You Can't Call Anime "Mid" Anymore
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Gege wrote JJK 0 before JJK. It was pretty much a prototype. He followed your usual shonen plot to see how well he can deliver it. He improved in writing since.
Huh. Interesting
@@ArcaellusV427 people liked jjk 0 so shounen jump got him onboard for jjk
@@ayushjha6637 Ah that makes sense
Garnt doesnt feel like it affects anything probably b/c we are only now really seeing the relevance of it during the current arc of the manga. Before this it's true the JJK 0 volume really didn't impact much aside from introducing Geto
@@joedorben3504 you are right about that but it had some relevance in Shibuya too
Calling something mid while it basically means ok, its like calling something mediocre it technically doesn't mean something bad but it just sounds insulting.
Yeah I really hate the word "mid".
Just because it sounds insulting, doesn't mean it actually is. Not everything has to be either great or shit. Yeah, I guess calling it good would be an alternative, but considering how cancerous this community is getting, calling it good is even seen as insulting
mid, mediocre, ok, and decent are all pretty much synonyms. people just get more upset over "mediocre" and "mid", in any case nobody should be getting their panties in a twist over someone "insulting" a series they like. I highly doubt Garnt would get angry if someone pointed out to him how insanely flawed One Piece is, for example.
@@D3rpyD3su it kinda does. there can be multiple words that have the same meaning, but have different impressions. that's what's called connotation. in this case negative connotation.
@@joedorben3504 They're not. Mid and mediocre means the same, but ok and decent is not. mid is 5, decent is 6-7. They're both somewhere in the "average" range, but mediocre is on the lower end, while decent is on the higher end. It's literally in the dictionary definition.
10 - I absolutely love it. Any flaws it has are negligible to me
9 - I enjoyed it and it impressed me a lot but there were one or two things that held it back slightly
8 - I liked it a lot but it could have been better in a couple places
7 - I liked it but it had some flaws or didn't capture my heart
6 - I enjoyed it but wasn't a huge fan
5 - Either kinda forgettable but not bad or had massive flaws along with good points
4 - Overall not a good experience
3 - Pretty bad but I like a couple things or had nostalgia
2 - There's maybe one redeeming feature, everything else is poorly done
1 - Why does this even exist?
0 - You know what, maybe Thanos was onto something...
Actually, i would rate 1 as "I hate that this show exists, and yet I cant help but keep watching how much of a dumpsterfire it is." The best kind of bile fascination
Then I’m guessing 0 “you don’t just ask why does this exist but you also want too make you wish this should never exist” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
10 is mp100 for me
I really like that this acknowledges that nothing is flawless
@@ConnerTravis1998 You know what, I'm gonna add a 0
The prequel is important for future arcs more than anything I’d say. Plus it gives us more familiarity with the second years.
@Edgy Purple Von Aegir (IsaacInfernape2000) It's funny, we've been dying to have that prequel for years but we'll never get it. We'll get NGNL S2 before that FE prequel...
@Anti-Lio Convoy Mid Ngl
For the Cursed speech guy yeah for sure, but I don't think we really learned much new stuff about the other 2.
I'll put it simply for the folks who don't understand, Anime fans can never be pleased and will hunt your ass down if you don't agree with them because apparently other people's opinion of a show soomehow affects their enjoyment of the media somewhow
every time they talk about anime (shounen anime to be specific) and that part became a highlight video. I look at the comment section, and I be like "OOOHHHHHHHHHHHH, popcorn time"
it will be a fuk-fest no matter what you say, anime fans are dead brain. Join us, be a fan of anime
You could apply that to practically anything really
pretty much.
You said "Sword Art Online" and everyone in the Western Hemisphere will hunt you down. lol
@@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs You are now my mortal enemy for saying "Sword art online."
Calling anything mid in this day and age leaves so much bad shit in others that it makes you realize that almost nothing can make anyone happy these days.
Or people nowadays just criticize everything! ... Point out flaws and flaws in everything
You can remove the "almost" from this comment and it'd make no difference
When opinion.
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@@divyanshkherde5019 it's more that people overrate virtually everything nowadays, they point out those flaws because most of the time they are huge problems in the story yet somehow it still gets rated at an average of 8.5 /10
It’s the same as calling something mediocre. It’s doesn’t mean it’s bad but the connotation of the word makes it seem like is
The meaning of "Mid" has pretty much changed and has become an insult
Facts
Mid doesnt even mean Average or OK anymore
most people just use it as another word for bad
Nah, there’s a reason places like IGN don’t give ratings under 8.
well I can understand why... when the average rating for anime's are like a 7/10 then yes being mid would be ''bad''
Especially when garnt says it
Mid just means it has just as many flaws as it has improvements, its not that its bad but just that its bound to have some ups and downs
"jjk0 didnt have any effect on the story"
people who know what's coming in s2 and s3: 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I watched the anime, read the manga, but didn't watch or read JJK 0, so I have no clue wtf ur talking abt
@@Zero-ef4sc ok
I hope so man became S1 felt pretty meh. I know it's to establish characters and the setting and the plot the overall arc of S1 really didnt seem that interesting to me. The movie was pretty good though.
@@Zero-ef4sc without jjk 0 Gojo getting sealed in the prison realm doesn’t make sense, how did you understand that?
@@salvor5764 it's like going to an art museum. You look at the paintings and the "hidden meanings" and you're like "Yeah, I get it. Totally..."
i think an important distinction to make on the whole "simple story" argument is that there is a difference between a simple story executed badly or even just okay, making it an average to boring experience, versus a simple storyline done well (or in an unconventional way) which can make for a really compelling watch
simple does not have to equal boring i think
Yup. That's DS to me. But probably the best example is Mob Psycho. The execution and writing per episode just slaps. But when you summarize what the plot is, it's simple and sounds boring.
@@pennyinheaven yeah, its simple, but amazingly well done, on the other hand ds is simple and kinda boring at least to me
If you can summarize a story in just a few sentences, that means the goal is very clear which is good. For example: the LotR trilogy is basically about this dude that was tasked to destroy a ring in the fires of Mount Doom, where it was forged. It's "simple" but it's considered to be one of the greatest films out there. It's about the journey not the destination
@@shormere1612 the characters and worldbuilding ans themes in lotr have a lot of complexity. You can't say a story is simple just by summarizing the plot. Simple stories are shallow in most regards.
@@shormere1612
Attack on Titan shows that the destination still matters otherwise the journey means nothing.
We can bend the rules for the sake of a convenient argument but simplicity, despite not inherently bad, is still simplicity and takes little effort.
The argument of being self aware doesn't change the fact that it's still simple, you're admitting where the show or film's place in the visual medium is at, it will stay there as a result.
Also we need to differentiate "simplicity" and "a watered-down reductionist summary". "This show is basically about" vs "this show spends the entire time doing this one thing", aka about a third of shounen anime.
Epic fights and dramatic cool downs won't fool your audience if we're talking about simplicity.
I've been watching more slice of life anime which appear to be simple on the surface, but if you have trouble processing information and forming social algorithms like me, you'll notice an underlying complex emotional and mental fabric of their stories.
And heck, it's possible to combine both, something like Spiderverse or something from Pixar.
the movie actually informs a lot of the stuff that's gonna happen in season 2 of the show so I believe the films actually gonna age pretty well
"i love demon slayer the same reason like i watched porn" it's probably the funniest thing i heard in the whole podcast
And this is the same podcast where the phrase "Demon Slayer is the blowjob of anime" was spoken
@Edgy Purple Von Aegir (IsaacInfernape2000) it's normal tho when something is famous there will always be someone hate it. It's just how society works
I mean come on… demon slayer story is pretty generic. It looks pretty but the story sucks 😔 I gave it a season and it just doesn’t hit the same note that aot does.
@@warrior3220 you can’t compare the demon slayer story to aot, aot is on another level but the demon slayer anime definitely doesn’t suck, you should watch the mugen train movie and season 2 before judging it completely as the it gets way better imo. Most of season 1 was definitely generic until episode 19 but it gets way better and honestly the simple storyline is executed really well after season 1 so it doesn’t need to have a complex plot
i wouldn’t say demon slayer is a masterpiece but it’s really fun to watch in the least
I loved the movie. As the show gets farther along the events in the movie will mean way more imo. Just having okkotsu’s backstory is so important that it makes the movie worth it even though the movie is way more than that for me.
It just feels weird to say this film offers nothing to the main canon when factually thats incorrect even if Garnt isnt aware of why thats the case, and 2: its still a entertaining movie on its own and fleshes out the 2nd years that don't really get too much context in S1 and gives Yuta.
I get we just gotta let people have opinions, it just grinds my gears though when people make a half right statement about something because in their eyes they cant see why it matters.
@@TheCreed1217 yeah I agree I guess maybe people just don’t know it’s canon? oh well
@@1saylorr because we didnt reach Shibuya yet in the anime. Honestly the movie shouldve come out after Hidden Inventory
@@itsjustvin7630 Honestly I disagree. JJK 0 is needed in order to see the complete 180 of Geto's personality and ideals. Also since both Hidden Inventory and Shibuya will be adapted in one season, it'd be kinda awkward to just release the movie in the middle of both arcs mid season. But i'll give you the benefit of the doubt since this comment is over a year old and you probably didn't know that both arcs would be adapted in one season
@@sifiz467 I already knew and wouldve preferred 0 to be mixed with Hidden Inventory then we proceed to Shibuya
what does Garnt mean by “technically canon” bro it’s canon thru & thru… in season 1 they even talk about Yuta for a brief moment, JJK 0 gives an introduction to this mysterious character mentioned in S1 and his powers. it’s literally jujutsu kaisen but like 2 years earlier. 😂😂
I think he meant that it is not necessary to watch the movie. The new informations provided in JJK0 are not significantly relevant to the JJK TV show. You don't need to watch the movie to watch first or any upcoming seasons
@@manhattan1193 it is necessary because it is connected to shibuya and arcs after???? Tf
@@manhattan1193 idk. With what happened to Geto, it's a pretty big deal
@@manhattan1193 even moreso when current chapters have referenced the events in 0. Actually season 1 reference the Night Parade of 100 Demons which was the event in the movie
@@readbeforeyoureply64 Most of these ppl don’t read, so they wouldn’t know.
I personally use the Jello Apocalypse reviewing philosophy where something that is bad but enjoyable is a negative number. So Ex Arm is a -9/10
Holy shit that is a great idea, i always struggle to evalutate something like Valvrave but this metric is perfect for it.
@@noukan42 my rule of thumb is that -10 doesn't exist. if something were to be a -10 you're enjoying it to much for it be a negative value and it makes an underflow error and becomes a 10/10 again.
adds a bunch of context to the plot, the MC will be very relevant, sets up geto up very well and introduces the jjk cast. explained cursed speech man, developes maki pretty damn well, incredible main character. Think yall are just kind of numb to character writing, like you mention "why should i care" a lot. idk, i wasnt crying but i could see why people would, it pulled my heart for sure
If it doesnt immediately scream out to them why its important or if it isnt the 10/10 AoT they act like they can't pick up on subtleties. Mainly Garnt, but it is what is I guess.
JJK0 had plenty of new stuff, old stuff and teases for S2
If you haven’t watch a crap ton Shōnen then yeah. But I’ve seen this stuff so many times I was like eh it was ok.
See from what I am observing the people who have already read the manga are enjoying the jjk0 movie more than anime only maybe cuz you already know the characters and have a attachment to them because of what they do later in the story. I went to watch this movie blind and honestly it wasn't the quality I expected. I enjoyed the demon slayer movie more than jjk 0 even though I like jjk season1 more than demon slayer season 1. JJk 0 felt more like fan service to manga fans rather than it's own thing. It was still cool but yeah...
@@elpsykongroo1500 Frankly I think it was the wrong time to release 0. Had this come after Hidden Inventory it wouldve had more impact specifically between Geto and Gojo
@@elpsykongroo1500 also 0 came first in the manga as it was the draft for JJK.
You will appreciate Jujutsu Kaisen 0 once the anime has been adapted up to a certain point in the manga. I won't give it away but it changes your perception of certain characters. The events of Jujutsu kaisen 0 bleed into the main story in a big way. This movie will be appreciated more and more as the manga is adapted and is already loved by those who have read the source material
you couldnt have said it any better
But I think that is Garnt point as an anime only watcher. Maybe retroactively we will see it different. He feel it doesn't impact the series NOW.
Ive read the manga till date they don't it just felt like a side story(just 4 chapter manga come on)
Same problem with Toji arc
@@vishwaeshu9566 Bruh the Toji arc?
The arc that kicked off the whole story?
You ain't reading the same manga if you really think that.
@@vishwaeshu9566 didn't JJK 0 basically act as a semi-conclusion to Gojo's flashback arc? Cause Kenjaku is basically it's own thing (though they did hint that Geto is still in there)
The way Connor explained 7/10 and jujutsu kaisen is exactly how I feel but couldn’t put into words. I enjoyed it while I watched it but now a while after I finished it nothing compelled me so much that I don’t even remember much of the show at all, only slight fragments of the good bits.
connor comparing demon slayer to watching porn killed me
It makes sense tho hahahahaha
It's just not something special but still enjoyable kind of thing hahahaha
Story is definitely mid in demon slayers. Ufotable is able to animate and bring out emotion in every action scene that bring the character to life. You almost feel like you are in front of that fight scene and understand the character struggle. They did a good job at show casing the power of the Hashira and also the power of the demon. In both the Tengen and Rengoku, you felt their determination and how hard they were trying to just keep up with the demon. Ufotable does an amazing job at changing expression everything there is a clash of blades creating great flow in the fight.
At no point, if you did not read the manga, you are not sure if Rengoku was going to win or lose. That suspense was so strong and by the time you finally see Rengoku heavily breathing, you realizes that he is probably going to die is why that fight scene is much stronger then Juijitsu Kaisen last fight. Being a prequel does hurt it though since there was no suspense since we know who is going to live or die.
It’s not a prequel. A prequel is a story that precedes that of an earlier work. JJK came out after Tokyo Metropolitan Curse Technical School thus making it a sequel series. The issue is they gave anime watchers the sequel first
@@magma55100 What are you talking about? If Story B is the sequel of Story A, that makes Story A a prequel of Story B.
In literally every metric, TMCTS comes before JJK, making it a prequel. Not only was it released first, it's narratively first (what actually matters).
Stop talking about things you don't understand.
bit samui Look up the actual definition of prequel by any official dictionary
Prequel is a story where the event takes place before the original so yes it is a prequel
@@bitsamui5104 he got it mistaken cause of the hidden inventory arc which shows gojos past in the manga which will be animated in season 2
Personally, I also like using MAL's score system when rating anime. And I consider the word for each number more than the number itself when giving something a score.
MAL system is good, but I make it more so it to suit me more.
Wow, you're so profound and erudite
the thing is normally people don't watch anything that is below 6 or 7 cuz they don't want to waste time. So the 7's even tho they are good end up being called mid cuz that's the only thing they watch
I keep it simple
10 - I love it. Absolutely amazing
9 - Overall great with little flaws that don't even matter
8 - Great show with little flaws that hardly matter but still enjoyed it regardless
7 - Despite its flaws its still a good show and I can watch it again
6 - Still enjoyed it and barely good enough for me to rewatch it in the future
5 - Average show with some good moments. I may or may not rewatch it
4 - Below average show and will never rewatch unless with friends or family
3 - Did not enjoy it in any way
2 - Did not like it and a waste of time
1- I absolutely hated it
I give it a 6 or 5.5
10 - pretty good
9 - meh
8 - shit
7 - shit
6 - shit
5 - shit
4 - shit
3 - shit
2 - shit
1 - shit
@@minervaowl8298 huh
Rating the ratings
@@MrSkinnyWhale Sarcasm?
I think the timing of Jujutsu Kaisen 0 is important since even though the manga came out before the serialization, I think it was smart for 0 to come out after season 1 since I think 0 is going to be more important to season 2 content.
I would have preferred to know who Geto and Yuta were before season 1. It gives more importance to geto's character especially. He just came of as some random villain in season 1. It would have also been cool in the beginning to ask yourself how he's still alive like how the manga readers experienced it.
@@felix7720 but back then the manga readers weren't sure if 0 was even canon until it was clear. If anything Hidden Inventory shouldve been before 0
@@itsjustvin7630 That was pretty clear by the time Geto showed up with stiches across his forehead so I have no idea what you're talking about. It brought alot more excitement for me personally when the previous cast was reintroduced in season 1.
@@pomepau7082 It could have been episodes too. I just know alot of people who didn't care for Geto till they read 0 or continued reading from season 1.
@@felix7720 to you
I mean mid is shorter form of middle so people gonna assume its 5 or 6 out of 10. Plus i never seen "mid" used as compliment or neutral, it is used for insult. Also, i just finish the movie and its atleast 8/10.
jjk0 defenetly has great importance in the story. The events that happen here shaped the jjk world we see in the show and the event itself is mentioned multiple times, same as the main character which in the show was said to be almost as powerful as Gojo and had singlehandedly defeated the whole Kyoto school at the friendly competition. What happens in the movie isn't a continuation of the story but it explained everything that we already know in the show itself. Also, the main character here will be important later in the show (manga reader here 😅)
Nah. Aside from giving some context about geto and yuta, it really doesn't add any info or anything meaningful that makes me appreciate the series more. Nothing's wrong with it, but the fans overhyped it.
I'm a manga reader, yuta is not that important. Wym?
@@alfanscholz8663 Yuta is very important. He's Gojo's successor which is very relevant now. His backstory is very relevant in the arc that happens immediately after Shibuya. Maki's declaration that she wants to destroy the Zen'in clan is also very relevant after Shibuya. What happens to Geto also is the cause of everything that's happened in the story afterwards, both his death and Gojo's sentimentality.
I did watch in 4DX and it was crazy ,in the fights scenes I was just trying to read the subtitles 😅
It was a challenge ✨😆
Garnt: I don't care about the story if the animation slaps this hard.
*That's not what he said about God of Highschool*
Tbh god of highschool was mid af for anime onlys
Didn't explain shit
Rushed the plot as much as they could
Didn't have great characters (not memorable enough)
Animation cannot carry everything 😆
It's like they skipped the entire hashira and other trainings and straight went to battles only which would become boring without any backstory💀
@@mohammedarafatlone shit was below mid💀
If animation can carry a show then takt op would have been the best anime of fall 2021
Facts
But takt op is bad every aspect bruh
@@keyra423 that's what he is saying only animation cannot carry the show
I mean demon slayer got it, so why shouldn't takt op destiny
Demon slayer's anime is a good example of perfect execution. I remember reading the manga and feeling like i was always waiting for something because it is a very generic story. The anime however, especially season 2, basically condensed a full arc into 11 episodes and you add the insane level of animation. there was very little dead space if any in later episodes and because the actual arc only took 11 episodes it felt like a really fun ride but then you think about it and its the same formula as season 1.
My main issue with Demon Slayer as a whole and why it is objectively mediocre in the manga is that it is very bad at set up and payoff, especially in the long term. The most clear example of this is the use of breathing techniques/other capabilities where characters show a new technique that was not set up previously in any way and is convenient for the situation they need it in. e.g. basically every Zenitsu fight whether it's thunder breathing: 1st form thunder clap and flash, six fold, god-like speed and (not gonna say because manga spoilers). There is little attempt by the writer to stick to what they have so far and using it to solve problems. This is detrimental to the writing quality because it undermines the stakes while also ruining narrative consistency.
This is something that the Shibuya Incident arc in the manga of Jujutsu Kaisen does extremely well in that nearly everything that came before pays off in some way in that arc which is partially why it is objectively one of the best arcs in contemporary Shonen manga. No arc in Demon Slayer comes close.
Also if you have issue with me saying "Objectively" just watch the 1st hour of the following CZcams video link: czcams.com/video/95mL3us0HSQ/video.html
can't wait to see what series ufotable gonna support again, the success of the Fate and Demon Slayer are just too good...
OP needs to do this, instead of dragging out one chapter as one episode
@@edwardmillard4398 Trying to prove again that Demon Slayer is mid, when the plot is generally accepted as mid, in other words, generic. The show however is good, like really good (not exceptionally good) because the execution makes up for the supposedly lacking plot. The timing, pacing, music, shot composition, and stunning visuals complements the simple, emotion dependent generic shounen plot.
@@edwardmillard4398 i honestly just think its either capable of keeping my attention for a while at times, and other times boring as shit lmao
Hot take: 5/10 is average, the people who say 7/10 are mouth-breathers.
This is not a hot take, it's a fact
You can enjoy JJK0 on its own, however you do more get more out of it if say you read the manga. Mainly because it contextualizes alot of future events, and the bits of season 1 when characters briefly mention Yuta. I get how Garnt feels about it though, especially if you're anime-only.
10. This is a "perfect" series that genuinely makes me feel and think about topics, memories, and the world itself to such an extent that I can't help but read/watch it over and over.
9. This series is practically speaking one of the best things I'll probably every encounter, most likely a "founder" of a genre or theme or so revolutionary that you'll see it throughout the rest of its community. Easily something I consume for the joy that it brings.
8. A heartfelt and provocative work that makes me think about real life aspects and form opinions around those, usually ends up making the world around me seem far more enjoyable than before, however leaving it will cause some sort of depression as it leaves me still wanting more.
7. A series that would genuinely make me invested in its characters and themes, but just miss out on those points that I myself can't describe or understand. Would watch again, but maybe think about if it would fit someone else's taste before recommending it to them.
6. A generally mid-level work/creation that feels lackluster but still overall good. Most likely far too ambitious for its performance and maybe a bit too popular for its quality, overall an enjoyable piece of work.
5. Something that gives me nothing after leaving the series, however had some nice moments and memories around it, overall an enjoyable experience but leaning too much into its genres, mediums, and themes rather than giving a genuine world. Partly overlooked in retrospect and with moments of absurdism too far or reality too boring.
4. A work that I'd prefer not to watch but if it would ever be brought up into discussion, I would have multiple opinions of and about it. Generally lacking in terms of writing and worldbuilding with characters that often feel one note, and maybe too "small" in their own world.
3. A series that would often be so bad that it can be considered good would fall along a 3 out of ten. Particularly boring but with just enough intensity and mindlessness to be watched/consumed again.
2. A series that genuinely lessens the experience of its genre and misrepresents a facet of groups and people, to such an extent one often wonders whether or not one left the show dumber and more cynical/jaded as a result. Would rarely ever watch again, and if done so would most likely only be in a social setting to laugh at the work of art rather than genuinely appreciate it.
1. Not worthy enough to mention or discuss.
JJK0 will always be better for Manga readers than anime onlys. Ideally this movie should have come out after the first half of season 2 because there would be more context, at least for Geto's character. Tbh, when I read the Manga for this volume, it was I after I had read where season 2 might end and I still thought 0 was okay. The only reason I liked it was because of how much set up Gege had done and how well he incorporated this short story into a much bigger series.
I would advice anime onlys to make their final judgement on JJK after watching season 2 because that is the best the series has to offer (so far, but the current arc is wild right now). Trust me, the first season and movie, are baiting you into thinking this is a generic shonen. I fell for it really hard lol.
What an equally as exasperating and entertaining conversation on the conditions required to mark something as 5/10.
I think the reason why jjk 0 is...just okay, is because it falls into many more common anime tropes than the series does. The series itself goes out of its way to avoid them, while the movie leans into them heavily. I can look past it since Gege made the prequel before they had a clear idea of how and what jjk was going to be like.
This clip's going down in the history books as modern philosophers arguing over what defines "mid."
Jujutsu Kaisen feels real mid to me, I watched it for all the hype but it honestly doesn’t grab me because I don’t care about the characters.
Movie wise I liked Mugen Train more than JJK 0. But I prefer JJK over Demon Slayer. Side characters are not annoying and have depth. Because the stories in both shows is above average to enjoyable but the characters in JJK make it better than Demon Slayer for me.
Great
Mugen train is dogshit compared to jjk0
For me it's kinda opposite, demon slayers characters are phenomenal and a lot of them are unique (best example is muichiro or inosuke) but what jjk does better than demon slayer is probably suspense and story. But demon slayer got animation, characters, badass villains and fights, jjk to me is equal to demon slayer and both are just amazing to watch no matter what.
i prefer demon slayer. Both anime are known for their cool fight scenes, but imo, demon slayer has slightly better fight choreography and emotional impact than JJK
2:12 JJK Zero will make a lot more sense in how it relates further into the series. Yuta just doesn't play a big role yet...
Edit: This was really cool, one of my favorite operations ever done. Literally changed the tides of the war.
12:35 As a manga reader, I consider the anime a 9/10. I love the story to an extreme degree, but it can be confusing at times. The animation clarifies anything that doesn't make sense in the manga.
I think what JJK does better than other shounens right now, is the pacing. Never in the entire season or movie I felt bored or got something that wasn't moving the story forward. In the case of the movies I enjoy JJK 0 more than Mugen train for the same reason, pacing, of course the animation of Mugen was better, but getting to last part felt like a slugfest sometimes. Both great shows, very entertaining and enjoyable for different reasons.
I loved seeing the movie in the theater. I'm anime only, and I think it's worth getting more of the story on characters and events that are mentioned throughout season 1.
On the topic of "mid", I do feel it has a negative connotation. When i hear people use "mid", it feels (I don't know, just my feeling) that people are just trying to sound cool and "above" liking something that is popular.
I can understand this assuming you're an anime only, though I enjoyed it knowing the actual impact and it makes the manga both confusing and a lot better. Did prefer this over demon slayer though, since I feel like Jujutsu Kaisen was just better plot overall.
Mugen Train was better IMO. Kimetsu executed everything more competently and gave me actual emotion.
@@shironasama0445 the problem is they made 0 before they adapted Hidden Inventory
@@shironasama0445 I think it would be better if you're an anime only for both, but if you read the manga for jjk I found it to be a bit more impactful. Though I understand your perspective :)
@@shironasama0445 I have read the manga for both series and I can say DS is definitely mid tier I didn't feel anything after reading it. The only good thing about DS is the animation.
People are talking about Demonslayer and JJK movies and I'm just here saying Satoshi Kon's Millennium Actress is peak anime movie
Adding it to had to watch hiatus list
There 3 things you cant talk about anymore:
1. Religion
2. Politics
3. Anime
You never could talk about ANY of those things.
There was a whole ass WAR based on that! (Civil War? Hello?)
Listen lemme get this one thing straight. JJK is famous for (atleast for me) what happened after season 1. So there is no problem calling it "ok" b4 the events after season 1 ends, that is understandable. This is coming from a fan of jjk. The story of jjk0 is the most typical shounen thing out there. Jjk 0 is serves as a back story of Yuta who will become important in the later part of the series.
This is what my manga friends keep telling me about JJK. I still wouldn't call it "ok" though, just more of "great" than "incredible." Like I wouldn't put it in the same tier with attack on titan, full metal alchemist brotherhood, or hunter x hunter, but its probably still better than any other battle shonen out there (dbz, naruto, one piece, demon slayer, bleach, my hero academia, fairy tail etc).
@@ayyo1579 see i totally get it what people on both sides of the spectrum wud say about jjk. I personally loved season 1. The biggest plus point is that this show has taken points from literally 80 percent of the shonen shows and managed to make a perfect blend. This thing wud make some people love the show and some people calling it mid coz it has been already presented many times. And there some who hate without any proper criticism.
But the events later in the manga are some of the arcs which i have never see in any shonen manga b4 which makes it unique and brilliant.
This is kinda the issue with shounen battle series. There are many that the early story is worldbuilding where many thing doesn't get going.
I read the manga till the end of Shibuya and yuta had not appeared there yet when does he come in the manga
@@emeraldsplash7137 he comes in the cullin games arc...after shibuya arc
I’ll start this off by saying I enjoyed JJK 0. I think it’s a good gateway into anime because the story has a conclusion and you don’t really need any prior knowledge when watching it in contrast to Mugen Train. I think the animation in JJK was good and soundtrack was killer. I think their was enough nods to anime/manga fans to feel like you got your money worth.
I feel like things being Mid is the evolution of saying things are overrated. It’s an easy cop out that offers no need for back up. People will say shows they would give an 8/10 mid because they don’t want to say it’s good. I get the statement that you never give things a 1 but surely mid is something that you watch and then only remember when someone brings it up in 3 years time and you kinda remember some of the characters.
Garnt hits the nail on the head with Demon Slayer. The story is simple but that’s a compelling factor. Not every show needs to be One piece,Lord of the rings or Star Wars in terms of story telling. I see so many shows bloat the story up or introduce the most random elements just to spice it up. That’s why I like Demon slayer because the story boils down to ‘I just want my sister to be human again’.
If demon slayer tried to make their story complex then people would complain that it's similar to some other shows plot and would find some excuse to say it's bad. There's always one person. Plus I'd you watch too much anime then you'll start recognizing the plot is similar to other stuff so demon slayer was like "F&#@ the plot, give them Badass action and comedy".
Mid is supposed to be like the middle of the shelf. On a shelf of alcohol the higher you go up the more expensive and quality of the alcohol and the lower you go down the cheaper and lower the quality
Why do anime reviews always make me feel like I have low standards 😅
Who cares if you do. Enjoy what you enjoy. Don’t let anyone take the fun out of it. Personally I never rate anime I just say it didn’t click for me because that’s possible. Not even with my closest friends because I would never want to make them feel bad about something they love. Let’s make the anime environment better. I never bash but I do defend online though
I mean, that's actually a good trait. You can enjoy more stuff than other people. So yeah just keep doing you.
You have no idea how many slice of life that I read and I would defend it as a greatest story in the medium that other people wouldn't even care. Is it stupid? yes. Does it make me happy? absolutely.
@@elizabeth7sj222 i am usually like that but the occasional anime i hate which i regret watching i usually hate on it and in the end say that it is a unpopular opinion
😂 yeah many a times , Who cares when you enjoyed 🙃 .
My friends saw the jjk movie first and liked it better than the anime or liked Yuta more
Why does everytime they talk JJK it always has "Mid" Or "Overrated", Do they don't like it?
I didnt read JJK 0 until after i caught up with the manga just after shibuya ended. I kinda regret that. i wish i had read it after the Hidden Inventory Arc. A tip for anime only's you dont need to watch JJK 0 yet even though its important to the story overall. I would say the movie will have the biggest impact after Hidden Inventory arc is adapted in the anime. But if you want to watch it asap, by all means, things just wont come full circle just yet.
The whole rating conversation is why I like to advocate for a three-point rating system, rather than a 10 or even a 5. In a 10 point system, for the vast majority of people, the only numbers that are gonna be used are 1, 2, 5, 7, 9 and 10. So only about 60%. In a 5 point system, you do regularly see people make use of all five numbers, but personally it feels confusing. I, for one, don't feel comfortable giving 5s and 1s, because I can't fathom something being so perfect to warrant a 5, that it can't possibly be better, or a 1, that it can't possibly be worse. Which is why I like the three-point system, where you don't bother with thinking a whole lot on what exact number it is. A three is basically "It was great, I'd recommend it to everyone (that would be interested in the first place), I enjoyed it a lot and wouldn't mind rewatching it." For me, the Peter Jackson LotR trilogy is a 3, because I literally watch those movies every time they're on my TV program. A 2 is like "It was good, it didn't wow me, but I don't regret watching it. I just won't go out of my way to rewatch it or recommend it." It's something you like in the moment, but it didn't leave a lasting impression. For me, something like FIFA 23 is a 2 game. It's not really any different from another FIFA game, and assuming that I like sports games, I wouldn't mind playing it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to buy it. A 1 is "This was a waste of my time; I didn't like it, it wasn't for me and I will absolutely avoid it in the future." The focus here is on the fact that you consider it a waste of your time - maybe it isn't even "bad", it's just bad or mid enough to the point where you got no enjoyment out of it. For me, that would be something like a video about math. I don't doubt that it's likely a good video, I just don't find math interesting and I would prefer to be doing literally anything else, including stuff I avoid doing, because it's more worthwhile. You could, if you want, add a 0 to the rating system, which is basically "I FUCKING HATE THIS PIECE OF SHIT", something so insulting to you that the mere mention of it stokes a burning fury in your very soul. Or something like 1, excluding the "it might be good, just not for me" part, because you're definitively sure that there's nothing good about it. For me, that would be the Rings of Power show, which even on the most basic of levels fails to be good. Ignore the lore it fucks up, ignore the characters it butchers, the writing, pacing and sometimes even the costumes and locations are god awful and don't deserve to be brought into existence in the given context.
People really think great animation= Great story like NO
Who gives a shit? As long as the story isn't actually terrible it doesn't matter
Literally who says that? Its more just great animation = great show. No one ever corresponds animation = story like ever ?
@@slevin6544 im just saying that when people see an anime with good animation, they are blinded by it and just give it minimum of 8/10. Even if there are many mistakes or places to inprove, they would never talk about/think about them and just talk about the animation. My opinion. I would respect your opinion too so i would like to expect the same from you.
@@vansiar9573 wrong, lots of anime with great animation rated below 8 on MAL.
Well I give a shit.
Garnts JJK take was bad lol. Night Parade was basically the event that was the catalyst for everything moving forward.
I don't think he meant it like that. Since we already know about the aftermath of the accident from anime and characters are alive and well it lowered the stakes
(Haven't watched the movie yet, but i hope it has better moments than anime fights, most of the fight felt lacking for me)
They rlly earned they’re name with this take
Learning the difference between mean, median, and mode would go a loooong way in determining these scores. Just saying.
OMG THANK YOU!!!
How do these people not understand that a 5/10 is NOT a waste of time. A 5/10 is most easy to explain rating because it's smack dab in the middle.
You enjoy Jjk0 based on how much you understand s1 or the series in general because as a manga reader who needed answers from that movie as I haven't read the prequel manga, the movie was a masterpiece 10/10.
That's because I understood all the plot points and know how they connect to the main series.
On the other hand, hardly can one who hasn't seen s1 enjoy the movie.
Just look at the difference between the IMDb rating and MyAnimeList
Toxic anime people when they see a picture of Attack on Titan “iM nOt waTcHinG mId”
I'm not watching mid
@@PPD-40 😂😂😂i see what you did there
Just because it is more popular than their fav show
@@somil9393 I don't watch jujutsu either, I just wanted to see what the fanbase is like here lol
The success of the JJK 0 manga is the reason why we have the Jujutsu Kaisen (manga and anime) that we all love now. This is also why JJK 0 and Okkotsu Yuta will always be special to me
i havent watched the jujutsu kaisen film but i thought the anime was kinda ok... i got really bored during certain parts but most of it was just good
Read it if u thought it was good!
The stuff past S1 is really good! Comparing it to S1 would be like comparison aot to mha xD
The appreciation for JJK0 will rise when the anime adapts the manga to a certain point . JJK S1 was great but compared to what will happen going forward it's essentially just a great character setup for a bigger event it will be like the re zero effect.
@Knee Ger Fuck season 2, the animation was garbage too
@Knee Ger what u expect? its psychological show. u watching it for wrong reasons.
@Knee Ger tldr
Demon slayer has really good animation 1x every 5 episodes for 30 seconds to 1 minute
Oh boy... They will be suprised when they animate rest of JJK and how story continues....
(≧▽≦)
My problem with JJK0 was the pacing, which I think is a problem in a lot of movies. A lot of "Quick, get to the next fight!" which leaves a lot of the quieter or more plot oriented moments with not enough time to really give the impact they need to.
I think there was too many time skips so you didn’t get to see something developed well you just have to take it face value. Like there friendships or some powers that he got. It’s feel like a lot small segments put together. I think it hurts the characters because it’s seems like it’s inconsistent but there not it’s just there was a time skip so you didn’t see them change but they did off screen.
I hated that they showed one fight with Yuta and the other students and were like "....aaaand now they're BESTIES!" and you couldn't buy that because like 5 irl minutes passed.
Dude, it's 2022. Can we please stop using "pacing" as an argument against movies/TV shows?
It's impossible to nail down perfect pacing. You can always say "ehh they could've dragged that moment out a little more"
@@zahubshahid7944 I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here.
If you don't believe pacing can be a legitimate issue I encourage you to attempt to watch Toaru Majutsu no Index III.
I could understand someone finding a Jujutsu Kaisen movie just okay. What I don't get is attributing it to Demon Slayer creating higher expectations. People have really been conditioned into loving things just for it's animation.
I love the demon slayer manga more than jjk manga. cause I already seen jjk's plot in some other anime's
*cough* *cough*
bleach and naruto. convince me other wise.
while try finding an actual plot that relates to demon slayer. only one I could think of is durara yet when you watch it. it is still completely different from demon slayer
@@renitsukishe8740 I'm an anime-only to both so I'll take your word on the manga. But honestly, both Jujutsu and Demon Slayer shows excel and fall short in a few of the same areas: high level animation, okay world-building, memorable character design, and a good enough story that's designed to serve the main character's goals and give us fights.
However, JJK comes out on top in a couple key areas: better supporting characters (they are less one-note and more likeable) and a much more varied combat/magic system.
In saying all that, I am a fan of both.
@@renitsukishe8740 if you’re comparing kurama to Sakuna you’re just wrong I’m assuming that’s where you’re getting your comparison I didn’t watch bleach so I’ll leave that out but ima assume your comparing the Curses? I guess, and demon slayer is peak basic shonen the overall story can’t be compared to Jjk at all
@@renitsukishe8740 I like demon slayer but overall plot and story Demon slayer is nothing special
I read both mangas and watched both anime. If you are talking about overall manga plot then JJK does take the cake. However, if we are talking about juts the movies themselves, Mugen train did offer better experiece for me. The story-telling was actually better than jjk0 for me (mostly due to the fact that jjk0 had so little source material), the emotional impact, animation, and music was better as well.
This is funny considering yesterday I watched Garnt's shounen tier list where he put pretty much everything as mid
Edit: it was part of a meme
He’s should stop watch Shonen all tougher I can tell it ain’t for him. He’s like my friend who watches all the mediocre show instead of the hype ones
@@prescotttrilex8103 Just to be clear it was a joke, and every tier had the word mid in it. He actually thinks Shounen [Jump] has the highest standard of quality in anime.
you should probably clarify the joke in your comment or buffoons like the one under your replies rn will baselessly hate on the man lol
@@Ash_Wen-li I know I’m just saying that cause everyone know he’s an isekai guy I’ve been watching his videos for 3 years now
@@prescotttrilex8103 I'm pretty sure he watches isekai like he watches porn 😂
In the video he even references how most isekai are shit because they don't have the standard that shounen has
The main character in Jujutsu kaisen 0 is very important later down the line in the manga.
My boy be kissing big cockroaches infront of his wife
My problem with saying something is "mid" is that it's a very lazy 😕, nondescript way of critiquing art especially as it's unclear whether it's objective or subjective which is detrimental when communicating your point to others.
Furthermore Garnt is objectively wrong when he more or less says the film has no impact on the overall series as proven by the manga as well as several events/character moments in the anime tv series. It's like saying Jojo's part 1 has no impact on later parts. 😉
Is it impactful to anime only watchers? We don't go to current manga arc, I'm asking for all the material that are only been covered in the anime. Cause I haven't watch the movie.
@@rizkyanandita8227 I kind of don't like how you change the context/subject of what we're talking about to force a specific answer as I was talking about the overall series objectively not just the anime as that kind of endorses the idea that ignorance is bliss and comes off as intellectually dishonest but since you ask.
The events/characters of the film are mentioned several times throughout the tv series, Aoi Todo says he wants the main character of the film (Yuta Okkotsu) to turn up to the sister school event at least 3 times, Megumi says that Yuta is the only Tokyo 2nd year he openly respects and that Aoi Todo defeated several 1st grade cursed grade spirits without his cursed technique and 1 special grade curse spirit with it during the events of the film during the 3rd act. Gojo says Yuta has the potential to be as good as him one day. Panda alludes to yuta's characterisation when talking to mechamaru about how he feels about humans. The sister school event occurs in Tokyo instead of Kyoto in the tv series because Yuta wins the previous event singlehandedly.
@@edwardmillard4398 I asked that because are you considering his perspective? He felt it didn't impact the main story. He compared a movie that happen in the middle of a story with a movie that are a prequel to the story.
Does anything I wrote make any sense? No. Cause there are plenty of thing that look different if you zoom out.
@@rizkyanandita8227I'm addressing his perspective as it's largely born out ignorance and not remembering the tv series accurately. What he subjectively felt is not as important as what's objectively true. It does objectively impact the main story regardless of how he subjectively felt. Also why should it matter if its a prequel vs happening in the middle of a story. Also "Does anything I wrote make any sense? No" I think we call that a self own. 😆
@@rizkyanandita8227 As an anime only:
Nothing in it seems relevant to season 1, but I'm 99% sure several plot threads from it are going to come back in season 2.
Maybe catch it on streaming before season 2 comes out.
The problem with the JJK0 movie was when it was released. Watching it directly after Season 1 would confuse anyone because you'd assume that it is just a random side story with no relevance to the plot if you go in with normal shounen expectations. But two important things to know about JJK0 is that it was originally written as a one shot and the significance of the story makes much more sense after the Hidden Inventory Arc. JJK was never meant to be an actual full serialization, but JJK0 was so popular that it got pushed to a full series. There are three take aways that are pretty important. One is the reason why that lady was sobbing in the theater Connor went to that will be very hard to understand without watching/reading Hidden Inventory first. But beside that there are two other plot points that will pay off later, both of which happen after the Shibuya arc.
I think as seasoned anime fans, it's important to not let jaded views for how some series perform be the base expectation for how other series must be. I think that's a problem Trash Taste has at the moment. Gigguk and to be fair other people went in with the expectation that JJK0 is just some throwaway story like a lot of anime movies, but JJK does not work like that. It's easy to assume that it's like Naruto/Blue Exorist/Boruto, etc. But Gege's main inspirations are Bleach and Hunter x Hunter and both of those things show very well in his writing. Even the first arcs which are kind of slow when it comes to setting up the plot/elements have a good amount of significance in later arcs.
People who see JJK as a Bleach or Naruto clone will never see what makes it good. Their preconceived notions will always cloud their decision. Completed DS and updated on JJK manga right now and for me there is no competition between the two. JJK is so much better that compairing them is unfair.
The problem with DS is that it's too successful. Nobody understands why and it generates some resentment among the anime community.
They say it's overrated, but how can it be overrated when everyone agrees the story is just OK? Maybe 1 in 50 say it's a "masterpiece", the remaining 49 just think it's just a good show.
A few days ago I started and finished the manga, just to find out if it was really mediocre as many said... and the truth is that it's not even that bad. Of course it's not even close to a masterpiece, but it's not the worst manga ever either.
Just because it's probably more popular than your favorite anime doesn't mean it's better or overrated.
Successful =/= Overrated
Successful =/= Better show
Honestly I'm happy for the success Demon Slayer has had, brings far more attention to Ufotable since most newer anime fans wouldn't dive into something like Fate.
I have seen countless people only just now seeing Ufotables work which is fantastic to see, the animators clearly love what they are doing.
In terms of Demon slayer itself, I feel like it does its job well, it's not anything mindblowing in terms of story but at the same time it doesn't need to be. It has likeable charcaters, interesting villians and great hype moments. I dont think it needs to do more than that.
Sometimes anime/manga try to please everyone and end up with zero people being happy. I feel like Demon Slayer appealed to who it needs too, and even to the people that don't like "simple" story I feel like they can still appreciate the anime because of how well its animated.
Overall, Demon slayer gets far too much hate for what it is, not everyone needs to watch something with insane depth to really enjoy anime.
we all know why demon slayer is popular. Its because the animation is batshit fucking insane. Just look at the fights in the entertainment arc. These hype fights are the reason why demon slayer is popular
i really liked it ngl i think a lot of my enjoyment comes from the fact that i read the manga and have info casuals don't know yet
This is it. From what I observing the manga readers definitely enjoyed the movie more than anime only. Maybe cuz you are already attached to the character's due to stuff they do later.
@@elpsykongroo1500 yea at least for me i do think 0 is the weakest arc but that's not a bad thing i would honestly say season 2 will be very strong in terms of story jjk is a story that gets better as it goes along
Yeah I didn’t care about one single character in demon Slayer! 🥺
Not even Rengoku?
If you go at a theatre and the people in there are crying from Mugen Train and JJK0 then thats how you know theyre the most normie of normies
I feel like you have to get an anime or manga to truly like it. I liked jjk the anime a lot it was one of the best things I’ve seen in a while and when I was reading the manga going over the same parts of the anime I then understood it and become obsessed with the series
funnily enough, I watched the movie first before watching the anime. In fact, after watching the movie, I was interested to watch the anime
Based on what I’ve seen I thought everyone thought everything was “mid” so for me “mid” is just a word to describe that you watched a thing and that’s about it. I don’t really get to invested on wether or not someone likes something as much as me, I mean, there are stories that I even think are just alright but people hype up as gods gift to us. So I’ve seen both sides. But hey as long as y’all like what you like I’m happy.
The production budget and animations in Animes nowadays are way better than before imo. I find myself seeing a beautiful high quality drawing and animation in Animes nowadays at the point where I said "now it's just the story that differentiate between good and bad when other factors are well done"
It’s almost like writing a good story is not the top priority anymore
@@MAHRULESV2 that's because it's not.
These dudes are Trippin they won’t be saying that by season 2 they’ll be glad they watched the movie 😂😂😂
They’re just getting too old for shounen. That’s why grant enjoyed mushoku tensei so much
@@hisoka6272 but somehow he loves demon slayer? i feel such dissonance in his takes
@@linojvni2038 I don't think he necessarily loves demon slayer. It's just that in terms of animation, Ufotable is literally indisputably the best, except maybe Wit sometimes. That's why the video he made was titled Demon Slayer is literally a work of art. He fully admits that it has an average story, he just likes the bright moving colors monkey brain neuron activation.
@@hisoka6272 he called it an 8.5-9, but maybe we just rate things differently. What i don't understand is that his take on videogames is that the gameplay can be amazing, but unless there's some narrative pushing him forward he won't play it, but somehow it's the opposite for anime and he can enjoy it just for the production side.
@@linojvni2038 Games and media are kind of different though. It could be the case that he just doesn't really enjoy playing games other than gacha because he's a gambling addict.
JJK Is an 8.5 , it’s one of the only shows I’ve seen where the do woman characters justice . They can all stand on their own and have unique and interesting characters. It’s pretty rare to see it done well.
Try FMA they're one of the other few that females are just straight badass
Read the manga lol all of them are dead or damaged beyond repair
Try gintama
I’ve seen or read all the suggestions
@@vishwaeshu9566
yeah I remember seeing people hype up the female characters but hilariously enough they either don't do much or just get the shit kicked out of them. Hell Black Clover as much as people shit on it still has probably the best female cast in current shounen
Jjk fans get so pressed when you say the show is mid. Only gay niggaz think it’s top tier.
It was ok I thought it would be better since a bunch of people said it was amazing
Says the db fan
Connor did explain Operation Mincemeat pretty well, but there were a couple interesting things I remember from doing a research paper on it and the Invasion of Sicily.
1) The guy they used was a Welsh suicide victim
2) The places Germany thought the Allies would be attacking were Corsica and Sardinia instead of Sicily
Overall, Mincemeat was key to capturing Sicily, then Italy, and eventually ending the European theater portion of WW2.
You'll always see normies crying over things they barely understand. It's how bandwagoners create the illusion of being superfans when really they just wanna feel included like "Hey look! I like anime too!" Lol Like if posers exposed themselves to more than just what's mainstream then they wouldn't look like normies who think every mid series is incredible. They've no standards so they wouldn't know either way. Lpl
I feel "mid" is often used just to express ones own opinion about the anime, not really how the anime itself is (and to trigger people). Like for example for some people FMA is mid, but not in the way that the anime isnt well made, just because they dont like it.
Almost no anime is mid nowadays and a lot of people should use other terms. For example i dont like JJK for several reasons. Still i cant deny that it is, objectively, a good show, because it became really popular and has some good aspects.
Also other people hate on stuff like AoT with the simple reason that they got spoiled...I know that shit, been through it myself, but dont let it out on the anime, but the community or something, else it makes no sense too.
JJK is good but people hype way more than that it's deserve.
They hype it up cause they read the manga so they know what’s to come same shit for chainsaw man, Kaiju 8 and all the new Shonen titles yet to get an anime
Welcome to the most popular shonen of whatever the current time period is.
JJK season 1 is one of the best standard combat shonen ever. Yes, it doesn't defy anything but the execution is great all around
If you're a manga reader you know why people hype it up.
I mean I think every big seasonal show that you don't get into feels over hyped, I felt the same way about Demon Slayer but JJK is the most excited I've been for shonen since I was a kid watching Bleach
anime movies dont do this enough. personally, I want anime movies to be canon and actually has consequences in the series.
Maybe we shouldnt put ratings as numbers in general
Demon Slayer's story is definitely simple, but it's incredibly well done.
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It's probably been said to death but it's the "execution" of the story and characters
garnt " dune was in cinemas for just a month"
me an indian holy fucking shit nothing here stays in the cinema for more than 2 weeks
The only reason Garnt feels like the movie has no impact on the main series is because Yuta hasn't come back yet. If you read the manga, you can see it actually affects the story. Taking the manga into consideration, it's like an 8.5/10 minimum
Your comment kinda reminded me of an old rant Garnt did. Basically he said when rating an anime he doesn't take the manga into consideration because those are two different forms of the media. While the anime takes it's story from the manga, it doesn't mean the manga will justify what happens in the anime (e.g. when Rental Girlfriend fans say the MC will get better in the manga so stop trashing on him, it doesn't make up for the fact in the anime he's a horrible person). So tbh I can see where he's coming from saying the movie has no effect on the story. Until something happens to show what it set up has an effect, it will still maintain the criticisms.
@@mavitsyoboibrent2570 who tf said he gets better in the manga lmfaooooooo
the words cringe, edgy, gay, toxic and mid are the most overused words in the english language
thought terminating clichés used by those who can't properly articulate their thoughts into words
8:57 "Boring" part usually is the one hyping up the "exciting" part. If the train part do not happen, then it will be less emotional when rengoku dies. The train part also give great power scale, rengoku easily hold enmu while tanjiro fight him. Meanwhile akaza toyed with rengoku and tanjiro could do nothing. So its still 8/10 for me.
Demon Slayer movie with the train isn't even that good, y'all just overhyping it way too much.
My rating scaling.
10 - Revolutionary or game changer of how I view media. Can potentially retroactively change the scaling of the rating system.
9 - Best of it's kind in its genre. Rarely given just like 10. Movies I see as perfect can still end up here.
8 - Contender for the top ten of the year it was released
7 - Thoroughly enjoyable, though there are notable flaws
6 - Competently produced, usually has one shining point
5 - Standard in all ways. Toss up on whether I hate it or not
4 - Underachiever. Would be placed in the back of the watch list even if it caught your interest. The zone of wasted potential if the execution was the problem.
3 - Forgettable and replaceable, regardless of originality of the premise.
2 - Insultingly bad. It is outright offensive to watch.
1 - Waste of time and resource it took to produce it. In contrast to rating of 2, it doesn't ellicit any emotional response.
0 - So bad that it has an analytical value to study how bad it is.
The weird thing is that my curve for the rating isn't all too linear. There is a huge gap between 2 and 3 than there are a gap in 9 or 10.
what is an anime u consider to be three and an anime u consider to be 2
@@yacqub 3 is literally every other romance anime where the relationship goes nowhere, or the millions of carbon copy Isekai where it has only one twist to make it unique.
2 I don't really have one for anime because I usually stop watching as soon as I suspect it will be bad. First thing to come to mind would be The Last Jedi for this rating.
What anime/manga do you rank 9 or 10?
@@beastvicious8672 Berserk for 10, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Steel Ball Run for 9.
@@ringkunmori Cool. I've rated those 2 the exact same. SBR is close to 10, but there's a few characters which could've been a bit more explored. Like Sandman and Mountain Tim. Also a few fights i wasn't too invested in. Thought that's the same for all Jojo parts. SBR has some of the Best fights in general along with Vento Aureo. Berserk is without a doubt 10/10!
4XD: "Where they spit on you and shake the chair"
Holy shit 🤣🤣🤣
When you read/watch stories like One Piece, Berserk, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Kingdom, Hunter x Hunter and Vagabond, pretty much everything else becomes mid. JJK and Demon slayer are cookie-cutter AF but are executed well. Both are still mid tho.
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Honestly JJK for me is actually pretty damn good for something not close to finished yet. While I don't think it's as good as something like TTGL or HxH, I do think certain aspects I actually prefer.
JJK personally has some of my favorite powers and abilities I have seen in anime in awhile (rivaling HxH for me in that aspect) they all feel pretty unique and as the manga goes on more and more is explained, and the power system has a good level of depth to it (honestly surprised how well thought out it was)
Also feel like it has no pacing issues at all tbh, for me it has yet to feel particularly badly paced at any point for a long period of time.
Only main issue I have with JJK so far is most of the villians feel a little empty, though I think this is because we get so little time with each of them and we never really get their perspective, funnily enough Jogo or Mahito are probably the best written so far lol. (Something HxH did particularly well with the Phantom Troupe and the Chimera Ants) I feel like if JJK could fix this issue it could really elevate the show for me.
I watched Jjk0 after binging Evangelion Rebuild Movies so yeah I thought it's quite bland. Expected more from the characters, but perhaps that's just a weakness of the shounen genre.
2:00 Weeeeeeeell..... the Big Bad of the entire series dies in the movie.... and the death actually sticks.
Mid is just something people use when they want to call something bad but are too lazy to defend saying so.
The way I see it.. Mid = 5/10
It's boring.. Nothing bad, and nothing good
Deathnote Story.. GREAT
Demon Slayer's story.. MID
Redo of Healer.. BAD
Out of all those stories, I can say Demon Slayer has a better story than redo of healer.. But Redo's is definitely gonna stick in my mind far into the future compared to DS where when I remember demon slayer, it'd be like "damn, that show with the amazing visuals and OST" while when I remember Redo, it'd be like "THAT STORY WAS HORRENDOUS LMAO"
Demon Slayer just makes me laugh out laugh off that crappy writing. Maybe new anime watchers now has got a shallow taste in entertainment including anime.
It's mostly cuz people don't watch Demon Slayer for the writing and the story, but for the fight scenes and the animation.
Man i hope that new one piece film red is canon or some part of i mean even if it's not still gonna watch it 🤣 as for that new dbs hero's movie it's a maybe