Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 1) | Review / Retrospective - Bull Session
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008) Season 1 Review Retrospective thoughts and analysis by Bull Session
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars 2008 - 2020
Starring Matt Lanter as Anakin Skywalker, James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Plo Koon, Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka Tano, Dee Bradley Baker as Clone Troopers, Tom Kane as Narrator, Yoda, Matthew Wood as General Grievous, Battle Droids, Nika Futterman as Asajj Ventress, and Anthony Daniels as C-3PO
Created by George Lucas
Developed by Dave Filoni, Henry Gilroy
Written by Dave Filoni, Steven Melching, Katie Lucas, Chris tian Taylor, Drew Z. Greenberg, Henry Gilroy, Cameron Litvack, Matt Michnovetz, Paul Dini
Directed by Dave Filoni
Produced by: Lucasfilm, Lucasfilm Animation, Lucasfilm Animation Singapore, Polygon Pictures
Distributed by: Warner Bros. Television Distribution (2008-2013), Trifecta Entertainment & Media (2012-13), Disney-ABC Domestic Television (since 2013), Netflix (2014), Disney Media Distribution (2020)
Related works include: The Star Wars prequel trilogy: The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars Rebels, Star Wars Resistance, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens, The Rise of Skywalker, Rogue One, Solo, The Mandalorian
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Loving Season 2 so far!
*Goooood*
What've Cad Bane?
You do know George never said the 2003 version was canon. Yeah I know. It sucks for Grevious.
When you gonna do the other seasons?
I didnât know Dave Filoni worked on Avatar: The Last Airbender until a few months ago, but now I canât unsee the similarities.
He only directed a few very early episodes; he was basically a nobody at the time of being hired for Clone Wars, and he's been at Lucasfilm ever since. He praises Avatar highly in interviews though.
11:20 fun fact the reason Plo Koon has such a meaty roll is because heâs Dave Filoniâs favorite Jedi
The Clone Wars is my favorite Star Wars content to come out of the last decade, hands down.
Quote from Star Wars - The Clone Wars:
(Kit Fisto)
''A second look usually pays off.''
Always check your surroundings. Pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Measure twice, cut once.
Totally agree and watch everything Star Wars in order. Every time I watch anything Star Wars I pick up something new even if I've seen it more than once.
Ziro the Hutt DOES re-appear in the Clone Wars series, dude.
He's just talking about season 1.
@@CutDownTheSun Im pretty sure he appears in the last episode of season 1, so...
Ah crap, really? Guess I jinxed myself. I didn't watch the last episode of season one, because the official watch order places it in the middle of season 3.
@@BullSession Oh right that chronology order, yes I guess its better this for a first time. Btw IMO Clone Wars doesnt get as good as people think until season 3 and there still some bad episodes in that season, its from season 4 and onwards where there are no bad episodes and a greater number of truly great episodes, I found the series is a lot like the prequel trilogy, like half of it is bad or meh, while the other half is good or great.
@Tom Ffrenchseason 2 has many meh episodes, and of course many good ones but None of the season 2 episodes are on the caliber of the transdoshans arc, or the umbara arc, or the Maul arc, I mean its highs are good but not great.
I still consider the 2003 Clone Wars to be Canon. George Lucas intended it to be that way.
I actually loved the Battle Droids. Sure they're idiots but they're lovable idiots.
R2 knows what he's doing. C3P0 is the sole dumbass in the duo. :P
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I just started the Clone Wars too, glad I'm not alone! This video helped me process my thoughts, musings and excitement for what I've seen so far - which is hard to do when everyone is talking about season 7 and long forgotten these earlier episodes - so thank you for making this video!
I personally love how they did the battle droids. They abviously canât make them scary and powerful because they get cut down so often and easily, so they intelligently use them for comedic relief during episodes and many of their jokes land in my opinion.
I feel like there are points in this series where Grievous comes close to his 2003 depiction. A few examples come up in later seasons, but here in season 1, the episode in his lair is pretty good imo. They literally tie him down and cut off his legs, and he still manages to put up a fight and overpower everyone around him, even killing some of them in his escape.
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Ssssooo basically she's like Enzo Matrix before she gets proper development.
That's actually a very apt analogy, yes.
@@BullSessionFunny that a thought might be true.
I just started watching this series yesterday, just finished the first season. I think it's actually really good! I'm excited to hear your take on it as I find you seem to have really similar tastes to my own.
Well this was a nice surprise! So happy that this show is getting a lot of love. Hope you do continue with this series because itâs well worth it. Great video.
I disagree with your point on Anakin's characterization being vastdifferent. I find it consistent as to how Anakin would normally act as presented in the films. The way Anakin and Obi-Wan talk on Coursant (particularly in the elevator) tells me Anakin's behavior was abnormal and him acting out of defiance and disrespect was mainly due to the circumstances. Think about it: For the past 10 years you've been trying to surpass emptional connections only for your first (and likely only) crush to renter your life and she's grown up nicely. Wouldn't your hormones drive you crazy? And in Revenge of the Sith his main motivation for joining the Dark Side was to save Padme.
Compare how he acts in AotC to the first act of Revenge of the Sith. He shows sincere respect and admiration to Obi-Wan, cares deeply for his friends, makes quips, and enjoys battle perhaps a bit too much. If you don't believe me here are some lines from Revenge of the Sith's first half-hour or so.
Palpatine: Anakin, there is no time. We must get off the ship before it's too late.
Anakin: [Obi-Wan] seems to be all right. No broken bones, breathing's all right.
Palpatine: Leave him, or we'll never make it.
Anakin: His fate will be the same as ours.
ANAKIN: (to Obi-Wan) Are you coming, Master?
OBI-WAN: Oh no. I'm not brave enough for politics. I have to report to the Council. Besides, someone needs to be the poster boy.
ANAKIN: Hold on, this whole operation was your idea. You planned it. You led the rescue operation. You have to be the one to take the bows this time.
OBI-WAN: Sorry, old friend. Let us not forget that you rescued me from the Buzz Droids. And you killed Count Dooku. And you rescued the Chancellor, carrying me unconscious on your back, and you managed to land that bucket of bolts safely . . .
ANAKIN: All because of your training, Master. You deserve all those speeches of your greatness.
OBI-WAN: . . . the endless speeches . . . Anakin, let's be fair. Today, you are the hero and you deserve your glorious day with the politicians.
ANAKIN: All right. But you owe me . . . and not for saving your skin for the tenth time . . .
OBI-WAN: Ninth time . . . that business on Cato Nemoidia doesn't count. I'll see you at the briefing.
Anakin: Master, I've disappointed you. I have not been very appreciative of your training . . . I have been arrogant and I apologize . . . I've just been so frustrated with the Council. Your friendship means everything to me.
Obi-Wan: You are strong and wise, Anakin, and I am very proud of you. I have trained you since you were a small boy. I have taught you everything I know. And you have become a far greater Jedi than I could ever hope to be, and you have saved my life more times than I can remember. But be patient, Anakin. It won't be long before the Council makes you a Jedi Master
GENERAL GRIEVOUS: Anakin Skywalker ... I was expecting someone with your reputation to be a little older.
ANAKIN: General Grievous . . . Supreme Commander of the Droid Armies. You're shorter than I expected.
(Fun fact: In Order to preserve continuity with this line Anakin and Grevious never encounter each other face to face in the entire show)
Basically what we saw in the films was how he acted under severe emotional turmoil with some of the bad acting perhaps intentional. Given he's trying and failing to suppress his emotions. With The Clone Wars and RotS prologue being how he acts in a (relatively) more relaxed environment
Hmm... maybe I could buy it, but he still seems like a different guy... perhaps it's that the performances differ?
PS: I never even considered the "shorter than I expected" line, that's a fun little detail!
Bull Session maybe Iâm a bit too forgiving for some of the prequels flaws as that was the era I grew up in. But I guess the best way to see if Iâm unbiased or not is just to let you watch the whole series
â@@kylecampbell565 you are on the right path, Jedi gets toddlers and Anakin was too old. Now he has to live a monk lifestyle and not have attachments and realizes the jedi aren't 100% heroes he thought of as a slave.
If he doesn't flirt but then sees his crush that he has been thinking off, of course he won't be smooth.
He becomes a jedi but couldn't save his mother, and see same visions about Padme. Meanwhile the jedi council so blinded by not facing the dark side didn't want to belive in Maul and could never see Palatine right in front of them.
Great stuff, I have no idea why more people aren't subbed to this channel!
MGS theme started playing as you talked about clones.. was that intentional? :P
I had a force vision of this going to be awesome. Just as all your other videos!
Star Wars is where Clones talk on phones
One of my favorite quotes from the show is between Snips and Flyguy goes something along the lines of skywalker âwhat did I teach you about breaking the rules?â Ashoka âhow, you taught me how to break them.â
anyone else think Ziro the Hutt sounds like Eric Cartman from south park
I'm so glad you're enjoying it! And that you're watching these in the correct (chronological, wasn't it?) order so it makes more sense. đ
The First three seasons of The Clone Wars suffered from being too "safe", and it doesn't get much better until the latter half of Season 3. This is especially bad in the very first season (which is why I'm commenting here and not a later vid) since I think they were still thinking this would be a wholly a kid's show. Rebels suffered from this too. Fortunately they shake this off eventually, and the product as a whole is better when viewed as a completed product.
As for Anakin being a different character? This will eventually show just how Anakin became Vader. However given the nuances, it feels like Vader himself is different from his movie portrayal (He shows up in Rebels).
Safe? đ€š tell that all the deaths that involved. Including the movie where it had decapitated bounty hunters.
Obligatory hello there!
GENERAL KORNIENKO.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that Asajj Vantress is voiced by Nika Flutterman of My Gym Partner's a Monkey, The Loud House, Mike LU & Of, And Sonic Boom's star.
this series is truly one of the best
You had my curiosity but after hearing the metal gear solid 2 music you have my attention đđ€đ
I completly agree - Bings and the Battle Droids are more annoying then entertaining, Ashoka is all right but a lil flat, Luke realy shines and the overall story is keeping me intrigued.
I realy like how they focus more on Docu as a villain then the Emperor.
I have finished half of the second season as of now and have to say that it realy get better and better by the episodes.
This - even more then the Mandelorian who feels kind of detached from SW for me - realy saved SW for me.
Keep up the good work
ziro was in the season finale btw
And about your point of the film not being a good introduction, I have to agree. It had no business in theaters. I never saw it till after the series started because my parents and sister weren't interested in "fake" star wars. I do wonder if I would've become as big of a fan of the series had I started with the pilot film instead of "Ambush"
It's honestly baffling how much worse the movie is than everything else (even the Jar Jar episodes)
Bull Session I can only think of two good moments in the film Rex resisting s mind trick and sneaking a warning to Anakin and this line
Anakin: âYouâre reckless little one, you wouldâve never made it as Obi-Wanâs apprientice. (Smirks) But you might make it as mine.
I am curious how much of the $6 million budget was spent on getting Samuel L Jackson and Christopher Lee back (in case you didnât notice exculsilvly for the film they reprise their rolls)
I had the same experience 100%, the movie sucked all excitement and interest I had for the series...the 2d series before this was insanely cool. Great job!
This version of Grievous is NOT shitty. He's still a great fighter for a not force user. It was the 2003 version that was WAY too overpowered and that's why that series is NOT canon
He was beaten by a bunch of gungens and he doesn't show any strategical thinking
@@mrdilophosaursr410 He actually does. Many times.
The Battle droids Acting that way is apparently a combination of poor maintenance and the Primitive A.I. overclocking the system. I had no idea there was a suggested watch order, i just resigned myself to things happening when they happened.
3:38 i was exspecting a "WHERE WAS GONDOR" insert and i was kinda disapointed when it didnt happen.
I can definitely fit the 2008 Clone Wars into the 2003 Clone Wars, with the 2008 show (and its pilot movie) taking place between chapters 21 and 22 of the 2003 Clone Wars.
Man. This show shows so much development and character with each Clone and Characters who would be important later on. They made me like a bunch of characters instantly than other franchises. Hahaha they gave us more evidence that Jar Jar Binks is a sith lord!! One of the biggest plot holes is of how Grevious coughs in ROTS
Keep going u won't regret
I love the battle droids hahaha
22:49 The sexual chemistry. Haha
rotta's cute to be honest
Awesome I was wondering if you would ever watch it. Iâve watched this show more than Iâve watched the movies
13:54 LOL
11:56 Couldn't agree more with everything you said about Anakin
3:58 technically they're ring tailed lemurs. Not monkeys.
Is it me that likes those Jar Jar episodes
All of your gripes with the stiffness and textures are irrelevant considering how good the overall story is.
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Since I was a kid I enjoyed the movie but I get why everyone didn't like the movie. It's kinda hard to watch now that I'm older but I still love it.
why do I hear the MGS3 soundtrack int he background?
This show is about the clones of a legendary soldier being used as disposibly gvnt assets to perpetuate a war that was orchestrated by corrupt officials who are playing both sides. The clones themselves are aware they're being used, but go along with it since they were literally bred for this, and combat is the only thing they've ever known.
Sound familiar?
@@BullSession it might if I ever played ant Metal Gear games. sadly I've never had that opportunity, and I'm not sure I'd be very fond of these games. I'm not big into mandatory stealth
I loved Star Wars clone wars it was really awesome and badass
18:15 "Not to me."
I really think it makes sense that Episode II Anakin is prewar, inexperienced and childish. Clone Wars Anakin is an evolution of him that had to quickly grow up and be a leader and teacher. But his inner flaws are still there.
Anakin was never meant to be a legitimate protagonist. His portrayals in the movies seems more accurate (and the 2003 cartoon)... he showed sociopathic traits. They did retcon his character which I don't think was necessarily a good thing.
I want to give this series a chance, I want to watch even more now, but I can't. Not a lack of access but I refuse to acknowledge "Disney's Star Wars" over "Star Wars" since they decided that every expanded universe thing is non-canon since I loved a lot of the expanded universe stuff growing up, and still do. I love "Clone Wars" and I feel like I would be betraying my own ideals to start supporting "Borgsney's" practice of assimilation.
Technically this show began almost 5 years before Disney bought Lucasfilm. The first several seasons were overseen by George Lucas personally.
@@BullSession maybe... But the fact that it replaced something I love as to override it completely makes it feel... Wrong to me. especially with the recent Warcraft 3 thing which means I can't even play my legally purchase copy of Warcraft 3 from years ago, because the new reforged version has locked out the campaign
Wilson Bennett based on what I read George Lucas himself never considered the EU canon. And this series (where the first 6 seasons were written pre buyout and the first 4 and half aired before the buyout) already made lots of stuff non canon (especially when it comes to Grevious and Ventress)
www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2019/08/guest-editorial-did-george-lucas-consider-the-expanded-universe-canon.html
Tom Ffrench i Personally like the fact all novels and cartoons are considered just as canon as the films. While Iâm displeased with how Disney handled the sequel trilogy I will say the Lucas story group has been a good thing to me at least.
Anyway my point is you canât blame Clone Wars on Disney
@Tom Ffrench That is true. And the rise of skywalker shows the storygroup has gotten a bit sloopy but I'm unsure who to blame for that J.J, the screenplay writer or there being to much EU to keep track of
6:00 man why people keep letting george Lucas fuck with star wars?
I like this video. One thing I would say is lower the volume of the background music a tiny bit more
volume of BG music is something I keep struggling with. I always think it's gonna be too quiet, so I turn it up, then people let me know it's too loud >.<
Next time I will err on the quieter side.
@@BullSession
It's ok. Time will get better
I also so so sick and tired of the clone wars movie getting hate.
assaj and obi-wan have always been..........dddly flirty with each in the show.
i think jar jar is way better in this show than the movies, but those episodes are definitely meant for the younger audience đ
Y'know, I was agreeing until he critiqued the Battle Droids. THEY ARE PERFECT THE WAY THEY ARE
Yeah, Iâm not a fan of how the Battledroids were portrayed in TCW and onward either. I much rather prefer their portrayal in Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Clone Wars 2003, and even the original 2005 Battlefront 2. And this issue isnât just with the regular B1 models, but also the B2 Super Battledroids. I donât like the extremely top-heavy, easy-to-topple-over design the Supers have, where they lumber about to walk. Not only does it take away their intimidating approach from Attack of the Clones, but also in that movie, and CW â03 and Battlefront â05, theyâve been clearly capable of sprinting
Yeah less jar jar the better oof
To me Ziro always sounded like a gay Mr. Smee. Openly gay, that is. :P
Omg I never even thought of Mr Smee, but you're totally right
@@BullSession Smee really wants Hook to stop obsessing over Pan so they can finally settle down and raise an adopted Injun boy together. :P
I never actually saw the movie and I guess I should be happy about it. Sorry to hear it made you avoid the series.
And yea, the chronological order is a good choice. You seem to be well aware of the fan opinion, so I got nothing more to offer there.
Jumping the gun a bit here:
I would probably just not bother with Rebels or Resistance.
Rebels was pretty bad through out, mostly. Resistance at least got steadily better as it progressed tho.
There were some great episodes in Rebels, the ones without Ezra, the main character. Or ones with a big shot villain like Tarkin, Vader or Thrawn themselves.
P.S. Look up the Darth Jar Jar theory and he becomes marginally more bearable. Even if it's just a fan theory.
@Tom Ffrench it has a lot of good stuff going for it. The main drawback is the main character and how insufferable he is.
Might even compete with Jar Jar for the top spot.
Star Wars was better on Cartoon Network
The clone wars is just much worse than star wars clone wars they just should have kept clone wars canon and not have replaced it with the clone wars
Season 1 was so boring. Luckily the other seasons are great.
Ok, serious question... why do people like this show? I'm part-way through Season 1 and I'm really struggling to keep any motivation to keep watching. It's like watching war propaganda, but it just never ends. None of the characters are even remotely realistic in their motivations, actions, thought patterns..... nothing.
Season 1 is rough to get through, but the show gets better and better as it goes along. Season 3 through Season 5 have some of my favorite episodes in the whole show
All I'm hearing is prequel bashing.
I'm sorry, but the voice acting seems absolutely awful
it's pretty good and gets better as the series goes on