For those who watch all the way until the end, the 0.8 ohms uncertified test was mistakenly shown as 1 ohm. The 0.8 result was 9624W at 14.52VDC. Sorry about that! Demo of the 2 7500's is from BigVell02, see full vid here: czcams.com/video/0eOfZcRofO8/video.html Video Index: 0:00 Intro 1:13 Unboxing 2:15 Ratings and Specs 3:40 Settings for Test 4:55 Amp Dyno Tests 9:16 What's Inside? 10:39 Real Demo's 11:01 Pros/Cons 12:15 Extras Shop: (affiliate links) Taramps MD8000.1EX (2022): amzn.to/3DDhjzy Taramps Smart 5 Amplifier: amzn.to/3oX0XLV Taramps Smart 5 Bass Amplifier: amzn.to/3oXIX3W KICKER L7R Quad Box: amzn.to/3iY77rR XS Power LTO Cells: lddy.no/13d2f XS Power Intellisupply PSC90: lddy.no/13d2g (Video Gear I Use) Camera - iPhone Xs Max 512GB - goo.gl/uFHBh8 Samson Go Mic Mobile - amzn.to/2BSAtll 960 LED Panel: amzn.to/2Sxoq3S Lavaliere Microphone - amzn.to/2Rw5PIw Sennheiser Wireless Mic - amzn.to/2BSwIfD This VIDEO was EDITED with LumaFusion on an iPad Pro 12.9: iPad: amzn.to/2Ancr1W Software: goo.gl/6yvWss --------- Test Bench Equipment ------- SMD / D'Amore Engineering Amp Dyno: goo.gl/sJTcf7 XS Power D1400 Batteries - amzn.to/2BPFCKW XS Power PSC60 Charger - amzn.to/2CHGcfs Fluke 1000A AC/DC Clamp Meter: amzn.to/2Rw5WDA Handheld Dyno: amzn.to/2u2EgKV My Favorite Screwdriver Kit: amzn.to/2x0VzcE DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you purchase from one of the product links, I may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
I tested a Teampie 4 channel and it was super efficient as well. Seems like a solid amp for someone willing to take their chances on the warranty/quality control issues.
@@krisoldaker4171 thanks man I only have two skar VXF-12 | 12" 3,000 Watt Max Power Car Subwoofer - Dual 4 Ohm And SKv2-3500.1D | 3,500 Watt Monoblock Car Amplifier. You think what u recommend will be too much or just enough
The clip limiter prevents the amp from sending out a clipped signal which is probably why the first few test had thoes jumps,,, it is a very useful feature that can save a persons subwoofers
@@wal oh ok must of misunderstood when you said turn it to off,, was thinking that’s why it was having thoes jumps… so then the results were better with it turned on then? I suppose a person wouldn’t see jumps like that in vehicle tho anyways
Emf rebrands these as well they are proven to be great performers and reliable just be certain to feed all amplifier the voltage they need and any brand will be Awsome
Very awesome there Big D. Looks to be a good value on that Amp. You also did that one test uncertified at 1 ohm instead of 0.8 ohms on that last test too.
Teampies are great amps. People talk trash on em and others just regurgitated. Plain and simple, they are amazing amps, especially when you consider price.
@@wal very funny sir.. in all seriousness , I'm a little older than you probably but I do enjoy your very informative videos so I can re live the "old school days" of 4 fifteens in a wall of a 87 Escort GT...thanks again sir!
I've talked to Candice a few times. Legit for what you get. Only thing that holds me back is how do you warranty the amp? But at the same time blown amps are mostly pointed to "user error" so...
The LTO bank held up well. Wouldn't mind seeing a video on it. For the price this isn't a bad amp at all, even with the junk windings. Also,doubt id use it but i like the option of the clip limit button. I paid bout that much for my 3k
Video in the bank is planned. It’s on a rolling cart for now and I’m trying to get ahead enough to make my new workshop bench so the bank has a resting place
@@wal that'd be pretty cool. I imagine it's important to have everything you need within reach while doing all these amp tests. Stoked for the lto bank video brothaman. Stay healthy n take care
@@bigbiscuit6751 how many watts are you at if you don't mind me askin? I was amazed how big of a difference the sb-630 ultracap made. Subs even sounds better
Just a thought here, but when you convert the DC to AC the AC doesn't need huge wires to transmit properly, I believe that's why the 8 gauge wires on the output.
@@wal Some dummy math? 8000W over 1 ohm will recuire 90volts RMS (AC). That will need the amplifier to supply 90A RMS (AC) to the speaker wires. (90 x 90 = 8000) The same amp will probably use about 900 Amps on the power cable. (65% efficiency class D) (13.8 x 580 = 8000, but for 65% efficiency 580 / 0.7 = approx 900A So if we make a calculation to keep the same power loss in the speaker wire as in the power wire and assume that the power wire is about 5 times longer than the speaker wire. 900A is ten times as much as 90A. So, the speaker wire only needs to be a tenth as large in area for the same power loss. And to that we have to add that the speaker wires are most commonly shorter. In this case five times shorter which makes it only have to be a 1/2 of 1/10 which equals to 1/20..... So, if you, in this case, use 3 feet (appr 1meter) long speaker wire (back and forth = 6 feet (2 meter) of area 8 Gauge ( 8,4 mm2). And use 12 feet (4 meter) two parallell 000 Gauge (2 x 84mm2) wires from the positive battery terminal. There will be equal loss in the power wires as the speaker wires. So, the speaker wires is well worth considering to keep very short, just as well as putting extra batteries/caps close to the amp in my opinion. But the power wire must be adressed first, otherwise the output of the amp will be reduced regardless of the speaker wire area. I think, as you say, 4 Gauge speaker wire terminals would suite this amp better. Please excueeze my poor engloiise, and maybe poor math :) Always impressive to watch your tests!
It's not about ac and dc, it's about current. The speakers sides have higher voltage so carry a lot lesser current for delivering the pretty much same power
2 things one you did a test saying it’s @.8 but it was in fact @1ohm that’s why it was lower @12:41 and second since there not whounded tight can’t you at some of that glue they use on the lose part so there not vibrating? Great amp too by the way and shout outs to JONES SUBWOOFER SOLUTIONS THEY DO EVERYTHING THERE
Sup D, I just wanted to point out that it's 3 amps probably more that share this same board... 1. Teampie 7500 2. Vital Power 700.1 3. American Bass 750.1 Every John and Jane trying to make a quick buck now days off what gains popularity. American Bass got ripped off. Been around longer and more trusted plus reliable.
Finally a class D with some BEEF in the design and weight! Please include amperage draw on tests, thank you.. I see the amperage draw THANK YOU! You'd need another altinator and maybe another battery in your car to run most of these high powered mega amp. draw amplifiers.. Not a super big fan of class D amps.. If I had a high power set up in my car I'd have a dedicated LEFT and RIGHT channel with STEREO separation. Screw the MONO subwoofer setups.. SEPERATE the sides to get STEREO SOUND! I might not be as impressive for sub. shaking output but it'll sound a lot better if your listening to Rock & Roll!
@@poopool_Q if I had one of these (or any amp) and the windings were loose i'd hot glue em... Or put epoxy on there. Even without bass, vehicles vibrate...
@@poopool_Q use a neutral cure silicon in the middle hole and around the top. you can run a bead around the base as well. doesnt take long to do. let it cure about a day or 2 and your good to go
Throw 4 of those in a 60's Rambler. Talk about cracking skulls. Still cheaper than builds with way less power 20 or 30 years ago when even I was young. I envision Darth Sideous saying power, unlimited power...
Another great vid from Big D @ Williston Audio Labs & I'm outta heerrre!! *These TeamPie amps seem to be a great buy for bassheads! I've yet to see anyone who has bought one say anything negative about the TP amps. The TP & new JP amps are the new kids on the block who really have my attention. One of them will be my next amp purchase unless I end up buying a Smart5 to replace my Smart3 for my single 18 build.
@@wal yes I stay watching all your content brother! Now I have to figure out which lithium to go with so I can finally install my large amps. Big D I feel so lithium dumb... Smh
I have 3 teampie 7500 and one jp83 both amps are bad ass amps had teampie bout 2 years jp83 bout 6 months.Only this bad to say about teampie is they are huge and very heavy. Other then that bad amps. I have not hooked up bass knobs.
For your efficiency on this test , you had 4 runs of 1/0 for power and ground , it seems as though you only x3 your measured current, should it not have been x4 ? Just confused, I watch all your videos your the best
EMF, Jones Subwoofer Solutions and Power Hogg Audio are buying these straight from Teampie and rebranding them with their own logo and selling them. I'm not knocking them for doing so... just letting you know that they are exactly the same amp but with the rebranding comes a higher price tag than buying directly from Teampie. My 5500 just arrived today and I can't wait to get it installed.
i would add some silicon to reduce the chance of failure due to vibrations. its a cheap preventative measure that alot of amps lack but one that can be fixed easily and pretty cheap considering what we pay for the amps.
Love your content brotha! We're from the same Era so I can completely relate! Any way you can do some amp testing on DS18?..looking into buying 1 to match up with 2 shallow 12s. Thanks man!
As much as I like Big power? I think I will stick with MTX. Why? The one time I gave them a call, they answered the phone, and even said " just send in your amp in, we can fix it". THAT WAS IT. I was a customer for life. And they just look great. I mean sold construction etc. But the fact that you have a question, and it gets answered? Hats of to them! I love chinese gear, and when your use amps as tools, like for SPL? Great value, and great power at a price you can afford to buy spares? Easy to repair? Its a no brainer. Looks and performance for me go hand in hand. And I like knowing that if something does go wrong with a custom install? I can call the company for a repair. That really matters to me. Custom installs are a mess if you install them just for the space, so having a solid company behind the amp really makes a difference for me. I like American made / Built hardware. Glad I'm in the point in my life where I can get made in USA gear when the need arises. Its pricey. But I tend not to let go of old hardware. As each has a story. I'm bit sentimental with things I buy.
Why wouldn't u leave the clip limit off for all the tests? I'm sure all the tests would've been different. That's why it didn't count up smooth on the first 2 tests.
You don't need 4 AWG speaker wires with this kind of power. 9500 watts RMS at 1 ohm is equal to 97 amps RMS. Given that the run from amp to subs is generally only a few feet, that is within the current capacity of 8 AWG copper. And given that an amplifier will basically never clamp more power than it can do on the Dyno, that's plenty of headroom
Damn back in the 80s this amp would have been a dream someone thought up ! The price is insane! Now if subs would quit being as big as manhole 🕳 covers !
I use this amp on 4 half ohm subwoofers and the device is working normally. I hope you will do a half ohm load test for us so that we can see what is the capacity for the amp dyno
Half ohm on the Dyno is not something I’d try with this amp. Wiring speakers to half ohm would result in 0.8-1 ohm rise in most cases with most music. I was shown after my vid by a tech my amp doesn’t have the over protection diode and this is concerning
@@princeofbass304 this amp more then likely doesn't have a quality part in it in all honesty. If you have rise it'll handle half ohm. When I was wired at 1 ohm I only had 0.4 rise so I wouldn't risk it with an amp not made to be ran like that with counterfeit parts. It'll work for a little while, but will it be working in 5 years is what I think of
Wouldn't your efficiency be off because of the voltage difference? If the amp was designed for 14.4 or 14.1v then giving more juice would change the efficiency %?
I wanna know what spl this gets on the kicker quad box at full tilt....should be ok power wise after box rise right?! And if not kicker would send u replacements anways right? Full send it on the quad box!!
Tiffany style or panel mount RCA's are more robust as far as pushing cables on and pulling them off. The other style is soldered to the pcb and over time the stress can crack the solder joints. Its not that big a deal, but the panel mounts have a small advantage.
@@ogairbender808 A lot of people just assume they are the same due to them using the same basic design copied from yet another amp. I believe I researched the two brands mentioned above and found they are not made by Teampie.
Correct. You can buy direct from China for the best price or buy from a US retailer who has already imported a batch of them. These will cost more, but you'll get it quicker. So far, Jones Subwoofer has the best prices on them.
"These windings on my amp are loose." Well you're in luck because we're going to fix it for the next guy! I mean, your amp is still messed up, but think of the next guy.. lol.
@@wal yeah I saw the tag in the video, just kind of sucks for you since you bought it with your own money and it's messed up. I've dealt with a few companies over the years that gave me the "thanks for letting us know, we'll make sure to correct this in the future line" and I'm like, awesome, but what about mine?!
@@Thezuule1 Sweet, But what about mine. Dude ohh wait that was a movie. I hate companies that do that without offering an exchange at least. Because if you fix it and it fails they may not warranty it even if it is ultimately the same solution they had.
Is this true RMS power? Or is it instantaneous peak power? Either way, your DC supply needs to be hundreds of amps. Not long before your car battery is flat, it's like running the starter motor non stop.
@@wal Incredible. About 25 years ago I fitted a 500W system. Loved it, I could feel my hair moving with the bass, and all mirrors blurred with bass beats. Went into a shop, left my daughter in the car and she hammered it. When I got back to the car, flat battery. Manual gearbox so I managed to push start it.
It is gain matching- think of the gain as a matching tool not a volume tool. If you are under the overlap less power over on overlap and you clip the amp. Clipping is when the audio wave gets clipped of making it square instead of being round and smooth. I.E. clipped square waves actually turn the voice coil in to a heater coil sticking it at the top or bottom of the stroke. If clipped long enough the coils glue will burn and then you have a slinky or in worst case a fire. It is more complicated than that. But as a simple example there you go.
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For those who watch all the way until the end, the 0.8 ohms uncertified test was mistakenly shown as 1 ohm. The 0.8 result was 9624W at 14.52VDC. Sorry about that!
Demo of the 2 7500's is from BigVell02, see full vid here: czcams.com/video/0eOfZcRofO8/video.html
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2:15 Ratings and Specs
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9:16 What's Inside?
10:39 Real Demo's
11:01 Pros/Cons
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@@wal how much did that amp cost ? I can’t find prices anywhere for it
I tested a Teampie 4 channel and it was super efficient as well. Seems like a solid amp for someone willing to take their chances on the warranty/quality control issues.
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@@wal soi have a question how many 14v batteries are needed to hold that 14v in a car. To get good quality sound
@@newmoney8128 you'll need 2 320 amp alternators and about 100ah of lithium. That's what I run for my sundown scv7500. My voltage stays around 14
@@krisoldaker4171 thanks man I only have two skar VXF-12 | 12" 3,000 Watt Max Power Car Subwoofer - Dual 4 Ohm
And SKv2-3500.1D | 3,500 Watt Monoblock Car Amplifier.
You think what u recommend will be too much or just enough
@@newmoney8128 for that skar a 320 amp alternator and 50 ah of lithium should be plenty
The clip limiter prevents the amp from sending out a clipped signal which is probably why the first few test had thoes jumps,,, it is a very useful feature that can save a persons subwoofers
Good ole clip meter to the rescue. Really is a life saver
I didn’t enable the clip feature until the 1 ohm run where I showed it enabled
@@wal oh ok must of misunderstood when you said turn it to off,, was thinking that’s why it was having thoes jumps… so then the results were better with it turned on then? I suppose a person wouldn’t see jumps like that in vehicle tho anyways
Emf rebrands these as well they are proven to be great performers and reliable just be certain to feed all amplifier the voltage they need and any brand will be Awsome
Yeah need the juice!
Helluva markup on the EMF stuff too lol. Might have to grab me a 4k direct from Teampie.
@@djhaloeight that EMF logo and name cost $400 extra.
Look at def bonce AAk 7500 exactly the same
Very awesome there Big D. Looks to be a good value on that Amp. You also did that one test uncertified at 1 ohm instead of 0.8 ohms on that last test too.
Looks and perfoms just like my Def Boce .
They will be releasing the 20k version soon and I can't wait.
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The extra tests you made a mistake at the uncertified test, you did 1ohm instead of .8.
9624 was the uncert 0.8 run. Oops
@@wal still love ya big d, keep doing what you do!
@@wal never mind lol
@@wal u big dummy
*❌✅ Williston Audio Labs 👈😎❌ But What’s the Asking Pice fo this bad Boy (DOE👋🤣❓*
Man I love you're videos. Straight to the point with almost every amp manufacturered. Informative and entertaining. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Teampies are great amps. People talk trash on em and others just regurgitated. Plain and simple, they are amazing amps, especially when you consider price.
Seem to be good value just worry about that lack of after the sale support
@@wal agreed. Good thing we have repair techs in the USA that can repair these. Waiting periods suck right now though
Well done my man. I've seen these running around the internet, glad the hype is real. Thanks for the share.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
It's nice to know that there is a CZcams celebrity in the same town where I work... keep up the great work sir!
Who’s that?Tell him I said wassup!
@@wal very funny sir.. in all seriousness , I'm a little older than you probably but I do enjoy your very informative videos so I can re live the "old school days" of 4 fifteens in a wall of a 87 Escort GT...thanks again sir!
@@jamesreagan1502 Oh there ya go! I'm just playing with stereos and trying to make people smile, glad to have you here to join in!
I love team pie amps they always over perform and built great 👍
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Respect to Mrs Candice! I think these amps are going to place high in the audio world.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
That’s my video clip in the demo part. I see Teampie used my video.
I’ll link to your video, thought you gave it to them. I update sending them to your video 👍
I've talked to Candice a few times. Legit for what you get. Only thing that holds me back is how do you warranty the amp? But at the same time blown amps are mostly pointed to "user error" so...
Yes a big concern is after the sale support since any resolution of issues will be difficult
I heard they have a US repair source that it can be sent to. I wish I could find more details on it.
I belive all of EMFs amps are Teampie also👍
The LTO bank held up well. Wouldn't mind seeing a video on it. For the price this isn't a bad amp at all, even with the junk windings. Also,doubt id use it but i like the option of the clip limit button. I paid bout that much for my 3k
Video in the bank is planned. It’s on a rolling cart for now and I’m trying to get ahead enough to make my new workshop bench so the bank has a resting place
@@wal that'd be pretty cool. I imagine it's important to have everything you need within reach while doing all these amp tests. Stoked for the lto bank video brothaman. Stay healthy n take care
Glad it's coming, been curious of your current setup. I know I saw your old AGM battery setup in some video.
I use LTO bank with a supercap bank in my build
Would love to see you do a video on it!!!
@@bigbiscuit6751 how many watts are you at if you don't mind me askin? I was amazed how big of a difference the sb-630 ultracap made. Subs even sounds better
Jss does amazing work..he builds custom hand built drivers and insane top quality builds..
Yessir!
@@wal watch Mr 15hz on CZcams..
I ordered the 2000.1 few weeks ago 283 shipped by boat.
I'm glad I have this model for 1 year or more and everything is ok, I use 4 benches lishen 18ah 300A alternator 💪😎
Awsome 👌
Just a thought here, but when you convert the DC to AC the AC doesn't need huge wires to transmit properly, I believe that's why the 8 gauge wires on the output.
It’s true
@@wal Some dummy math?
8000W over 1 ohm will recuire 90volts RMS (AC).
That will need the amplifier to supply 90A RMS (AC) to the speaker wires.
(90 x 90 = 8000)
The same amp will probably use about 900 Amps on the power cable. (65% efficiency class D)
(13.8 x 580 = 8000, but for 65% efficiency 580 / 0.7 = approx 900A
So if we make a calculation to keep the same power loss in the speaker wire as in the power wire and assume that the power wire is about 5 times longer than the speaker wire.
900A is ten times as much as 90A.
So, the speaker wire only needs to be a tenth as large in area for the same power loss.
And to that we have to add that the speaker wires are most commonly shorter. In this case five times shorter which makes it only have to be a 1/2 of 1/10 which equals to 1/20.....
So, if you, in this case, use 3 feet (appr 1meter) long speaker wire (back and forth = 6 feet (2 meter) of area 8 Gauge ( 8,4 mm2).
And use 12 feet (4 meter) two parallell 000 Gauge (2 x 84mm2) wires from the positive battery terminal.
There will be equal loss in the power wires as the speaker wires.
So, the speaker wires is well worth considering to keep very short, just as well as putting extra batteries/caps close to the amp in my opinion.
But the power wire must be adressed first, otherwise the output of the amp will be reduced regardless of the speaker wire area.
I think, as you say, 4 Gauge speaker wire terminals would suite this amp better.
Please excueeze my poor engloiise, and maybe poor math :)
Always impressive to watch your tests!
It's not about ac and dc, it's about current.
The speakers sides have higher voltage so carry a lot lesser current for delivering the pretty much same power
You probably already realized that your 0.8 OHM test to clipping was actually @ 1 OHM. It's quite an impressive amp for less than $1,000
Yes I corrected in pinned comment 👌
13:00 “seems less”
The dyno was set to 1 rather than 0.8
What big dummy would do such a thing?? 🤦♂️
2 things one you did a test saying it’s @.8 but it was in fact @1ohm that’s why it was lower @12:41 and second since there not whounded tight can’t you at some of that glue they use on the lose part so there not vibrating? Great amp too by the way and shout outs to JONES SUBWOOFER SOLUTIONS THEY DO EVERYTHING THERE
Yes, you can. The newer versions have a liquid added to the tops of the coils to hold it still.
Updated pinned comment to show 0.8 uncert
Why are the amps so low on your tests. Your meter showed 262amps at 8461 watts certified 1ohm. Jones showed over 830amps on the same test?
262 ampere TIMES 3 inputs = 786 ampere total!!
Also, you did 1ohm on the uncertified test at the end. Instead of .8
9624 was 0.8 uncertified number. I inserted the wrong clip. Very happy to see so many people watching all the way until the end! Y’all rock 🤘
@@wal thanks again. That's huge power.
Yes, just spotted that…..9624 whoooo hooooo
Sup D, I just wanted to point out that it's 3 amps probably more that share this same board...
1. Teampie 7500
2. Vital Power 700.1
3. American Bass 750.1
Every John and Jane trying to make a quick buck now days off what gains popularity. American Bass got ripped off. Been around longer and more trusted plus reliable.
Those are some big time numbers it's putting out... That thing is crazy!!
Yeah pretty much!
Finally a class D with some BEEF in the design and weight! Please include amperage draw on tests,
thank you.. I see the amperage draw THANK YOU! You'd need another altinator and maybe another battery in your car to run most of these high powered mega amp. draw amplifiers.. Not a super big fan of class D amps.. If I had a high power set up in my car I'd have a dedicated LEFT and RIGHT channel with STEREO separation. Screw the MONO subwoofer setups.. SEPERATE the sides to get STEREO SOUND! I might not be as impressive for sub. shaking output but it'll sound a lot better if your listening to Rock & Roll!
Those loose winding really worry me in such a high vibration environment. Won’t take much to run through that lacquer.
Apparently new ones are wound better that’s what I’m told
@@wal I sure hope so
Would hot glue help in that situation? To basically encase them in?
@@poopool_Q if I had one of these (or any amp) and the windings were loose i'd hot glue em... Or put epoxy on there.
Even without bass, vehicles vibrate...
@@poopool_Q use a neutral cure silicon in the middle hole and around the top. you can run a bead around the base as well. doesnt take long to do. let it cure about a day or 2 and your good to go
Throw 4 of those in a 60's Rambler. Talk about cracking skulls. Still cheaper than builds with way less power 20 or 30 years ago when even I was young. I envision Darth Sideous saying power, unlimited power...
Another great vid from Big D @ Williston Audio Labs & I'm outta heerrre!!
*These TeamPie amps seem to be a great buy for bassheads! I've yet to see anyone who has bought one say anything negative about the TP amps. The TP & new JP amps are the new kids on the block who really have my attention. One of them will be my next amp purchase unless I end up buying a Smart5 to replace my Smart3 for my single 18 build.
JP amps coming up soon. Imna test them ALL!!
@@wal yes I stay watching all your content brother! Now I have to figure out which lithium to go with so I can finally install my large amps. Big D I feel so lithium dumb... Smh
I have 3 teampie 7500 and one jp83 both amps are bad ass amps had teampie bout 2 years jp83 bout 6 months.Only this bad to say about teampie is they are huge and very heavy. Other then that bad amps. I have not hooked up bass knobs.
Daaaaaamn
That .8 ohm test was nuts!
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Almost 10k! Wowzers!
With even more dynamic!
For your efficiency on this test , you had 4 runs of 1/0 for power and ground , it seems as though you only x3 your measured current, should it not have been x4 ?
Just confused, I watch all your videos your the best
It has triple inputs and I used 2x 1/0 per input so 6 total 👍
EMF, Jones Subwoofer Solutions and Power Hogg Audio are buying these straight from Teampie and rebranding them with their own logo and selling them. I'm not knocking them for doing so... just letting you know that they are exactly the same amp but with the rebranding comes a higher price tag than buying directly from Teampie. My 5500 just arrived today and I can't wait to get it installed.
I mentioned this, just not all the names. Nothing different than a lot of car audio companies honestly
i would add some silicon to reduce the chance of failure due to vibrations. its a cheap preventative measure that alot of amps lack but one that can be fixed easily and pretty cheap considering what we pay for the amps.
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The factory is now doing exactly that.
Can you test the JL Audio JD500/1 amp dyno?
its a little more power but its a 5 ohms until 1.5 ohm.....500wrms at 5 ohms is alot of power
This has got to be the best amp I've ever seen
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Love your content brotha! We're from the same Era so I can completely relate! Any way you can do some amp testing on DS18?..looking into buying 1 to match up with 2 shallow 12s. Thanks man!
You accidentally did the .08 ohm test uncertified at 1ohm. Great dyno video on the teampie
I sho did! Updated pinned comment doe
@@wal I really enjoy your video's but not a fan of the flea market amplifiers but everything else including wheelie Williston is great
The big boys are back in town!
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As much as I like Big power? I think I will stick with MTX. Why? The one time I gave them a call, they answered the phone, and even said " just send in your amp in, we can fix it". THAT WAS IT. I was a customer for life.
And they just look great. I mean sold construction etc. But the fact that you have a question, and it gets answered? Hats of to them!
I love chinese gear, and when your use amps as tools, like for SPL? Great value, and great power at a price you can afford to buy spares? Easy to repair? Its a no brainer.
Looks and performance for me go hand in hand. And I like knowing that if something does go wrong with a custom install? I can call the company for a repair. That really matters to me. Custom installs are a mess if you install them just for the space, so having a solid company behind the amp really makes a difference for me.
I like American made / Built hardware. Glad I'm in the point in my life where I can get made in USA gear when the need arises. Its pricey. But I tend not to let go of old hardware. As each has a story. I'm bit sentimental with things I buy.
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Added to the bucket list 😁😁
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This amp is remarkably similar to the EMF audio 7500 Watt amp. Virtually identical. And the EMF amp is priced at about $1,400. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Great video!! I know what amp I buying next!
Why wouldn't u leave the clip limit off for all the tests? I'm sure all the tests would've been different. That's why it didn't count up smooth on the first 2 tests.
Clip limit was disabled for all tests except the ones I show it enabled (1 ohm)
I'd love to see a dyno on the ampere 7500.1
Thanks for the suggestion
12:41 you said .8 but you ran it at 1 ohm, that’s why it got less than the .8 before it
You don't need 4 AWG speaker wires with this kind of power. 9500 watts RMS at 1 ohm is equal to 97 amps RMS. Given that the run from amp to subs is generally only a few feet, that is within the current capacity of 8 AWG copper. And given that an amplifier will basically never clamp more power than it can do on the Dyno, that's plenty of headroom
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that amp is BEAST MODE
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275 PER LEG x3 No it is really Supposed X 4 with the dual input but maybe I'm wrong 👍👀👍
Please watch for an explanation czcams.com/video/WBJq296Ks3g/video.html
Even the 5k model bumps.its around $550 shipped .it will punish 4 good subs.good video bud
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Damn back in the 80s this amp would have been a dream someone thought up !
The price is insane!
Now if subs would quit being as big as manhole 🕳 covers !
Yeah this thing would’ve costed $25000 back then!
I use this amp on 4 half ohm subwoofers and the device is working normally. I hope you will do a half ohm load test for us so that we can see what is the capacity for the amp dyno
Half ohm on the Dyno is not something I’d try with this amp. Wiring speakers to half ohm would result in 0.8-1 ohm rise in most cases with most music. I was shown after my vid by a tech my amp doesn’t have the over protection diode and this is concerning
@@wal This amp has four ways protect over voltage, over current, over temperature, and output short circuit.
@@princeofbass304 this amp more then likely doesn't have a quality part in it in all honesty. If you have rise it'll handle half ohm. When I was wired at 1 ohm I only had 0.4 rise so I wouldn't risk it with an amp not made to be ran like that with counterfeit parts. It'll work for a little while, but will it be working in 5 years is what I think of
@@michaelmosher7902 Your words are respected, but now I have said it for a month and there has been no problem so far
Ok. So stack as many of those kicker box's as you can in your trunk, with proper load of course and use that amp!
Love my Creampie CIP-7900❤❤❤
Noticed on extras segment that the uncertified was at 1ohm not 0.8ohm
Oh for real? Oops
@@wal it happens. Thanks for all the videos. 👍👍
I went to the site and couldn't find any links to see how much they even sell their amps for. How would someone even buy one of their amps?
I used Alibaba, but they have contact info to buy the amps. It’s a bit of a pain honestly
You had the dino set on one ohm On the clipping test
Good catch 🤙
They still use master/slave instead of primary/secondary?...
Wouldn't your efficiency be off because of the voltage difference? If the amp was designed for 14.4 or 14.1v then giving more juice would change the efficiency %?
I was referring to measuring current in one input vs all 3 at once
I wanna know what spl this gets on the kicker quad box at full tilt....should be ok power wise after box rise right?! And if not kicker would send u replacements anways right? Full send it on the quad box!!
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These are great amps. Just take it chances with the warranty, and if u r not running proper electric, you WILL get to see the magic pixie smoke!!
This!
The shape of the heat sink reminds me of lanzar opti amps. 😉👍
Yeah kinda 🤔
Why do you prefer the Tiffany style RCA's? Also, is there any signal advantage between the two?
Tiffany style or panel mount RCA's are more robust as far as pushing cables on and pulling them off. The other style is soldered to the pcb and over time the stress can crack the solder joints. Its not that big a deal, but the panel mounts have a small advantage.
Jason’s comment nailed it!
Takes power to make power. That’s right!
100%
Nice video bro keep up the goods ✌️🔊
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Cab45 review please
Anyone know what max voltage on these is? Will this amp tolerate 16.2V?
15.2
12:40 not sure if you noticed that was set at 1ohm and not .8 ohm like the previous test. Would explain that lower number I think
Updated pinned comment. My bad
@@wal your good bro, no apologies needed. Love the videos either way
D4s jp amps in a different case?
UPS man must be listening to them
No, Team Pie does not make the D4S amps. They are using the same amp design, though.
Stinger wire for the win 🏆 💪🏽
Not bad considering you can get 2 of them shipped to your front door from China for $1500
But if you have issues you need to find your own tech
I bought 3 of those and a 2k a couple of weeks ago. Its going to be a long 3 month wait.
Oh wow, 3 months now?
@@wal It might not take that long. They said up to 60 days to ship out and I got the slow shipping for $324 because the fast shipping was $880.
Test the 2/4 ohm with out the limiter on. I bet it makes rated a 1%. I bet the limiter kicks in at .1%
Hey big D what would it take to wire a speaker impedance to get .8 or .5???
Depends on your setup, so nearly impossible to guess. So many factors including box, speakers, environment, frequency, etc.
Can we see a video of the vital power and this one linked together?
The Vital Power has been returned to its owner
The cab 45 is the same amp as a Mr music man 3800.all teampie,and I love em
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Just to be clear, those 2 brands are not made by Team Pie.
@@JasonWW2000 you sure? I believe they are,I own a few and have talked with the liaison from China about this
@@ogairbender808 A lot of people just assume they are the same due to them using the same basic design copied from yet another amp. I believe I researched the two brands mentioned above and found they are not made by Teampie.
You can only get these by messaging teampie directly? I don't see online purchase options on their website and I haven't found any retailers for them.
Correct. You can buy direct from China for the best price or buy from a US retailer who has already imported a batch of them. These will cost more, but you'll get it quicker. So far, Jones Subwoofer has the best prices on them.
Yea I had to purchase through Alibaba and wasn’t a fan of the process.
At least we know your human! Nice video Mr Wiz!
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That’s not bad at all. I’ll wait to find one second hand hopefully to try out.
I’ll sell dis one or trade for cool old skool 😝
On the extras your uncert test was at 1ohm not .8 but otherwise good vid. Thanks for the hook up Big D
Yeah big dummy here. I updated the video description with the corrected info
@@wal You still da man doe for putting us on game !!!
Love videos! Thank you!!!!
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I love how he always teases us with the guts 🤣
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What % THD is considered clipping?
Their YT Channel is sweet too
Where did you pick your 7500 up from? Definitely looking for something like that, haven’t heard anything bad about them
Slapz audio $850 it's a monster,I love it more than my 2 jp33s for sure
@@markroberts715 Ill let em rip for 799 shipped
Hey, check out your vid of the 0.8ohm test 12:43 you tested the uncertified at 1 ohm again, NOT 0.8!~ (Insert Big Dummy clip here)
9624W at 0.8 Clipping
"These windings on my amp are loose."
Well you're in luck because we're going to fix it for the next guy! I mean, your amp is still messed up, but think of the next guy.. lol.
I was told by the mfg after I pointed it out. I bought this amp, wasn't paid for the video, so I was just passing along information
@@wal yeah I saw the tag in the video, just kind of sucks for you since you bought it with your own money and it's messed up. I've dealt with a few companies over the years that gave me the "thanks for letting us know, we'll make sure to correct this in the future line" and I'm like, awesome, but what about mine?!
@@Thezuule1 Sweet, But what about mine. Dude ohh wait that was a movie. I hate companies that do that without offering an exchange at least. Because if you fix it and it fails they may not warranty it even if it is ultimately the same solution they had.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r DUDE, what does mine say?!
@@Thezuule1 yeah I agree. In this case I don't use amps like this so I'll most likely sell locally, so someone else will have fun with it...
So u might get the 7.5k at 12.6 for 900 not bad at all
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why does your efficiency calculation look goofy all the time, idk how you got 87pct or where the 153.9 came in for 4 ohms?
Wattage vs sound q. It's always a question
So this amp... Is the same amp as a deaf bonce AAK 8000?
Cause... They look the same.
Could be a copy, I haven’t seen the dB amp to compare
My tp4k has loose windings
I want one. think my 15 inch L7's could handle them at 1 ohm?
Oh Lawd 🤦♂️
ummmmm...no....
@Williston Audio Labs, You trying to sell it? I ordered one but now I'm thinking I might need another. xD
I was planning on letting it go…but shipping it gonna be a beast
@@wal That's no issue, I can cover shipping charges. Just reach out if you decide you wanna sell it. Thanks!
Is this true RMS power? Or is it instantaneous peak power? Either way, your DC supply needs to be hundreds of amps. Not long before your car battery is flat, it's like running the starter motor non stop.
Yes all tests RMS power. I have a large lithium battery bank capable of 1500A or more pulls at 15VDC
@@wal Incredible. About 25 years ago I fitted a 500W system. Loved it, I could feel my hair moving with the bass, and all mirrors blurred with bass beats. Went into a shop, left my daughter in the car and she hammered it. When I got back to the car, flat battery. Manual gearbox so I managed to push start it.
Wolfram 3k was like that. Sad at 4, so so at 2, but blew it out at 1.
They just use the wrong ratings. Thats all. Nothing to do with the amp.
Have ever heard of a Ground zero amp?
Sure have, not tested one yet tho
Why do you use the overlap for the gain?
It's how you setup an amp to be tested with the Amp Dyno using the DD-1 plus
@@wal I see. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Keep up the awesome vids
It is gain matching- think of the gain as a matching tool not a volume tool. If you are under the overlap less power over on overlap and you clip the amp. Clipping is when the audio wave gets clipped of making it square instead of being round and smooth. I.E. clipped square waves actually turn the voice coil in to a heater coil sticking it at the top or bottom of the stroke. If clipped long enough the coils glue will burn and then you have a slinky or in worst case a fire. It is more complicated than that. But as a simple example there you go.