BMW Convertible E93 Hardtop Roof not opening... Fault finding and repair.
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This BMW Convertible came to me with an inoperative hard top roof, some warning popping up for the roof was also visible in the instrument cluster, and i-Drive...
On the module for the roof, was the code A697
A bit of testing and investigation, and the problem was found...
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Maic Salazar just did a video on a BMW Z4 convertible not opening. Turned out to be something simple like the parcel tray being in the up position and not the down. Driving a convertible in the UK means you're an eternal optimist lol
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Not wrong...
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Is there a sensor for that ?
For the tray?
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Thanks for this video. We had same vehicle in for same problem: inop trunk via remote and button, inop top. Able to power trunk lid open, fault for trunk partition. Damage to wiring in left rear same area, except ours was caused by a damaged left rear shock mount that let the shock extend into the trunk and went right through the wiring harness. Multiple damaged and severed wiring. Preparing his estimate as I write this; hopefully I can trick the sensor into believing the trunk lid and partition is closed so we can open the top enough to access the wiring better.
Excellent video, and thank you.
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Great find!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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🤣🤣the panick when it won’t go up. Great work, keep them coming 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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I really panicked lol...
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Nice repair, coincidentally I had exactly the same incident yesterday on my e90. Some genius had worked on the passenger door and installed the door loom with a 180 degree twist. This meant the loom was not where it should be and the door stay was sawing through the loom causing the handle LED to stop working 🙄. Lucky I caught it when I did as it was chopping through the large window motor wires too..
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Luis excellent excellent video. Do you know why? Because you show mistakes as well. This is real life repair. I personally hate thoes who just let's say show damaged wire and everything works. This is the real one this is the real deal. THX so much. I love this to bits.
Thanks Tamás...
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Luis, AWESOME video brother u r an incredible technician who dose not full around but fixes the problem the right way thanks for what u do and as always enjoyable to learn from the master which you are indeed. cheeeers
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Thanks... for watching and for your comment!
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Great video, really enjoyed the step by step investigation and resolving. A car shelter would be handy in rainy England. Thanks again
Yes, it would be handy...😊
Thanks!
I got me a scratch and dent one of these for about 4k and did 2k worth of repairs. Honestly really happy with it for what i paid. Im too scared to try the roof thing though, what if i cant close it lol
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Not sure which or maybe all models of this before 2011 had serious battery issue with cables and some box attached to it! BMW had it for months.
Extreme investigate,found problem on deep under and then fix it.of course the main reason was owner didn't make maintance of the roof robot on time then someone made a bad repair before you.was an easy fix for you thanks for sharing with us
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Amazing video, very knowledgeable stuff to learn from you. Oddly enough, just got myself 2008 E93 convertible and your video shows up on my screen. Simply Amazing and reminder if anything happens in future (Lets hope I don't get to face it anyway).
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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That was a great repair Luis . I know from experience that it are tricky things those convertible roofs . Good thinking at the end when the roof was not closing . Who knows how long that roof hasn´t been used so lubricating every moving bit was the right thing to do . The frustration when the roof opened and didn´t close I fully understand . I would use some " working words " as well .
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Never heard that one before...
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I am so sorry, but I laughed so hard xD. I had some panics like this as well and now learn that I am not alone in facing these adventures.
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It was a bit scary on that day...lol
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Great Video and I liked your hall sensor test sir , the bit with the roof had me laughing, I've been there as well !! good find with the wiring as well.
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Thanks!
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Top job as always mate , I felt your pain here when that thing stopped going 😋👍
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Thank Louise great help stuck with roof problem but found some good indicators to look for.
Best video on this issue. Regards
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Thank you so much by helping us with your videos.
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Thanks... for watching and for your comment!
Thanks for the video! You're a great troubleshooter.
Thanks!
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Finally closed before rain 🌧️ comes enjoy this video I know this video thru u staying England
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Impressive diagnosis work. Very good!
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Hi, I've been watching your videos for a while in order to figure out how to fix some stuff on my E93. The hardtop got stuck in "Service position" as I was cleaning and moisturizing the rubber seals and lubed the joints. Then I had to manually put it down, with the help of a friend. Instead of using long bent nose pliers like any tutorial shows, my friend used an oil filter remover "wrench" and somehow managed to pull and force those Coupling hydraulic cylinders in and off we went, car was good. The roof never worked since as the motor was knackered. New motor installed, pumping into nothingness :/
Finally, saw that the micro switches for the "Interlocking ring buckle closed" were on "Yes" in the meantime, whilst they were supposed to be on "No".
Further investigation, the tiny metal pieces are now bent and one of the plastic lever arms is broken so the microswitches don't get activated and hence, the roof doesn't work. Do you have any advice on how to proceed further? Each entire side, costs about £150 to be bought second hand, just for the broken plastic arm. Cheers
Can you not fabricate something?
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@@LMAutoRepairs I managed to find a breaking ad from someone that was willing to take them apart and i picked them up. Took almost 2 hours to install as I had to lift the top manually and close it down afterwards, to have access and replace them on the car. Works now!
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Another comprehensive Trace,Find and Repair. You should Definitely add a "STRESS" payment to your final bill on this one. 😂 See you in the next one. 👍
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Thanks!
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Great detailed video.
I have same problem [Roof Restained] poping up on the screen.
Let me try your technique and see what's up😎
Sorry you had to do it on a rainy day
Thanks Bro
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Thank you for another great video!!!
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Thank you for the video bro! excellent troubleshooting. I have a similar issue with my top. supposedly the dealer replaced the footwell and told that the top needs to be resync in order for it to work again. they want to keep my car for a week for repairs. not sure if this is true. the main problem is getting to the dealer. I live about 100 miles away.
If the dealer replaced the footwell module, should have programmed to the car, once that done, everything should work as it should...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Which warning light is most common in your videos?
LOW FUEL!!!!!! 🤣⛽
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No doubt on that one...
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Good effort and good job
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Thanks!
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Scary moments well done
Indeed...
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Great job. There should be a manual mechanisam to close the roof i think? In case motors fail.
There is a way... but takes time... something I didn't have...😋
Thank you for watching!
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Hi, you say there is a way to close the roof manually. Do you know if it can be opened manually? I need to open the roof on my 4 series to be able to get at the rear window mechanism and the roof won't go down because I can't dropthe window
Yes... there is a manual way yo open it...
Check the users manual... Will might show in there how is done... as can differ from car to car...
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks. I couldn't see it but I will have a other look
Nope, nothing in the Owners Manual. Any ideas anyone?
You are a legend!
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Hi buddy hope your well, my e93 has a roof not latched problem, can I bring it to you to get it sorted please
Great video Thank You
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Thanks!
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Thanks!
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Bro can u maybe connect me please? My can doesn’t work with without service stand when i do at me Autel , otherwise with te service stand stap by stap going but roof doesn’t close the last stap. I am also a car mechanic owner but i cant fiend it
Thank you so much
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the issue i have is the windows don't go up and boot doesn't open when the top goes down, I get code A6A1 CTM - DRIVE FOR HARDTOP LOCKING, what do you think could be the issue?
Hi i have the same car roof is working but back windows are not working and the front windows work but only off a computer
I have the exact issue on my e93, the warning gonging is driving me crazy, how much you charge for repair?
Hey man, nice video my code is a little bit different for me it is code 00A691 “Rear module opened Hall sensor” i looked everywhere and don’t know where it’s located and what it is.
did you fix the issue now ? mine is the same issue just now
Hi there,where are you based as I have a problem with my E93 and was wondering if you could repair it
How do I preform an emergency close on my 2009, BMW convertible hardtop. I purchased a manual and it said the release screw was on the left bottom of the hydraulic pump. it is not there. HELP-HELP-HELP-HELP
Nice fix but the faulty fuel gauge is still there 😁stay safe
Anyone can fix that...😋
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That is so true 🤣
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Thankyou brother
Why do people always bring the car so low on fuel ! It’s as if they’ve stopped caring completely because there’s an issue on the car
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Where do you live and how much will cost to fix my E93? Same issue, the roof unlock but doesn't want to go down
Hi' great video. What was the model no. Of the Autel unit that you used in this video?
MS908P
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Where are you located mate? I also get factional fault error message on my BMW e93. Convertible roof won't Open.
I have rattling noise with my roof when closed... please help
I have a 2009 335i, E93 hardtop convertible. There was a hydraulic leak which leaked down Into the drunk on the drivers side. For a log while I could add hydraulic fluid and the top would operate for about 10 times. Now the top is down and will not close. I can add fluid and it will start to close but blows out all the fluid and stops. I assume the leek got larger.
Can anyone tell me how to access the hydraulic cylinder on the driver side near the trunk?
1. Can you offer some advice?
2. How do I operate the top manually?
Thanks in advance,
I never want to see hard top controller has failed
What scan program are you using. I’m
Sitting at my car now where I think something is in the way in the trunk.
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Autel MS908P
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I have rhe same problem....roof either won't fully open or close. I had to keep trying to open and close until eventually it closed, but dare not try to open again...the fault is erratic. Do you think lubricating everything that you did was definitely the solution to the problem? I don't get any faults showing on my very basic fault code reader perhaps something more sophisticated might identify the problem what do you think
A good lubrication definitely worth a try...
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Hey hun do u fix cars ?
am having the same kind of problem right now as my roof come up in the air and won't go down the red light on the switch keep flashing no matter what i try i cannot get it to work windows are down roof is stuck in the air
You can close it manually...
Scan the car and check live data to understand what is preventing the system from working correctly...
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Hi mate my e93 has issue with front windows going up and down on clicks slowly slowly, and roof no longer goes down, some suggested it has problem with FRM, some said it has electric issue, can you help please, it did open before but stuck in the last position where it wouldn’t go inside the boot
Scan the car... that's your best chance to find out what is going on...
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@@LMAutoRepairs is there any chance I can bring it to you for repairs? Where in Uk are you mate
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I do this stuff as a part time... of my days off... sorry...
Once you get is scanned, and live data analysed, you should be left with a good idea of what the issue might be...
Hi mate, what if it take longer time to close than open, what could be the issue? Oil level I check, roof closed position, oil level at top of plus sign....roof closing time around 4 minutes long.
Bad pump?
Valves not opening correctly?
Difficult to tell without proper testing...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank mate, since after I get back my car & test on it..it was ONLY the switch that caused the slowness problem, meaning something wrong on the switch closing or push down, the button not in good condition & it not engage the roof to close....
Nice you found the issue...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks mate ❤️
show the position of the valve from the hydraulic pump I have an error A69E
Sounds like a hall sensor...
good joob men
Thank you!
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Oh and the scanner. What the brand, cost and where to buy it?
Autel MS908P...
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I bet the harness that runs up the side of the roof is chafed
So we have been working hard on this day and night top closes 80% and then dresses up and stays blinking red. We reset it by manually putting top in truck .. and when we start again everything looks awesome and then it stops 80% and we get the error code cowl panel micro switch unlocked , replaced the micro switch! Still having issues we been working on this to the late night hours and no go. We have been voltage testing all components let me know your thoughts 🙏
Wiring?
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Where would you start to look for wiring cowl panel? It works perfect up till about 80% and then it stops randomly and then computer says cowl micro switch unlocked and then goes into frezze models and then we can't make it work again unless we do a manual reset and clear the codes...
@@LMAutoRepairs okay where would you look by the windshield cowl?
@@LMAutoRepairs thank you so mcuh by the way
My rear roof locks won't lock
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the switch button in the center console cracked on the inside and will not work correctly to open top what to do? please help the weather is changing not so danm hot here in lousisana and i want to go top less oh yeah this isnt Dale, im Toni Lynn a friend using his computer lol
Your quickest option is probably replace the button that is broken...
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Which scanner model do you have please?
MS908P...
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Hi Luis where are you based and work? Because I would love your take on my car bmw 330d got a roof problem which opened but not fully and got stuck now the windows are not working and the roof isn't clicking into close.
Hope to hear from you soon
Have you had the car scanned to see what the trouble codes are?
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@@LMAutoRepairsToday ill be getting it scanned and will forward the codes to you to see how to go about it if thats OK?
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CONVERTIBLE TOP MODULE
A69A
A69B
A69C CTM
A69D CTM
A69E CTM
A69F CTM
A6A0 CTM
A6A4 CTM
A6A3 CTM
A6A1 CTM
A6A7 CTM
These are the codes coming up,
Currently my windows have stopped working front and rear and boot doesnt open without the key and the roof light is flashing red.
Hope you can help me here thanks 😊
Now that I have cleared these codes I am left with the following remaining...
A69A - valve 2 for rear module
A69B - Valve 3 for rear module
A69C - valve for coupling fastner
A69D - valve 1 for rear module
A69E - valve for roof shells
A6A7 - transport mode active (this is one thats caught me by surprise)
Thanks
Nice one... check those valves then...
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How much did you charge for this fix? I have the same problem and the same car.
Can't remember now...
Sorry...
Thank you for watching!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Care to share your business address? I'll see if I can drop my car with you for a fix. I live in Yorkshire near Leeds. Thank you.
I do this stuff as a part time...
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How can I message the guy in this video to do my car
If you watched the video, now you know how to do it yourself...
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What scanner are you using
Autel MS908P
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Thank you where are you located
Anybody got an Allan rench
hi my roof doesn't work for me I have a bmw like you I need help
This was not mine...
But, what have you done so far?
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What software is this?!
Which software are you referring to?
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Can you diagnose mine too 👀
Did the video not helped?
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes it’s helpful but I don’t have the diagnostic tool :(
Where are you located
Cambridgeshire...
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Or you could just take your manual key out of your FOB to open the trunk :P
Good luck with that...
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Yep, there is no keyhole 😂
Hello
My e93 sunroof problem
Have you scanned the car?
@@LMAutoRepairs sunroof close window can”t move
@@LMAutoRepairs yes
And?
Have you checked also live data?
Girl if my roof does not come up I will make it come up I promise you that much I know what I an m74 is
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Soft top in the UK? As useful as a chocolate t pot
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Never get why people say this, have you not noticed the 6-8 weeks we get with no rain in the summer the last 5-6 years? I rarely drive with my roof up May to September
Easy job. Another car with empty tank.
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take this is an auction car
Not sure on this one...
But possibly...
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Another car without fuel. Tell your customers to make sure they add £20 before drop off.
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@@LMAutoRepairs hey , those wires you resoldered , I know there was a good few , 8 I think , can u remember what they all for , I’m pretty sure I have the same issue , but my wiring is snapped in the boot near the strut mount , would be so helpful o know what they all for . Thanks man
No... I don't remember what they are for...
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@@LMAutoRepairs but obviously some for the roof function ?
I believe so...
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your hands are constantly IN THE WAY. cant' see what you are doing
Really?
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I have a 2009 335i, E93 hardtop convertible. There was a hydraulic leak which leaked down Into the drunk on the drivers side. For a log while I could add hydraulic fluid and the top would operate for about 10 times. Now the top is down and will not close. I can add fluid and it will start to close but blows out all the fluid and stops. I assume the leek got larger.
Can anyone tell me how to access the hydraulic cylinder on the driver side near the trunk?
1. Can you offer some advice?
2. How do I operate the top manually?
Thanks in advance,
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