Are Marty’s Parents Also Victims in Back to the Future?
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- Is this a plot hole in Back to the Future, or are Marty's parents also victims of time travel shenanigans? James Gunn and Chris Pratt once weighed in, and now, it's our turn.
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So much had changed due to Marty's interference in 1955, that 1955 Doc would have realised that, although the photo showed Dave, Linda and Marty again, the future might turn out in such a way that there was a real danger that he and Marty might never meet for the first time in the early 1980s, creating a universe-destroying paradox. He already knew things were different because Marty told him that his father had never stood up to Biff in his life and yet he had just knocked him out. So Doc felt compelled to make sure that as much as possible between November 12th, 1955 and October 26th, 1985 happened the same way as it did originally, or as near as possible. So he befriended George and Lorraine at the earliest opportunity and became a friend of the family. That's why, for instance, the McFly family were still living in the same house, even though they were more affluent; Marty had indicated where he lived (was going to live) on Lyon Estates and Doc made sure that when George and Lorraine came to buy a home, they bought the right house. Doc also picked up on George's fascination with science-fiction as George succeeded in getting short stories published in magazines and anthologies. So, gradually, Doc set George up for the big reveal when he told him about his time travel experiments. In this timeline, George already knew that "Calvin Marty Klein" was his own son, but Doc warned him not to tell Marty in advance, in order not to risk Marty not going back.
This is incredibly intriguing, @mikenash7049. We love how your interpretation puts Doc even more in the front seat of Marty's life, which adds another incredibly reasonable explanation for why they are besties. The idea that George is in on it is also very fascinating, and it would have been great to see more nods to that in the film.
Not even that, but if Marty's mom and dad took different life paths as they normally would have, when they had sex and where would have a 100% impact on fertilizing the egg, let alone three - those kids would be completely different people.
They knew, that’s why the book showed up the day he returned.
That's a great observation, @GuyTheArtist. No one else has pointed that out.
George's friggin book is the recognition there was a Marty. The cover is literally the scene from George's teenage bedroom.
Thanks for your comment, @joshuapowers4623. That definitely seems plausible.
It's really quite simple. No matter how much you influence someone's actions, if they are successful, they will see it as mostly up to their own efforts. Never expect your advice to be appreciated because people like to take credit for their successes.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, @mrtweedy705.
George decking Biff would've been the talk of the high school for WEEKS. Marty was there for a week. Lorraine, George and Biff see each other every day at school. That's why it would've been more cemented in their memory than Marty. Heck, in that new timeline, Biff was probably their best man.
Thanks for leaving a comment, @IanHollis. You're right about that KO being the talk of the school. George would have been a legend after that.
Not just Biff. He also decked Mark Dixon as well.
I'm 40. I cant really remember details of when I was 10.. except the abuse 😢
😭😭
Also, time travel is impossible as far as the parents know, so it makes more sense that they wouldn't remark on the coincidence of this kid looking like their kid (and memories change)
Thanks for your comment. We definitely don't expect them to remember what Marty looked like or to think that 1955 Marty was their son. grace's critique was around the fact that they don't remember "a Marty" even existing.
The reason they don't remember him is because he had recently returned to 1985 and the Ripple Effect didn't have the time to fully unravel and change their memories. The way I see it, the Ripple Effect only rolls out once the person making changes to the past returns to their time because until the hole in the space-time continuum opens up, the changes stay localized to the time/era they were made in. That rift that you see opening when the Delorean hits 88 mph and is about to leave a certain point in time is what the Ripple Effect travels through. That's why old Biff from 2015 didn't die as soon as he went back to 1955 to give his younger self the sports almanac. It wasn't until he returned the Delorean to his own time (October 2015) that the Ripple Effect started rolling out & affecting him. For some things like the Twin Pines / Lone Pine Mall, the changes roll out faster but it seems with humans it takes longer for them to happen. Technically the Ripple Effect would still roll out had Marty been stuck in 1955 and had to live through those years & age 30 years to see 1985 again but it would happen much more slowly and in real time for him.
Thanks for weighing in, @wtcvidman. The butterfly effect is certainly a viable explanation here.
well george did say "like i always told you i fyou put your mind to it you can acomplish anythign" which was the line he told george he siad he would never forget. so he is acknowleding it to some level.
btw. not only did they have those interactions but this same guy also invented skate boards and rock n roll
i also thikn george may have known something. why?
in the sence in 1955 the thin bully (not biff) tok lorraine again while marty was playing Earth angel. george saw marty dissappearing and then turned around to kiss lorraine. i think he knew something
Great points! We love the idea that George was in on it!
Marti was in 1955 for about a week. People in their 40s don't remember a face of someone they've seen for 1 week 20+ years previous. Even if they do remember Marti they won't remember his face.
This is an interesting question, but i think you’re forgetting how long 30 years is and our memories. I know people with terrible memories yet i have a great memory.
I’ll give you an example as my friends and I recently talked about the 25th anniversary when we saw The Phantom Menace in 1999. I remember my one friend walked out and put his head on the wall because he was shocked at how bad it was. My other friend said, “I liked it!” Both of them had no memory of anything from that night as they were shocked I remembered every detail. They remembered seeing the movie and that was it. They forgot my older brother came too.
Marty’s parents could be 2 people with bad memories and they remember Biff more cause they went to High School with him everyday compared to this Marty guy who was there for a week.
You're right, @chrisolivo6591. People totally have bad memories, unless the event made a significant impact on their lives.
As far as The Phantom Menace goes, is it possible that your friends blocked the memory? grace has tried to block Phantom Menace from her mind but has not been successful, so if your friends did block the movie, please give grace some tips.
_"I know people with terrible memories yet i have a great memory."_ Your acquaintances say the same about you.
@@OurOnlyThing Once you are in your late 40's you will understand why the commentor said what he did.
What's this Phantom Menace film?
Never heard of it.
* Nonchalant whistling *
@@nealjroberts4050it is one of the star wars film. Episode 1.
The 4th episode to be released.
In his parents’ timeline Marty would have looked like Marty well before he returned from the 50s and therefore they may have acknowledged the similarity before Marty’s return.
Thanks for comment, @mza5817. We certainly don't expect them to recall that 1985 Marty is the same one from 1955. We're just surprised that they (especially George) doesn't remember that "a Marty" existed.
The look that George and Lorraine give Marty as they look out the door.... that tells all. They knew.
That is such a great moment, and you've given us a new way to look at it now. Bravo!
It seems to me that when they credit Biff for their falling in love, they would remember the strange boy who appeared and pushed George toward Lorraine. In fact, they might remember the guarantee that they'd see him again. As someone once said, "Moms always know."
That's EXACTLY what we thought, @JohnRandomness105. It makes perfect sense that they wouldn't think that 1985 Marty is the same guy, but it always surprises us that they don't remember Marty at all. Thanks so much for taking the time to leave us a comment!
Yeah. I went to my 30 year high school reunion. People I knew from 6th grade all the way through senior year graduation I couldn't recognize. We all had to have name tags with our full names because of the possibility of father time and the changes most likely in a lot of us. These are people I knew 7 years straight during the formative years of my life, some of whom I had profound moments with. Yet couldn't place one of them till they approached me. So chalked it up to changing faces over an ocean of time. Then they did a slide show of them and now and everyone I knew looked pretty much the same. Time just erases over things from years long gone.
George and Laraine McFly knew Marty exactly one week and sometimes for just a couple of minutes per day. Then he disappeared never to be seen again. Memories change, fade and warp. But, one week from thirty years ago that's not on your instant total recall speed dial of the mind is not beyond the realm of possibility. As a matter of fact, it's probably more probable than not. This is heavy.
@@pablosonic892 Exactly! Thank you for summing it up this well. So it would make sense to surmise that they DID remember Marty...but instead, just as some nice, useful, beneficial, yet fleeting, fly-by-night dude that was *helpful,* but not overly significant in their lives. George and Lorraine BOTH have minimalized his importance to them in their lives; George expressly takes credit for the "If you put your mind to it..." quote, and he totally credits *himself* and his own inner courage for putting Biff in his place and having the gall to get his science fiction stories published. The irony, of course, is that Doc Brown is really the ONLY one responsible - for both the initial quote AND the huge overhaul of the entire McFly family (and for eventually having one himself).
But that's the irony of life - people credit themselves for things that aren't really all their own doing (hence the concept of *illusion* of control), and they say that you're "important" and that they'll "never forget you," but they do, and their memories do as well. Interesting, 'cause I think that's also a lesson to be learned here that I hadn't considered before. But I think that the reason for lack of acknowledgement at the end, from a writer's perspective, was more basic than that: it was to cause the viewer NOT to inquire about George and Lorraine's memories of the 1955 Marty (some "dude") vs. the 1985 Marty (their son), so as to avoid any potential confusion that might arise, and to avoid this same very issue that has been raised now. As such, the film flows better thru to the end, since the audience isn't allowed to stop and ponder the relevance of George and Lorraine's recollections and impressions of 1955 Marty to them in 1985. 👍
IF either of Marthy’s parents realized Marty was from their past to couple them, they dug it. All the family thrived.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, @nintendolunchbox.
I’m 46, so I sadly have memories that are 30 years old. I remember random thoughts I had at 16, let alone someone I kissed. And Lorraine and George seem to get together at this point so they’re not out with multiple people. When I talk to people my age we tend to remember every crush, kiss and dumb thing we did. The details may be off slightly, they may remember the wrong dance or the wrong car type, but the emotion of what you felt remains and you remember who gave you that feeling. Especially for an event like Biff trying to assault her and getting decked. Also, George remembered enough about Marty to make it the basis of his book.
We are also around your age, so we can relate. grace has always had a really strong memory and is confident that she would remember "a Marty." We love what you said about how "the emotion helps your remember WHO gave you that feeling," because that is the entire point that grace was trying to make. Marty was so important to George that he did base his book upon one of the experiences they had (even though he didn't realize Vader was actually Marty lol).
The moment when George decks Biff could have been called the Biff incident and was shorten to ‘Biff’ between the two. I know in movie that Marty sets up the situation for George to deck him, but Biff intervenes. And Marty’s Mom’s point of view she just saw Biff run off Calvin and George came to save the day.
That's a great point, @Kara_Kay_Eschel. Thanks for commenting.
George isn't dumb. If Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan to interfere in his life, he'd put 2 and 2 together and realize Calvin Klein was in on it in some way. So either George thought Marty was an alien or he figured it out and eventually realized Marty was his future son. Whether or not Lorraine ever figured it out or was clued in is another story.
Thanks for leaving a comment, @spacesergeant101. We have not heard this theory before.
That actually makes sense. He doesn't know how it happened he just knows something happened and he decided it was best to not ask questions and then just give Biff credit
The other weird plot twist is that Doc knows Marty before he is even born which then Doc need to figure out when he needs to befriend Marty.
Which I have to point something out. At the garage where Marty blew up a giant speaker, Doc said his experiment worked and all his clocks where 25 mins slow.
I would believe Doc already time travelled before that night. Doc time travelled 25 mins by setting all his clocks 25 mins slow. Which bring me to believe that Doc probably saw his future and everybody's else.
This is a really cool theory, @thebandit7623. It would also explain why Doc has a clock with a man hanging off of it (we see it in the opening of the movie, which grace noted in our breakdown video). He probably placed that clock there after one of his time travels.
But here's the thing. For Loraine, Marty was just a guy she was infatuated with for about a week. She had no knowledge of George being helped by Marty to get her, or that anything that happened at the dance was meant to be staged. From Loraine's perspective, George stopped Biff from raping her. A situation Marty played no part in to her. There's really no reason for marty to be seared into her memory after such a short period of time. Now George does remember him because of the impact he had. The evidence for that is the guy on his book cover is from what happened in his bedroom when he was a teen. However, remembering someone & what the did for you is very different from remembering thier looks in such detail that after 30 yrs you randomly recognize them in your kid. Now even if George thought Marty played a major role in him getting Loraine, which his book suggests he does, why would he ever contradict Loraine. What would he say? "Well actually I was really there to pretend to knock out Clavin Kline who would've been pretending to try to rape you, not to actually knock out Biff who was actually trying to rape you". Nah, i don't see him doing that.
We agree that Marty didn't have the same kind of impact on Lorraine. As grace also notes in the video, we certainly don't expect either parent to remember what Marty looked like or to think that their child is the same Marty from 1955.
That's an interesting point about George not correcting Lorraine on what really happened with Biff. That makes total sense that he would want to be the hero (which he is).
I think people take the ending of this movie a little too literally, it’s the message that the filmmakers want you to focus on. Everybody views this scene from Marty’s perspective and already knowing his journey, but I do believe that they do remember him, it’s just that from his parents perspective, in the new timeline they raised Marty since he was a toddler and Im sure that as he grew up, for them he resembled Marty from 1955 not truly knowing that he was the same person.
Thanks for your comment, @dukefritter6536.
Og Lorraine wouldn't " remember " Marty in the 1st timeline bc he didn't go back in time yet.
Thanks for taking the time to leave us a comment, @rickwaters3592.
Technically there are no timelines in BttF, but instead there are different states of the universe since there is only 1 universe that evolves due to the Ripple Effect when changes to the past are made by a time traveler. That's why Jennifer wasn't stuck in the alternate 1985 because that 1985 was just another state/version of the same universe that evolved back into something mostly similar to its former state prior to old Biff stealing the Delorean & giving his younger self the almanac, except the universe post BttF2 had the added history of a 2nd Marty in 1955 trying to get the almanac back & succeeding. Doc merely draws the alternate/bad version of 1985 as a timeline to illustrate his point that somewhere in the past, something happened to change the state of the universe from what they knew to its current corrupt state.
But what you said would make sense if you just remember that "1st timeline" is really just the original state of the BttF universe where Marty had never been to 1955 for them to remember him. For me the answer is simple, that post time travel George & Lorraine didn't exhibit memories of remembering Marty from 1955 because the Ripple Effect hadn't fully given them the chance to remember him because it takes time for it to fully roll out and it doesn't happen until the rift in the space-time continuum opened when the Delorean hits 88 mph and traveled through time for the Ripple Effect to roll out to the future (1985). Until then, it stayed localized and even when it rolled out, Marty had just returned. Think of it as the same reason old Biff didn't die as soon as he gave his younger self the book in BttF2 as we saw him disappear due to Lorraine having killed him in 1996 based on the script (not sure if that's considered canon in the theatrical release but I always assumed all the alcohol he had access to must have caused him to die somewhere along the way and old Biff disappearing was due to that (because he wasn't supposed to be alive until 2015 due to cirrhosis or whatever).
My explanation is simply that the absence of Marty in the story of how they got together was purely for the benefit of Marty's siblings. Who doesn't know about time travel. So to protect them and present day Marty, the story was redacted slightly. I a theory that said Geosrge knew by the end that Marty was his future sin. They state that due to George's love of science fiction, he had an open mind when it came to the unexplained. So George and Lorraine know the truth, but they don't talk about it in front of their other children.
This is a great theory. Thanks for sharing!
@@OurOnlyThing thank you. My apologies for he many errors 😆
Another channel raised an interesting point that might be helpful here. There is a possibility that due to his predisposition for SciFy and Marty's poor handling of the past and constantly calling him Dad, that George put together the truth that CALVIN was a time traveler and infact his son when he saw his hand disappearing on stage. He already had a believable encounter with Death Vader that week so it isn't a stretch. He may have consciously let the story change for Larains benefit over the years so that she would downplay the memories of that random guy she briefly liked in Highschool.
This is a really great theory, @bafumat. Thanks so much for sharing it. It does seem plausible that George figured things out and may have led Lorraine down the path of forgetting since she would not be as open as he was to accepting the reality that 1955 Marty was her son. George's love for sci-fi certainly supports that theory just like you said. Fascinating!
No, the Lorraine from the beginning of the movie never met Marty. She is the product of not having gone through the movie., of not having the trouble with Biff.
The only parents who should remember Marty are the ones at the end of the movie ; Marty number two’s parents.
And they might not remember him because they really don’t remember everybody they’ve met . But she liked the name Marty.
Thanks for your comment. We agree that the parents at the end are the ones who should remember that there was a Marty.
If you asked me to describe someone I saw for a short period 30 years ago, I wouldn't be able to tell you a single thing about what they looked like.
Thanks for your comment, @frankd5119. As grace mentioned in the video, we didn't expect them to remember what he looked like. It was more about remembering "a Marty" existed in 1955.
They never took a picture of Marty and human memory is notoriously poor. That's part of why eyewitness testimony in court is so unreliable. They may well remember their 'friend Marty', but after 30 years their memories of his face are probably pretty blurry
Thanks for commenting, @dansdiscourse4957. We certainly don't expect them to recall that 1985 Marty is the same one from 1955. We're just surprised that they (especially George) doesn't remember that "a Marty" existed.
@@OurOnlyThing Well it's true we don't hear them mention 1955 Marty, but then again we only see one scene in the new timeline. That's not much of a sample size. It's not much evidence either way for if they remember 1955 Marty or not
It'd mainly be memory. I barely remember anyone's faces from 30ya let alone someone I met for a week.
Bear in mind too that George hitting Biff would be more significant than a brief date who didn't help her.
And that doesn't even take in the possibility of Doc befriending George and slowly letting him in on the secret that his youngest son would time travel and be pivotal to their lives.
Good points, @nealjroberts4050. We certainly don't expect them to remember Marty's face (which grace mentions in the video).
Not a thing. They raised a baby, toddler, child, then adolescent who eventually looked like someone from 30 years in the past. They have no pictures of 1955 Calvin Klein or likenesses to work from. His impact was huge, but ideas last much longer than perfect recall of the genesis of those ideas. They're more likely to have deja vu and move on with their own problems. Very close to the principle of "Everyone's too busy thinking of themselves to think about you." George and Lorraine didn't fixate on Calvin, so his details disappeared.
Thanks for your comment, @PatrickBoberg. As grace mentioned in the video, we didn't expect them to remember what he looked like. It was more about remembering "a Marty" existed in 1955.
First, how much do you remember a friend you hung out with for one week decades ago? Second, they watched Marty grow from a child he didn’t just show up one day looking like Calvin.
Thanks for your comment, @mikewritz. Both of your questions are addressed in the full video.
@@OurOnlyThing Right…Nobody waits until they’ve watched the full video to comment. Gotta do it while it’s fresh on the mind.
Well in my personal experience memories can be flawed. I've met people and then see them again after many years and my recollection of what they looked like is similar but different and people age. The new 1985 versions of George and Lorraine only had a few minutes of screen time they might've extensively talked about Marty. Also from Lorraine's point of view Biff would be credited with getting them together it was all part of Marty's plan but George probably would not have told Lorraine about Marty setting up for George to come in as the hero.
Thanks for leaving a comment, @SyphusBatterus. That's a great point about the limited screen time. It makes us wonder what also might have been cut from the film.
In Family Guy Marty's dad does remember him and he does not go easy on him!!
We've never seen that episode, but we're adding it to our watchlists! By the way, grace loves your handle. When she saw it, she immediately started singing, "Feel my heat."
@@OurOnlyThing lol, that's awesome!!! Thanks for replying back.
If their kid looked like that Marty guy from the 50s, George may have become suspicious/questioned if Marty was the father of little Marty (keeping in mind that George was unaware of the time travel aspect of it).
And what about the possibility of Marty eventually telling his parents what actually happened (or at least trying to)?
The element of secrecy about time travel in the 50s revolved around the delicate situation that he must get his parents together.
Once everything worked out, that need for secrecy would be gone. (I'm commenting within the first film's universe, not 2 or 3.)
That's a really great point, @zvoidx, about George. We're guessing that Marty probably just wanted to put the whole thing behind him (or in front of him since he does end up in 2015 lol). We definitely would do that if our moms hit on us in the past.
About George suspecting "Calvin" being Marty's father, the problem with that is that Marty is the youngest son, not the oldest.
@@charlescole645 Calvin could've hooked up with Lorraine in the late 60s to father Marty, with George being the father of the first two.
Edit: I mean, George might suspect an affair regarding their third child that looks like Calvin/Marty.
@zvoidx yeah from George's POV Lorraine could have just bumped into Clavin again maybe he came back to town to visit Uncle Doc and they just hooked up one day before he went away again
Weird this is the second video I've seen talking about this and it baffles me. I mean it was thirty years ago for them. They only saw Marty for like what a week? You can remember a name, but to think they'd have a photographic memory of him and even if they did think he looked similar they'd just brush it off as coincidence
Thanks for your comment, @jvanek8512. As grace noted in the video, our critique isn't around them recognizing 1985 Marty as the same Marty from 1955. We are surprised that they (primarily George) don't remember that "a Marty" existed.
I can barely remember the faces of friends from childhood that I spent days weeks months and years with. A friend of 1 week I would not remember. Also, Marty's parents did copious amounts of acid in the 60s. The 50s is a foggy memory. George likely overtime faded the memory of the encounters with Marty out to make him the main character in his story. Lorraine likely suppressed feelings for other boys out of respect for George became her number 1 guy and no other boys mattered after that punch.
Thanks for your comment.
I find it hard to believe that Doc would ever build te time machine after dealing with implications of time travel in 1955. And if were to sone reason still aspire to achieve time trave, he would've done it many years earlier. He already had a working time machine in is possession for a brief time in 1955.
Thanks for your comment. We agree that Doc's adventures should have prevented him from further toying with time travel, but if he hadn't of built it, he probably would have disrupted the ultimate timeline even further.
He could have had one hell of an impact, but his face can get lost in the sauce. They obviously remembered Marty, but the specifics even down to the Calvin Klein, may have just got lost in the many memories.
Thanks for weighing in, @kudjoeadkins-battle2502.
Nah they wouldn't have remembered him let alone think it's their youngest child from the future
Thanks for your comment, @ZeusAmun-pt9dc. We agree that they wouldn't think 1955 Marty was 1985 Marty (grace mentions this in the video).
If the timeline changed, it changed retroactively so it would have been at some point, years before Marty first seeing the new timeline that his parents might have noticed a similarity between their son and the Marty from the 50s and as their son would gradually turn into that “Marty” they may not have consciously noticed it at all. Likely, their Marty largely and gradually overwrote the memory of the guy from way back who they named him for. It is not like when he came out of his bedroom it was the first time they had seen him since the 50s as it was for him.
Thanks for weighing in on this, @RowRideRun. We certainly don't expect Lorraine and George to remember Marty (their actual son) from the past, but we are surprised that they (especially George) don't remember a Marty at all. Your idea of Marty overwriting that memory is totally possible.
My Mandella effect is that I remember Harrison Ford starring in "Falling Down" and the cop near retirement, Officer Pendergrast, was played by a black man. Somebody has messed with the time-line.
This is why we think DeLoreans are dangerous. 😉 Though it would have been interesting to see Harrison Ford in that role.
I wonder if you are confusing that with the fugitive.
Falling down and the fugitive were released around the same time.
@@Lord_Skeptic I'm pretty sure I never saw "The Fugitive" film. That's one worth looking up.
What about the Other Marty? Our Marty - Let’s call him “Marty Prime”, erased the parents he grew-up with. And replaced them with “Better Parents”. ☝🏽But those Better Parents presumably would’ve went to on create a totally different Marty, Other Marty. A Marty we never saw. Who travelled back in time one night &...never came back? 🥺 Replaced by Marty Prime?
I LOVE TALKING ABOUT FICTIONAL TIME TRAVEL ISH
This is such a great point, @jaymz010. Does your head start to spin when you talk about time travel? Our heads do lol. Anyway, @plowe6751 left an awesome explanation here that will probably solve this conundrum. Or maybe it will bring on more questions lol! ;)
I wouldn't say erased. I would say created an alternate universe. Prime Marty left his world and came back in a world where Marty beta grew up in Lone Pine world. And when that beta Marty went back in time, he somehow muck things up and returned to Twin Pine world. So now you got parallel realities that are close but not the same.
@@wolferguy
Wait are you saying you have alternate realities existing CONCURRENTLY? 🤔
In a fun bit of trivia, when Marty goes back to the future 10 minutes early and sees his past self take off in the DeLorean, that specific take of the scene is from when Eric Stoltz was playing Marty. My headcanon is that Stoltz is the "Other Marty" who went back in time and he "became" Marty Prime/MJF during the course of his adventure into the past. It's dumbed down for viewers into always being MJF.
There is no other Marty because in BttF there are no timelines, only 1 universe that changes when changes to the past happen as a result of the Ripple Effect. Those "timelines" are merely different states of a singular universe. Otherwise Marty would never see Jennifer again instead of her just waking up in the same universe in BttF3 because she would be stuck in an alternate timeline. But that didn't happen because there is no other timeline. It was only drawn as such by Doc Brown to illustrate an altered state of the singular universe---a state that Marty & Doc were unfamiliar with where Biff was powerful & corrupted Hill Valley.
George knew Marty was his son from the future - if you pay attention to the film and the performance by Glover you can clearly see he has figured it out by the Enchantment Under The Sea Dance
We love the idea that George was in on it. It does add another layer to an already incredible film.
They probably figured that Marty in 1955, whose real name Lorraine thought was Calvin Klein, went on to launch a highly successful and famous line of underwear.
That's an amazing theory, @YouthFreedomFighters! Even Chris Pratt couldn't top that lol.
Not sure how long you been experiencing the M.E. but my first major timeline jump was the 16th June 2016, next morning my anatomy very different, traffic lights upside down, movie lines different plus hundreds more impossible changes. Some ppl see a change in the delorean. I'd love to talk you about the M.E. to compare if we from the same or similar timelines 😎
At the end of two, the deliriant wasn't going 88 mph when it was struck by lightning. The premise about speed was completely ignored.
Another great catch!
Wasn’t this covered in the dialogue between Doc and Marty in 1885 Hill Valley once Doc releases him from the noose with his sniper rifle? something about the lightning bolt overloading the Delorean’s time circuits (since they were already activated to return to 1985 from 1955) 🤔
@@bruce_just_ I'm not satisfied with that explanation... Because here to for... 88... 88... 88... And even after... 88... 88... Why have a rule of you are just going to break it when convenient.
@@jdramirez77 it’s flying at that moment? it’s mentioned in the dialog…
what am i - google?
@@bruce_just_ the lightning bolt caused the Delorean to spin at 88 MPH. That is why there are backwards 9s.
There are two delorians present in 3... One without gas and one with a full tank.
Great catch.
the one with the “full tank” had its fuel tank drained for long term storage in that mine shaft. it has to be left undisturbed (ie can’t be pilfered for ICs etc to repair) so that Marty can use it in 1955 as the “second” Delorean to travel back to 1885 and to intervene and prevent Doc’s early death “over a matter of $80” 😉
How do you only have 22 subs
We just started, so we're very much in the building stage. Thanks so much for taking the time to leave us a comment, @AidanLovesMinecraft. You made our night!
I got time today
Thanks for your comment, @themondoshow.