I'd say he's trying to do both, which i honestly find a great addition to the story. I kinda wish the filmmakers kept that as it would've made the story more than just a cautionary tale about the destruction of the environment, it also would've been a commentary on greed, pride and the human condition.
@@worthybutter2004 This shows that the animators and writers wanted to make the movie faithful to the book, they had good ideas but Illumination got in the way and ruined it.
@@estrella-om7tu iirc one of the writers or directors of the lorax mentioned it wasn't illumination who cut the song but someone higher up in comcast (the parent company of Universal Pictures which owns Illumination).
@@conscripthornet4430 It makes sense, both Illumination and Universal belong to Comcast, someone higher up wouldn't allow a realistic song in a movie, which is ironic.
We all know why they changed it. Companies felt too called out and had to tone down that master piece of a song to a dumb kid who didn’t know any better because they also use that excuse My favorite line from the original is when the oncler says ‘who cares if something’s are dying’. Not just trees, but a whole ecosystem. How bad can I be is good for mainstream but the whole point of the Lorax is to teach a lesson to future generations, not sugar coating it
Biggering wasn’t too scary for some kids, it was too scary for some adults. Everyone knows the real reason illumination cut the song is because it betrayed corporate greed way too accurately. Kind of ironic that a company would cut a song about corporate greed because of corporate greed.
@@huntercool2232 Yes, but I ain't surprised. Corporate America sees environmentalism the same way MTV saw Kurt Cobain: a product that makes them a lot of money because it's anti-corporate. They don't actually give a damn about the environment. They only care about the ability to merchandise and commercialize an environmentalist message.
Funnier the fact, Onceler makes a fair points defending his "greed". Except in movie he is kind of monopoly and Illumination is in fully competitive environment.
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
It actually goes even further than that. It goes from "Who cares if a FEW TREES die?" to "Who cares if SOME THINGS are dying?" It goes from just brushing it off as just some trees, and not even very many, to outright acknowledging that animals are dying too, and it's not just a scarce handful either, but he still doesn't care.
@@Jason_UltimateI think both songs actually carry water very well. I actually think you could have the two songs together actually because Biggering seems to be about Onceler's insecurities while How bad can I be is about Oncelers corrupting. I saw one video talking about an analysis of how bad can I be and it points out how you actively see how he poisonshimself slowly and surely because he goes from "how bad can Ipossibly be" which in context makes it look like he thinks what he's about to conduct is harmless and wouldn't hurt at all to "HOW BAD CAN I POSSIBLY BE" where he now actively destroys things becausehe knows there's no limits and he wants to SEE just how bad he can be. One song is about the elation of knowing you wield power no one else can have, and the other is the bitterness of knowing no amount of power will truly accomplish what you need it to do. Make you feel whole.
Saw this comment on another Biggering reaction video, and I couldn't agree more: "Greed is what makes you say 'I want that thing.' Pride is what makes you look at the consequences and say 'Yeah, so?'"
love how ppl still apreciate biggering even after so many years, hope you can react to this is the place (tricky version) and you need a thneed from the lorax too, they were deleated as well
One thing that people keep saying about the Lorax in the cut song is that he’s focusing on saving the onceler. But I find the way that the Lorax is trying to save him so interesting and captivating, because the Lorax is telling the Oneceler to understand his actions, and see them for what they truly are, he’s desperately trying to wake up the Onceler but that is completely thrown out of the window when the Onceler ends up saying “our company is an animal that’s trying to survive”, the Onceler is completely aware, using the same commentary the Lorax gave him. He knows what he’s doing, he knows that things are dying, he knows the PR people are lying to save his skin, he knows everything, which made the Lorax in the end realize the Onceler was completely gone and a lost cause. If you watch the storyboard you get to see the Lorax’s realization far better but honestly the song really does well showing the sheer and terrifying decline of the Onceler who went from business enthusiast wanting to chase a dream of something greater, to a faceless businessman who only cares about “biggering”.
Exactly, the Lorax develops better as a character in this song, as does the Onceler, since in this song the Lorax not only wants to save the trees, he also wants to save the Onceler, that is why I love this part of the Lorax that must be analyzed. deeper
Illumination chickened out big time for not using this song. And the sad thing is, it's very likely because they didn't wanna call themselves out. This whole song is absolutely perfect for the movie's subject, and encapsulates the message and entire point of the original animated film from Dr Sues WAY better than "How Bad Can I be". It's intense, it's blunt, it's raw, it's harsh! It's literally pointing out the cruelty and egoism of greed, and how it stems from pride feeding into a person not wanting to admit they're doing wrong until it's too late. And the fact the LORAX in this version wants to SAVE the Onceler from his greed is so thought provoking and really lets his character shine. Because the Lorax WANTS to protect the world, he wants to respect life and help it. So it makes sense that he'd want to save the Onceler from crumbling under his own greed and selfishness. I can't believe we were robbed of a masterpiece like this, but go figure a film company wouldn't want to teach people how bad corporations tend to be.
How bad can i be is so, waterd down compared to biggering. Biggering is completly dark and loud, while How bad can i be is so positive u forget that its telling a warning story, cause its trying ti be fun over meaningful. Man this somg could have been grand in the film! #needsaliveactionremake
I, too, listen to soundtracks and make my own movies in my head. But that's because I'm an author, so it's usually my books that play in my head to the music. There's something amazing about soundtracks. They're emotional and without good music, a movie wouldn't hold the same weight. This song is amazing. I'm sad it was cut from the film. It would have had such an impact, but it also is super different than the rest of the songs, so I can see both sides of the arguement for keeping it and cutting it. I'm glad it was released, though, so we can enjoy it!
Definitely check out some of the wonderful animatics artists have created for Biggering! Visuals absolutely help, and it's really fun to see how different creaters choose to illustrate the piece.
@@Faren_ Yeah, exactly! Why aren't more people checking that out! One of my favourite Dr. Seuss stories ever and Hollywood just ruined it! But at least, we still have the 1972 TV special.
Replacing song that brings up the topic of greed and taking more than you need just because you can and nature of fittest with... song that only creates the vision of bringing up this topic for better income by SMACKING THE VERY IDEA AND IMPORTANCE OF THIS SONG WITH A HAMMER.
I like Biggering over How bad can I be. Biggering shows he was aware of his actions but seen it as a necessary evil to succeed his business. How bad can i be makes him seem like an ignorant idiot who was blind to the evil
I disagree the Lorax movie made by Illuminati to me is awful and BIGGERING is the biggest piece of proof to that fact. This movie is a butchered and watered down version of this incredible story, and I’m incredibly saddened that some children will be shown this movie over the original animated special. Which is objectively the better version of the story. I won’t judge you if you enjoyed the movie though. Glad you enjoyed what I didn’t.
O maior erro da Illumination foi ter divulgado essa música. Só de ouvi-la podemos ter a noção do quanto desproporcional ela é comparada há animação, diferente dá "será que eu sou ruim", que é uma música onde um jovem cararente de atenção da família e imaturo tenta enganar a própria mente de que o que ele faz não é errado pois é algo que não há como evitar, a bigeering por outro lado é a verdadeira essência do onceller, um cara sem empatia, ganancioso e sociopata, que está pronto para fazer qualquer coisa para poder crescer e satisfazer sua ganância, mesmo que ele precise matar animais, manipular a empresa, pagar os melhores advogados para defende-lo e contarem as maiores mentiras possíveis. Mas é claro que se a versão original do filme, junto com a música, fosse lançada, sem sombra de dúvidas que o filme seria a melhor crítica social sobre as empresas que fazem de tudo para ficarem por cima, só que se eles fizessem isso estariam dando um tiro no próprio pé, pois uma das empresas que fazem isso é a mesma que criou esse filme. Eles adulteraram a história dando uma infantilizada, mas cá entre nós, mudar um filme só para ganhar dinheiro "não é tão ruim assim" não é mesmo?
I really wish we could’ve gotten this song instead because “How Bad Can I Be” didn’t even touch on how corporations could be responsible for the planet’s death. I feel like the whole movie was putting responsibility on a generation that wasn’t even old enough to vote at the time. Now that generation is older and surprise surprise we figured out it’s not our fault regardless. Like we can do everything we can but without the people at the top pitching in and admitting they’re part of the problem our efforts are ultimately useless We also missed out on what could’ve been a banger on par with Hellfire or Deliver Us too
A lot of changes were made to the movie during development. I honestly think the original movie would have been amazing, and corporate greed ruined that, which is ironic for a Lorax movie
@@estrella-om7tu One thing they changed was making it so Ted only got a tree because his crush wanted it instead of actually wanting it himself, like he was going to originally
@@kyle--859 Another thing I remember is that Thneedville was going to be a dystopia where the citizens couldn't see the sun because of the pollution, they are consumerists and materialists, as you said, Ted was originally going to be a consumerist child and an egoist who wants to have the things he doesn't. possesses, originally he only wanted the tree to have something that the city does not have, that personality and original motivation made sense
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Johnny Cummings sounds like he wouldn't watch Steins Gate because he "doesn't have children", like he would let children watch Devilman Crybaby not understanding that animation is not just for children and traumatize them 🙄
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Annoyed you didn't really comment on any details of the vocal performance at all, especially considering the title of the video. Just sort of rambled about how music & visuals together are good… Okay?
I like how in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Lorax is trying to save the trees, but in “Biggering” he’s trying to save the Onceler.
I'd say he's trying to do both, which i honestly find a great addition to the story. I kinda wish the filmmakers kept that as it would've made the story more than just a cautionary tale about the destruction of the environment, it also would've been a commentary on greed, pride and the human condition.
@@worthybutter2004 This shows that the animators and writers wanted to make the movie faithful to the book, they had good ideas but Illumination got in the way and ruined it.
@@estrella-om7tu Unfortunately, yes.
@@estrella-om7tu iirc one of the writers or directors of the lorax mentioned it wasn't illumination who cut the song but someone higher up in comcast (the parent company of Universal Pictures which owns Illumination).
@@conscripthornet4430 It makes sense, both Illumination and Universal belong to Comcast, someone higher up wouldn't allow a realistic song in a movie, which is ironic.
We all know why they changed it. Companies felt too called out and had to tone down that master piece of a song to a dumb kid who didn’t know any better because they also use that excuse
My favorite line from the original is when the oncler says ‘who cares if something’s are dying’. Not just trees, but a whole ecosystem. How bad can I be is good for mainstream but the whole point of the Lorax is to teach a lesson to future generations, not sugar coating it
There's a metaphor for that... "They replaced mirror with photo of them after Photoshop because they didn't like the thing they saw in the mirror"
Biggering wasn’t too scary for some kids, it was too scary for some adults.
Everyone knows the real reason illumination cut the song is because it betrayed corporate greed way too accurately. Kind of ironic that a company would cut a song about corporate greed because of corporate greed.
In a movie about corporate greed
@@okimura690 Ironic isn’t it?
@@huntercool2232 Yes, but I ain't surprised. Corporate America sees environmentalism the same way MTV saw Kurt Cobain: a product that makes them a lot of money because it's anti-corporate. They don't actually give a damn about the environment. They only care about the ability to merchandise and commercialize an environmentalist message.
Oh the irony is so bad not even hemoglobin is that ironic.(like if you get the joke)
Funnier the fact, Onceler makes a fair points defending his "greed". Except in movie he is kind of monopoly and Illumination is in fully competitive environment.
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
It actually goes even further than that. It goes from "Who cares if a FEW TREES die?" to "Who cares if SOME THINGS are dying?"
It goes from just brushing it off as just some trees, and not even very many, to outright acknowledging that animals are dying too, and it's not just a scarce handful either, but he still doesn't care.
@@Jason_UltimateI think both songs actually carry water very well. I actually think you could have the two songs together actually because Biggering seems to be about Onceler's insecurities while How bad can I be is about Oncelers corrupting.
I saw one video talking about an analysis of how bad can I be and it points out how you actively see how he poisonshimself slowly and surely because he goes from "how bad can Ipossibly be" which in context makes it look like he thinks what he's about to conduct is harmless and wouldn't hurt at all to "HOW BAD CAN I POSSIBLY BE" where he now actively destroys things becausehe knows there's no limits and he wants to SEE just how bad he can be.
One song is about the elation of knowing you wield power no one else can have, and the other is the bitterness of knowing no amount of power will truly accomplish what you need it to do. Make you feel whole.
There is a storyboard on CZcams that provides great visuals to see how it would have been animated and provides great context. Great vid!
I believe it’s called Biggering Storyboard
It's not the actual Storyboard, it was said somewhere else it was a Storyboard for a school project
Which storyboard?
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@@ELREYDELENTAI ¡Sí, el guión gráfico de Natschema es el mejor!
Saw this comment on another Biggering reaction video, and I couldn't agree more:
"Greed is what makes you say 'I want that thing.' Pride is what makes you look at the consequences and say 'Yeah, so?'"
love how ppl still apreciate biggering even after so many years, hope you can react to this is the place (tricky version) and you need a thneed from the lorax too, they were deleated as well
Yes to this
One thing that people keep saying about the Lorax in the cut song is that he’s focusing on saving the onceler. But I find the way that the Lorax is trying to save him so interesting and captivating, because the Lorax is telling the Oneceler to understand his actions, and see them for what they truly are, he’s desperately trying to wake up the Onceler but that is completely thrown out of the window when the Onceler ends up saying “our company is an animal that’s trying to survive”, the Onceler is completely aware, using the same commentary the Lorax gave him. He knows what he’s doing, he knows that things are dying, he knows the PR people are lying to save his skin, he knows everything, which made the Lorax in the end realize the Onceler was completely gone and a lost cause. If you watch the storyboard you get to see the Lorax’s realization far better but honestly the song really does well showing the sheer and terrifying decline of the Onceler who went from business enthusiast wanting to chase a dream of something greater, to a faceless businessman who only cares about “biggering”.
Exactly, the Lorax develops better as a character in this song, as does the Onceler, since in this song the Lorax not only wants to save the trees, he also wants to save the Onceler, that is why I love this part of the Lorax that must be analyzed. deeper
Illumination chickened out big time for not using this song. And the sad thing is, it's very likely because they didn't wanna call themselves out.
This whole song is absolutely perfect for the movie's subject, and encapsulates the message and entire point of the original animated film from Dr Sues WAY better than "How Bad Can I be".
It's intense, it's blunt, it's raw, it's harsh! It's literally pointing out the cruelty and egoism of greed, and how it stems from pride feeding into a person not wanting to admit they're doing wrong until it's too late.
And the fact the LORAX in this version wants to SAVE the Onceler from his greed is so thought provoking and really lets his character shine. Because the Lorax WANTS to protect the world, he wants to respect life and help it. So it makes sense that he'd want to save the Onceler from crumbling under his own greed and selfishness.
I can't believe we were robbed of a masterpiece like this, but go figure a film company wouldn't want to teach people how bad corporations tend to be.
This song gives me straight goosebumps. Especially the part where The Lorax tries to save the Onceler, and the harmonies just hit.
How bad can i be is so, waterd down compared to biggering. Biggering is completly dark and loud, while How bad can i be is so positive u forget that its telling a warning story, cause its trying ti be fun over meaningful. Man this somg could have been grand in the film! #needsaliveactionremake
they should react to the other demo songs on the soundtrack that give an idea of how the plot was originally going to be
People would have remembered this movie more if it had this song in it
I, too, listen to soundtracks and make my own movies in my head. But that's because I'm an author, so it's usually my books that play in my head to the music. There's something amazing about soundtracks. They're emotional and without good music, a movie wouldn't hold the same weight. This song is amazing. I'm sad it was cut from the film. It would have had such an impact, but it also is super different than the rest of the songs, so I can see both sides of the arguement for keeping it and cutting it. I'm glad it was released, though, so we can enjoy it!
Definitely check out some of the wonderful animatics artists have created for Biggering! Visuals absolutely help, and it's really fun to see how different creaters choose to illustrate the piece.
The message in the original is way more real and would've hit way harder. "How Bad Can I Be?" portrays corporate greed as an innocent accident.
Funny that corporate greed ruined a movie about corporate greed
@@kyle--859 how ironic
There’s tons of artists who’ve done animatics to this song if you want an idea of visuals that could’ve worked with the song
Just thinking of soundtracks all I think of is the how to train your dragon soundtrack. Just… magical
great video and reaction 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Thank you guys for this 🫡
There's allot of Lessons i would want to learn
Great movie...watch it Johnny
It’s an awful movie. It completely misses the point of the book.
@@Faren_ Yeah, exactly! Why aren't more people checking that out! One of my favourite Dr. Seuss stories ever and Hollywood just ruined it!
But at least, we still have the 1972 TV special.
@@Faren_right
Replacing song that brings up the topic of greed and taking more than you need just because you can and nature of fittest with... song that only creates the vision of bringing up this topic for better income by SMACKING THE VERY IDEA AND IMPORTANCE OF THIS SONG WITH A HAMMER.
I like Biggering over How bad can I be. Biggering shows he was aware of his actions but seen it as a necessary evil to succeed his business.
How bad can i be makes him seem like an ignorant idiot who was blind to the evil
Illumination wanting a more marketable song that doesn't call them out? No way
I disagree the Lorax movie made by Illuminati to me is awful and BIGGERING is the biggest piece of proof to that fact. This movie is a butchered and watered down version of this incredible story, and I’m incredibly saddened that some children will be shown this movie over the original animated special. Which is objectively the better version of the story.
I won’t judge you if you enjoyed the movie though. Glad you enjoyed what I didn’t.
O maior erro da Illumination foi ter divulgado essa música. Só de ouvi-la podemos ter a noção do quanto desproporcional ela é comparada há animação, diferente dá "será que eu sou ruim", que é uma música onde um jovem cararente de atenção da família e imaturo tenta enganar a própria mente de que o que ele faz não é errado pois é algo que não há como evitar, a bigeering por outro lado é a verdadeira essência do onceller, um cara sem empatia, ganancioso e sociopata, que está pronto para fazer qualquer coisa para poder crescer e satisfazer sua ganância, mesmo que ele precise matar animais, manipular a empresa, pagar os melhores advogados para defende-lo e contarem as maiores mentiras possíveis. Mas é claro que se a versão original do filme, junto com a música, fosse lançada, sem sombra de dúvidas que o filme seria a melhor crítica social sobre as empresas que fazem de tudo para ficarem por cima, só que se eles fizessem isso estariam dando um tiro no próprio pé, pois uma das empresas que fazem isso é a mesma que criou esse filme. Eles adulteraram a história dando uma infantilizada, mas cá entre nós, mudar um filme só para ganhar dinheiro "não é tão ruim assim" não é mesmo?
I really wish we could’ve gotten this song instead because “How Bad Can I Be” didn’t even touch on how corporations could be responsible for the planet’s death. I feel like the whole movie was putting responsibility on a generation that wasn’t even old enough to vote at the time. Now that generation is older and surprise surprise we figured out it’s not our fault regardless. Like we can do everything we can but without the people at the top pitching in and admitting they’re part of the problem our efforts are ultimately useless
We also missed out on what could’ve been a banger on par with Hellfire or Deliver Us too
Plz reacf to thenvile from the lorax it has alot of "omg is this a chruch choir"
you mean the demo version of thneedville
@@estrella-om7tu yea
Jhonny, you are not missing out on much
Btw, not a demo singer, that's actually Ed Helms singing
it is a demo singer from the 88, Ed helms sounds different
@@dann304it’s a guy called Gabriel Mann.
No need to scold Johnny, The movie turned out to be mid. Had the song been included however, it might not have been.
A lot of changes were made to the movie during development. I honestly think the original movie would have been amazing, and corporate greed ruined that, which is ironic for a Lorax movie
@@kyle--859 like what changes
@@estrella-om7tu One thing they changed was making it so Ted only got a tree because his crush wanted it instead of actually wanting it himself, like he was going to originally
@@kyle--859 Another thing I remember is that Thneedville was going to be a dystopia where the citizens couldn't see the sun because of the pollution, they are consumerists and materialists, as you said, Ted was originally going to be a consumerist child and an egoist who wants to have the things he doesn't. possesses, originally he only wanted the tree to have something that the city does not have, that personality and original motivation made sense
@@estrella-om7tu Yeah, there was also a song about that
existe un storybord muy bueno de esta cancion!!
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I checked,seems I would have to take lessons when there's money
@@Bennyyoungmusicyou think everything’s free? Lol
the original film is better also it's lame this song never was in the movie
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Hi.. would appreciate if you could also react to SB19 MAPA lyric vid. And live Performance of this in WISHBUS USA! It's an amazing song 😊 ❤thank you so much in adv😊Hi frm Switzerland ❤
The artist of "How Bad Can I Be?" is the same of "Biggering"
Onceler was short sighted
The film is not fantastic honestly😅
It could've been.
@@billlupin8345 like that, context
Johnny Cummings sounds like he wouldn't watch Steins Gate because he "doesn't have children", like he would let children watch Devilman Crybaby not understanding that animation is not just for children and traumatize them 🙄
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0:29 you can still watch a movie and not have kids tf?
0:35 no, I’m gonna scroll you for liking the film
Annoyed you didn't really comment on any details of the vocal performance at all, especially considering the title of the video. Just sort of rambled about how music & visuals together are good… Okay?
I hate this reaction, why pause and interrupt the music so much. Do one listen, give your thoughts and let that be that
this was a year ago when we first started - we've learned a lot since then :)