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- LISTEN TO BLACK WOMEN is an iOne Digital series providing a uniquely safe space to discuss powerful and pertinent issues impacting Black women across the globe. From small business ownership and Bitcoin, to beauty regiments, body positivity and out-of-the-box bedroom behavior... no topic is too taboo on this table. LTBW is the place where Black women from all walks of life can essentially “let their hair down” and speak freely about love, life and the changes they want to see in the world...
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My conclusion from watching this video is we need to listen to married black women. Because these monolith echo chambers of celebrity women on these platforms aren’t helping anyone. I am married, my momma is still married to my dad. My grandparents are still married/widowed. All my male and female cousins are married. It’s not easy but these videos aren’t helping. Listen to a vetted counselor, family members in a solid marriage of over 20 yrs, or a family friend. I want black couples to win and succeed like my family but this ain’t it fam.
The Black Love channel is mainly that. This channel is mainly geared towards single black ppl...mainly bw...but black ppl as a whole.
@@jayc5756 this is still a conversation by single people that only hits such a niche demographic and the people having a discussion of anything are not the best people to speak on relationships. And panels of single men have similar content/conversations online too that are cringeworthy as well. I think some people just want to hear themselves talk.
Women that don’t want to be married discussing relationships in an echo chamber. Great stuff here 😏😂 y’all can be as high powered as you want ladies, if you want marriage get on his program. Or join these Sistas in single solidarity 🤝🏿
The woman in the white dress is speaking the truth as it pertains to independent, educated black women in today's society. They do not always lead by choice, but by default. 💯
you and that dude in the white dress need to quit with your nonsense
To Ebony's point at 13:20, the black community is trapped in a superficial caricature of black masculinity. A tall, hypermasculine felon will be treated better than a new college grad in almost every setting. Ebony and the cast could showcase the 2024 black male law school graduates, but they don't hit the radar for some reason 🤔. These guys exist, why not lift their voices and publicly praise them? I've experienced this first hand. When I graduated from an ivy with a STEM degree, it garnered me respect in every community but ours
Weaves, wigs, and excuses…that’s all I see and hear
Not a man in sight.
"I don't really want to be burdened by the responsibilities..."
Or any of these women certified a license to teach , psychology, anthropology, or culture?
Absolutely
Kevin Samuels literally did all the shit that Eboni talked about at the end of the video yet black women hated him 😂
Fact check your comment about women not having bank accounts until 1976. That is my age group and I have no memory of the women in my family not having their own bank accounts. I've had one since I was 16 years old.
13:30-How is Eboni Williams gonna have a call to action for black men to step up and speak to black men but when Kevin Samuels was doing that, all these BW had a problem with it?🤔
Kevin Samuels was a clout chaser. If you notice, most women respond to Umar Johnson. He has the educational background to say similar things as Kevin, without the backlash from women. He gets his backlash from men because they don't want to hear his words
@@meschellewilson8046 I hear ya...but Umar proved to be in the same boat when a few months back, he tried to group Eminem in something and label him a culture vulture cause he's white...but not the real culture vultures in our community. He only said Em cause he was 1 of the biggest white rappers in the game. That's when Umar lost his credibility for me. But it is what it is.
Yes, we need MORE BLACK MEN to step up & teach these other black men how to lead, effectively communicate, willingly heal, take accountability & most importantly have faith in the creator throughout it all.
So... basically - make sure your kids have a good father in their life. That's who is supposed to teach boys how to be men. It's not on the "community."
@@kevinc3342 even with a good father, it takes a village.
@nikirenneechambers No... no village. It's father, mother, and the children all TOGETHER in the same home. The "village" has no obligation to YOUR children. Anything other people do for you is charity, and that includes family, friends, and anyone else who helps your family. Don't give your responsibility to others - you CANNOT count on outside help!!
@@kevinc3342 who said that. Your reaching. We are here on earth to love one another & learn. My point was as black men if you come across another black man help, guide, assist &/or etc.
@nikirenneechambers Again... FATHERS teach boys how to be men. Other men can help and ONLY if they want to, but it's not their responsibility. Don't expect random men to mentor YOUR sons!!
Very interesting. 🤔
The uncomfortable and disappointing truth is that when you mistreat someone for so long that they will inevitably develop coping mechanisms to survive without you. As a black man who is HAPPILY married, the reality is that black, white, Asian, African, Hispanic or whatever race of woman you want to interject will ALWAYS follow a good man who is worth following. Healthy leadership in the black community used to be celebrated and touted as valuable and desirable. Not so much today. Listen to your favorite rapper. Watch your favorite social media influencer. Where do we challenge, celebrate and encourage black men to lead in a healthy and loving way? We literally just eviscerated J. Cole for apologizing publicly. We didn't want to see that man troubleshoot his poor behavior and ideologies in real time. Black women have been hard, rough and tough because unfortunately black men have tossed them, dragged them and dogged them and they are refusing to take it any more. Now, with all that being said. It does not excuse a lot of the gender wars, toxic biases and destructive behavior of some women who refuse to allow men to be the healthy men that they are. But I do understand the circumstances that have brought us to where we currently are.
I like your thinking in general. I would add “a certain kind/type of women” will always follow a good man. Let’s not act like there are not women out there who run through good men. For whatever reason (and there are many) and if men are honest, we all have a story about that one who broke our heart. Or, we know a man, who was a good man and he chose his mate poorly. You alluded to it, but this happens way more than we want to admit. I think the answer lies somewhere in middle, where we have men who want to exercise healthy leadership and women who want to appreciate that leadership in a healthy way. Not according to the masculinity she feels/operates out of in her core. That’s not healthy…
Women will follow a good leader. If she doesn’t, then leave her alone. You can’t redirect the conversation to what women will and women won’t do, when you haven’t taken responsibility as a leader. Real leadership is owning the outcome, good and bad. There will always be rebellious people, but I doubt you really wanted to partner and work with them anyway.
The cooperative women who want the support will follow. The women that are desirable will police themselves at that point.
@@ninagrace-lee8323 That's not true though. Almost all of the best leaders in any race would be considered "corny" by black women, making them undatable. Any black man with an engineering degree knows exactly what I'm talking about
@@ninagrace-lee8323And we need more virtuous women who appreciate men and are not misandrist. Using laws to their advantage because they are bitter and hate men. Men tend to stay motivated and work hard to protect and provide when there are precious and virtuous women appreciating them and cheering them up. The opposite happens when women are not virtuous and call men trash and useless. Also saying they feel safer with a bear than a man. I am not protecting or providing for any random woman who is giving the chance, will call me gay, dusty, brokie, trash, toxic because I told them truth or they are not getting what they want from me.
BUFFALOES DETERMINES HOW LIONS OPERATE!
I’m sure you made a good quote but this shit too long lol 😂
Unfortunately, this comes down to simple math and modern women’s ability or inability to adapt to a changing volatile market. Simply put, the men you want are rare. There are only so many Michael B. Jordan’s to go around. On the other hand, the women we’re attracted to, and have access to, are in every city. Ladies, businesses that don’t listen to their primary consumers, go under. Some of us are pulling for you. But, you’ll have to reduce those wish lists and soften up.
The real issue I see here and in a lot of these types of discussions is that there is a mentality that exists and has been bought into. In other words, these types of ladies like the psychology of what they’re saying. They want to be this way. They will say I want to be pretty, or I want to be pink and soft. But, all you have to do is look at their body language, tone, voice inflections to see that they are acting in bad faith. To become that which they say they want, would require them to do a 180 change. Which I believe they really don’t want to do. Because, it would mean they have to change from something they actually like, to something they dislike, just in order to get what they want. I don’t care what situation/scenario you put up against that, it’s going to be a struggle. IMHO, I think that a fair, open, direct and brutally honest discussion needs to be had (by all sides) to examine what we have actually bought into. I’m married 36 years, but what I see out there looks pretty bleak…
What you are speaking to is a problem with men. You want a woman to come into a situation relaxed and guard down. Foolish. Those women are taken advantage of and abused. For me, a man has to earn my respect in the same way I have to earn his. I'm independent until I meet a man reliable enough to depend on. He should move in the same way.
How are they acting in bad faith? Nothing they said was slander or disrespectful. If women are allowed to express their opinion and experiences, then we should be prepared to handle the discomfort that comes with that.
You’ve been married for +20 years right? So you have no idea what single women are experiencing because you haven’t been one for a very long time. Maybe you should listen to understand vs police these women and their way of expressing themselves.
You can rest in feminine nature with the right men
My current men allow me to be feminine
It only occurs when you don’t have to fight at home, at work and in the streets
And we can rest in our masculinity when we find the right woman😂
#1) The average black woman in America is making roughly $40K annually. the average black woman in America isn't walking around here making $200K+ a year. If so they wouldn't be asking for money every time someone turns around.
#2) sure women had to depend on a man to survive. But it was up to the men to also make sure they took care of the family as well. It was the men who were out there dying on the battlefields of the civil war and Nazi Germany in World war II. In Ukraine right now. The women were allowed to leave the men had the stay and fight. So this idea that men had it all fuzzy and warm while women were slaves is. . Whatever.
But my main point i want to hit on is this. I'm perfectly fine with women being independent. But what women fail to understand is that every action is a reaction. And the thing is... Men simply don't have to be men of old anymore. Men shouldn't have to be providers and protectors anymore. Women should have to register for the draft. I tell men all the time. Do whatever makes you happy. If playing video games all day makes you happy... do it. If you're happy living a minimalist lifestyle...That's perfectly ok. Me, personally, I think marriage should be outlawed. That way everybody is forced to stay single. That pretty much solves a lot of problems. Everybody is forced to fend for themselves. 😆
Imagine if women let go of traditional ideologies created by patriarchy, quite having these repetitive conversations leading nowhere, and just said...... fuck it! What is my purpose and passion outside of a man? What relationships can I build outside of "romantic"? 🤔
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13:35 "I can't name one". Really? So there's no single man out there who's talking to Black men about masculinity that you know of?!?! You're lying.
Im trying to ease a black woman life some in this lifetime like i would want her to help ease mines.
Yeah, I dont get into the gender wars thing At All.
Ebony is right. The Iyanla Vanzant discourse was hilarious because Ebony was never wrong. She’s light skinned and beautiful, very accomplished, and is telling us what other women of her caliber are seeing. It’s anecdotal but supported by evidence. It’s just falling on deaf ears
The only way Black women would ever accept what Ebony is saying is if a man said it. If a black man (not even an attractive one) said EXACTLY this, he would be praised. Because it’s actually the truth - there’s a dearth of Black men. And no matter how black women perform femininity, you are not promised a man. Many BW will continue to be single whether they are masculine or not. I believe the latest marriage rate might be 28% for BW? Fact check that please.
It’s sad but I believe many BW don’t want to be pessimistic about their reality so they cling to cognitive distortions or delusions. When the truth is obvious and universal. Even white people are noticing the dropping birth rate and low marriage rate - they’re just doing something about it. While we are debating what Ebony is saying, other communities are implementing public policy. Clearly THEY know the implications of what she’s discussing
And we need more virtuous women who appreciate men and are not misandrist. We have seen feminist movement, women like Oprah and shows dunking on men as if the technologies transmitting them to tv and machines producing their dresses and make up to cover up stuff are not made by men. Women using the privileges to their advantage against men because they are bitter and hate men.
Men tend to stay motivated and work hard to protect and provide when there are precious and virtuous women appreciating them and cheering them up and stick by their men in their down moment. The opposite happens when women are not virtuous and call men trash and useless. Also saying they feel safer with a bear than a man, they are independent and need no man and a man cant tell her nothing....
I am not protecting or providing for any random woman, who when given the chance, will call me gay, dusty, brokie, trash, toxic because I told them truth or they are not getting what they want from me. I am not providing and protecting in a finesse culture era where women are rampantly taking good men for granted. As soon as the men goed into hard periods, these women will jump ship and say, "I had a good man but he wasn't good enough ".
Until women starts being in their place, men will see them as equals and they will have to do everything by themselves as they say. Period.
BUFFALOES DETERMINES HOW LIONS OPERATE!
We like these four together
Only Eboni seems to have the range to have these discussions. Please replace the other panelists with black women who specialize in these discussions. There are so many of us and we are not monolithic in thought. Maybe rotate the panelists depending on the topic.
thats what they do
@@bigmed71 they should have did it for this topic. The majority of the panel for THIS topic did not have the range to discuss it. I’m sure they may do great work on other topics. The producers failed on this one.
Ebony and Dr. Umar should talk! A series with them would be great for our community.
😂😂🤣😂⁉️
True
It’s a great conversation-
As a black man in his 50s-
Listening I would say our-
Women want to see what -
It’s like,, in there rolls today.
In a manner-
Offering
You earthier
Talk about people
Talk about events
Talk about solutions
Othello The Entertainment 4-28-2024 8:56 pm
Omg shut up!
304's
Mylessa ford for sure that was the profession of her youth.
Black woken just need to be lesbians . Yal would do better with studs
I have said everything Ebony said and it sucks. I’ve been submissive and vulnerable all the things men said and they still took advantage soooo I just laugh when they talk now 😂 I’m working on it but I know at this point I cant live in delusion so follow I will not 😂
At what age did you begin to be submissive and vulnerable. Western women tend to do that when their time is ticking and the men know😂😂. It's only fair when you where submissive and vulnerable when younger. I could say you encountered bad Men. But when you do that at old age, men see that as tricking😂😂
RIP Kevin Samuels .
Why are you here dude??
Nobody is listening to any of you smh. This is 100% destructive and they think it’s dropping knowledge. A lot of contradictory statements being made
Sir! You don`t have to be here. Change your channel and exit left. Byeeeeeee! 😶🙄
Bottomline is that this a new age. Those age old notions of gender and role are DEAD. Women had poor examples of independence because of the lack of choices ALL women have had to endure since the dawn of time. I don't need a woman to cook amd clean for me. I don't want or need a submissive wife. I don't want a lazy woman who has 3 kids by 3 different men expecting me to handle all of the bills. FOH!! I want an equal partner, NOT a headache!!
In America BW abort 38% of their babies. They glorify Baby Mama Culture, 78% unwed mothers, and are getting worse.
Please research THE NEGRO PROJECT from white woman Margaret Sanger.
They war against Mothernature herself.
Didn't Ebony K. end a four to five-year relationship with an Anglo-white man, and mostly chase WM for years? So... she ended up with a WM who was a "man in a skirt?" That's my takeaway from her situationships. Ebony K. is terrible at choosing men... ALL races of men.
I hear a lot of opinions, but no logic and supporting evidence
dang I did not really see anything except the dude in the white dress hollering. Had my hand on the fast forward button the whole time just to skip the sound of that chainsaw voice.