful.
Yes! My mom has been diagnosed with the same. She’s tried all kinds of crazy stuff to retaliate against my dad and anyone else who dared cross her. Amber acts eerily similar to my mom.
The curious reaction to any objection where it seems her emotion stops suddenly and starts back up again reminds me of a director yelling “cut!”
Well she's only got so many fake tears stored up in those fake tear ducts, so girl's gotta conserve them between takes, yo!
@@texasbeast239 there wasn't a single tear shed, though.
Yes!! And also there was another moment in which AH was getting emotional and then Elenain asked the next question sbout the next event and the emotion disapered in second
I think it was bweteen talking about how she was feeling about JD and she saying that he has to sides and asking about the first time she met Johnny's children
I can’t even watch her anymore . It’s literally making me sick watching her. It’s no different from the UK trial. She portrays herself as a innocent victim that is incapable of doing anything wrong. I hope the jury can see through this and actually follows the evidence but i don’t have faith that is going to happen .
No i couldn't, thought it was pathetic, so stopped watching
Same. I literally got sick to my stomach. I'll only watch the recaps of each trial day because they are less emotional
Yes I haven't watched. It's too triggering. I read the comments about it. I can't stand the lies and false witness and she's doing this under oath
She also learned her lines for this ‘act’ on the stand.
The thing with Johnny….it's like the sun shines on you, and it's glorious. And then he forgets you and it's very, very cold.
When you have his attention, you feel like you're the only person in the world, that's why everybody loves him so much.
Straight from The Talented Mr Ripley
Did anyone else notice that when she showed the picture of the bruise on her arm and was describing the event, she said “.and i don't know how many times he hit me in the face". Seems odd that there are no bruises on her face, just the arm🧐
Right?! Why is nobody mentioning this?! They show us a bruise on her arm and she goes on this long meandering story, but she never once says what caused the bruise! I’m really hoping the jury picked up on that.
Twitter is flooded with snippets of AH’s speech compared with movie scenes and… She is quoting verbatim at multiple points in her monologue 🥶
Whoa 😳 i haven’t seen those yet, but I want to check them out!
Unfortunate that the Jury can’t see those, but sure hope JD’s lawyers use it in cross!
I noticed that several times, it was the wrist break, and noticing how dirty the carpet is that stood out to me
I felt sick listening to that Pooper Trooper. The audacity to try to be on the same level as real victims of abuse is sickening. This trial is sickening. She needs to go to jail or locked up somewhere before she does anymore damage.
💩 *Pooper Trooper *, hehe 🤣‼️
I agree, she should be prosecuted later for lying to the jury and false representation! She's hurting wo. who do suffer sexual harassment etc ...
Add PSYCHO to that nickname. She truly IS PSYCHOTIC!
Hahaha haven't heard Pooper Trooper yet. I like that.
I tried to keep an open mind, but Amber's testimony looked like a performance of a lifetime. I never saw tears, but she was trying to cry. Johnny just seems more authentic. He is no saint, but none of his former partners say he was abusive.
I went into this trial fully believing her. After Johnny's case and the ugly crying with no actual tears yesterday, I'm horrified at the damage done to this innocent man. I do think Amber believes a lot of her own story, though.
When u lies alot u get in a habit to make up shyt and you can still remember and the lies stick w you. So yea
Welcome to the club pal
I agree. It's how she gets the authentic facial micro-expressions that Spidey pointed out. If you're absolutely convinced about your own lies then you could possibly sell it to most who aren't really paying close attention. This is how she is trying to win this. No doubt this is going on her CV afterwards hahahaha
Agree! But that doesn’t make it true. Also, I was expecting more professional acting from her 🤡😂 ugly crying without tears? Oh please.
I don't understand how anyone could have started the trial fully believing her. How'd that happen?
As someone who’s been following this case for 2 years, I looked forward to this. However, I had to turn it off altogether after the cross and seeing her bad acting.
Thanks Aylite and team.
Same
I’m right there with you
I think I lasted 10 minutes into her testimony then I had to switch off. She makes me sick to my stomach. Such a horrible person.
It's like she's auditioning for a role that she'll never get. It's really hard to watch, I got second hand embarrassment watching that.
If I'm honest, Dr. Hughes seems to have lost people even before her cross. She has a great resume, but I am sure she turned people off with that gender biased language and really put her impressive credibility at risk imo. A huge part of this case is that Depp's abuse isn't taking seriously, especially when there's evidence of Amber mocking him, because he's a man. It seems unwise to lean into that stigma with a doctor who doesn't appear to recognize it either. Maybe Heard's team was hoping this would bolster Amber's mocking tone, as if she's right to believe Depp's abuse isn't serious. I don't know any better really, but maybe an expert who has more experience with cases where women are abusers, and who still believes Amber, would have been far more effective, but idk maybe that play wasn't in their cards.
Yeah, I stopped listening almost immediately with her gendering
agreed. I wonder if they had a hard time finding an someone that would testify in favor of amber.
Question are you male? Cause that will give me hope that at least some males on the jury will realize how the dr was testifying with all stigmatized words for male and female roles
Yeah, if it wasnt because people in social media is supporting him overwhelmly probably the case would be dissmised, and because he is Johnny Depp a much loved actor. Imagine what could happen to a merely normal man.
They probably couldn't find anyone to endorse her. That's a huge possibility too.
Kitty knew you would talk about maybe triggering stuff and decided to be the perfect calming distraction in the video x3
Thank you Kitty 🧡
The frustrating thing about that cross yesterday, was wanting Dennison to get control of Hughes' rambling. However, not being an attorney, I have to think that letting her ramble on was strategic, allowing room for Currey to dismantle her on recall closer to the end.
I couldn't listen to AH. I tried, but had to shut her off. Didn't sound real at all.
For me there is such a noticable difference in how they protect the other, even now. With Johnny Depp going out of his way not to character assassinate her, even now, after everything he suffered as a result of this; and Amber Heard doing a sneak version the exact opposite, character assassination camouflaged as something else, like care. Like when described how she had to clean up after him.
Very true!!!
Her nightmare story, is a total distroy ... for murdering him not hurting him.
Extream behaviors are comparable to her diagnosis from at least 1 comprehensive evaluation. Nothing that extream in behavior would go unnoticesd over time, there would be a pattern showing itself. JD has no history, yet she does.
Like a drug habit. A cycle. A fix. Serotonin is released with each high. Depps avoidance of the emotional was made clear, and drugs for that reason were used, rather than conflict was also made clear.
I hope cross evaluations bring up her tabloids too, in order to pollute the jury. Seems Heards team likes to cheat and set things up with great pra tice at at. JDs team needs to get more control and fight back. I'm afraid he might loose to the jury and steriopicatyical bias otherwise.
Borderline personality can switch on and off, being very convincing. She was doing this, with building up generally being done for the times with no physical evidence, to bring attention towards emotions. Physical evidence inconsistent with the amount of detail she puts into everything else.
I felt like I was listening to narration from a book, rather than an experience in my opinion. Too many exact descriptions from movie lines as well.
Playing into sympathizers, for attention. Reminds me of Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSBP). Very hard to prove without evidence, when people enable her. Sure enough she now has a child for the next fix. My opinion.
I can’t believe you were live for 13.5 hours yesterday! You rock but it’s ok you don’t need to stay that long. I hope you get some rest !
Lol, she's fine, lawyers talk for a living, she didn't lay bricks for 13 hours.
all those superchats $$$, I'd talk all day too
Your dog is so funny! Lightened my mood through all this serious stuff, thanks to him/her and to you for including both pets.
As someone who suffer both from PTSD and complex PTSD I just want to educate ya'll a bit. Complex PTSD is not mentioned in this case at all so I guess we are throwing that out the window - but it would have been a better diagnosis for Amber, be it true or not. PTSD is triggered by one or a few very traumatic events. Complex PTSD is developed over time if you are in an unsafe environment that you can't control. So someone who is in an abusive relationship for years can develop C-PTSD from it. But often it is something children develop - adults can, but it takes more for an adult as adults generally have much more autonomy than children.
I developed C-PTSD from growing up under constant fear from my abusive mom, and PTSD from a single event where someone died in an accident right in front of my eyes. Big difference. I'm not a psychologist but I can confidently say that "IPV by Johnny" is not something you can list as a triggering even for PTSD. If they'd gone with C-PTSD or at least explained that they are talking about a different kind of PTSD they'd have more grounds to wiggle, but since they are saying specifically PTSD the criteria is clear that is has to be ONE or A FEW very traumatic (life threatening/changing) events. So for example you could get PTSD from an abusive partner if he/she for example tried to kill you or very, very seriously injured you. But then you'd list that specific event in the diagnosis notes.
Very interesting input, thank you. I would guess that if you devellop Ptsd you can pinpoint the right moment that happened, and it seems that AH can't do that,and has no real proof the violence happend in the way she says it.
I totally agree. Though my best guess, it's not mentioned because C-PTSD isn't in the DSM5 yet (hopefully one day soon!). even though many therapists in practice consider it as valid, it's not considered by the higher ups unfortunately :(
so I think technically since this is in court and everything has to be by the book so to speak...
I also know it is quite common for women with autism and Cptsd to be misdiagnosed with personality types, and this has occurred to me as a possibility as well. Not saying that's the case here, just throwing that out there.
CPTSD isn't in the DSM5 which is why it isn't used as a diagnosis, because it would be technically invalid. PTSD isn't always from one specific event (see veterans for example), and so the triggers are infinite and unique to each individual.
@@georgieeve2026 one or a few events. And of course if the person had to stay in the environment like veterans have to (unless their PTSD makes them unable) then it will be hard to pinpoint which of all the terrible things they experienced caused it. But it's still quite specific that it's from the traumatic experiences they are subjected to.
@@ClementineDaydream yeah, I know it's not in the DSM-5 and that's why I said they could at least explain that it's a different form of PTSD than what we typically think of.
I'm Autistic as well and it was misdiagnosed! I was afraid of my mom and didn't know how to explain it because of my difficulties with speech and emotions, plus I grew up in that environment so I didn't know it wasn't normal. Got diagnosed as a Paranoid Schizophrenic from what my mom told them about me being scared of her.. Of course she never told them the horrible things she did to me. I think that's why I'm draw to this trial. I know what it's like to be the victim but have some narcissist spin it all around on me.
As much as this is a horrible situation for everyone involved, I've never really been interested in law but it has been absolutely fascinating watching this court case! Plus I am glad it is becoming more "normalised" that men can be abused too.
"Plus I am glad it is becoming more "normalised" that men can be abused too"
As a man I am not happy to be abused period!. Normalized or not 😉😉
But seriously, it's good that there is more recognition that men can be vulnerable too
@@JohanArn1 100%
@@JohanArn1 You knew what I meant, haha!
I think the best approach is just working towards understanding both sexes instead of lifting one sex up
Thank you for your hard work on this trial and keeping us updated! I cant even imagine how hard your working right now! I watched you all day yesterday since I had the day off work.
I absolutely agree - you’re doing a grand job.
"When he shines his light on you, you feel special..." thank you the Talented Mr. Ripley.
I think one of the things missed here was that Johnny’s attorney also confronted the “expert” with the injury to Johnny’s finger and asked her if she would consider it minor violence which actually shook her a bit. I wish he would have followed up on that. Overall I think they did a good job not being aggressive while showing she is biased.
As for Amber, I literally never saw such bad acting in my life, she looks like she will cry but she never does, her eyes are not red and there is no feeling coming from her. It just feels empty.
If anything, I think after Dr Curry’s testimony I think people can actually see how truly disturbed she is.
What I noticed was she almost never used words like: pain, sadness, hurt etc in the description of the incidents.
She used:embarresed several times.
I found that very odd. And that she didn't really cry with any tears. If my heart had been broken by that intence love I would cry...with tears...ugly cry...
I learned in high school Drama Class that you never cry on stage without actual tears. Can't remember what we were supposed to do if we couldn't cry, but that stayed with me. I have some epic liars in my family. Never thought those classes would help 20 years later but they have.
Idk I used to cry a lot. But being on Zoloft has made it difficult to cry. Some people also just don't easily cry, especially in front of a room of people.
@@wowwee0 I understand. But as a sufferer from komplex PTS and SA survivor even 30 years later I have more emotions and physical reaction (shaking uncontrollable etc) than she has. The physical cues are not there and the way she talks about being embarresed instead of feeling shame is odd. And she talks a lot of needing to fight back and prove herself is so strange.
Thank you for this. Watching Heards expert be so unprofessional cause me so much anxiety and Mental fatigue that I couldn’t handle watching the rest of the day. So having the option of a well rounded short pill of information is exactly what I needed to stay up to date.
exactly the same here. The biased "expert" had my PTSD heavily triggered, not to even mention the audacity of the fake victim and her terrible narrative and bad acting. I'm out until the cross. Fortunately there are daily recaps, thanks to legal bytes !! Will an innocent, kind and generous man and great artist be harmed even further ? Let's just keep fingers crossed the justice will not be blind.
Thank you for saying this because it’s hard to admit, especially if you’re unsure what’s necessarily triggering … it’s just all of the lying and well, injustice. I’ll stick to the recaps until the cross.
exactly-i tried watching the psychologist and amber and it made me incredibly anxious and bringing up bad memories- i just had to cut it off and wait for recap.
Re Doctor: It was definitely a disappointing cross, but not a complete failure. The medical forms being left blank during the test definitely came across as suspect to me. It felt very much like "oh, you decided this woman has PTSD based on what she said and then you did the CAP5 test as a formality." That combined with the Dr's misandrist tone from the previous day destroyed her credibility in my eyes.
Re Amber: Her testimony was uncomfortable. I hate to call her a liar because, if she's telling the truth, then she experienced extreme levels of abuse. At the same time, she comes across as telling a story to serve her purposes instead of as telling what happened. For example, I agreed with your comments: it's very weird that she tried to paint Johnny as a creepy old man BEFORE she started dating him. I cannot speak for all woman, but I would certainly never date a man who I considered to be a creep and I can say with some confidence that the same is true for my close female friends. It's especially jarring because a few minutes later she talked about their instant chemistry during that time. So which was it? Was he a creep or were you into it? Are you portraying a welcome flirtation as creepy in retrospect just so that we all feel sympathy for you? Because that's what it feels like.
Then it she went into the alleged abuse and she talks about horrific acts, but her only evidence is a photo of a small bruise on her arm? If you're photographing your damages, then why only photograph that? Was that really a bruise from abuse or did you just bump into something? Given all of Johnny's evidence to show how Amber lies, I just didn't buy a word she was saying. At this point, I'm not going to watch any more of her testimony. I'll listen to what comes after to see if she has any proof for what she's saying. If she doesn't, then I can't help but question everything she says and, as you said, she just feels evil.
I'm also raising my eyebrow at the robe. Why would you go into a man's living space, wearing a robe, with a bottle of wine if you didn't want sex? I'm sorry but that's just not how a woman who just wants to be friends acts, (especially when the man in question is a relative stranger). I would be going in FULLY clothed. She went in with the intention of seducing Johnny. To use his fame, his connections & his money.
I found AH’s testimony of the abuse to be way too “cinematic”. Literally like she was reading from a script and included camera directions like “after scene of AH holding her cheek looking bewildered, pan to shot of carpet looking dirty, then widen out to shot of AH in on floor in curled position with JD on couch grinning like the devil”.
You’re a machine, lady. Thank you for this conversation, finding unbiased and balanced opinions on the Internet is a rarity. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Agreed. Alyte is a dynamo.
As she spoke I kept hearing the recordings of her not letting him get away, her talking about hitting him like it was no big deal and so forth. I don’t believe she feared him for a second. They were both toxic but she just made things even more toxic and volatile. I bet she has screwed around on every person she’s ever been in a relationship with. If amber has PTSD she gave it to herself!! Boy do I wish I was on that jury.
Yet another great recap, Alyte! For the first time in this trial, I felt like what I was seeing/hearing was getting to my own symptoms. And it wasn’t the tapes or pics of Vesuvius. It was Amber. Her tone/affect reminded me so much of my narcissistic mom who ALWAYS had to be the victim, that I bailed on her testimony. It was like watching the Little Mermaid and thinking ‘how is Prince Eric falling for this fake chick? Can’t he see she’s actually the monster?’
Thanks for sharing, so interesting!
As a woman that has also had to deal with creeps, I 100% agree with you. I would NEVER date that person. It’s just not logical to date someone that makes you uncomfortable…
Obviously there are so, so many things about what she is saying that don't add up. But one thing that was easy to tell was that Dr. Hughes said that Johnny had had denied a prenup saying "the only way you're getting out of this relationship is death" and that's supposedly why she got him the knife. When Amber told the story she said nothing about the prenup or even discussing marriage at that point. All she said was "it was something Johnny tended to say" or something like that.
I'm a victim of abuse myself - although it was my mother, not a partner. I know first-hand how they change stories constantly. I think I can speak for most victims when I say that WE KNOW who is telling the truth in this case. Because we recognise the behaviour of both the abuser and the victim.
Absolutely. It couldn’t be clearer.
I am a survivor and I would never be able to sit there and act like she did while telling her story! I remember too much and it’s been 16 years! And I sure as hell would never have given my ex a knife of gun! He’d have used it!
I believe JD’s team were looking at time left in the trial and the fact that it may not be a completely good look to tear down a professional who had high qualifications. Also, it may not be a good look to tear her down since she clearly represents the system as she coaches judges and lawyers
I agree, they didn’t hammer Dr. Hughes as much as I’d like, she was so biased, even when she was generally describing behaviour to explain concepts, she constantly used female victims and male aggressors. Her explanation about just referring to ‘this case’ was weak. As far as Amber’s testimony, I’ve never seen someone ‘dry’ cry as much as she did. And it’s weird. As someone who was a victim of intimate partner violence and SA myself, talking about it was hard. Amber made faces and said she was mortified about talking about it, but made weird, uncomfortable eye contact with the jury the whole time. And I understand different people will react differently, but her words, and claims of how it made her feel, we’re not matched by her behaviour. It felt forced, and like this was all an act to me. Not once does she look down, and her stories were all over the place, with her stammering and going back to add details. That’s not generally how a truthful tale is told. Where Johnny said the bottle whizzed past his head and crashed, Amber said a glass went past her and crashed on the wall. Body language experts have pointed out truth tellers just describe what occurred that they personally experienced or saw. So unless she has eyes in the back of her head to have seen the glass crash on the wall, the experts would see as deceptive to add that it hit the wall. She didn’t see it hit the wall, that’s not how memory works. It’s adding details instead of simply telling the events as they occur. You’re replaying in your mind what played out, and truth tellers don’t add details that they don’t remember. Therefore, they feel his story rings true and would see her as embellishing to convince a listener of a terrible ‘fact’.
In addition, when people experience grief or intense sadness, their nose runs. It’s involuntary. She’s been fine.
And I think it’s also telling that she wants to be the hero of her story, the girl who was love bombed, and pushed into this, and swept off her feet, while taking no responsibility for the times that she chose to do drugs or chase him around the house. I noticed that she never initiated any of the issues according to her, whereas Johnny got up there and said, yah, I did stupid shit, I took drugs, I made bad choices. Not once did Amber make any bad choices in her version of events except for loving this man and thinking he could change. Like, come on….we heard her admit to stuff on tape, we saw and heard her taunting him repeatedly in tapes and videos, but her story is that she made no mistakes. But thus far, she’s just guilty of loving too much. Truth tellers aren’t trying to be the hero, they are simply laying it out. She’s minimizing her roles in every event. And from the sounds of it, she was cheating on Johnny. I mean, the night after his mom had died and they break up, this guy she claims to barely know, James Franco, just happens to come and spend the night. Come on. Earlier she was calling her husband of one month, ‘old and washed up’…..after rushing the wedding and avoiding the prenup. Come on. She’s looks to me to be a gold digging black widow who has never learned any personal responsibility, and has her sister under her thumb. When she starts admitting to having any character flaws, or her drug use or her aggression or anything, then I’ll believe her.
Also for all the times they travelled and she talks about how he was the aggressor but yet it was his team that booked an extra room so he could escape. Like, none of this rings true to me.
Great job. Your hardwork doesn't go unnoticed
You, by far, ( in my opinion) have the best recaps. Concise, without the “fat”, and cats and dogs!
Thank you for such a great analysis!
Thanks for another update
Thank you Alyte for hosting such a great watch party. I love your style and I am really enjoying everything I learn from you and the panel. Your input and the input of the panelists is super interesting, and I can't imagine watching without it! Thanks for all the work you do and #discobloodbath!!
Discovering your channel has been the highlight of my month! Haha thank you for all of your hard work. Super easy to follow as a non lawyer or law student
Thanks for these updates!
Great panel coverage!
Once again, thank you for taking the time to do this recap. It's much appreciated. I have both a personal and professional interest in this case and she makes my blood boil. Evil people do indeed exist and this is a perfect example of that. I'm so disappointed in JD's team for letting Dr Hughes off the hook so I really hope they nail AH's feet to the floor, metaphorically speaking. The importance of this case goes far beyond defamation - it will be important for men's rights but also for the rights of victims of DV.
What Hoeg said really resonated with me- my gut tells me she's not being truthful (along with the evidence presented by Johnny's side), but if she's lying, I have to see her as a monster, and then I would have to come to terms with the fact that someone could be so cruel. It's very confusing. It's almost scary to admit what my intuition (and logic) is telling me.
There are evil and cruel people in this world.. after years of watching true crimes programmes, that's something I've come to terms with a long time ago... There are different personalities and not all fit into the empath scope unfortunately
I feel same. And he’s right. It’s so horrifying.
Thank you!!! Loved the kitty cameo!!
I live for these recaps. Thanks
Thank you so much for your hard work ! I don't know how you managed to do the recap everyday and in time for the next day in court. I watch you everyday :D when I have the time it's the trial, or else it's the recap ;)
as much as i enjoy and appreciate these recap contents, Alyte (and the editors) make sure you get enough rest!!! theres still so many more days of trial to cover!
Great recap thank you!
I look forward to the trial recaps you present. Thanks for taking the time to make them each day!
Amber used Movie quotes in her Monologue describing Johnny you can NOT make this Stuff up! She used Movies such as The Talented Mr Ripley and literally said verbatim with what is in the Movie...Other movies include White Chicks (About the Dogs) Maid the Netflix Series which was a book first about the Carpet and dirty floor....The Crucible with Winona Ryder about Chopping off the Finger.....Even a quote from a movie with Julia Roberts about a lot of tea...A LOT of tea.....A LOT OF TEA this is Pathetic!
You need to make a video about this where you play the scene and her statement right next to each other. It would be hilarious
@@EvansSecret this is such a great idea!
MIKDRED OIERCE - I would rather cut off my hand! So great you pointed out! What was from RIPLEY. Please
Sorry MILDRED PIERCE
to be fair thats such a short part of text that i can easily see it as a cooncidence. the talented mr ripley thats a diff story… that must have been a deliberate and rehearsed choice. :-/
You done did it. Damn, girl. Good thing you'll get a break after today :)
great recap!! great BOOMCAT! great video!
Bravo! Another fabulous recap!
I was so stressed out I didn't watch the cross, initially, but today I did and..I liked it, actually. Totally different approach than Elaine.
Also, you often tell us the best strategy is point out just 2+2 and then let the jurors get to the conclusion of 4.
It seemed, to me, that Dr Hughes has been lied to and she found out right there (her face was red).
The fur babies are such an added bonus! Thank you for all the hard work giving us all this content. I would like to know how long Amber attended Al-Anon because had she really worked the program, she would learn you don’t “talk” to someone who is drunk or high. Amber reminds me of a friend’s daughter who has BPD. Amazingly similar.
Hopefully on cross of Heard we will find out. If Johnny's lawyers ask that Q, which they should.
Great summary and analysis, especially the last few minutes. Thank you!
Make sure to take some good rest next week! You’ve been working really hard, and we appreciate that you managed to get this up before today’s stream despite your workload. Thanks for all you and the Lawtubers do!
We have a gender biased unethical psychologist who never heard of the phrase "two sides to every story" claiming that she "assessed" a relationship between two partners from different gender... Is this a joke ?
Dr Curry was much more credible. She didn’t put out any bias. She just stated the the results of the tests, not who she thought beat who. Dr Hughes infuriated me right from the get go, especially regarding how men are so much stronger than women so no matter what the woman does she can’t do any damage. That folks is a complete fallacy. Women can do a lot of damage, physically, mentally, and as in this case, using false allegations to destroy a man. I am speaking here as a female.
@@LPS-mh8kx just the fact that a woman can hit you, call you names and degrade you while you can't even do anything about it, does enough damage to make you wanna end your life, let alone ruining your reputation and painting you as the abuser when she is and you're not, especially when the world tend to believe her because she's a woman, you start losing jobs, getting hate, it's crazy... I sympathize a lot with Johnny this isn't a joke at all. It ends lives, not just careers. i really hope he wins. I'm glad there are several women like you, who looked further beyond the gender barrier and stereotypes and were able to see the amount of injustice this man is experiencing.
Saw it. And what struck me the most is that she was not testifying about what happened to her in terms of DV; her whole testimony was designed to paint JD as this creepy rich old man taking advantage of a poor innocent girl and to embarrass him as much as possible. When you are being smacked around by a drunk and/or high abuser you focus on the HITS you are getting, not that you had to clean him up after he passed out. After your attacker passes out you feel a sense of relief that it's finally over. The fact that you or someone else had to "clean him up" does not matter to you and the only time it would be worth mentioning is in terms of temporary safety you feel that at that moment he can't hurt you. I felt no sympathy for her at all, the only feeling her "testimony" evoked in my was anger.
Your eloquence is impressive!
I love hearing your summaries and takes on the trail each day and I just had to say that I love seeing your fur babies in the videos.
We need someone close to Amber to testify she lied. Second scenario is that JD's team find inconsistencies in Amber's testimony, which is not impossible, but very very difficult to execute.
People already have but it won’t matter the woke media will eat it up .
I wish JD's team could use Josh Drew's (Raquel Rocky Pennington's boyfriend) deposition. He confessed to alot
Luckily for Johnny's team, Amber has given multiple conflicting accounts of almost every incident
@@harrypottersnumbrfan Agree, the truth never changes, and if U suffered DV it is etched in your brain, sadly.
She has already given a few points of interest, the questions are
A) whether or not they capitalize on them
B) whether or not the judge and heards team will allow it
C) how much weight the jury puts on the evidence
As someone who has followed this for years now. I personally have a difficult time watching Amber testify. It makes me sick realizing everything she's saying is true, except Johnny is the victim in all her stories. So all she did was switch the names when telling the story.
Me too. If we can't watch that woman testify, imagine how much harder it is for JD, and why his head is down throughout her testimony.
@@Peaea I know, and please don't misunderstand. I don't believe Johnny is a Saint or anything remotely close to it. I also can't stand that Amber literally used her body and mind to manipulate and abuse him for several years. Then had the gall to claim he did to boost her career even farther, sickening!
People have pointed out that they think she is copying how he dressed during the trial, copied the pony tail. they show a scene of her supposedly seeing him put on his glasses then she puts hers on. I noticed a few times in her testimony where she copied some of the words or phrases that he had used in his testimony but like she had said them. Kind of interesting.
You did it!! I watched all day between your channel and another favorite-but I love hearing your recaps too! Thank you for all your hard work! You must be exhausted!
Love your commentary, just with you choose who you platform better
Triggering is right! I'm depending on you guys to fill in the blanks because I couldn't make it through the past couple of days of the trial. Also, thank you for what you said about the cross examination. The onslaught of negativity in the comments section was overwhelming and stressful. I'm well aware that JD might lose, but I'm just trying to stay positive till we get to the end.
Love your pets ❤
I'm very sensitive to people's energy, I had to stop watching her testimony after a while because, not only I felt she was being very fake (doesn't mean that everything is), as her energy made me very nervous and disturbed. I hope she gains consciousness and takes responsability for her actions.
Wonderful channel, thank you for your excellent work!
Love from Portugal
You have been doing incredible. I popped into the stream at just after the 12 hour mark and you were still trying to answer as many super chats as you can. You’re incredible!
I really appreciate your daily recaps on this trial. It is really educational, and I appreciate that you keep it non-biased. Your doggy in the background is life!!
I am in shock that Ms Heard's "testimony" consists of extracts from movie scripts - not just one, but many! how in all conscience can she pass off pieces of fiction as her own words? so unethical. Is it even legal for a witness to do this? I thought witnesses were supposed to answer in their own words. I am learning more about personality disorders from this trial than i ever expected to.
Thank heavens the trial is televised, so conversations can begin around the many important issues that have bubbled to the surface from this trial.
This has been an ever evolving script for her. She just keeps trying to perfect it by adding so many additional shocking new events that she’s just certain it’s going to make her believable. However, that my friends is how you catch a liver.
This reminds me of my case I had with my ex. She has used false allegations so many times. I am terrified to take it to court because 90% of the time they side with the female. I had to fight tooth and nail and spend 20K to fight them. She still has yet to pay a price for the proven false allegations. That is how our court system works...
Oh gosh…your kitty taking over the center screen was so adorable. 🥰 Fantastic analysis and love your livestreams! Have been watching them from beginning to end! Hope you get some much deserved rest during the break!
I did watch everything, most of the things i did not understood from day 13-14 . Thank you for explaining everything in such a simple way. Thanks :)
This cat knows how to get watch time! lol
Love the content. Needed to watch this cause I honestly couldn't stomach her testimony.
When I was only listening to the podcast, I knew she had a cat :) They love to get between us and whatever we're doing, especially if a desk and computer are involved.
i don't understand everyone flaming the lawyers. Everyone has their own way, they are more or less as effective as other ways, so stop calling everyone incompetent. No matter if you don't like the way they do things or not, don't flame them.
Great coverage Ali. ❤
Thank you so much for these videos, I really appreciate your analysis. I've been watching a lot of the trial and you sum things up and make everything so clear.
SO… My daughter is a borderline personality disorder. I don’t think it will take any of you long to listen to a borderline to see how bizarre their behavior is. I remember one time at my daughters work, a new guy had just started working there. Before the day was over he asked her, “ Are you bipolar “?? He knew something was off, just like listening to Amber. Just let her keep talking lol
Thanks for all your Hard Work! I see that your cat is also interested in the Amber Heard Testimony 😆😆😆
That cat and dog totally wanting the spotlight. Good job navigating that! They were like, No, no, no...give me attention, not those crazy humans. 😄
I love your analysis on this and make sure I catch your episodes! I wish I knew what the jury was thinking. It’s not Netflix, so I can’t fast forward to the end….but I so want to. Your cat is so sweet!
As a survivor of child sex trafficking, DV and SA - I'm horrified and angry at this woman. I suppose that's why I'm following the case - and have been since the beginning of Covid. So many taped recording that do not line up with her accusations. Then to jump on the #MeToo movement with such self righteous stance - giving speeches, etc. It literally makes me sick.
So I came into the trial with my mind made up. Her testimony (performance) on the 1st day and today was laughable, if it wasn't so cruel. It's pathetic, the way she tries to "act" - she's not good a it; can't even produce one single solitary TEAR. I feels like she researched REAL victims and is trying to "act" the way a true survivor might. She is not pulling it off at all. I cry very easily - and can empathize with other victims/survivors - and yet I felt nothing but anger and contempt for this woman as she mimed being traumatized. It's not just Johnny who will (is) suffer - it's the rest of us that have lived this horror: Who will believe us now?
Stevie J Raw yesterday read an email from a man that had been falsely accused by his ex and her family. He spent 8 years in prison and suffered unspeakable abuse while there. His ex finally admitted that she had made the whole thing up (this very rarely happens) and he was released. He lost everything. I broke down and cried for 30 minutes after that and just the retelling of this has brought me to tears. I can’t even with Amber.
@@LPS-mh8kx that's so fucked up!! 😭 💞🤬
I think the “soft” cross was definitely strategic...or well I really hope it was 😅
I’m not so hopeful about that……
I look forward to hearing your recaps. Thanks. But, your dog is the Boss!