What if Japan invaded the USSR in WW2?
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
- First, let me get the problems out of the way from this scenario. Telling Japan to just invade the Soviet Union is like telling the Ultranationalist Germans and the Fuhrer to simply develop nukes, despite it being considered by them Jewish science.
Or like telling the Germans to not build the concentration camps during the war, and so on. Basically, these things are characteristic to the Ultranationalist Ideology, and saying that they don’t do them is just impossible to happen.
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01:48 *FUN FACT:* During World War II, Poland (well, Poland's exiled government) did actually declare war on Japan following the attack on Pearl Harbour. But the crazy thing is that Japan actually rejected Poland's declaration of war.
"WE ARE GONNA DECLARE WAR ON YOU"
"no"
*Chad music*
beacuse in past japan and poland had good relations beacuse they helped each other to spy on soviet union
“Hey bro just letting you know we are at war now”
“No 👍”
I know this nit-picky, but would Poland really be awarded all German lands up to the Oder river? I mean, as far as I know that was entirely Stalin's doing and against the will of the US and UK, so if the Allies liberates Poland instead wouldn't it be kinda weird to just give Poland all of that land inhabited by Germans anyway? I seriously doubt the US and UK and probably even France would be for a forced migration of the German population from those lands. Idk to me it doesn't really seem logical to give Poland anything more than East Prussia and Upper Silesia in this timeline, since those areas already had a large Polish population.
Edit: If Germany would get occupied by the victors after the war like in our timeline, maybe Poland would get an occupation zone of their own to administer in eastern Germany instead of the Russian getting one. Perhaps the UK, France and the US would get to occupy roughly the same amount of German land as in our world plus the land west of the Oder from the Soviet zone (basically all that was East Germany irl), while Poland would get to occupy/de-nazify everything to the east. Anyway this scenario was probably a 7/10 on the realism scale despite my nit-pick.
The french werent in much of a position and there an awful lot of proposition of all sides involved a North South divide. America wanted a bulwark against Socialism and was willing to import Nazis en masse for it.
@@elseggs6504 the allies agreed very early on in the war that Germany shouldn't loose any territory to repel irredentism and discredit nazism. only when the soviets came into the picture the plan was thrown out. if the soviet union really was as weak like in the video germany would loose maybe a bit of silesia and part of prussia but not the modern westward shift
@@palanix3145 Thats the official story. They sure as shit didnt mind splitting what would become the Federal Republic in 3
@@elseggs6504 are you seriously comparing occupation zones to a country losing land? braindead take ngl
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I’d say 8/10 in realism but I find it very interesting
Thats good, I like to see that!
@@rewriting-history Here's a detailed alternative timeline exploring what might have happened if Japan and Germany had launched a joint invasion of Siberia during World War II:
1939:
August 23: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is signed between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, ensuring non-aggression between the two powers.
1941:
June 22: Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union, begins. However, in this alternative timeline, Japan coordinates with Germany to launch a simultaneous invasion of Siberia.
1942:
January 1: The Japanese and German forces commence their invasion of Siberia, catching the Soviet Union off guard. The initial Japanese incursion is focused on the Russian Far East, targeting key cities such as Vladivostok and Khabarovsk.
March 12: Despite initial resistance, the Soviet Red Army is overwhelmed by the combined German and Japanese forces. Japanese troops, experienced in Siberian climates due to prior conflicts with Russia, advance rapidly.
April 30: The city of Vladivostok falls to the Japanese, cutting off a crucial port for Soviet supplies.
July 15: German forces, having made significant gains in European Russia, push deeper into Siberia, aiming to link up with the advancing Japanese forces.
1943:
January 20: The Japanese and German armies succeed in linking up near Lake Baikal, effectively dividing Siberia in half. Soviet resistance continues, but their forces are severely strained.
June 6: The Battle of Irkutsk begins, with the Soviets mounting a desperate defense against the advancing Axis powers. However, Japanese and German air superiority and tactical coordination give them the upper hand.
August 10: Irkutsk falls to the Axis forces, opening up a clear path towards the heartland of the Soviet Union.
1944:
February 2: With Siberia largely under Axis control, the Japanese begin pushing westward towards Moscow, while German forces continue their advance from the west.
June 22: On the third anniversary of Operation Barbarossa, Axis forces reach the outskirts of Moscow. The Soviet capital is besieged, and Stalin is forced to flee eastward.
1945:
March 12: The Battle of Moscow ends in victory for the Axis powers. With the fall of the Soviet capital, resistance in European Russia collapses.
May 7: Nazi Germany declares victory in Europe, with Adolf Hitler proclaiming the establishment of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, encompassing vast territories from Europe to Asia.
August 15: Japan announces its victory in Asia, having successfully expanded its empire to encompass Siberia and parts of China, Mongolia, and the Pacific.
In the alternative timeline where Germany wins World War II with the help of Japan, several factors could contribute to this outcome:
Coordination and Timing: The synchronized invasion of Siberia by Germany and Japan catches the Soviet Union off guard. While the Soviet Union is already engaged in a massive conflict with Germany on the Eastern Front, the addition of a Japanese invasion in the Far East further stretches Soviet resources and attention.
Strategic Advantage: Japan's experience and expertise in warfare in Siberian climates give the Axis powers a significant advantage in the harsh conditions of Siberia. This expertise allows Japanese forces to navigate and fight effectively in the challenging terrain, enabling them to advance rapidly and secure key objectives.
Combined Military Strength: The combined military might of Germany and Japan overwhelms Soviet defenses. Germany's formidable land army, coupled with Japan's naval and air superiority in the Pacific and Siberian regions, allows the Axis powers to apply pressure on multiple fronts, stretching Soviet defenses thin and ultimately leading to breakthroughs.
Resource Acquisition: The conquest of Siberia grants the Axis powers access to vast natural resources, including oil, minerals, and timber, which further strengthens their war effort. Additionally, control over key strategic locations such as Vladivostok provides logistical advantages for the Axis powers.
Diversion of Soviet Forces: The invasion of Siberia forces the Soviet Union to divert significant military resources from the European front to defend its eastern territories. This diversion weakens Soviet defenses in Europe, allowing Germany to make further gains on the Eastern Front and potentially altering the outcome of key battles such as the Battle of Moscow.
Overall, the combination of strategic coordination, military strength, expertise in challenging environments, and resource acquisition could contribute to a scenario where Germany wins World War II with the assistance of Japan in invading Siberia.
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Very nice video.
Nice vid
I’m actually writing a alternate history piece on Alternative History Wikia, call “Communist World”. In it I have Japan joining the Central Powers, and in a series of events following, get control of much of Southeast Asia almost 10 years prior in our time line, giving them the resources to invade the USSR in 1941.
I’m interested to learn more (as i am writing my own alt hist aswell), if it’s fine could you tell me more about it?
@@crappycat9056 Sorry for the late reply, but dropped the link to it!
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The Japanese tank and armored divisions were simply too weak in order to successfully invade the USSR which was the main reason they lost during the border conflict at Khalkhin Gol. Even in the 1941 scenario when most of the Soviets were already fighting against the Germans westward the Japanese forces would most likely took over Vladivostok,North Sakhalin and Kamchatka but will still be unable to advance deep into Siberia and the Soviets will not have the chance to withdraw their Siberian reserve in order to counter attack at Moscow leading to better German gains in the East. The Japanese however would become much more weaker and vulnerable for eventual Allied intervetion since most of their strategic resources were imported from US and the Dutch East Indies which in this timeline will remain under Allied control. So Japan could posibly colapse much earlier due to its chronic lack raw materials and the bad industrial outputs.
Before I watch this, some realistic notes of mine for the people that care about that instead of plain fun:
Japan wouldn't have gone to a full scale offensive war. Seize some coastal ports, and vladivostok around when germany's approaching stalingrad and is about to 'win' the war? Yeah, makes sense, ussr can't fight back because they're busy on the western front. But they wouldn't push to siberia, to the banana lake or tuva or anywhere near, they wouldn't have enough success in china to even afford a single armys' cold clothing.
Take in account vehicles breaking down, local resources and supply hubs being scarce, and then pulling men from china, it's essentially an army of 500 thousand canadians taking a light stroll through the sahara while quebec is in open revolt, except there's no tribals to steal from in siberia (compared to the sahara).
This 'invasion' would be closer to a prolonged illegal land seize, comparable to 2014.
BUT, when the soviets win the war in the west and invade japanese holdings (as they did historically) then they'll probably get hokkaido, or just plain complete control of kuril no buts or maybes. But, kuril's not a big bonus for losing vladivostok, so com china will probably get more land, and north korea too.
They might also, though 99% JUST an 'or', get a small north japanese occupied state, which would be actually affect the world in a definable matter compared to faster mao victory or the renaming of hokkaido to south sakhalin. . . Until the japanese take it back in 1992, maybe a gdp or two down.
Edit: Grammar
Edit 2, now that I've watched the videos: If japan tries to take the trans-siberian railroad, they'll only get so far. They only have so much time before america joins, and china starts pushing back. If they waste enough resources on the front, they'll make it to oyrot, northeast of khazakstan. AND, those final european borders are literally impossible for a 'peaceful world' the soviets would prob lose like 35 million men here, not 27 as historical. All that, for hokkaido. If, somehow, these borders happen, whether it be winston churchill staying in power or what (dude that came after him was a soviet union fanboy), then there would have been a third world war. Realistically, the soviets are still a major power that last _35 million men_ for an island or 2. Poland, romania, hungary and slovakia at the median, probably czeckia too. The different would be: no temp austrian holdings, no 'temp' german holdings, no bulgaria, and probably some adjustments in east asia. There's a reason hoi4 has war score for casualties taken, not only is it well-balanced (if done right) it's also realistic. 6/10 for realism, maybe 8 for fun
I probably won’t be able to watch it live as I will be at a retreat
Edit : actually I will be able to watch it as I will be driving there at 13:00 GMT
Can you make an alternate version of your zapadoslavia video where the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth was formed?
It's most likely going to result in Japan being split in half. South being Democratic and North being Communist. Maybe, if the Axis win WW2, we could have the Russian Fascist Party being in charge of Siberia, but being most likely under Japanese control but at a cost of them loosing places like Indonesia or maybe even Indochina.
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If japan attack Sovyet, they wont attack south
I appreciate the fact that you took my words into consideration. I understand that this might be a bit unrealistic however this is still a very good scenario. 8/10 on realism
Idea: What If The French United The Baltics (France uses French Memel to influence the baltics to use it as a base to invade the USSR or Germans just incase
I'm waiting!
For the next one, could you do : "what if Austria kept Belgium after the Napoleonic wars?"
Had Austria kept Belgium after the napoleonic wars, I'd say they would've lost it after the Austro-Prussian war somehow, this would also mean that ww1 would be different, not because Austria and Germany would be enemies (because they wouldn't be), but because Germany can't invade France through Belgium, so most likely Austria and Germany would have to go through Italy (since Switzerland is impossible to invade), it would fail anyway, ww1 would be more devastating for Italy, and Italy would definitively push for Dalmatia to compensate for the damages, and probably Italy would keep dalmatia to this day
My take
I really don't think Japan would succeed in seizing all of the Trans-Siberian Railroad
They did defeat Russia in 1904 and I think in 1939 just saying
As you said, there's a lot of big "ifs" that need to be in place, but were the Japanese given a big enough Mulligan, the post-war world you imagined seems likely. I'd give it a 6-to-7 in terms of its realism (with the asterisk as you pointed out that a lot would had to have happened to get there first).
I like how the hoi4 map was used lmao
yep :D
just one little detail i think that if the balkans were not communist the west wouldnt see yugoslavia (in our reality a communist state after ww2) expanding radical or smh and for compensation id say that yugoslavia atleast gains the port of trst and the city of gorica
Strike north doctrine was a thing in interwar Japan, and Japan at that time was about as anti communist as Germany. The debate between north and south was basically settelled because the IJA lost to thw red army decisively at Kalkin Gual.
5.5/10 (sorry for bad english )mostly becose of poland wouldn't be able to take that many land without becoming german dominaned and they wouldn't take back est Poland as only 3 cities in region were polish majority: Lwiw, volhynia, Vilnius. Also most of polish people who historically settles west were living in sibir.
If you knew he would follow the hoi4 Kodoha path when you saw a friendship with Poland like
14:39 😓and blessing at the same time
It’s an interesting scenario for sure. What is breaking my heart, is the Belgians continued existence and not being split between the Germans, French, and Dutch.
where is my world war 2 interactive video yo
8.5 on a realistic scale
Thats a good score, I like to see that
About Yugo. the Allies had collaborated with Tito, and its very much possible that Yugo would still be socialist if they collaborated with his forces here as well.
Interesting to see a scenario where Japan attacks the USSR instead of the Allies usually alt history CZcamsrs make them attack at the same time
what if kaiser wilhelm II took control of the netherlands after ww1?
BASED! 5/10 realistic
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Considering the German position, I wouldve expexted them to seize Baku. If they took it in late 1942 or 1943, I could see the germans restoring the fields and hence using them to push far enough into the soviet union to capitulate. Most likely they would connect the fronts with japan if they got as far as you said. Though even in this state, the allies would win due to owning literally the rest of the globes resources.
Poland would probably not get all of that land because it was largely german and the allies where not as enthusiastic about deporting ethnic groups
you forgot to mention asia decolonisation especially south east asia
their independence would be delayed
the Soviet union would absolutely collapse, for one, without American lend lease or much less going to the soviet union, this means much of their industry in Ukraine and Belarus and other occupied territories would be taken by the Germans, rather than being successfully transported (it is documented that some factories were only successfully moved within a number of days, before the Germans reached their initial location)
Secondly, Yes the soviets could conscript millions upon millions, but also due to lend lease, (in which they got tens to hundreds of thousands of vehicles) they were able to mechanize any of it and eventually put up a defense and eventually win, without this, Germans continue to steamroll the soviets.
Thirdly, the US wouldn't join the war unless attacked, the US at this time was isolationist and anti war, the only reason why they joined WW2 was due to them being attacked, which wouldn't happen in this timeline as they wouldn't be attacked, FDR if he even tried to get the US involved would most likely get impeached as even the house and senate was very much anti war
In summary, the Soviet Union dies.
4/10 on realism for me. i don’t see a scenario where china doesn’t stomp the japanese if they committed to a siberia campaign. as for the soviets i agreed until the end. the soviets would steamroll germany in the later half of the war, lendlease or not because of allied bombing destroying german industry. while the allies definitely get more land as they can focus all of their resources into europe it wouldn’t be to the full extent of the balkans. remember in our timeline stalin guaranteed “free and fair” elections in eastern europe. just because the allies might have reached berlin first doesn’t mean they can save poland. the soviets will demand an occupied strip of germany as they definitely lost more in this timeline than ours. if the allies say no i can’t see the soviets invading but i can see a ww3 once the soviets get their own fission bombs. i understand the focus is japan but this is a very very important point of history.
but definitely a 10/10 on the entertaining side!
edit: i forgot to mention the whole commie china thing. commie china wins no matter what, they had the support of the people and had been preparing to backstab the KMT for a while. and as shown in history of china either you need the support of the people or the fear of the people which the KMT had neither of
Id actually give this a 8-9 for realism as far as the result goes. Things like Bulgaria keeping its monarch and Poland getting so much of Germany seem wrong to me but other than women nitpicky stuff this ones pretty solid
China is supported by Russia in armaments not the US. So attacking Russia with full force simultaneously with Germany will cripple China also.
6/10 in realism, it very depends on how you measure Soviet chances against Germany and Japan without Lend-Lease, because i think that scenario in which they collapse in such situation is possible
The soviets would be completely unable to motorize themselves, meaning that they could have 10 million troops, but they would be uncoordinated and unable to put up a defense against the Germans. removing lend lease would see the soviets collapse by 1944 most likely
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Regarding Realism I think all lines up except for Japan advancing deep into Siberia 6-7/10
Well if japan invaded the ussr they definitely wouldnt have tanks lookin that well and it prolly wouldnt be worth it
Make it so Japan join the allies and helped the United States and Soviet Union France and Poland and United Kingdom defeat Germany
o this is really hard to rate the realism of, Japan would have never attacked the soviets and even if they did I don't think they will get that far and if Poland gets east Prussia I don't think they will get eastern Germany as that was Stalin's idea and also the soviets started winning the war when american aid was minimal American aid wasn't that big until 1943/1944 and I think you overestimated how much the Siberian divisions did, as even without them the soviets will still be able to push but less so in my opinion it's a 6/10
Honestly...
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maybe like a 4
the soviets and the americans would already go to war with japan
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Thanks to Josh Sullivan for making alt History so petty now. It's ALTERNATIVE history it's not supposed to be realistic. Nothing that didn't happen is more realistic than anything else that didn't happen since it both didn't happen.
You really shouldn't focus on "realism" by asking how realistic something was in my opinion. It really takes away a bit of the immersion if you mention how things could've never happened actually.
5/10 the Chinese communists were too powerful to just be defeated and most of their equipment came from captured japanese shipments the soviets handle them, not direct Soviet help
Bro said at 0:00 "nuh uh" the long way😂
Realism 5. I don't think japan and their infantry army would be that effective that they could take all of the trans siberian railway. In otl they couldn't even defeat a country that had no tanks more modern than 1920s foreign imports, no air force, no navy, ww1 era infantry equipment and which was in a civil war. To me this makes the idea that the japanese would be able to push far into soviet siberia in one of the coldest winters in human history laughable. Also i severely doubt iraq would somehow have a different outcome than otl. I'm 99.99% sure britain would still take it over within a couple of weeks. And even if they don't, iraq has neither a big navy nor a big army to prevent shipping getting through iran. And this is the 1940s they can't larp as houthis and use drones on the sea. As for lend lease to murmansk why wouldn't they simply switch to archangelsk?
Also i think mao would win in essentially any scenario where china gets exhausted fighting japan, short of direct US military intervention. Mao largely won because the kmt was extremely corrupt and because again, they were exhausted fighting japan, as well as the manchurian industry.
...please tell me you didn't just look at some wikipedia articles and hearts of iron and make a video based on those.
Poland borders are a bit BS. Current borders are result of USSR relocation of germans to East Germany, and Poles from occupied pre-war Eastern Poland. Poland did not claimed these lands, except some parts of Upper Silesia. So with independent Poland this wouldn't happen.
Why did u use ai art for the title?
Go outside
It's a CZcams video thumbnail, not an art gallery. Get a damned grip, you prissy artist.
I've seen multiple videos from multiple alt history youtubers about altering world War two recently and I'm kinda getting sick with the constant underestimating of the soviets and overestimating the impact of land lease
Lend lease was a massive factor. Yes, without it there is a chance of the Soviet Union collapsing. It wasn't guaranteed though, not by any stretch of the imagination.
One of the things that it is important to remember about American aid was that they sent industrial capital. So any production estimates of how much the Soviet Union would produce without the aid needs to take this into account.
They built an entire factory, I think in Deerborn, Michigan, and shipped it to rhe Soviet Union. That's one example that illustrates this point quite well. How much does the importation of American lathes increase Soviet production? How much does the mere fact that America sent various capital goods and skilled workers rather than the Soviet Union having to develop them, therefore allowing the union to specialise on military equipment impact production of war material? Another example is that the Soviet industy was so centralised that when they lost certain factories, mostly in the west as that was where the majority of their industrial production was, they simply could not produce that good without redirecting industrial capacity elsewhere. In the short term, this would entail using an existing factory to produce something that it was not intended for. The main factory that produced boots for the military was in Latvia, so when they lost the baltics, their boot production greatly decreased. How long would their reserves of boots last? How effective would the Soviet military be without boots? How long would it take to spool up production of boots elsewhere, and how many resources would that take from other aspects of the war effort?
The thing about lend lease early on is that it was targetted on specific shortages of things that the Soviets desperately needed, which allowed them to instead devote more effort to the war effort. Even butter was sent to the Soviet Union, with American civilians complaining about shortages of butter on the home front. How often did just having a little more butter or something like that prevent a beleaguered soldier from surrendering or fleeing because he has just that little bit more morale? I don't know, but I am willing to say probably more than once.
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Ayyy thats perfect, love to see that!
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Realism 6/10
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No way japan could push soviets that much, terrain is terrible, it's true that they might get pushed but it's too little do an effect, and us lend lease from Iran isn't effected since japan tries not to harm the allied convoys.
USSR still holds it's ground and eventually pushes the germans back while still holding it's ground in asia.
USA public opinion is against war so I don't see them joining the war.
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Soviet Anime xd
Problems: (I will add one when I find it)
1st problem: China
This is not the real map of chinese civil war, and in fact this is the map, that paradox used to make china look and play simpler.
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Empire not democracy 😂😂
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New video idea feel free to use it the world was forever changed when the tragic events of 9/11 never occurred. However, instead of the subsequent War on Terror, a different conflict reshaped global dynamics.
In 2008, tensions between NATO and the CSTO escalated dramatically following Russia's invasion of Georgia. President George W. Bush, under pressure to divert attention from the looming financial crisis, seized upon the invasion as a pretext for war. Claiming Russia was committing ethnic cleansing against Georgians and positioning missiles dangerously close to NATO borders, Bush rallied support for a decisive military intervention.
The ensuing conflict, World War III, pitted the Western alliance against the CSTO forces led by Russia. With no employment of nuclear weapons, the war was fought primarily through conventional means, albeit with devastating consequences.
Despite initial setbacks, the West managed to gain the upper hand due to superior technology and coordination among NATO members. The conflict brought immense destruction and loss of life, but ultimately, the West emerged victorious.
Meanwhile, China remained neutral during the conflict, wary of involving itself in a potentially catastrophic war. However, its ambitions were far from dormant. As Russia's power waned in the aftermath of defeat, China seized the opportunity to expand its influence.
In a bold move reminiscent of its historical expansionism, China annexed parts of Siberia, leveraging its economic prowess and strategic alliances to solidify control over the region. Simultaneously, North Korea's aggression towards the South led to a swift response from the West, with China opportunistically siding with the Western powers to avoid isolation.
The aftermath of World War III marked the beginning of a new Cold War, with China emerging as a formidable challenger to Western hegemony. Despite the USA's continued strength, China's economic and military ascendancy gradually shifted the balance of power in its favor.
Over time, China's influence expanded, fueled by economic dominance and strategic maneuvers in Siberia and North Korea. Eventually, the West found itself outmatched, unable to contend with China's growing might. Thus, in this alternate history, the tables turned, and the West ultimately succumbed to the rising power of China in the second Cold War.
And once again, you are ruining what is up to that point a great scenario with something so ludicrous that the entire video becomes essentially unwatchable. Your analysis on japanese internal politics on how they affected and could have affected their war efforts was absolutely perfect, but come on... getting oil from central asia? With 1940s technology? Dude... you really should stop nuking the fridge in EVERY VIDEO.
I said that that was their plan, not that they achieved it 100%. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough
@@rewriting-history You made that clear, but still, that's ludicrous. It's logistically completely impossible and they knew it. It's not delusional like Barbarossa, it's simply unfeasable and no one would even get such an idea, let alone develop a war plan around it.
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0:43 please stop spoilering 💀
I'm just teasing that a lot would change
@@rewriting-history then say that instead of telling the outcome straight away
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Very bad video, China was losing to Japan even in 1944 when Japan was fully embargoed and being bombed heavily. Japan would have no problem against China without an embargo.
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