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To celebrate the world cup final, today we explore the chaotic world of football hooligans. A fascinating sub culture that taps into many social, political and primal factors.
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the commentary on men and purpose and wether intentional or not how it relates to today was spot on good work kid
Some you got out of order. Some completely wrong. Some is just bull crap.
Not one film released gets it right. Danny Dyer or not.
My last away match 15/04/1989 As a Garibaldi Red.
Your video trivializes decades of social upheaval.
And it was a shinty match which is why they were hitting each other with sticks. Alot of Shinty clubs did start playing and then turn into football clubs. But later
Only the lefty scum hate football
the foot ball club of edinburgh oldes tfootball club
You got a few bits wrong here, thatcher didn’t stop football hooliganism, it was the rave scene. Young fans would stay out raving on the Friday night into Saturday morning and then not bother with the football. Good video though👍
I've heard it said that in Britain, football is a gentleman's game played by thugs and rugby is thug's game played by gentlemen. Based on everything I've witnessed, this seems to be more or less accurate.
It’s kind of true but English (not Scottish or Welsh) rugby players tend to be big, posh guys from privileged backgrounds who can be even worse. Usually wankers who think they’re better than working-class boys.
@_sanguine.rose_ I'm Australian so naturally I love a good rugby fight 😅
Yup soccer is pretty serious
I was thinking the exact same thing while watching. This saying came to mind.
You ever seen a university rugby team night out? Animals.
The rave subculture and ecstasy were also a massive contributor to the decline in violence from the early to mid 90's. This has been very well documented.
Has it??
@@admiralbenbow5083 why would somebody fight if they were poping x and just dancing
I think they talk about that in a book from years ago called ' last night a dj saved my life ' im sure thats what it's called .
The hooligans sold the pills
It contributed a little, but it's effect is massively overplayed. The biggest contributer to the then decline in football violence was that people had started to get *long* prison sentences, the huge police crackdown under Thatcher in the late 80's and lifetime stadium bans. A lot of the top boys ended up running doors and selling pills, not taking them. Also the creation of the Premier League, when teams became 'brands'. The clubs were eager to clamp down to sell the PL to a larger audience....the violence was always there though, but in the lower leagues.
Here in Brazil a crime syndicate called PCC actually banned fights between hooligans in São Paulo after a gruesome fight last month. If they fight, they will be killed. It's quite common to have someone dead by the end of a game here.
I mean that sounds kind of cool, because fuck this fighting shit it's meant to be just about the sport. So at least they work A LOT better than some lousy one security guy alone, who cannot do anything if the hooligans wanna keep fighting and causing other watchers to not watch the game at all knowing how things may end up. So idk, i mean i know PCC and the gangs in Brazil are really fucking serious but i think for once if they enforce that stuff it might be just a good thing.
@@TSKNBgaming sounds cool? Living in a Narcostate is not cool
I heard about that. Wounds crazy. Worst thing I have seen at an American football game was fans of the visiting team kept standing up to block the folks behind them who were cheering for the home team. "Sit the F down" was about as aggressive as it got. They kept standing up every time a play happened and more swearing. That was about it.
There's this Dutch/British neo-folk band called H.E.R.R. that has a song called Hopes Die In Winter which is about hooliganism.
I saw them perform it live sometime in the 2000's and their singer Troy Southgate (yes that Troy Southgate) was standing there on stage with his football scarf and fierce eyes almost like making a political proclamation about how men could be men during the weekend after a long week of tedious labour.
It was one of the most intimidating things I'd ever seen during a live performance.
Crystal Palace supporter?
@@nexionaut I don't know.. I don't follow football myself.
In Brazil we have the same problem, they are called “organized cheer team” or something like this. They show up with a lot of props at the stadium (even though many were prohibited for being used as makeshift weapons) and its quite beautiful to witness their passion for their team. The violence has been decreasing and the funny thing is that a while ago truck drivers decided to block roads and only these hooligans were able to break the blockage because they desperately wanted to watch a match kkk even the federals didnt dare to break the blockage😅
@Omar Kharnivall, sounds mental but with youth, strength and especially we don't give a fk what happens to us attitude, doesn't surprise me. Have fond memories of my teenage yrs singing, drinking & rarely seeing a whole game, could or would I do it now? no fkn way! it's a coming of age thing, or was for many of us. Respect from UK!
Obrigado
Lol. Football hooligans all around the world!
Torcidas?
@@TheBobRock57 almost right! torcidas organizadas
Same shit in Germany. A few years ago the team of my hometown Mannheim had a final match in the on going season which decided whether they get up into 3. league or not. The hooligans were rioting so much the referee stopped the match which automaticly made the other team win... SV Waldhof Mannheim were trying to get out of League Nr. 4. for like a decade. So sad for the players to have "fans" like that when you only want to do the sport you got raised with and you love.
I really liked how you showed why hooligans do what they do and that its not just a hobby.
But its the right thing to do. The clubs are responsible for their fans. Whats missing. The UeFa is doing this. The FiFa should go this way to.
@@eve-llblyat2576 Death and destruction aint worth fandom
I can confirm that working years in security ... judges in germany are way too soft ! Often British hools visited germany to as they called" having fun " often after arrested by us they wouldn even see trial and just send back..outrages !
Germans are worse than English these days. After the nations league match vs England at Wembley, over 100 masked Germans stormed a pub in London attacking everybody with Machetes including women and children.
I agree it’s not fair and I was around hooligans when I went to games and I have left a comment if you want to read it
Absolutely brilliant video, randomly suggested to me. And not disappointed at all.. extremely informative and accurate, I’m shocked how you managed this in such a short video!You’ve earned yourself a sub my guy!!
Absolutely brilliant video mate. Adding to my Sports Studies class playlist 🙌
hooliganism is not about football lets be real. its about taking out all of your frustrations (be it the government, family life, health issues etc.) They just pretend to care about football
it is not about taking out frustration - hooliganism is about stupid morons raised in violent environment - their only way how to express themself is violence.
Reminds me of the summer 2020 riots in the US. People just using any excuse to go crazy, burn stuff down, loot, and hurt other people. They'll find any reason.
Honestly that’s how I think it works with identity politics too. Like hating the other side is a scapegoat people use to not admit to themselves what’s really bothering them. Most of the time. In the beginning anyway before violence happens and then it’s different.
it is partially the football. fans are always seeing their star players try to score points and fail, and that makes them frustrated and violent, compared to sports like basketball or US football, where points are plentiful and star players are seen succeeding in every game.
It's about Football. The issue is that British youth culture revolves around drinking, fighting and sports. Even if you have social issues or not, ppl still engaged in hooliganism. That's why racism became an issue recently.
Thanks for these videos. I’ve always been curious about European subcultures and I feel like I’m sat with a friend from across the pond finally telling me the stories.
That's So gay
This is not a European subculture it happens all over the world...
@@PurplePerinaise nall just y'all crazy azz
@@umakinmefeelgay956 lol troll the world or get educated 👌
@@umakinmefeelgay956 I feel like i just had an aneurism reading that.
So greatly succinct - an amazing story teller. Great job Jimmy! I learned so much
Really well done video buddy - nicely put together, well narrated, and not glorifying it. Top job.
Hooliganism dates back to the time of the Romans, where Chariot racing fans would behave similarly. It's kind of a bizarre thing when you compare British Football hooligans to Chariot racing fans because it's so similar. The chariot racing fans had their owns firms, one called the Greens and the other the Blues. It would be an interesting study on why such behavior manifests in societies and if it's tied to any type of decline or period of decadence.
It’s just Tribalism that’s all, it’s not that complicated. The tribalist instinct that is encouraged by hooliganism explains why many of these hooligans tend to be far right fascists/racists.
in the UK the rapid increase in 'hooliganism' in the 80s was a direct consequence of the government's economic policy...'shut down industry because that will shut down the union movement'.
many millions of 'working class ' men had their jobs, homes, families, dignity etc deliberately eradicated, simply because the prime minister despised collective bargaining and the associated right for folks to withdraw their labour if the situation called for it.
a vicious, despicable, petulant and dim witted policy from a political party that has precisely the same depraved mentality today as it had back then.
@NunofyourBusiness true but still no excuse for the racism so prevalent among these hooligans. You ever seen the "This is England" film? It's a good depiction of how nasty these men can be.
If England's 1980s would have been the paradise of the working class, "Hooligans" would be a non-existent word.
Actually originally the "Demes" were four: Blues (Vénetoi) and Greens (Prásinoi), the Whites (Leukoí) and Reds (Roúsioi). The latter two were absorbed into the Blues and Greens later.
As a young man, in late 80s early 90s Edinburgh, I was involved for a while in this culture. There was definitely a feeling of frustration in the housing scheme I lived in. It felt like there were few opportunities, the closing of all the youth clubs also contributed to the violence. The youth club Closest to me was often used as a peace broker between the rival housing schemes when things were getting out of hand. It was the local gangs fighting through the week, then we'd all go up town at the weekend, join up with others who supported the same team as you & have at it with rivals. Looking back on it, it was crazy. I was not in deep, thankfully.
Do you, per chance, remember when clubs like Pure started in early 90s Edinburgh?
Football violence in dim people, overcome by MDMA. A wondrous thing to see and feel.
@@anarchords1905 I sure do. Pure was tremendous! I remember going down to the Venue, Calton studios, the vaults etc. I do think the emergence of MDMA & the club/rave scene helped quell the violence back then.
The poor kids cannot afford to take part .
It's the grown youths from two parent homes doing this mess .They have jobs , can afford the best sportswear , season tickets and travel .Have enough for food and alcohol . They were getting away with it for years.
@@sayeedharem4673 "The poor kids cannot afford to take part" ...NOW.
but they could then. (see also: dramatic hike in ticket prices post 1986)
on match days, no one who didn't want to paid train/tube fares back then and it cost 1 or 2 pounds to watch top flight football live.
it wasn't only affordable it was a life saver.
For many it was the only place that held any sense of meaning/purpose./community/belonging.
Due to the pitiful level of compensation paid to those millions of folks whose livelihoods she so dismissively sacrificed on the altar of her deranged obsession with destroying the union movement, thatcher ensured that the UK under a tory government was (and remains) a very unhealthy place to be reliant on anything less than the average income, let alone the subsistence income paid under the state's rather perversely labelled 'benefits' system.
tl;dr:
going to the football was a few hours of critical respite from the relentless, deliberately soul crushing reality of the time.
Hibs or Hearts?
Really well done mate. Excellent documentry
That was a fantastic video. Thank you.
When I was younger my parents banned me from wearing my home teams football kit, especially at weekends when there might have been a match on to protect me from getting attacked by the oppositions supporters. One of my friends was attacked when he was 7 and that'd where it all started. The fact that children had to be banned from wearing their team kit to protect them from grown men because they support another football team. This started when I was 6 and still carries on. This is still horrible. This should never have to happend. I understand why lots of football clubs outside of the UK said "Don't be like the English" this is horrible.
Grown men attacking children?
Man, that is scummy.
Kids being attacked , words can’t describe how bad and ridiculous it is. That’s beyond any of these”hooligans mentality“ wanting to get into fight/scrap, but more psychopath mentality to attack 6-7 year old kids!
Knowing a couple guys, let me say this carefully; “who said if they were involved with any firms / ultras”, they’ve told me there is plenty of rules that everyone abides by. Basically only fighting with another clubs firm/ultras at a prearranged time & place away from the stadium grounds. Never attack citizens, tourists, families! All of them would be disgusted if anyone attacked a woman or a child. It would actually become one thing that could Unite 2 groups about to go at it and go after anyone who did such a horrible thing.
Happened in Germany too. Some HSV Hooligans from Hamburg beat a Kid to Death, because he was wearing Werder Bremen Kit.
@@chrisfrank2664 think this guy is telling pork pies, I've been going to football for over 40 years, been involved in fighting, not proud of it now, but never ever have I seen a 6 or 7 year child being attacked, if that happened the person doing it would of been attacked trust me
Seven year old attacked? Seems a bit of bullshit to me.
From Rollerblading to firms. This channel does it all 😎
But see I love non-team, non-ball sports. Once there's a ball and a team something about it makes me lose faith in humanity and then I wanna spit.
@@ComicusFreemanius Even cricket?
@@captainkenzie6873 Nah cricket, polo, baseball and rugby are all cool somehow.
Just found your channel. It’s brilliant, keep up the good work!
Fantastic video mate, well done.
Funny how the fans go out and hurt people over a sport where the players just pretend to get hurt lol
In the 80s players didn't act like they do now however
Fighting in the stands at Millwall was interrupted today when football broke out on the pitch.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂good one🤘
That was a really good look at some of the history behind it I wanted to understand. Well presented and with no bias or partisanship shown when looking at the more political elements (something we see far too much of these days)
I'll be sure to have a look at some more of your videos and if they're as detailed and as well put as this one, ill likely be subscribing.
10:28 - "It turned into a riot that destroyed Luton".
So they weren't all bad then.
Bill Buford’s “Among the Thugs”, is a fascinating read. An outsiders view of English football hooliganism during the 80’s when it was at its height. The dynamics of the crowd & mob mentality are discussed as well as many tangential issues as to why, particularly this was happening in England.
for a second i thought you said Bill Bruford
@dvened me too 😂
@@mattchurchill : Not the drummer! I once had a very confused conversation (with a drummer in a band I was playing) about this very topic.
@@robnewton3368it would be so sick though, if Bill Bruford was also a cultural anthropologist or whatnot
@@ResistanceQuest he did publish a book if that counts
Great content. Informative, entertaining and concise. Glad I found this channel.
Fantastic upload thankyou ❤🌹❤🌹🌹🌹
The Dutch disease: inflation due to complex economic issues.
The English disease: people bashing each others skulls in because the other was wearing the wrong shirt of a guy kicking a ball.
Simple as.
Feynoord and ajax are a lot worse than this nowadays 😂😂
Football is a culture especially the football casuals all about clothes and football. About wearing something different that nobody else has very similar to the original mods .so it's much more than that
Dutch disease is now applied to bring the hooliganscene back.
Without it political cabal is ruining the country.
@@rogercooper1307 a culture for subhumans
Another interesting topic, covered extremely well! Great work as always Jimmy!
Great video mate
Ive never been a hooligan, but I can attest that there’s something entirely unique about the bonds formed between men in battle. Knowing that the man to either side of you has the same pure love for you that you have for them and that they value your existence just as much, if not more than their own, creates a level of altruism rarely witnessed outside of war. I imagine that plays at least some part in this culture…
It's not supposed to be a battle tho.
I wholeheartedly agree. I wasn’t advocating for their behavior, merely pointing out a reason for how people could find themselves participating in something they normally wouldn’t.
Doing it over a sport as soft as football though 😂
It's just hooliganism. It's not exactly a battle or war lmao there's no justice or righteousness here. It's spectating a friggin sport event lmao
Yeah, except this narrative of brotherly love just functions as a facade, and is largely an excuse for inbreds to wallow in a perverse enjoyment of engaging in violence with other inbreds.
I don’t understand why you don’t have more subs! These videos are such high quality, keep up the good work!
Many of his vids are about people that do bad or negative things. CZcams algorithm prefers upbeat,
Positive content so his videos aren’t showing up in peoples’ recommendations and that can be the difference between 300k and 3million. He will get bigger… but it will take longer.
These are like 30for30 documentaries that are free on CZcams. Thanks Jimmy!
excellent video well worth the watch
Interesting, balanced and well researched. Great video, pal.
This is very well explained. I studied football hooliganism in my third year sports law module & i always found this subculture so interesting. New subbie :) keep up the great work!
It’s not interesting in the slightest
Very true Marie. It certainly is fascinating.
@@barry3012tribal warfare
It is interesting, because it’s not just about the violence although that’s a significant part of it. A motivated, passionate crowd - a small army if you will - can act as an effective vehicle of subversion against a repressive government. Football matches may be the only place people can gather together make their voices heard and protest - safety in numbers so to speak.
@@robnewton3368 just like in Ukraine in 2014 in the revolution of dignity. Most of what was on the frontline were organised football firms with connections across the country and that have dealt with police tactics, brutality and organised violence before. And when Russia invaded in 2022 most of the football firms were already organised and were provided with weapons
This channel just appeared in my recommendations. Really good video. I’ve just looked through your videos and some great subjects. Subbed!
Well done Jimmy. Succinct. Informative. Interesting. Wishing you well. T
The editing on this video is amazing
Love the videos on subcultures, nice to see Jimmy branching out.
Another great video from the legend Jimmy the 🐐
I wish football hooligans would carry the same energy against oppressive governments.
They're too afraid
In some cases they do.
🤣🤣@@apilolomi4354
Any examples of oppressive government?
I wish people who said this same thing over and over actually just did it themselves?
Well done video!
How you make quality videos so quickly I have no clue but it is so incredible.
Buy lying
You deserve way more views and subscribers. Real quality content mate
great video! would love to see a whole video about the 'organised'/legit fights you mentioned near the end
The Russian ones? There are plenty of those videos on CZcams.
@@herbert9241 I meant more specifcally would like to see a JimmyTheGiant video about it
@@tebla2074 - Trust your own faculties, mate - you don't need Jimmy to explain it to you.
@@herbert9241 of course not, but it would be entertaining
Saw you on Destiny’s stream last night. Been watching some of your vids and they’re really good. Looking forward to your vid on him.
That's such a great summary in just 16 minutes. Well done.
Really interesting video and well researched, I’m doing my dissertation on football hooliganism and the alcohol ban and covering similar areas👍🏻
Great video as always. Football violence declined - in large part - to the massive increase in the use of Ecstasy - but you never hear that in the media :)
Great video m8.
Love your videos 💜
A lot calmed down early acid house/raves 89-92 Many out raving taking ecstasy at weekends!
Hoodie, yes absolutely that and Italia 90 making it fashionable for middle class people too.
Great video
Finally! Months after the stream researching this the video is here!
In Croatia it was, and still is, very much the same. Hooligans basically go to games to get pissed and get into a scuffle. Once when my mate and I went to a home game of our club Hajduk Split, we met up with some hooligans who we were good friends with. There were 3 of them and one just sat in his seat and slept through the whole game because he was so drunk and burnt out on testosterone and violence. After a while, it stopped being about football and became this mini-civil war between hooligan factions. They'd come to a rival town, sit down for a drink in some bar and the leader of the away hooligans would call the leader of the home hooligans to tell them the location. The best part is that no game would be played on that day, it'd just be a kind of hooligan field trip. A field trip which would leave 3 bars trashed. That being said, those same factions are first responders when it comes to organizing a civil response against fires, earthquakes, collecting funds for someone's life-changing operation and so on. In that regard, they're more advanced than our own government. So, yeah, it's a tightrope walk.
You forgot that so called "hooligans" where the first in line to go in war for independence , while lot of nowadays politicians didn't even been in army but outside Croatia.
ZDS
Lol 😂 your trying to tell us who invented this sht 🍺🤘
Sounds like these people are lacking some serious models and leadership in their lives. Sounds like they want to be put to good use as civil servants but instead default to beating each other up.
Reminds me of retired Roman soldiers who had nothing left to live for and started becoming thugs.
Remove a man from his life's purpose, and he lashes out
@@dvened very well said freind and so true great quote .
Šuti da ne bi dobio motikom po glavi
great vid bud. as an american, Green Street Hooligans was one of my favorite movies growing up. I had no idea it was to that extent though!
What a great video 👍
Great video! Can you do a video on the skinhead subculture next? Covering it's roots in 2Tone/Ska?
yes I second that.
Just a suggestion -- this was like 95 history and maybe 5 percent analysis at the end. Maybe a 70 - 30 split between the two might make the analysis less of an afterthought
RIP Terry Hall💕
@@olliestudio45 Thanks for the feedback, I always try and balance as I'm no expert on these topics so I don't want to weight my opinion as more important than the story. However if people enjoy hearing my perspective I will try work it in a bit more.
@@JimmyTheGiant Referencing 'psychologists and sociologists' (as you do in the vid) is a great way to give your perspective while still basing everything on 'recognised expert opinions'.
Anyway your content is great and very shareable. Big up.
I second this. I’ve never seen a decent video on trads.
Awesome video
Love these videos man! Really well produced
very insightful
I did an eye opening thesis on football hooliganism for a sociology course a few years back and In my humble opinion this is an excellent synopsis with good research an excellent narration to boot 👍
Could you link your thesis? Im interested in reading it
Thank you for getting history correct. Without fanfare or BS. You've done a wonderful job with this video.
Great vid, loved the final description of the power of male protective energy.
Well, well. Brilliant. Love it. Thx
Only been scared 1 time at football. We (Feyenoord) had smashed a pub from NAC Breda. (I wasn't there). Only a short while later they played us at home. So we had a group of 150 waiting in a pub and I was with 30 lads close to the stadium. We expected revenge, so we were ready. After a while a huge group came from a few hundred yards away chanting NAC hooligans. We were vastly outnumbered but we stood our ground, just to find out, while the group was really close, it was our own group(the 150) singing their songs as a joke. Never been more scared, cause if it was them, I could have been seriously hurt or worse. Standing our ground was normal back then, but now, as a father, I would run.
He is fron the netherland.
Nac heeft gewoon een toxic supporters groep
stop saying we if you weren't there. perpetuates the tribalism
Nothing noble about standing ur ground against a bunch of wankers with nothing going on
The drop off in football violence in the 1990’s is a case of correlation doesn’t equal causation. At the same time the Thatcher government introduced new measures and legislation, ecstasy was introduced to the UK and the rave scene really popped off. A lot of hooligans simply stopped going to football and started going to raves. Talk to anyone involved now they’ll tell you it’s just as violent now, it’s just more underground and secretive.
There was little football hooliganism in the post WW2 era. My schoolboy friend and I used to stand on the terraces at White Hart Lane in the 1950s and early 60s in crowds of 76, 000 (which is what White Lane held then). My parents never worried. It was unusual to see a fight. The trouble started with skinheads in 1968 and after that you had to be a bit careful about where you stood and leaving the ground. The police and the clubs took ages to work out what was happening and how to section off the various areas of the ground and prevent one lot filing Red Indian style through the crowd at half time to get at the other lot.
This game you are not ready for it. Your in the middle of this beautiful sci-fi environment. Simple actions have massive effects. More players start coming and it starts a complete cascade of actions. People start dying left right and center. Everybody is this journey and writing their own stories. Things continue to change and evolve, its awesome and I love it.
Dated a British guy who introduced me to all of the history of this. Cause I could never understand why there were so many fights at football games. Kind of understood when he explained the love of there hometown and what the teams do for there community. He introduced me to the SE Dons and I have been a fan since lol.
SE Dons? MK Dons or Wimbledon do you mean? MK Dons weren’t a thing in the 1980’s. So if it’s Wimbledon then I’m not sure there were many rows. Great days back in the 80’s though. Luton was brutal most Saturdays when we were at home. The nearby London clubs all wanted to take us. Some did most didn’t. We didn’t have the numbers like Arsenal’s Herd, Bushwackers, the Yid Army or the ICF but we had quality. And apart from Leicester, the only firms that didn’t recognise colour or culture.
@@jamisbillson4872 No sir. I definitely meant the SE Dons. They are a team from South East, started in 2014 I believe. I really just love the commentary on the videos. Hilarious. czcams.com/video/kNIMf8WFkkw/video.html
Luton totally had us one away. Seriously took us right out. Good firm. Shit Pitch.
@@bigdunc228 I missed that one mate. Unfortunately I wasn’t old enough to get involved in the early 80’s. Did a little spotting with my mates though. Has several phone box numbers around Luton train station, town centre and Bury Park where the stadium is. The MIGs knew that organisation was our strength. Along with almost all Luton fans…we are proud of our history in and off the pitch.
Interesting video not the style I thought it would be and very informative liked it a lot 👍
Cheers for the brief feature with the vice comment 🤣
All in all very impressed with this video, a very well covered and interesting video on the phenomenon of football hooliganism. Without snitching on anyone, nowadays it still definitely exists it's just mostly out of view of the public and mostly only involving those who want to be involved. Football hooliganism is definitely biggest in Continental Europe at the moment, the organisation of their hooligans gives them the advantage over the UK where it seems to be more random and spontaneous now. Nonetheless, the influence of UK casuals culture, dress etc is still ingrained in football all around the world.
Realistically considering how a lot of clubs effectively represent their cities or communities within cities there's always gonna be a subsection of fans willing to take their passion for their club to a violent level and no matter what security measures are in place history suggests they'll find ways to fight. So in my eyes, if they wanna fight outside of public view and not disturb regular fans as we're seeing with forest fights, arranged scraps etc then so be it. Even among Hooligan Firms nowadays attacks on regular fans, civillians etc are mostly condemned and viewed as cowardly.
I wonder if any genuine organisation of it might happen, id watch it 🤣
@@JimmyTheGiant King of the Streets is a good example, but it is one on one.
One of my old friends from primary school got convicted of an attack that left a man brain damaged. Really sad situation. Great video on this topic, it’s a mad one. Those films (while shit on rewatches in adulthood) were great as a kid
I like all of your videos,,,,,THANK YOU
Hooligans are like Fight Club.
Another awesome video!! Keep up the amazing job ✌️
Lovely message at the end
FANTASTIC VIDEO!
1970/80s was such a tumultuous and gritty time in the UK but so important. I do credit and like the Football Hooligans for defining an era that will never be forgotten. I absolutely love our history.
Aye, the good old days.
I Have to say , Just Amazing , Truly amazing work , from the research ( getting into The psychology of it, The Subject it self ) To the retro clips , and archive news clips and headlines , I Cant imagine how much Research go's into just a 10-20min vid . But also to the editing and sound/Sound bites and the narration by your self Jimmy You have the Voice for it
This is the first vid of yours iv ever seen and lol I'm fan already ... Just on this One vid alone .. Its just super rare to find this much quality & man hours has gone into this the production and omfg if you done this on your own that would be Honestly Incredible
I hope Your subs go way higher ( Even tho that's a huge number ) , i just did Btw lol , But i truly hope you get something more as in you obviously have the talent for presenting but the voice for it too, a mini series on Telly be it Ch4 or BBC3 online or Ch5.. i can honestly see big things for you, i don't know how Long you are going , Again first vid of yours iv ever seen ,, And again blow away by the quality!
My Bad on the long winded comment i just wanted you to know all that work , I.E What i said above does not go unnoticed
LOL Not blowing smoke here just giving you credit where it is deserved imo
Damn thank you very much brother, truly appreciate that
The “physiology of it” ??? What do you mean
Quite good. well done.
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Interesting video.
I mean El Salvador and Honduras fought a small 3.5 day war over a football match if that gives you an idea how bad football hooligans are. They managed to convince their governments to have their own little scrap lmao
I can still remember when it was concrete steps, metal bars and press. Seeing all seated stadiums still seems new to me.
wow !!!
At 9:35 you got a glimpse of young Davide icke tereporting a match,
Legend !
Are the streets "safer" then or now.
this type of sort of hooliganism is also very common in Portugal's football culture. It the thing that made me hate football in general to it's core. I can't even stand hearing people arguing about it because of how one team just won the match due to the referee being bribed or because of corruption or whatever. I get seriously confused how so many people just lash out over such a pointless thing to get angry over.
misguided individuals, a sign of the state of society. we should rally behind some unifying cause not divide over random factions that have no bearing to what is really going on in the world
"Football culture" spot on, people focus on specific countries to much when its football that should be looked at, it happens everywhere where theres football, you don't see it with other sports
Love your subculture videos, with the passing of Terry Hall a video about Rudie culture would be timely.
Rude Boy.
@@FHIPrincePeter well technically there's rude boys and girls but if I simply said Rude culture I didn't think that would read correctly unless you're already in the know. Also Rude Boy was coopted and changed through out the decades and became something different entire by the 2000's
much of this is chilling - when conditions continue to be squeezed, over time, where else will that built-up aggression manifest itself?
I read in the Glasgow Herald 1905, that of a Saturdayy, there were big fights between football supporters in Glasgow.
I’m currently studying sociology for my degree so this is so fascinating well done!
Love this!!! Can you expand more on the skinheads and rudeboys?
Second this idea!
Can you expand more on rockers/punks too?
Has this guy done one on Mods yet?
Why just skinheads let's expand on this. Mods, Rockers/Bikers and the casuals who probably became the football hooligans of the 80's.
There's also skinheads who go by "SHARP" they are anti-racist skinheads , against the white power skinheads , fascists etc. 👍.
insightful
in brazil there is also this kind of behavior in football, rivalry and violence in football stadiums was always very common, there's the brasil vs argentina feud and also various brazilian football teams who cause riots on stadiums and fight with one another, though it has stopped in this couple of decades
Now can we get a follow up on European continental hooligans as well?
I mean, the Dutch have a reputation for being very passionate about their clubs, for better or worse and have had truly shocking hooligan fights that are quite litreally to the death
Boca juniors are the worst in the world, bloody crazy them lot!
Serbian firms copied the English firms, and many of them went onto be paramilitaries during the break-up of Yugoslavia.
Casuals started to wear stone island around 1986/87. No casual wore it in the early 80s. Which many people say
You sure about that mate.😂😂😂
As I suspected another legit and informed look video with facts left right and centre top job again mucker good darts !
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