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As a successful brother, I can’t show up with my fellow VPs with a woman with yellow hair and neon nails. It would immediately downgrade my corporate brand and limit the opportunities. I know some may not understand, but this is how it goes.
I'm with you. These bw need to stop lying to each other. Clearly, it's leading them astray!
Spot on brotha…definitely
How about she wouldn't have yellow hair and green nails on that particular day you are with your VPs. The color of those things could change with a simple request!
@@credred1793 Great point, but I would never ask a woman of this age to change who she is at this point. The colors are expressive and that is part of her personality. When I was younger, my wife and I grew together along with our preferences. I may be too conservative for a person like her. Honestly, sometimes people are just not a good fit for each other and there is nothing wrong with either person.
She's only one out of four on that panel with that color hair, and I'm pretty sure that she wouldn't wear that color hair to a corporate event, because that is something that could easily get changed!
Why not actually have a panel of black women who are actually in successful relationships discuss the topic ? Instead have a panel of women who have been unsuccessful talking about what it takes to be successful
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Facts.
Ohhhhhhh facts!!!!!
Exactly. A panel of single women who failed to develop successful relationships with men dishing out advice. And the reality is, deep down these young women don't want to be them. Also she said passport bros is about dating out. Not true. Last time I checked Africa and South America are filled with black women.
Its all about cope and not actual desire for results but a desire to be right.@@chichim2020
Remember ladies, the host is the girl that once called Michael B Jordan “corny”!!
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🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Doofy chicks
No she didn’t. Her cohost did. She only interjected that he used to bring his headshot to high school.
@@whayes8084no it was her, Loreal and she doubled down afterwards
@@MarvelousJP Bruh no it wasn’t.
@@whayes8084 the video is out there when she interviewed him but ok you got it champ
I love how she straight up acknowledged the fact that the panel represented a preference in the black community and how this still affects them and will affect dark skin women at a much higher number. Many don’t want to acknowledge that first statement ever.
Facts! 👏🏽👏🏽
Lol whew Chile she named the privilege and they were gagged lol I agreed with Melissa tho
What was the discomfort at naming the obvious about?
Because they like to benefit from preference privilege without it being exposed@@bl00dhoney
Agreed alot black men are colorist associate dark with less lighter mixed as better which is a lie. Go where ur celebrated if Chad want you go to chad
Every panel, every Kendra G show, every Ashley dalton show, every Steve Harvey show, every Oprah show just names THREE categories to be a man attractive, tall, and wealthy. Yall fought for equality but not willing to step into the provider role, not our issue. “Where are the men teachers” if I had to be demeaned for my career choice the way women today judge anyone that’s an average earner, why would I jump to ANY of those fields? Deal with the consequences and stop complaining. YAll simultaneously complain about wage gap but expect the same man in your same field to out earn you? How does that make sense in yall head?
Sir,
Men make more money than women in any field.
That's what y'all like to say when black women say that they (black women) are more successful than black men.
I think the issue with a woman in a provider role is the man they want typically dont want to be in a submissive role or be provided for. There are men who are ok being provided for but thats not the type of men they desire. They generally would only provide in a temporary fashion until the man can take over and a man who thrives to be a provider is not as comfortable being provided for. He will feel more comfortable sleeping on a couch and work his way into the lifestyle he provides
They want hypergamous equality
Nope we fought for equity not equality
@@kw8443most women would not admit this. They would say they are fighting for equality but thats not they want. They also know its very hard to demand equity without putting in the same level of value. So its the equality of opportunity to receive the same equity.
Sorry but having a panel of ONLY light skin and mixed women discussing a black woman's worth doesn't sit well with me at all. I swear it feels like society in general (beyond just this video) is dead set on making this the face of black women and completely erase those of us that actually do represent it! And I'm speaking of not just skin color but actual DNA! Sorry if I upset anyone but it's upsetting because it seems to be everywhere!
Don’t apologize boo you’re telling the truth lightskin and biracial women do not represent bw so they shouldn’t be up there.
You're not alone in this. I notice it and it bothers the hell out of me. That's why bw with traditional "black" features (i.e darker skinned, kinky hair, broad nose) have to work overtime to protect their/our image.
It's the new representation of black women...that's who the media wants to push to the forefront.
I'm light skinned and even I can see this. All I can say is sorry you have to experience this, it's wrong- the erasure and gaslighting of dark skinned women on so-called Black platforms is so blatant.
@Singer_and_Songwriter
And don't forget the fact that they are all 6 figure to millionaire tax bracket. They live a different life style.
The blind leading the blind
Facts
yup lmaoooo
I SWEAR!!! omg!!!!
@dialac1 And walking backwards..
😂😂😂
Remember when the lady with the yellow hair said her and her friends use to clown MBJ in school calling him corny, keep in mind he was on the wire or just got casted, Mel was an video vixen that Cam'ron said Ice T smashed in a bathroom for 2 bands, Eboni already had the white husband. So yellow hair use to call good ninjas corny while smashing bum ninjas, mel was selling box, and eboni had been married twice and this is who they listen too
Benzino said he scraped Mel out too...should she have married into that Source money!
Eboni Williams have evolved period
So true!
Exactly
Same old story. They don’t even believe what they say. They just know it gets them views.
Imagine if they had a panel for white women and proceeded to put half-white biracials on the seats.
😂
But white panels do this anyway, beige brigades are replacing dark skinned bw. They would rather show a light bright 3c-4a haired 1/2 black.
A lot of biracial women mixed with Black see themselves as Black
Its coming, as the world is becoming beiger by the day. BM are non dark-skining their way out of the gene pool with these beige babies. Imagine picking up a child thats doesn't look anything like your dark skin or hair, but is more ACCEPTABLE than you? Talk about stockholm syndrome .😫
What would be different?
As a married man that would considered successful by being in the top 5 percent of earners, I pray that as many people as possible experience the beauty of a healthy marriage. The women that know me ask, “where are the god-fearing, successful, faithful, emotionally intelligent men with leadership qualities. My only response is “with their wives.” If these men just so happen to enter the dating market, they are typically out fairly quick. These guys are extremely disciplined and move with purpose in every part of their life. Please ensure that the people you encounter are moving with a purpose. Unfortunately, I don’t have a great answer for women. God bless 🙏🏽
These are grown experienced women, they know what’s up. They just choose to ignore it and deflect out of pure ego…
When a man starts using female / feminist buzzwords like “emotionally intelligent” I know he’s been brainwashed by the feminist programming.
Keep it 100, real successful BM don't women with the attitude as displayed by Eboni K & Melyssa Ford. They don't want women with orange hair. Those same disciplined BM don't want women that are out of shape. Lots of women don't seem to understand this or speak out of context when referencing the desires of the men they actually want. This is not to mention, very few of them exist in normal society. The numbers simply do not work in their favor.
What nonsense are you talking about.. if money and success were what makes relationships and marriages work, we will long known about it ..
Bright Yellow Hair and Green Fingernails , does anything else need to be said ???
The blind leading the fuckin blind...
No lie.
Single women keep women single
Facts
And that Blind is BLACK MEN with NOTHING to lead with. No leadership skills… Other Races of Men are LEADING YOUR ASSES… And I’m saying this as a Married woman, no children, and my parents are still married. 😘
@@thewiseone6049And who’s keeping Single Men Single? Hmm 🤔 Especially Single Black Men… I’m married so I’m curious to ask you since you got all the answers. Seems you just don’t like what you heard in the video ☕️ 🫖
Why are these conversations always centered around what the man should do and what she refuses to do? They never addressed the real reason why they can't get the man they want. They never mention Character... its not about your race, career status, education, skin color, or even beauty etc... all of those things can get her some one for a moment and frankly using those surface level attributes as the reasons is a defense mechanism to avoid addressing character flaws that got them in this position... Its about the attitude and the willingness to be a helpmeet. Being feminine woman who's willing to give her all to a man who's willing to give his all.... their plenty of good hard working with character men who are willing to give their all but you have to desire THEM. Not on the surface level but on a personal level. Money and happiness are important but fleeting and shouldn't be the foundation. Character is long lasting that will get you thru the day to day.
They are putting their wants over their needs... plenty of successful, beautiful and educated women have found great men. The difference those women who have that, typically are more pleasant to be around and sacrificed to be there...
Black women has ALWAYS changed for black men for MULTIPLE generations.
Black men have NEVER IMPROVED their treatment of black women in relationships throughout multiple generations.
Black men have gotten WORST!
In past generations a bad husband would STILL take care of his family financially.
Today, MODERN black men are horrible husbands AND they don't provide for their families well.
So...why should black women continue to bend over backwards for black men??!!
@@nmhoskinsI don’t think we as black men should be defined by the actions of some of us. It’s not fair to generalize like that, and by generalizing you close yourself off to some great men
@@bestevery3891 Black men ALWAYS generalized black women.
Black men think that most black women are single mothers. That is not true.
Black men think all educated black women are boss chicks. That is not true. Many of us are just regular professionals.
Black men think most black women are like Sexy Red. That is not true. We don't leave our homes looking like sluts.
Please don't complain about generalizations.
One of the main reasons that there are LESS black couples is due to BLACK MEN'S negative generalizations of black women.
@@nmhoskinsNegative experiences. Y'all won.. This is the result of Feminism and so called equality. Now most bdubs aren't worth marrying. For every action there is a reaction. Men will not fold or break. Get in line or be alone.
This was so well put i couldnt have said it better. They keep defaulting to ANYTHING but the things black men actually complain about.
Where is the black women at lol
Lol exactly cause all I see are mixed looking bw. 😂
This is an ignorant comment
The women are black, even if light skinned
@LadyK007 There are biracial women this are not black women.
@@LadyK0073/4 are literally biracial 😂 whoever set up the panel had to have been trolling lmao
I only have been married since 1974 and am here because someone I listen to regularly played a 30 second clip and I have to see the original context. These lonely, old, well worn females are too sad to be taken seriously.
@@shonjones4070 , What you said may be funny!? I feel like Mr. Kevin Samuels at this point, " Are you trolling me???" I stated what I stated because the one thing each of these old ladies said is they want to be married. Now if you want to be single, I have no problem with that. Buy a pet and die alone. They stated with definite certainty that they want to be a "WIFE". Your S.I.G.N. language is telling of your personality. As for men of another race wanting to marry them, they have no man of ANY RACE trying to marry them. As for using a television personality as an example, t.v. personalities are not a norm. The norm are people who work hard and long to earn what they have and get paid less than $60,000 a year. As for your value, I say the value is in the family you and your spouse raise and heritage the two of you pass on. You can do as you like. I am for a better Black society which only comes from a better community, which is dependent on FAMILIES. Families of husband, wife and children. As for divorce, my grandmamas never divorced and neither did any of their sisters or female cousins. One great aunt either divorced or had a child out of wedlock and she was the one outcast. Just one question. When you say "nicer life", can you give specifics on what you mean ???
@@shonjones4070 , wow. I responded to this and now my response is not here. Interesting.
@@shonjones4070 , If you take down this response I will not respond again. First you think other races of men want Black wives. If that were true these old ladies would all be married. There are 65% of black men that have jobs that pay them under $60,000 a year. There are only 25% of Black women ever get married and these old ladies said , without any doubt, they want marriage. We are social beings and need to be with people, specifically a mate. NOT SINGLE!!! If they were fine being single why are they crying on a stage about being single. Then you mention a television/ movie personality who has NOTHING in common with hard working 9 to 5 people. Once again I ask, what do you specifically mean when you say you provide a nicer life for yourself???
@@shonjones4070 , I guess all that stuff you say is why those old ladies are crying about not being married. Could you answer my question about what you call a nicer life???
@@shonjones4070 , WOW REALLY. Well according to the Black women who destroy their marriages , the number one reason is that they do not feel happy. This black eye and arguing / fighting seems to be about 4%. They can put the fighting stuff on their declaration for filing divorce, yet hardly ever do. I call old ladies old ladies. They are all over 30 and no husband and children. So the women in your family and friends circles pick the worst 4 guys out of the 100.Maybe they need to let their fathers and uncles and brothers pick for them.
I guess the panel of women had to pass a paper bag test before being allowed on the show??
That's what I was thinking. Are the black women in the room??
I watched it until the end now. I'm glad Ebony addressed it. while the others looked uncomfortable - which I thought was strange
But are they not speaking from the sentiments of black women? I understand wanting representation in skin color, but it still does not take away from their statements regarding the suffrage of black women. If we focus so much on the nuance of black skin color rather than the message and insights spoken, we will loose focus on the message spoken and the impact, because we are so busy focusing specifically on such traits and attributes black skin color or colorist attributes, which is a disservice to black women in general. Focusing or constantly pointing out skin color does not help the plight, advancement, or attribution of black women in this context.
Edit: Because of Beyoncé and all her light-skin was saying these same exact sentiments and dialogue as these women, NOT ONE PERSON would have a problem. Picking and choosing what to be upset over does not add to help the situation of black women.
@@CZcamsReady no some of them are biracial , having a non-black parent isn't the same
Girrrrrrl! You read my whole mind
Why is there only one Black woman on this panel🤔
who is the only black women? none of them are all black
@@malimal4972 The lady in the white dress, Eboni K. Williams.
@@leahjames6870Funny. She's actually the wrong one to be listening to.
@@malimal4972 Why haven’t you gone to Build, Operate, Dominate or Control any infrastructure yet? You’re always busy in Black Women’s business 🙄🙄🙄
@@leahjames6870Even Eboni K Williams isn’t fully Black. I can see a little a lot of Creole in her.
What bothers me about these types of conversations is that we never push past the superficial. We ascribe personality and character traits to education and occupation. We are making assumptions about what a person can/can't do; have the capacity for; or bring to the table based on education and occupation. What does it signal to you if someone is Harvard educated?? Whatever the answer to that question is is what you are looking for. What does it signal to you if someone is a bus driver? Whatever the answer to that question is is what you are trying to avoid. But those things aren't always dressed up in Harvard education and bus driver packages. They come in a range of packages.
As for the racial component, yes there are a number of biases against black women. But I prefer this macro-level issue be addressed by sociology scholars because I think we drown ourselves with the macro perspective instead of focusing on our individual/micro relationship journeys.
Yes!! The ladies kept mentioning a subtext but never addressed this very important one at all!
This is the boule projecting their hatred for the poor and working class. They are hoping that the lower class black people will be bred out by working to death
They actually addressed that thoroughly, beginning with resentment, micro aggressions, abuse, & not feeling like the “man” in the relationship. This isn’t a new concept, but instead a common, historic consequence of an imbalanced male/female economic & academic dynamic.
@@realestatebykemi I agree this isn't a new concept. A very old conversation. What I meant about individual journeys, was to focus on how they can individually find the love they want not so much their past relationships.
They don’t get it. Their identities are so intertwined with their careers they are missing the bus and the driver don’t want them and their arrogant bullshit.
"They didn't go to law school so they could end up with a peer". That's not controversial. Most women would love to look up to their man. He needs to be taller, making more money, more successful, etc. You're more in love when you can really look up to him. Guys know that. Dating a woman who doesn't look up to you (a peer, by definition) is not a great experience. Neither person likes it.
The problem is the demographic don't reflect those kinds of BM being in large numbers.
Idk man I'm african. Doctors marry doctors, Engineers marry lawyers etc. Peers marry peers
@@michael43567 This makes sense.
@@michael43567 in a stable community like the African community yes. Professional African American women have a huge problem getting married to men they want though, which is why panels like this exist. In America everyone is expanding their dating options. Male lawyers are realizing they don’t have to be married to a busy, disagreeable female lawyer. Lots of guys are taking that deal.
@@Haz2288 fair
They are preferences and still alone.
Bruh who wifing up Mel after she was literally an industry jump off in the in the early 2k
And has the audacity to give advice… and bvv have the iq AND audacity to actually listen too 😂
Actions have consequences
The answer to your question is nobody
And she had the nerve to talk about the bar being in hell. Like wtf does she deserve as a 50 year old pass around.
@@eon001 over the hill options she don't like
Eboni K Williams was so off base w/saying black women are undesirable. I think there's s lack of understanding about how to get along with black men. Most black men still marry black women, that fact hasn't changed.
She is not off-base at all. There are many black men who want BW to know, aknowledge & understand that they're undesirablel; and move accordingly. They have said this verbatim & have acted it out too. They want BW to know they're not the prize.
I totally agree. Ebony hasn’t been able to get along well with any man. She’s not very feminine and she’s very competitive and highly critical of ALL men.
EBONI!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
She made a great point about how all four of them are considered the black man’s “preference” and yet, they are all single. That speaks volumes as to what is really going on in the black community when it comes to love & relationships! As a light skin, curvy girl with 2 degrees, oh honey, the black men I’ve dated couldn’t take it. I had to dim my light just to make him feel comfortable but that only lasts for so long. So, I can only imagine what the panel has or is experiencing in their dating lives.
And yes Melyssa, the bar is set to hell and it’s so unfair for black women today. 😩
I really enjoyed the first episode & I cannot wait for more! ❤
Lol. Dim ur light yeah right. More like an extremely aggressive and disagreeable woman, no man wants that headache. As u studied for those masters, get wife coaching as well or u marry ur job
I wish I’d been attracted to WM my whole life because I’ve always found them more my intellectual equal. I wasted my whole life believing I was “attracted” to BM, but it never went past physical attraction. The few who I found mentally stimulating were abusive emotionally & very noncommittal.
They're not considered Black men's preference because Black men say it.... Black women repeat that narrative and agree with each other it's true.
Their preference is non black women let’s be real. They go for three women bc they won’t get shunned by their own but still have a woman that’s “closer” to his actual preference. They say most black men are dating/married to black women but they never want to discuss what color the women usually are.
@@dnicole4236 The preference is for a better attitude, not lighter skin that is real. Black women ignore Black men saying it and try speaking on behalf of Black men.
I don't see one bw there.
I was thinking the same but I think Ebony is…the rest unfortunately are not; however, they’re mixed women.
I thought they were Asian 😮
Lmao @ 😂😂😂😂Asian
We should designate your race by the hair on your head. If that is the case we would have an increase in the Asian and Latino census (due to Brazilian, Peruvian and Indian wigs wearers of the black community) and the Black population would be cut in half.
@@errikajohnsonnope she is mixed
These women are perfect examples of lacking accountability. All single and all placing blame on others for their status of being single & unmarried. Kevin Samuels told them right . . “Buy a dog, and die alone”
Yo wtf is a progressive traditionalist? 🤣😂
delusional
Complete bullshit
A woman who wants to do whatever she wants while she has a tall, rich, handsome man to pay for everything in her life, do housework, and child rearing.
It's not a real thing
Wanting to keep a full cake but eat from it too
Welp so many of y'all wanted to insist on claiming mixed/biracial women as black for years and now you're surprised at the results. This happens in film quite often as well.
Even we eliminated biracial/mixed, there is still the issue of the black community putting lighter skin black people on a pedestal and giving them preferential treatment with Eboni being this very example. At least she admits her privilege in this clip.
Madame Noire is problematic in general having white writers doing their articles. I personally haven't cared for them to begin with, but especially would not support them now.
Been saying this since we were told Obama was the "first black president". He's MIXED!!
What's crazy to me is that these people act like we ain't been mixing all these years. They wanna pretend like the darker skinned women and men have t been wiped out.
What really bothers me is how we are expected to take the scraps and be content with it in the process. I refuse to devalue myself. I know my worth. 💯
Amen 🙏
On a scale from 1-10 what is your face fresh face out of the shower no make up
If you're worthy, you wont need to take scaps
@@skeennah1927 That's her point, they still want us to take scraps, no matter our circumstances. We refuse to take scraps because we know our worth. To them, black women are not worth it. They hate black women, especially black mothers, they don't want us to be happy, half of them want to beat us up like men & kill us.
Lol your worth is determined by the market
Eboni said no one on the panel was over a size 10 . I can’t tell . I must need glasses because Elle look like a size 12 to me . They speak like HOLOGRAMS! Not representation of the many different BLACK WOMEN . Several more conversations need to be had !!! NO SHADE !
That's the problem. There were no shades. As in color.
@@blissdad13 Only 1 feminine woman was on the panel? Did you notice which one she was?
@@buffalo.blackk I only got through 5 minutes of the horshyt video.
@@blissdad13 Three of the women did all the talking in the first 5 minutes. One of them said nothing in the first 5 minutes.
@@buffalo.blackkMy guess is you’re referring to the one who SPOKE very little and seemed like an air head. No one takes Black Men seriously to even take their definition of “Femininity” serious. Are you MASCULINE? Do you RUN a large infrastructure pipeline? 🤔
I’m like 100% sure that this is going to be a 20 minute video on the struggles of dating your way out from under poverty and systemic oppression as a Black woman with a splash of the elitism/classism we’ve come to expect from women who (regardless of means) have managed to beat the odds and become financially successful
This conflict between black men and black women is by design. I have found that the loyalty within our family has been compromised and we all need to heal. Hopefully one day we will break free from the distractions sent to divide us. We ❤ u black man and will never give up on you.
Seems every conversation tends to center around money
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@@GodHimself-bp3xw 😘
@@m.a.r.c.i.a. 🎲 blkbhichè
@@m.a.r.c.i.a. I look forward to many “ebony alerts”…. I will hit ignore EXPEDITIOUSLY
Fellas they’re all 35-50 years old. And not one engagement ring in sight. Guarantee with this mindset they’ll die Alone‼️
Im sure they are totally okay with that. They live a life you dream of.
@@Rasia-lu2ibSome of us are already living that life without the cameras. Nice assumption tho
@@Rasia-lu2ib they wouldn’t be complaining to the world about being single. And I make more than your favorite rapper and your father if you even have one ✌🏾
@@Rykam100They're "complaining" just to make money. TV is smokes and mirrors.
Ladies the men you want is few. Black men that make 6 figures can choose any women they want.
They don't want to hear this. Women think in terms of possibility, not probability. Hence why I never understood why men who make less then 100k worry. The 100k line of men have 40 women to every man. After 30 of those women know they won't be picked or taken seriously, they go down to the 80-90k line think they'll have better odds. After realizing that line is just as packed, they go down to the 60-80k line. Although not as packed, that line still has competition and expectations associated. Hence the frustration from these women. They want the best, but hate the idea of having to compete for it.
@Kemet89 Whether it’s a lot of money or not, doesn’t change the fact that only 15% of all Americans make it. So finding a man making six figures is rare, even if it isn’t alot of money. The rare part is the point.
You're naming all extreme hypotheticals. In a vacuum, money can only hide so many flaws which I agree. However, you're continue to miss the point that anybody making a 100k is rare. If you include factors like debt, child support, etc, then it makes a man who makes over a 100k and without all of those even more rare. For example, I don't have any school debt, I make over 150k, no kids, no std's, I care about appearance and hygiene a little too much if I had to be honest. So when I was single, I had plenty of options to choose from. Does that mean every women I met wanted me, of course not. It's simply about who has the advantage from simply numbers alone. It seems you don't like the idea of 100k men having this advantage and your frustration should be with the women who desire them and put that requirement. If the requirement was 50k men then 100k men wouldn't feel so cocky. As it stands, men who make over 75k are in the minority and anything in the minority always has options over the majority. Economics and marketing 101. @Kemet89
It seems as though you feel that men who make 100k shouldn't feel special. Blame that on the market demand, not then men who make it. Whether you feel it's not enough or not, doesn't take away that numbers are in favor of men who make 100k+. For example, I make over 150k, no kids, no std's, I care a lot about my appearance and hygiene. Although I look at myself as a normal everyday guy, I did notice my influx of options before I eventually met my wife. It's simple supply and demand. If demand exceeds the amount of supply, then prices go up.@Kemet89
@Kemet89Just curious, what kind of business are you involved in that generates 6 figures & which city do you reside?
Eboni K dated outside of her race. A millionaire at that. Now ask yourself, “where IS HE NOW AND WHY ISNT SHE WITH HIM?”
She was just incompatible to get him.
A man still needs to be compatible. Just having money is NOT enough.
Having money is a BARE MINIMUM requirement.
14:38 Timestamp for the colorist preference convo. Don’t let it go over y’all’s heads! Points were made.
Acknowledged a little too late in the convo for me.
she barely went into it and the other panelists did not engage
@@tanogbe6345 true. But the dialogue can and should continue.
@@DaniTInTheseYTStreetsthey didn’t have to address it at all, but they did. Give credit where it’s due!
These masculine, career oriented, unreasonably picky older single women are not the preference , hence why they are all single
I’m doing well in life and I simply want no parts of black women🤷🏾♂️. I’ll pass
They still haven't listened to Kevin Samuels 🤦🏾♂️
That loser died broke, alone & single. No sensible person would listen to that man
Don't need to. Leave his words dead and gone like he is
My favorite part is “Are you single? Yes I am single. I’m single too.
Progressive-traditionalist, WTH is that?😂
At 47 years old, unwed and single, how has her advice helped her? Why hasnt Brad come in with a cape to save her? 😂
Pure confusion
Why haven’t you Built, Operate, Dominate or Control any infrastructure yet? Hmm 🤔 I bet you’re single too. Or you’re just jealous because YOU DO NOT QUALIFY FOR HER. You seem VERY OBSESSED with Brad & Connor worrying about what they’re doing and which women they’re saving when Brad ain’t even worried about you. BRAD IS BUSY BUILDING AND DOMINATING THE WORLD 🌎 😘
@@Melanated483 what does that have to do with anything??? Just say "I dont know" if you dont have an answer. Im just simply asking a question in context of the discussion.
FYI: The majority of impoverished people in America are actually white. I know this is probably breaking news to you. Google is your friend.
@@Melanated483 what does that have to do with anything??? Im just simply asking a question in context of the discussion. If you cant answer the question just say "i dont know" instead of babbling about nothing.
keep listening to them strong independent ladies. Enjoy the single life
Elle is only 33 years old she still has a chance. She just needs to get away from the 3 losers on the panel talking the most BS.
She has no chance........She came into the industry as a new artist with great music in 2012........In 2012 she was around 21 years old and dating NBA player Iman Shumpert at the time......In 2012 Elle also had one of the best bodies and she was very much in shape!!......Look at her now and how overweight she is!! When women date very High status men, it is very difficult for them to settle for anything less than or respect a man less than that........With her weight and age now, she'll never date a high status man again
And lose at least 20 lbs
whoah , are you all this mean in real life ? .. there wasn't a single "loser" on that stage
50 lbs@@adamblack6867
😂. Men hit the wall hard as HELL tho 🤣🤣🤣
I have listened to Ms. Eboni. K. Williams so many times that i know for a fact that women like her are not looking for marriage and husbands. They are just looking for men to entertain them., their lifestyle, their hopes and dreams..
Basically, looking for a man to use
@rickyv7757 To be honest with you, I know successful men and friends that run corporations and businesses. The last thing you will ever hear them talk about is going on trips and vacations 2,3 times a year.. This will never happen with active, busy, successful people..
@openmindchannel1978 you're not lying. You have to make sacrifices to achieve those career goals.
@rickyv7757 Men understand and learn from childhood that you don't become and stay the best without continuous hard work and sacrifices. Since men are competitive by nature, they don't see vacation and going on trips as valuable because, for them, it's a waste of time, and it brings no values in what they want to achieve. As they are saying says , you don't become a LeBron, Kobe, by doing what everybody else are doing. If it was that easy to be the top 1 to 20 % , everybody would be millionaires or billionaires..
Valuable lesson to be learnt! Get your women to open up and really let her express herself. She will tell you who she is, as a man, it’s up to you to logically respond.
This was great. This deserves 3 more parts part 2 for them to finish up their panel, and 3 and 4 for dark skin sisters and curvy sisters
Ladies. I have money. Because i have money, I dont need a woman with money. I need a woman with morals. And loyalty. If YOU have money.. why do you need a man with money? If you have money and you met a guy who is great in every way except he doesnt have a lot of money why is that not good enough? He will only resent you if you hold the fact that doesnt have money over his head. If he is your husband all you have to do is open a joint bank account. And let him handle the finances. Assuming you trust.. your husband. Of course. Maybe thats the issue. Trust.. maybe the problem isnt men at all.. just food for thought...
Great video hope yall have a great day
Well put sir. They dont want to acknowledge this.
Meanwhile there was a black woman on TikTok who actually married a bus driver and she rides it for free to see her man
Good for her 😊❤ with her" Bus Driver" man
@@mfati9077 what’s with the sarcasm? I see chicks on my timeline crying about their pipes are busted lol want black men to fix it
Plumbers dont have a color. They are paid to do their job and should get out of womens faces and stay professional on the job.
Woman still complaining about not having access to rich black men or rich men in general what else is new . Do those so called high value men want you is the question your complaining about men that have options and your not one of them gets over it's and move on with your life
This panel was a echo chamber what was done like y’all still single and from the sounds of it will stay that way
Yup
Eboni k Williams kept it 💯 👍🏿
Yes she did. I will say though that white men, for those that are cool with IR, seem to be very attracted to successful black women and like the whole power couple dynamic of it all.
@porter9494thats crazy because im just brown with medium length 4C hair and when i was dating, i had no issues attracting white men. My current boyfriend is white. Most White Men go for darker skinned black women,so idk wtf you're on.
She kept it CAP...what man of means prefers a former video vixen as a wife??? I used to love Elle Varner but look at her and be honest...Lore'l has YELLOW HAIR..not blonde but YELLOW or gold or some shit...
Look at Eboni K.'s attitude...most blk women don't even want to be around a woman like her..she cappin
@bravebear6975 but she had one and said she's dated all races and she's still single
Any woman that is seriously listening to Eboni K in regards BM/BW dating dynamics is a fool. She doesn't relate to the average Black individuals & she doesn't know wtf she's talking about.
Modern narcissism & disney princess syndrome attitudes. It's fine or minor the 99 times they do it, but it's a major wrongdoing worth highlighting when men do it, knowing it does or could be used on them.
Shallowness they exhibit, they simply don't notice or acknowledge existing... But even a tiny bit from a man and it's a big negative to his character.
yall a preference but all over 40...def not a preference to black men with money😭
I i don't know many successful men who runs businesses who wants to go on vacations and trips all the time like these delusional women. Men like stability, consistency, routines and don't like unpredictability, and inconsistencies..
If it’s cross cultural & everybody else is wrong ..then maybe the answer is in the mirror. You don’t determine your value, your results do. It doesn’t matter what “I” think a woman wants, if I can’t get one to commit to me. So therefore ..I’m going to have to put away my ego & listen to someone who has what I want. Or die alone, me & my pride that is.
Might I add there are plenty of beautiful brown and darkskin women larger than a size 10 who are married. If the panel had more than 1 light skin Black woman, they'd get another perspective.
Who’s married on this panel? 💍👰🏽♀️
Exactly.
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"Nobody on here is darker than a brown paper bag, we represent a preference"......yet you all single😂😂😂😭😭
I love this convo, but it's tiring always seeing panels of racially ambiguous women. Its not real representation.
Ya’ll are so clueless and self absorbed this is train wreck tv and I’m all aboard. The contradictions are coming so fast I can’t keep up and it’s GREAT.
I get it - this isn’t a space for black women to strategize, heal, and have constructive conversations. This appears to be another platform for black/biracial women to commiserate on why they haven’t married a wealthy capitalist/elitist. I believe these conversations cause more harm than good. Young black girls don’t need to be constantly reminded that they’re not “preferred”. I’m sick of seeing beautiful educated women appear to be miserable because of not having a man. I’m sure all these women have impacted countless lives throughout their careers - let’s focus on that.
Hell, I’m sure if a wealthy good looking black man was watching this his first reaction wouldn’t be… I want to make one of them my wife. So, what’s the point
Bw are only miserable because they refuse to expand their options. Most bw only want bm. Bm are the worse performing demographic in america and yet bm are all that bw want. I have come to the conclusion that the relationship between bw and bm is one of a sadist\masochist relationship. One loves abusing and the other loves being abused.
That's kinda how I took that last statement about how the panelists fell in the "preferred" category. I agree this conversation does more harm than good. Definitely not any good. It's the same old conversation. I do believe there is a bias against black women but on the relationship front there are so many individual dynamics at play that are more likely at the root of why many women are single.
is they're so proffered, why haven't they found the perfect man for them. I know a lot of bw darker that are happily in relationship with the man of their dreams. This preferences thing is silly.
Even their audience was darker than they were, so weird. Just goes to show you, even these "preferenced" women are lonely too. If they were white, they would be housewives by 27! WW are on marriage schedules, they don't play! By 35, they are 2nd marriages, by 40, they are "retired" stay at home moms showing off massive renovated homes!
@@selfishgirlsgofirstyou know why they like saying that
IMMEDIATELY GREETED WITH A BRIGHT WIG //THIS CAN'T BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY
You must be part of the LGBTQ. You sure picked up on their hair choices quick. 🏳️🌈 👏🏽
You must be part of the LGBTQ To Even Have the THOUGHT From a SIMPLE OBSERVATION@@realestatebykemi
@timothyrobinson3938 Well, maybe not blind, but definitely DEAF or DUMB. For his shallow comment, which added not an ounce of intellect, to be all he got out of their conversation is very very telling. And very indicative of everything they spoke about, so I should be thanking both of you 👏🏽
@@realestatebykemiclassic hyena response. S.I.G.N language. No tact whatsoever.
@@realestatebykemishaming don’t work on men anymore
For a woman who dates interracially she spends a lot of time speaking on black men.
Why are men or women expected to listen to women who can not keep men. Can't really get men to date them , the worst part can't even get or keep husbands.. It's like me expecting to take me seriously when my whole life history shows am a failure at relationships..
They are all single lmaooo
Exactly!!!
I guess that's the point. They're teaching women how to be single. It's what I've come to realize.
And we all know why…BAD ATTITUDES
Thats a small minority of vocal ppl that say yall are the least desired Eboni. That lie dont even need to be addressed, cause we Know its not even true.
RIP Kevin Samuel. Shout out to Coach Greg Adams. Theses men are right. Black women are in trouble.
It's done! There is no coming back from this. Shout out to CGA and KS.
Such a shame men don’t have foresight 🤦🏾
I don't agree with these women.
I'm a well-educated woman, and I did quite well for myself prior to meeting my husband. My husband is an executive of a large company, and he is a black man with two advanced degrees. He's wonderful and so loving. He's a great leader. The reason why I had no problems getting married was because I am pleasant, kind, nice, fit, feminine, friendly, and I work out. I don't have a negative attitude, and I understand that the disposition of a woman really impacts a man especially when you are married or trying to get married. These women need to be taught how to be feminine women. They need to be taught how to respect men. My husband doesn't have to compete with me. He knows that I fully respect him. If he makes a decision and something doesn't work out, I don't bash him and berate him. Furthermore, I don't treat him like my son. He is my man, not my child. There's a lot more that I could say about this, but I just feel as though it won't matter.
I'm grateful for my mother and father who taught me via actions how to be a woman, a wife and a mother.
These are fighting words to most bw
@@nickjones3860 I am sure, but the truth often is.
You are a rare gem. You have experienced what most of us will not. I'm a 54 yr old bm and I have been pretty successful in my sales career and it's so bad out here that I'm starting to think, I will end up alone. Western women are destroying the American family. Smh
Best wishes to you, your husband & your family. May you all live long healthy, prosperous lives 🙏🏽
@@shonjones4070 the irony in your entire post but especially about men needing to get in the gym 😂. As a competitive fighter that lifts & does cardio 5-6 days a week your demographic is who I see the least of in the gym. Have you seen the obesity rates of your demographic specifically? Get real
I'm Hispanic Latino man from Puerto Rico. This is pitiful. I'm so glad I married in 1989 at the age of 21. To a beautiful Mexican woman that's three months older than me and she was a virgin. Still married and now I'm an empty nester. Enjoying the grandkids and my time with the wife, hobbies, books and riding my motorcycle. God is good🙏
The dream
@@_brightwit they don't make them like that anymore. An average 21 year old female has more bodies than an average 55 year old female.
Same conversations between lonely, unmarried, older women. Time has run out.
Exactly.
#thatpart
They had their “fun” when they were young and now that there aren’t men waiting for them, they’re acting like this is a problem that’s exclusive to black women.
Of all races
They got very quiet when it was time to discuss their light skin privilege. That was all I needed to see..
I love these conversations, I don't agree with everything, but it all starts with real conversations
This was a strange panel situation but an important conversation to have. Eboni was very outspoken and Melissa Ford. The panel should’ve had a diversity of women
I was gonna say that yes, everyone is light skinned
Damn near 50, looking for a Cinderella story... Yet haven't noticed they have become the Wicked Step mothers 😂😂😂😂..
Women looking for Superman, walking by Clark Kent every day. GOD has placed each one of them gorgeous woman husbands in they life, deep down inside they know. Women need to make better choices in there 20s. Fellas have discernment. They still have a chance, but time isn't on their side.
I nodded my head in agreement at least 50 times while watching this! Bravo, ladies--bravo!
Also, the hues of the women on the panel didn't bother me. Honestly, hearing brownish to lighter complexion women singing the same song as darker makes the message clearer that all Black women are impacted.
Not the ones that go to church and believe. These women are totally different.
@@WaltTheMinnesotaPigwhat do you mean ?
Question: if i earn 7 million a year.
I have two options.
1. I can choose a 21 year old who thinks ten grand is alot of money. I move her into my crib and she is my gal but has no debt or expenses for me to take on. She us relatively cheap.
Or
Choose a 40 year old woman who earns 100k or 7 figures. Has expensive taste and curated lifestyle. Where my millions is stretched thin to cover be lifestyle expectations.
Im go for the young pretty girl who follows my lifestyle and sees me as so cool rather an older chick i have to spend more on ...
Im gonna go for the less expensive prettier option.
at least you're honest that it's you that's the problem
@@TeKeyaKrystal I'm the solution
@@TeKeyaKrystal honestly this is why so many of you are in the predicaments you’re in when it comes to dating. Everyone else is the problem but you, it’s never y’all
A high-income man is a financial boost to a woman, but a high-income woman is a financial drain to a man. The high-income woman will expect the man to fund her expensive lifestyle, or at least pay for half of it -- half of the $800 dinner dates, half of the first class flights to Europe and $1000/night hotels, etc. That's why most men are better off dating a woman who earns less.
@@megalodon1726 I like a high earning woman spending all her money on me
Western women are at war with polarity and by all indications, they're winning. I think most men get that the traditional wife is pretty much a thing of the past. Most of what these ladies are talking about is a transactional relationship and from my perspective men are really
starting to understand and are giving up on traditional marriage to most Western females. It's not just a Black or White issue.
Exactly. It’s like women who are succeeding professionally still haven’t graduated to the philosophy of thought of possibly being the breadwinner. And I mean I know a lot of them are but what I’m really saying is accepting the role as such without feeling like their man isn’t a MAN.
I looked at the map and did the math recently. And the western world (US, Canada, UK, Western Europe, Australia, NZ) only encompasses about 600M ppl or about 7.5% of the global population of 8 billion.
Feminism has fully subsumed the west. But in Asia, LATAM, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Africa, patriarchy still largely reigns. And in places where English is not prevalent you will find traditional women. The English language is now the circulatory system for feminist ideology. Places like Ethiopia, India, Guatemala, Panama, Peru, Sri Lanka, Saudi, Oman, Japan, Vietnam speak little English and have very little feminism as a result. These countries also have low divorce rates. India, Guatemala, and Sri Lanka have the lowest divorce rates, as low as 1% in India.
The solution is clear. You have to leave the west, and you need to learn at least 1 additional language. Women who do not speak English are less likely to be brainwashed by feminism, which is spread via English speakers, esp. American women.
Men are giving up on marriage.
That's problem
@@buffalo.blackk Only 7.5%....wow, there's hope
EVERYTHING you do in life is TRANSACTIONAL especially in a Highly Capitalistic Society. You being born is TRANSACTIONAL, a patriarchal bargain between your Mother and father, an agreement that she will give him a Lineage. Your BIRTH CERTIFICATE is Transactional, every FRIENDSHIP and RELATIONSHIP you cultivate is Transactional. 😘 YOUR ISSUE IS NOT WITH WESTERN WOMEN OR MODERN WOMEN, YOUR ISSUES LIE WITHIN CAPITALISM. Even Traditional Women are Transactional, how do you expect to LEAD a traditional household without MONEY 💵 & a Transaction?? Hmm 🤔 According to Lawyers, the MOST amount of women who REQUEST the Highest about of Alimony & Spousal Support in court are Traditional Women. 😘 So, you’re looking for a Traditional woman, GO MARRY school Librarian or a Teacher 🧑🏫 and RETIRE her. Or, you can just take your Passport and head to Colombia 🇨🇴 The more you know! Look it up, I kid you not 💯🤷🏾♀️
Why do y’all hate light skinned black women or biracial women so much?
Because they like to use their skin color as the sole reason why they can’t get the results that they want.
😆
The ladies on the show are Biracial and Mixed and THEY pointed it out themselves. So who is y’all? Who are you referring to?
Why do y’all hate “The White Man” so much BUT love his Biracial Daughters? Hmm 🤔
@Melanated483 I don’t hate anyone ma’am. I love everyone…we are all god’s children right? I was referring to a lot of the females in the comment section.
Know everything but Men is interesting.
I’d rather listen to “white” women if this what they giving 😅
All they're really saying is the men they want don't want them
yikes.. kinda
Melissa Ford looks amazing! And the Lawyer made some really good points! Felt like they were all taking the thoughts directly out my mind!
Eboni, you have a very dominant personality. Hard attracts soft. You want an alpha man who goes out to get it but those types of men are usually drawn to softer, submissive and feminine personalities.
I hope you rewatch this and try to adjust the way you come across so that you can attract the man you want, or simply choose a beta or softer man.
they don't want to believe this and why they all will stay single
Thank you
I think this is very true. I just feel like there’s no way to say this to her or any woman without sounding crazy
She won't adjust.
She's in her 40's, she's stuck in her ways
They do not represent a preference. Not any more 🤣 😂 💀 😭
At 18 and 19 they were a preference
If it ain’t Asian I ain’t dating… some ww tho 😊
@@GodHimself-bp3xw it's not so much race as it is culture and upbringing..You see what happened to jeezy..
@@GodHimself-bp3xwabsolutely but the twist is you must go TO Asia to find your wife. The western mentality of women is pretty consistent across the board. You may not experience as much grief as you would with a bw but these other women just dress it up better and play the game better. Overseas is the only way to the promised land 😂🤷🏾♂️✈️
Although I agree with everything these women are saying. A lot of the bus drivers where I work make 140,000 a year. And the inner-city drivers make even more. So stop sleeping on the bus drivers.
This whole video is women putting the blame on their failed relationships on everybody and everything but themselves(per usual). It’s very counterproductive and it’s not hard to see why most of these women are single, especially Eboni. Melissa KNOWS why she’s single.
Melissa Ford just said that the CEO of Xerox (I'm assuming the former CEO a woman) should not have to marry a bus driver. What would they even have in common. The question is, the other way around, why would a male CEO of American Express want to marry Melissa Ford? What would they even have in common? See how that works? Women view "value" in men strictly by their income. Men view "value" in a woman by her character and positive traits she can bring to their relationship. Further more... not every lawyer has a high income. Some get into law because they want to help others. Could Eboni see herself with a lawyer who makes $60k a year because he does a lot of probono work? Because they would actually have a lot in common. Notice how no one on this panel has what they are looking for yet...
Black women forever, snow bunnies NEVER!!!!!
😂
Sir. Please. 😭
a king.
Dr scammar😂😂
Why is the conversation always about the superficial trappings of "success"? I just don't understand why we aren't focusing values, character, personality, and morals?
I see you’re intelligent! The problem is society has been sold a faulty value system. All the things people use to measure one another! Are superficial, and most people will not admit this. Because they will have to completely retrain their whole value system! And that’s a lot of work so most people would rather continue to let a way of thinking! Drag them into the abyss versus completely renewing their mind. Much love.
The only thing I hear these women talk about with men is money power and status. Nothing about love, respect, commitment, compassion. Maybe if you stop reducing a man’s value to his wallet, you would find someone who wants to be your life partner.
13:10 but… does that man want you?! That’s the part they refuse to understand or acknowledge. Thus the reason why they all single in their 40’s. 🤷🏽♂️
Many of these ladies will never get it intentionally to continue to play the victim I understand the word games that Eboni likes to play, and they eat it up. She mixes portions of the truth with BS and sign language.
Absolutely. I’m indifferent to bw these days. I don’t feel anything. No anger nor sadness. I don’t feel sympathy or empathy for them either. It’s just blank. I hope one day they do better 🤷🏾♂️ but if they don’t oh well
@@mrr8606 💯💪🏾
Eboni is wolf in sheep wool. She is looking for a partner and so trying to put this narrative she is changed from feminism but the real her keeps popping up. That's why she keeps contradicting herself a lot😂😂😂.
Woman; I want to achieve all, get money but will resent a man because I pay for stuff.
Man; I got you, I will pay for everything and treat you right, just stay on my program.
Woman; No, I am not given up on my career, however, I still want a provider and protector but I want to do what I want and no man can tell me what to do.
Man; Good luck then.
WHAT A JOKE. YOU CANT HAVE IT ALL MA'AM. YOU AINT THAT SPECIAL BECAUSE, ALL YOUR ACCOLADES AND MONEY SEEMS TO BE ONLY YOURS AND DOESNT BENEFIT A MAN, BECAUSE YOU RESENT A MAN WHEN YOU SPEND MORE, WHY SHOULD A MAN IN YOUR CLASS OR HIGH DEAL WITH YOU, WHEN THERE ARE CO-OPERATIVE YOUNGER WOMEN THAT WONT GIVE A MAN HEAD ACHE AND DEAD BRAIN CELLS😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can build yourself into anything your heart desires but the customer always has a say. It's like a man saying that he's the number one kite flyer in the world but only makes 10k per year from it and he deserves the number one women in the world. Because he's the number one kite flyer. Women would call him crazy and rightfully so. The market ALWAYS determines your value to the market. Not you. That goes for everyone.
It's interesting how ppl switch up on you when you start talking about their privilege. Then they get all quiet and got nothing to say. They gave white woman vibes when Eboni called out that they are lighter skinned and represent a preference. The way their heads looked away despite the passion early on behalf of all Black women..
I see a of masculine traits in these women. Feminine energy is softer, quieter and charismatic
Facts. Men would rather wife a less attractive, feminine woman than a more attractive masculine woman.
🥱@15:14😐
I NEVER SAID I PREFER LIGHTER-SKIN WOMEN 😂😂😂😂😂
I NEVER HEAR IT FROM COMMON BLACK MEN I KNOW EITHER
Yessssssss Eboni. You better speak on it. Whewwww it got quiet when she talked about that preference 😂😂 Respect.
I'm SO GLAD Eboni addressed the 🐘🐘🐘 Elephant in the Room... Even as a "Preference" Black Men are not picking the "Best" Black Women. Trust Me, Most of Us Dark Skin Women 👩🏿🦱👩🏿🦰👸🏾👩🏾👩🏾🎓👰🏾♀have gotten the memo by middle school. We actually ARE the PREFERENCE when Dating OUT. Most Men of Other races, when he seeks a Black Woman, He wants her to look as close to Mama Africa 🌍as possible. So We call dibs on that Front. My Late Fiancé was Italian... and my current Fiancé is an African Man who Looks Great, Has No Insecurities, Has Sexual Discipline and Is VERY Masculine. MY ADVICE - Get Your Passports. ✈✈✈🌍🌏 ABB💜💜💜💜
Melissa saying that it wasn’t a lot was like a sigh of relief lol if we make the bare minimum seem like a lot then we get the community of men that we have now lol
Bw also don't give bm the bare minimum. Yall are mostly overweight , masculine and aggressive with kids .
U do ask for a lot while we ask for very little
You act as though women have leverage...the current relationship climate proves you don't. You have no bar setting ability. Men will always seek the path of least resistance.
Melissa ford is an industry pass around. Her opinion on men is useless to the average woman
The host called Micheal Jordan “corny “ in high school of course 😂not now she wants him now 😂😂😂😂
Everyone has an opinion it just boils down to doing what works best for you and your situation!
The kicker is that men have been with women of lower financial value forever, and men never degraded them as lower value from a financial perspective.
This is what many high earning women don’t understand! I believe feminism tricked women into thinking that their importance was their earning. But men’s value of women never changed with it!