Trying Evapo-rust On The 280z's Spare Tire Well And A Roadtrip!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- I wanted to try Evapo-rust on the 280z's rusty spare wheel well to see if it can be saved. Unfortunately there was way more rust in that area than it first seemed. I'm not sure how to proceed with that just yet so Lila and I decided to drive 14 hours to pick up a new roof for the Datsun. That should save me a ton of time!
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Blox gear looks good!! Roof looks good!! Keep the wheel well! Let’s go😊
Evaporust is good for dipping rusty parts. You need a rust converter for any remaining rust after you wire brushed......
I see that now. I didn't realize it when I picked it up. I saw some videos of guys soaking rags in it to keep it wet on panels and seemed to work good, but for less rust than I found. I also didn't think there would be holes so....
Spare tire well resurrected classics…all brand new metal just weld in
Yeah, I was thinking of a complete replacement too. Even a used one (rust free) from a donor car would save a LOT of time over trying to patch up cancerous skin. It's a shame the trunk from the same 240z didn't come home with the roof.
I looked at that as an option. Problem is, it's a 240z style replacement (they say it fits 240z-280z and while its technically true they aren't the same). The 280z spare tire well is different, its shallower to allow for a large gas tank. The OEM gas tank on the 280z won't fit with the 240z style well so then I would have to find a 240z gas tank. I couldn't find anyone selling an actual 280z replacement panel.
Yeah unfortunately I haven't been able to find a good used 280z spare tire well at this point.
I ended up using a few gals of evaporust for random stuff around the car like the seat brackets and stuff its great if you have a big ol storage bucket that's wide and shallow I kept it around for like 5 months and just kept using it, I still did have to clean stuff with a strip disk but you know the inside has been hit as well
Yeah I think that's whats going to happen with this evaporust. Just leave small stuff to soak in it as needed.
Nice video again! Liked the road trip part❤. Is it possible to find a whole new wheel well? Shaping the well seems challenging. As for the roof skin, I would keep it as much factory as possible. Not having a sunroof luckily gives you back some rigidity though. In the C pillar there is a seam where the roof skin is welded. On old cars it is filled with lead. Jared Pink of Questionable Garage recently featured it in a video of his '70 sport satellite project. You should check that out. Good luck!
Yeah I gotta check what to do with the lead. Not sure if it can just be melted out with a torch? I'm assuming I don't want to grind it off 😆
I’m excited to see an update, what a great deal on the roof skin.
Jimmy Oakes has a video replacing just the roof skin but it’s for an s13, check it out. There are probably a lot of similarities that also apply to the z.
With the spare tire well I think it would be cool if you just cut out the bottom and made it deeper to fit your aftermarket wheels so you can have a spare.
Problem with making it deeper is the gas tank is there. I did think of that though.
@@BLOKgarage bummer, I didn’t think of that, I’m sure you’ll be able to figure something out
The best part of fabrication is if I mess it up I can just start over
Take another road trip, out to California, and find a decent tub replacement. If it was mine, I'd put a flat sheet of metal down with some beads, and run a fuel cell. If your not gonna run a spare, why not.
Cali is a bit far 😆
Replacement panel would be ideal but a flat piece of sheet metal is easier...
love the video! have you thought about a older mustang tank where its a top flange mount ?
@automotivemindset did that. It looks like a good setup. I'd prefer to keep the stock tank though if I can.
What if you soaked shop towels or rags with the evaporust, laid them out in the areas you want to treat, then cover those with plastic to keep them from drying out so bad?
I saw some videos of people doing exactly that and it looked like it works well.
Thank you for taking us on your journey. I haven't done anything close to what you have done, but could you just get rid of the entire wheel well? Will the ride height remain the same? What do you think, does it instead take too much time and work to design and manufacture some kind of diffuser, or a slightly rising floor at least there. Does that suit the style at all?
That is certainly an option...
How much is a replacement wheel well? I think for me that would determine if I bought one or patched it. I had good experience with Evaporust, but I used it on body mounts and hardware, mostly. That roof skin was a lucky find! I did a roof replacement on my old S10 pickup (It came cut for a convertible top conversion) and I cut the outer sheet metal away so I could weld the inner pieces together, and then weld tthe outer sheet metal back on over it. This gave me 3 weld points that were staggered....but the rear wall was warped and I ended up finding a deal on a new cab, so I can't tell you how it was structurally.
Replacement would be best. Unfortunately I can't find a company that sells repop 280z style wheel well (they all are the 240z style) and haven't found a good used that I would want to pick up.
Brother, Ospho by Skyco is your friend. It will take that rust right up. Better for dipping, at least that's what I use it for, however applying it on with a brush is good too. Leave it on over night, wash with WD40. It will turn that rust to gunmetal gray. youtube Kris Clark , he has a video on this stuff. It really is amazing, so give it a shot! Also, don't remove the undercoating under the car if its good. According to Wick Humble, author of the excellent book 'How to restore your Datsun Zcar', he says to leave the undercoating alone on there if there is no evidence of cancer and rot, and to only repair and replace the areas that have the rust damage. And he also states that Nissan put the undercoat on there more for the purposes of sound insulation and not for rust. And the rust that you removed from the spare tire area had near perfect metal underneath, that's pretty good to last for over 40 years. It did its job well even it was for another purpose. Also, Surface Shield is excellent to apply to areas underneath. Great project Z. Keep it up! 💯
Some others mentioned Ospho too. I found the Evaporust locally after people mentioned it so figured I'd try that. I'll probably pick up so Ospho though and try that.
I keep going back and forth on the undercoating. My original plan was to leave it if it looked good but then I thought it would be best to remove it in case there's rust hidden. However, with how the underside of the spare tire well looked compared to the top side, that's a good indicator of how well it worked.
@@BLOKgarage Agreed. Plus, it seems that the aftermarket cheapo rubberized undercoating does tend to let moisture get up underneath of it and the rust starts spreading. Trial and error I suppose.
I'll be following more of your videos. I just picked up yet another Z, this time 77. Has the dealership sunroof like your, but I plan to keep mine as it's on really good shape.
it would save me a ton of time to not remove all the old undercoating