Demon Slayer is Extraordinarily Incompetent
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Demon Slayer is a manga created by Koyoharu Gotouge which ran in the Weekly Shonen Jump. The anime has attained massive popularity thanks to the incredible fight animation done by Ufotable. It has become so popular that the Mugen Train movie became the highest grossing anime film ever made. But what's so great about it? Because from my perspective, Demon Slayer doesn't do anything right. Tanjiro is a boring protagonist, the breathing power system makes no sense, the character writing is horrible, the world building is non-existent, and generally speaking the series just lacks focus. It doesn't know what it wants to be, what it wants to do, or what it wants to say. Today I'd like to talk about everything that Demon Slayer does wrong... which is everything.
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0:00 Intro
2:25 What is Demon Slayer?
8:40 The Problem with Breathing
13:58 Tanjiro is a Boring Character
28:50 Patreon Shill
29:24 I hate Zenitsu
33:01 Rengoku Doesn't Work
41:24 The Many Problems with Genya
47:07 So Many Backstories
52:50 Even the Action sucks (in the Manga)
55:57 I still hate Zenitsu
1:01:12 Demon Slayer's Fatal Flaw
#demonslayer #tanjiro #anime #manga #shonen #koyoharugotouge - Zábava
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Also koyoharu Gotoge is nonbinary/ female at birth
@@Monkeydfitzy 2:15
@@CaptainMack im pretty sure that gigguk video was praising the animation
@@westhun4580 Yeah, Gigguk often comments on how overhyped DemonSlayer is
@@Monkeydfitzy their gender isn't confirmed due to privacy so no one knows
The REAL critique is how demons are actually vampires but nobody’s ready to talk about that 😤
Its Japan they got weird ass demons bro some are like vampires while some lick toilets I'm glad we got the former
basically bootleg castlevania
Basicly bootleg jojo part 1 lmao
@@SSFplayer2 There's a reason they pitted Jonathan and Tanjiro against each other in Death Battle.
@@100organicfreshmemes5 heard about it ye, but never watched it
When I was reading Demon Slayer, the one thing that I kept feeling is, that Demon Slayer is trying to speed run to end the series as fast as possible. Every single down time the cast get to rest or get to know each other is skipped with "X months passed, we all improve. Now we need to move to the next arc quick quick quick!"
Its unfortunately due to the author's personal issues, they had to move out for reasons I've forgotten so they had to end it as fast as possible
the fact that Tanjiro just happens to conveniently bump into both Hashiras AND upper moons .... come on breh
It’s not even like the characters are really awful (at least half of them at least) it’s just that they’re insanely half baked.
Yeah, jjk is the same way
would you rather it be constant fillers, that's one thing I can appreciate about DS is it doesn't seem to have any
I'm surprised he didn't mention when Inosuke got stabbed in the heart with a poison dagger but through the power of plot armor he lived cause he "grew up in the woods and is immune to poison AND he can re-arrange his organs"
It would have been so easy to say that Gyutaro *missed* his heart, even if just by a bit.
wasn't it specifically mushrooms
Not to mention he “can sense evil” or something. He CLEARLY didn’t sense it when the conductor from Mugen Train was right behind him about to kill him.
rearranged organs was fucking wild. I let that slide bc the fight sequences were decent. I liked the rage moment of Tanjiro, reminded me of Guts. This past season was so fucking boring though. I probably won’t be watching the next season.
To be fair they literally have an entire scene of inosuke using this technique not 10 episodes before that scene
Tnajiro's family dies:
Copyright protection squad: 🕺🕺🕺
I luv the dancing squad
@@FoxGameCZno way you replied to your own comment
@@michaelwodz9807 no way you replied to a comment that comment their own comment
@@kaisteminono way you replied to a comment of that comment that comment their own comment
I got so many corny replies It’s not even funny anymore
Tanjiro just breaking swords constantly forever would be funny. He could make lots of blacksmith friends that way.
That would actually be very engaging.
Throughout the story, he does get better at not breaking them, but it still happens from time to time, until he gets fed up with it and just decides to have a shit ton of swords that he disperses throughout the battle field before each fight.
I thought him breaking swords would be an important but awesome plot point, especially against the Twelve Kizuki. It would've been really cool to see how he would've adapted to a sword breaking in the beginning of the fight against an Upper Rank. Maybe like reusing the broken pieces in creative ways.
Breath of the wild style
@@Chronically_ChiIII made a character like that.
@@joejoejoej9763
Ooh, do tell
One of my main issues when reading the manga was I always felt Nezuko was treated more like a plot object than a character. Like she could be changed to a desirable vase with few major changes
I wish her combat skills were developed even further, it would cool if she reached the same level of strength as the main trio and participated in the muzan fight.
@@zandensterner3918 uh why should nezuko join the muzan fight? You dont play capture the flag by placing the flag in the middle of the warzone.
@@winterburn2353 You're completely right, I just want to see more nezuko action
@@zandensterner3918 im completely with you on that.
Nezuko is (so far in the anime) Tanjiro's guard dog.
Literally
EDIT: Now that Season 3 is over...I can say that...Nezuko had so much "character development" in 3 season.
From Human to Demon to Backpack to Guard Dog to Talking Parrot...the "character development" in Shonen truly evolved...this Mangaka has to be stopped.
This competent writing shouldn't be allowed...he is tooo powerful for no reason...just like the mc of DS/KnY.
Imagine if Genya, the only character that can turn himself into a demon, hunting after the footsteps of his brother, a Hashira, who has problems controlling himself while being a demon, and also has severe character flaws (being an asshole, refuses to communicate or work as a team, etc) was the actual main character.
HE HAS A FUCKING SHOTGUN
Idk if im just struggling to understand but his stomach is advanced in a way where if he digests demon meat it temporarily changes his appearance to a more demon thing
mhh since when is sanemi a demon?
@@miceatah9359 You must be mistaken Genya has an ability makes him turn into a demon after eating their flesh.
I think it's something like that, though yeah I wish Genya was fleshed out more instead of being killed off. 😓
@@genesismunoz6008 No bro, genya cant turn into a demon, he might be a human but if he eat demon flesh, he can get demon abilities, After all we first saw genya gaining powers in the swordsmith village arc, At the last episode, he was normal
That has got to be my favorite part about Genya.
*HE HAS A GUN*
You got me thinking about how suffering makes the demons so cruel, and I think a cool way that could factor into Nezuko's character is that she lived a life with supportive and loving people. Any suffering she had was shared with her family, who looked after each other and taught one another to care for the world and the people around them. That could explain why she doesn't want to kill her brother and learns to be gentle. Generally, Muzan and the demons who chose to make new demons target those who have been beaten down because they could be molded into killing machines with no care for human life. When someone does care for others, they will resist this urge, at least to a certain extent. This would allow the themes that you brought up to genuinely affect the world-building and story direction, and give Nezuko more of a purpose. I have always believed that she is the most criminally underused character.
thats actually genius
Thank you
@@suka312 Glad I could be of service.
And that's why we were shown the backstory of the demon brother and sister. They're there to show a possible outcome for Tanjiro and Nezuko. The anime has flaws for sure, but a lot of arguments were just nitpick.
Ero manga sensei is your favorite. So much support.
Imagine how amazing it’d be if Nezuko constantly fought the demon inside her with her own love and maternal strength instead of being hypnotized to make her a mindless baby half the time. Then, she and her brother could actually talk to each other, mourn their family or squabble like actual siblings.
Yeah but that would be sad. And we need to be wholesome and funny
But how? If that could be why Akaza can't? Akaza never wanted to be a demon he got forced by Muzan
imagine understanding the point of the plot
She is fighting the demon insider her. Her urge to eat humans. That's it. Ig the author could've done some metephorical good vs bad internal conflict via hallucination vision dream thing, but there wouldn't be much to cover as it is rn and would be weirdly explicit and hand holdy as if we the audience would be too stupid to get that Nezuko is fighting her hunger.
That would require women to be respected in this show, which won't happen anytime soon.
I just realized that if Genya and Nezuko worked together they would be unbeatable, because he could just eat a small part of Nezuko, fight with them, rinse and repeat and be unbeatable.
But actually I don’t have a retort for this comment😂
The perpetual motion machine
Zenitsu really wants to eat Nezuko as well
sadly this isnt fire punch
hm this remind me of touka and kaneki from first season of tokyo ghoul hahaha. nice idea tho
I dropped this show when they were like "By the way, while you were gone I took the liberty of hypnotizing your sister so that she's forced to put herself in extreme danger to protect others"
"Cool, what's for dinner?"
@@bendtu Exactly, I'm really hoping whatever the author's next work is, respects it's female cast better. Instead of giving them less agency and development and also not objectifying them.
I was pretty saddened by that
Cuz imagine if tanjiro managed to convinced nezuko not to attack humans who aren’t trying to hurt him and she agrees
Then some dude lightly bumps shoulders with tanjiro during his travels and is just being an ass about it, and now he’s gotta stop her from killing the idiot
Or maybe he gets actually hurt by a person and he sees how his sister basically… kinda almost kills them, but doesn’t because he calls out for her to stop
Idk. Lots of missed potential by having it where she really only protects tanjiro cuz he’s her brother.
Not to mention the entire dilemma of her actually needing to deal with the fact she’s a demon, and is actively fighting against her instincts. Kinda like beastars in a sense, and I fuckin love that shit ( sept for the ending. Not to great imo )
@@genesismunoz6008 How does koyoharu objectify the female characters?, Mitsuri, Shinbou, Kanae, and tamayo are very pertinent and they do expand on their characters, 2 of them being some of the most powerful in the verse, one being one of the most important in the series in terms of the final arc (Tamayo), and I haven't seen a single episode or chapter of the manga that objectifies them, people will say that about Mitsuri due to her personality, but that is one character in a cast of many, and even then, Mitsuri is overall more powerful than Shinobu and some of the other hashira, she's physically as strong as rengoku. I understand disliking certain parts of the show, but the author "Objectfying women" simply isn't true.
Oh, yeah! I remember that part. Instead of having Nezuko develop on her own, they have her being mind controlled into protecting others because she couldn't learn to do it herself. Horraaaaay!!!
@@mekingtiger9095 Yeah, It's almost like she turned into a man-eating monster or something, this really is just not a good point
Inosuke and tanjiro had more chemistry than their actual end love interests.
Tbh, I see them as big brother and little brother.
@@t1mburt0nsdandruffBetter than the last second cupid bullshit they pulled between Aoi and Inosuke because what the fuck was that-
At least Tanjiro had “some” chemistry with Kanao, though even then I still don’t like it.
Like the ships in Beastars
@@k4t161 Agree with you, You want to know what's the worst part I hate about Tanjiro and Kanao being together.
Kanao doesn't even push Tanjiro to become a better person like he did to her and Kanao's character development was too dependent on Tanjiro too.
Also, if yall want to see better female characters, recommend reading a manga/anime series called Undead Unluck,
It's female lead and cast are fucking amazing. Just ignore the rough beginning it has, the story gets better later on.
Honestly, the main trio had more chemistry between them than any of their love interests.
Its funny to think about how Tanjiro was so incompetent that literal dead people had to come help him.
Lmao I never thought of that
God I love demon slayer and god I agree with almost everything in this video 🤣
But he wasn't incompetent though. It was revealed Urokodaki purposely gave him the biggest boulder so that he would fail and he wouldn't have to watch any more of his students die. The one who is incompetent, yet it has no drawbacks on him, is Zenitsu. Zenitsu literally has more plot armor than Tanjiro.
“Dw I gotchu bro” -dead child
@@justsoloboy not to mention it has no plot relevance later on lol
Nezuko is in my opinion the biggest waste of a character in Demon slyer and perhaps in any anime I've seen. Nezuko had the potential to be a character who wrestles with her humanity constantly having the urge to eat humans but also wanting to help them and from that we'd see her inner monologue of this the whole time. Instead we got Nezuko being nothing more than a dog. She's cute when she needs to be, she'll can attack who ever she needs to, and can't speak. She could've been an amazing deuteragonist but instead can't even be called a character as she just isn't one. I know that at the end of the latest season she learned to speak but I doubt anything will be done with that.
I agree with that. She's literally can be the main weapon to defeat Muzan, but she was wasted. I can think of a few ways they can use Nezuko:
Like having her train fighting so she can be as strong as an upper rank instead of the "Sleeping to regain strength." bs
or she can train with a sword and become a demon slayer, as a demon, plus her demon blood art. Like there was so many ways she could of been used.
Plot device and nothing more
Damn but her rule 34 are soo good....
@@yoshikagekira6831 downbad💀
@@yoshikagekira6831 Bro she's 14
The problem with demon slayer is that when things happen we are expected to accept it and not ask questions
Example pls
@@juub5171 for example, genyas demon abilities. We are just told he can do that and not how/why.
@@ryanhickson6399actually if you read the manga they explain that his digestive system is different which allows him become a Demon for a Short amount of time
@@juub5171an example is that Sabito and his friend (I forgot her name MB) can touch Tanjiro despite them both being Ghosts
@@Dan6-789zw why is it different tho, it's not enough to just say it different just because. Maybe they could say he from a clan that ate demon or something but he's just a dude that happens to be able to safely eat demons
To be honest, the only thing I ever seem to praise about Demon Slayer is the animation, and I just realized that was the case. I agree with everything you've said, I watch Demon slayer mostly because I need a distraction and just, awooga pretty animation. I hope Ufotable moves on after Demon slayer to something with better writing perhaps? Their animation is incredible for real.
Ufotable + good writing? A myth of legends never seen before.
Would be lit AF
@@Teh8Swords Just watch Fate...?
@@Teh8Swords Fate/Zero and Kara no Kyoukai ae extremely well written series that Ufotable has worked on. Followed by FSN UBW and Heavne's Feel. They are also working on Witch on the Holy Night, basically the origin of Fate and all of the Nasuverse, it's really good too.
this is exactly how i feel about this story. its just a run of the mill shonnen with a beautyfull anime behind it. i often feel that the animation was so pretty that people think is good cause it looks good. its not awful but is not one of the greatest stories out of japan imo
@@lllKXlllFate Zero you mean. Everything else is trash
Talking about Shinobu and character writing/conflicts, I think it'd have been a lot better if Shinobu chose Insect Breathing and poisoning not because she's too weak to cut a demon's head off, but because she's grown to hate demons so much throughout her life that she actively refuses to cut their heads off, just so she can see them suffer for as long as possible.
right let's take away an interesting aspect of the character so we can accentuate another aspect that doesn't need to be
@@kroom8242 As it's been said in the video, the story is sorely lacking in inner conflicts, even though it should be laden with them, given Tanjiro's and Nezuko's situation.
But all the Hashira just automatically accept Nezuko after her one display of self-control.
@@kroom8242 Also, Shinobu being weak is only really interesting in a passing mention, while her being hateful towards demons to such an extent would not only generate long-term conflicts but also give her a flaw that she could work towards, since it'd also hinder her efficiency as a demon slayer.
(Manga spoiler alert)
@@markdaniel9657 I feel like the point of Shinobu is that she doesn't give up on that flaw, though--since she literally dies fighting her sister's murderer, going to the point of making herself literal poison to achieve revenge. And while I know different people have different preferences, I find it interesting how she sticks to her negative emotions to an end.
@@courtney5312 I mean, being physically weak is not exactly a character flaw you can get over with character development, lol
a way to make Zenitsu's "falling asleep" thing work is that a method he uses to overcome his fear is to close his eyes. And this time, it actually has drawbacks: HIS EYES ARE CLOSED. it could also make his fighting style stand out more from other breathing, as he takes a "blind swordsman" style compared to others
And him having his eyes closed could be used to show how risky it his for him to use his breathing technices by accidently attacking a friend or other hashira but there's never that big of a treath. Take the berserker armor for example, that's a very good way to show a powerful power but it can affect the user and the ones near him.
Something like that is never showned or is never well used in demon slayer
No lie, I really thought when I first watched the anime, that it reminded me of that one SpongeBob episode where he couldn’t drive unless he was blindfolded. 😂 It’s not a bad concept but I feel like it was executed poorly.
His eyes being closed aren't much of a drawback with his crazy sharp sense of hearing though. He hears emotions like how Tanjiro smells feelings
@@brandonadrien3476 he's still suppost to be sleeping tho
I like this as the demons we see him kill first we’re all noisy musical demons making them easy for a blind man to see and kill, and the spiders could actually give him a challenge (the humanoid ones at least) and results in a better fight then he falls unconscious and kills everything, and then they could reveal how he’s basically blind while fight uppermoon’s six as she realizes she can use that against him, and when inosuke eventually comes back to help to fight it feels like she is getting strained out in her fight to her eventual lost
Sanemi Shinazugawa should have been the protagonist honestly. He has a nearly identical backstory as Tanjiro but has flaws that hold him back.
Tanjiro could have worked if his flaws weren't played for laughs instead of something that affects the story.
• Tanjiro is sometimes overly aggressive when offering help after someone says no, but it's seen as a joke.
• Tanjiro cannot lie to save his life, but it's played off as a joke.
• Tanjiro is overly protective of his sister (understandably) but it doesn't hold him back.
• Tanjiro is reckless with his sword, but it's the blacksmith’s fault.
• Tanjiro acts like a second parent to the other boys, but once again it's for some goofy scene.
I agree, I liked Sanemi much better. His flaws made him more interesting. I wanted to watch him change and develop (for better or for worse) Meanwhile although Tanjiro is sweet, since he barely had any flaws to overcome, an expectation of character development was non-existent.
In conclusion the anime is goofy as fuck
Dawg I would be bored asf if Sanemi was the protag. I'm so tired of brooding. Go read a manhwa or something
Exact! The fact that Tanjiro is like your typical therapist friend could be another flaw, because being a therapist friend is tiring for yourself but also very exhausting for others because you never trust them to talk about yourself, leading to bigger problems like... exploding, not literally, because you keep quiet of what you feel all the time.
fr and also genya cause he has some actual cool abilities (turning himself into a demon, shotgun)
You have massive balls for ridiculing a series this popular
It's not even good, though. He speaks facts.
"Mediocre story carried by animation" is literally the most popular take about Demon Slayer, its not brave at all
@@khanbw you'd be surprised about how moronic people can act over stuff like this. And with how popular the show is, it's inevitable that someone's going to be offended or something like that.
Although I agree with the overall point that demon slayer is WAY too overhyped, this guy is a complete moron, I mean look at his point during 22:30 , his point is that tanjiro took less dmg whilst 4v1ing a weaker character compared to someone else having a 1v1 so he clearly must be stronger, like wth
That’s nothing special, people often ridicule anything popular
Although it feels rare to see anyone construct actual criticism and problems rather than bitching and calling it “mid” for 10 minutes
nezuko could literally be tanjiro’s pet dog sidekick and nothing would change about her besides the fact that she wouldn’t end up married to one of the most annoying side characters.
Read the manga.
@@gawagames7877 I have, he is speaking facts.
Ohh no... did they get her with Zenitsu? Please tell me it is not true!
@@nauth123 pretty sure they did. This manga / anime treats woman like trophies 90% of the time. The Zenitsu... Situation is a lot worse, for reasons I prefer to not even think about.
@@crazagres1839 Damm, that is terrible news! I dont even like Demon Slayer, but this was a low point to learn about
It's been over 30 years, and JoJo still has the coolest breathing ability
Hamon will never be topped
@@a6brx_editz23 Just like how it'll never return
@@geist6032 Now that hurt.
@@thatrandomcrit5823at least we have spinning technique.
@@geist6032damn that hurt
Omg I thought I was legit going crazy and missing smth HUGE for literally not caring about Rengoku's death, like...he was such a non-character to me, barely knew the guy. I never understood why people would legit say his death wrecked them???
Even when the Hashira died in the final battle, I felt nothing. It was spoiled for me, yes, but I really didn’t feel any attachment towards them. They’re boring, one note characters that the fandom is manipulated into thinking they’re well written when they’re not.
same goes for final battle u cant fell anything they have sad backstory shoved to our faces and expect us to be sad for characters we barely know
Some people just found him a nice person, a bit weird and corageous. And for some of people that's enough, you already know who he is. You have seen a thousand character like him before. If you like those kind of people, if it is the kind of person you would like to have at your side, then it's okay to cry for him. In my case, with just a few lines of dialogue I know he was the type of person I would enjoy being with. I felt sad when he died because he was nice. Of course, I'm the kind of person that can mourn the tragedies of people I don't know or I barley know anything about. It's simple empathy. That's something that sometimes strike me weird, when one says that you gotta make the audience care a out the character. Is not a normal thing to care about other people? It's a human being, the bare minimum is to care, even if its just a bit. There's no need cry, but feel bad about it would be a decent reaction. Don't people feel their own mortality when a character dies? Don't they feel how their families would feel?
@@elguardallavesdejaalI think most people enjoy feeling complex and meaningful human emotions with empathy. You can find that from a stranger irl, but only in good writing with fictional stories. As said in the video, the emotions in Demon Slayers feel flat and fake. Just an opinion, but it is almost unhealthy and blind to feel meaningless emotions triggered by bad writing.
@@dullingbearfish1913weird strawman argument, they aren’t feeling feeling emotion due to bad writing. They clearly said that they can feel the emotions due to empathy. If something tragic happens on the news, do you not feel sad for those people despite not knowing anything about them? I surely do sometimes; it’s not that hard to imagine what they were like, and the life they had.
Of course it’s not black and white, bad writing can definitely break your immersion into the character, but a lack of description for the character does not necessarily mean that they are a poor character or you cannot feel anything for them. For example, Boromir in the fellowship of the ring is quickly killed off, but I can still feel sad because of his valour and imagining what could have happened if he didn’t die so soon.
Demon Slayer straight up is a mediocre shonen manga that got adapted by arguably the best animation studio in Japan lol. Ufotable took a mid series into a fucking art piece lol
Ha ha😂.
Bro, Demon Slayer is not the only series that has gotten animated by Ufortable?
@@IrrelevantBastardobviously not. But it's still a mid story elevated by its animation
@@coffeeandkeyboards8361 😐
It's better than midori and watamote and people barely talk about watamote
It's the most gorgeous looking anime I've ever seen
I literally never got the "no one knows about demons" thing. Why the hell don't they tell people about demons? It would be so much easier for the demon slayer corps to operate if people knew who they were and what they were doing.
I was also thinking. If demons have been a thing for over 500 years, how comes the government does nothing? They could literally partner with Kagaya and provide more personel and resources to deal with demons
It makes a lot of sense, it would make sense that they try to keep it a secret, also its not like theyre insanly secretive, theyve destroyed entire towns with people, they would just rather be as secretive as possible without risking human life, some of the tatical advantages include
Being able to destroy a shit ton of stuff and not have people despise you
Not have the government up your ass
Not having to much attention on you giving u the element of suprise,
Alltough there are some benefits, the military training their own ds and having less volunteers
Not defending DS but the general public might freak out if they knew.
@@dennisduncan7561 OK. That makes sense in a way
@@dennisduncan7561yeah for a lil bit it was that era of Japan they were scared of alot of shit that would be debatable scarier to think about
The worst part about Demon slayer is not its enormous tone of flaws but how easily they could have been turned into strength with a simple consideration for the question "whats the point of this ?" every time the author has an idea.
the author is a gay they/them he cnt even figure out the point of his gender
I do agree through out the serie you notice lots of potential and Amazing Ideas can be established but only to be removed or not talked about.. after noticing the story is being really stiff and offer nothing..it became not interesting to continue watching.. I would say I don't mind decent stories occasionally you can watch a movie or read a book and relatively say if was okay and decent but still mange to continue none of the less
Though demon slayer kill every potential it needs and the storyline itself Is meaningless and not explained.. characters are just funny with little to offer and the questions you may have through the series doesn't get explained
Also I got bothered by how tanjro is capable to hold a battle with very strong demons with actually accurate and Smart plan and yet tanjro manage to defeat them not because he is smarter he just gets a sudden power moment or suddenly he adopt something to win or he becomes immune.. It becomes boring? With the lower moon in the train arc was a bit useless battle for visualization not that the lower moon death would main anything And he didn't even impact the train or kill anyone..ot was useless that muzan gave him his blood to be extra useless.. ans the fight wasn't meaningful or much struggle was there ..
That's what I tend to dislike that demon slayer can offer a lot but the author refuses to even think about it ..he just does it with little thinking in it
@@Fiiilll3zoomer mentality, what else to say lol?
@@Tea12456 its a shonen. Naruto does it, goku does it, a lot of animes do it. The power boosts do also make a lot of sense if u understand it.
@@cozmicdrama-music7062nah. Naruto and Dragon ball actually delivered a good story telling and had a pretty great message. Both have flaws in their world building but both mangaka manage to deliver what they want to convey to their audience. Demon slayer flaw is that it is basically a cop out of every shounen series. It borrows an element from everything but fails to convert any of that in a meaningful way.
25:36 What annoys me about this is that the demons said that they’ve disposed of multiple hashira by the point Tanjiro made it to them. So, why didn’t they think “Wow… So many hashira seem to keep disappearing in this district. We should probably investigate this by sending at least three hashira.”
Because in-verse Hashira are split between 9 different regions of Japan, so finding a moment where they can all meet and go to this one area would be hard. The Hashira meeting in season 1 is also something that rarely happen.
Well i dont think thats the part that really puts me off about it
Just like this guy said i have been thinking WHERE ARE THE APPRENTICE AND THE OTHER HIGHER RANKING DEMON SLAYERS?
The hashira was able to fight upper 6 with 3 people ( albeit 3 "special" people) but if you could spare these 3 you could probably spare 5-6 of the higher ranking ones to help hashiras and let the lower ones hold the territory for a while
My guy, where's the Nezuko section? Because when I started DS I was so excited to see a girl in a mainstream/popular shounen series go into sicko mode and kill some enemies. But I stopped watching at the end of the train arc because that singular arc made it glaringly obvious Nezuko was never going to kick ass and that she had no character other than being a distraction for the enemies at best and being a cute *silent* mascot for the boys at worst. Her "writing" is atrocious and misogynistic to boot.
And she doesn't improve after that and at the end of the series
Not to mention the wasted potential she had since she’s a demon. She could’ve been amazing if she could think for herself, and would go on missions with the other characters after she trains to master her demon abilities. She should’ve been more involved with the fights, but that would mean Tanjiro can’t have plot armor.
You're wrong she's not just cute mascot anymore now she has boobs so they have both a cute and sexy mascot for the boys 😅
@@roselily9036fr why does everyone forget the specialization of her when she’s like a kid, like I get if you wanna have fan service but why the one who is actively being muzzled like a animal? It kinda shows the author is abit of a creep.
I get that, despite the fact that she is the basis of the plot (kill Muzak so we can return her to being human) she is utterly absent from any significance, she could still be in a coma in Urokudaki’s hut and no big difference would be made (speaking as someone who has only finished up to the end of the Entertainment District Arc).
As of that point at least she barely plays a role in anything, especially fights:
The first fight - against the demon that grows arms - distracts it vaguely
Swamp Demon - acts as a distraction so Tanjiro doesn’t have to worry about people getting hurt.
Volleyball demon - kicks a ball back and forth while Tanjiro gets the fun fight.
Ex-lower 6 - Stays in a box the whole time
Rui/ lower 5 - blocks a hit once and gets strung up until she sets Tanjiro’s sword on fire.
Lower 1 - Distracts the tentacles to keep bystanders safe.
Upper 6 - Goes berserk for half an episode than takes a Power Nap for the rest of the fight till she spontaneously gains healing powers.
I haven’t watched any more at all, tell me it gets better because playing support (at best) for 2 seasons and a movie is utterly abysmal for a main character
Crazy how the ufotable knew that demon slayer is poorly written so they knew they had to start cooking up a storm with the animation.
fr..if it was not for ufotable..this midslayer would've been in dust
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Animation really does Wonder huh
The most souless shit I've ever seen
Even Marvel movies aren't that poor
@@mohamedkhider6998 you’re right, it’s shittier than MCU, it’s outright Michael Bay tier (I fucking hate his movies)
Yeah, but I don't think we should blame Ufotable for choosing to animating demon slayer, they did work hard on working on the anime adaption, and I respect them for that. I only blame for the author Koyoharu Gotogue for their incompetent writing and they do love to do their characters so dirty and especially give the female characters even more worse treatment by not giving them (excluding Tamayo and Shinobu, they are the only ones that are well written 👍) the development and independence they deserve!
Kanao: The one that probably pisses me off the most, had so much potential but just to be reduced to be Tanjiro's love interest for literally no fucking reason! Others glaze over her for being such a "well-written" female character but in reality, her character development felt too dependant on Tanjiro and her character lacks agency because of that. I still love her growth but I just wish we could've gotten to see how strong of a demon slayer she was.
Nezuko: I don't have much to say about her but again had so much potential but was just reduced as a plot device and nothing more I love her but kinda wish she was treated as a character not just an object.
Aoi: Also one of my fav characters, but also got worse treatment from the the author too, in one of the fanbooks she's not even mentioned to be co-worker when she clearly worked hard in the Butterfly Mansion and deserve to be the doctor more than Kanao, who just became the doctor out of nowhere. At least she has more serious personality that's what I love about her the most unlike Kanao, who's more childish and immature, don't know why Tanjiro wasn't even aware of that.
As for the rest I don't need to even explain as much I love this series, damn the female characters are absolutely garbage and were done so dirty when it comes to writing I still love them but come on this author is definitely 100% mysgonistic even if they say they "care" about the characters, even though they don't even bother putting in some effort in giving them development! 😭
I wish ufotable hadn't spent years wasting their incredible talents on such a bland and poorly written story as Demon Slayer. Of course the production committee and those in charge want loads of money and Demon Slayer is incredibly popular, but only because of ufotable's animation skills.
Demon Slayer is absolutely an animation carry. It's also hilarious how it outsold the entire American comic industry, lol.
No shit, American comics are just bland superheroes. It’s been a problem since the 50s
@@thomasffrench3639 How are the characters in demon slayer any different? If anything most of the characters have less depth any of the well known Dc or marvel characters, just because it's animation is very good and in another language most people forget how little substance there actually is in the show.
@@Half-light I’m talking holistically. Super Hero comic have been holding back the medium in America
a shitty product with good animation would never be as popular as ds, kny was popular since the manga started, the reason is the dialogues, the designs, the period and the whole ahestetic that japanese people love, fate has a as good animation but is in no world as popular, ds movie became the highest grossing movie in japan, beating ghibli movies, which are almost objectively better, i'm not saying that its good, but the animation alone did nothing
@@yassirbeniaz6645 It isn’t a shit product, just underwhelming story wise.
Demon Slayer is amazing at making you feel like you've missed several episodes without actually missing any
Y'know something funny, you explained Genya's ability and limitation and my first thought was "Why isn't he the protagonist?"
I'd be more interesting, if only because Tanjiro is literally a One dimensional joke of a character.
MAD RESPECT I thought the same too after watching the vid
It’s rock lee all over again.
@@desmondcoppin591except like rock Lee, the fans let their bias turn into headcannon and because said headcannon isn’t fully developed they call it bad writing. Genya and Rock Lee are just side characters with mini side arcs not a whole ass storyline
@@zeyyyboggieewell yea but you're missing the point - being that there's more story potential to their characters already, which gives room to flesh them out and BUILD a better story in the first place.
My favourite part of demon slayer is the "Backstory no jutsu" that happens every time someone is fighting.
record of ragnarok core ❤
@@sekkzionI still love record of ragnarok though the battles are so fire
@@brrmbrrmm for your own sake, don't watch the anime...
It’s always when they’re on the brink of death too
2:38 ok this is actually insane. So many other Mangaka would have deserved that way more than Gotouge.
If anything, Isayama should've recieved it. Attack on Titan is much, much more influential in the wider world than Demon Slayer can ever hope to be.
AoT is, whether one likes it or not, 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑨𝒏𝒊𝒎𝒆. Everyone has heard of it, most like it, it has replaced the old "Big Three" as 𝐓𝐡𝐞 starter anime since basically season 1.
@@Ignatiusussy Makoto Yukimura
@@Ignatiusussy Gege is responsible for the best and worst anime community at the same time, Lobotomy "Nah, i am the one who left it all behind and with this treasure i summon are you fraud because you are the strongest curse, Jogoat, or are you always bet on Hakari?" Kaisen
@@sourcream1291 Vinland Saga is just not popular enough. Seinen in general just doesn't have as big of an audience. Otherwise Kentaro Miura and Takehiko Inoue would long be up there on TIME100.
@@Ignatiusussyattack on Titan is good. But it is nowhere near as influential as Dragon Ball by Akira Toriyama, anything by Osama Tezuka (aka The God of Comics), or even one piece by Eiichiro Oda. I'd argue out of all of those one piece deserves it the most just because Oda is one of the top 10 the highest selling authors of all time. The dude is like nine spaces away from Shakespeare. It doesn't matter what you think about the story. That is just absurdly impressive and very clearly deserving of being in the top 100 100 most influential people
Demon slayer had so much potential, it pains me to see how it actually deserves the popularity it has if the author just decided to add more than just tanjiro saying "Oh no! I cant move my body" for 5 mins"
My first introduction to Demon Slayer was watching Mugen Train in theaters with my friends. I loved it, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and I adored Rengoku. Except... one problem: I made the mistake of assuming Rengoku was an established character, and I wondered about all the character building I had missed by jumping into Mugen Train. I was really disapointed when I actually started watching Demon Slayer, and Rengoku only had like... 3 lines.
“Umai” was said more than meaningful words lmaooo
This somehow reminds me of a comment that said « Rengoku is such a well written character because he went from a background character to being memorable ».
My brother of Christ that’s how a character works, it’s not like he’s the next Historia
You do know it's intentional. It goes opposite direction in writing and how humans actually perceive their historical figures it's usually when they die that people trace back their journey. 😊
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But we learned absolutely nothing more about Rengoku after he died ?
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yea, you did. You just didn't care.
I think you're the only person I've seen address how Rengoku (and other Hashira) went from wanting to kill Tanjiro simply for sheltering a non-violent demon to being perfectly buddy-buddy afterward without any on-screen development. It was so weird and jarring to read, and before the Demon Train arc I had no idea why Rengoku could possibly be so popular.
True. New Shonen just copied Naruto ,One piece, Death note with worse stories. Jujutsu Kaisen is a rare example where it takes inspiration from old Shonen(Naruto for the most part), but still manage to be a great story(just like Naruto did). Like none of new shonen surpassed Big three for me and it's been 10 years since Naruto/Bleach ended.
Nobody addresses it because it's not an issue if you actually remember the events of the manga. The pillars ease up on the siblings because Kagaya who they all love to death vouched for Tanjiro+Nezuko, and Nezuko demonstrated she's non-violent. Muichirou and Tengen were not buddy-buddy with him at first at all. Rengoku and Kanroji are friendly to everybody by default and had no reason to quarrel with Tanjiro after they learned Nezuko could be trusted. In the pillar training arc guys like Iguro and Sanemi are still dicks to Tanjiro.
@@user-ff6dl9zr7uTrue big 3 is something else and can't be surpassed for me. Jjk is pretty good tho it's the perfect example of how to use anime tropes and do them right. Every character in jjk is well developed and useful, and the plot is really good.
@@hakunamakara Easy to trick af hashiras ngl, what a joke of elites.
That’s easy to explain, I’m pretty sure the sick guy told them to treat Tajiro like he’s one of them after the nezuko test and he’s like their head captain
You can see how little they care about any other character ASIDE from Tajiro in how Rengoku, Tengen, and most other characters dont even KNOW or SAY Zenitsu's or Inosuke's names. When Rengoku is giving his big speech, he literally refers to Tanjiro by his name but the other two as "yellow haired boy" and "boar masked". I get that the boy is the main character but COME ON. A main character means nothing if he doesn't have good supporting characters. The author is basically telling us the other side characters aren't worth remembering. In the world of demon slayer, everything and every person revolves around Tanjiro's existence. You even see this with Tanjiro forming better developed relationships with other characters than literal siblings or friends within the show. Like Aoi and Kanao, and Kanao and Shinobu are basically sisters, but it's Tanjiro who helps Aoi realize she's important? It's Tanjiro who helps Kanao gain her voice?
(Manga Spoiler)
Even during Shinobu's death, she considers Tanjiro's words before even thinking about Kanao, and when she does think of her she thinks of her in a very general sense. The other characters are so clearly made to be friends with Tanjiro alone that relationships within the show that aren't related to him are completely disregarded. The reason why shows like FMAB, Jujutsu Kaisen, even Haikyuu are good is because you see characters that arent the mc growing individually and creating relationships unrelated to the mc, many times even better developed relationships. You're allowed to focus on one character but when that single character is all that exists there becomes no world outside of them. It's the equivalent to some disney channel show where everything revolves around the star and all other characters exist to adore them or hate them.
exactly, i hate shows that revolve solely around the main character, especially when the main character is painfully boring too. its like the world of ds pauses in time whenever tanjiro isnt involved and unpauses when he is.
It's a thing with many other Shonen series. When Nagato came back for a second time and died again , he only reminisced about Naruto and maybe Jiraiya . He didn't even concern himself with the state of his country or his right-hand Konan ...😂 Every random shinobi in Narutoverse fights because thinking of him , and sometimes the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke gives them ... strength??
These are the reasons I'm more into FMAB , JJK , AoT etc than these shonens. Everyone doesn't need to be the shadow of the main character.
Wait thats so true specialy the fmab jjk, and haikyu part
This! I agree with you so much, don't get me wrong I love Tanjiro and he's my favorite character.
But it would have been better if we could've gotten to see the other characters to develop without having to mention or see Tanjiro, that would have made the series more interesting.
I've shown to a friend who didn't know Demon Slayer a picture of both Muzan and Kokushibo, and asked him to guess who is the final boss of the series.
His words were: "Are you seriously gonna tell me that this Mickael Jackson doppelganger is the final boss over this guy with spider eyes?"
The worst sin of Demon Slayer is going too fast and too slow at the same time.
Oh you want to power-up Tanjiro fast? Make a 6 month timeskip in the first episode of the story.
Oh you want to get to the higher ranked Demons but there are some lower ones yet? Write them out of the story.
Oh you want to develop many characters but you still want fights to appear frequently? Just get them a falshback before their death 10 minutes after introducing the character.
Abusive timeskips to heal or power-up characters make me lose faith in the world building, and jumping to higher and higher threats by skipping some "power levels" entirely is wrong
(And yet I like that story, It's still a good time, even in the manga, it just deserves less attention from the media and public)
I dont see the issue in most of this, the timeskip makes perfect sense, theres timeskips in most episodes, it would be worse if it was halfway through the series, and the lowermoon execution made sense, it established the power of the hashira and muzans immaturity
@@macvadda2318Bro just see latest season without zenitsu and inuzuko and it stale. Everyone is a victim whose not demon.
Upper Demons are broken af and muzan spilting into 1000 pieces and shit it's stupid and got compensated by multiple powerups to main cast.
If we didnt have all the timeskips it would be a very slow burn. In the anime i will say the fight pacing is very odd and flashbacks will run on forever.
There is definitely some pacing critique to make but its honestly still above average.
I think the training time skip is good cuz no one wants to watch him just swing or do a maze for like 40 episodes, but the lower moon dying was bad and kinda forced Tanjiro suddenly become much stronger.
i really dislike how we got one regular demon battle after tanjiro became a demon slayer. after that singular battle it was 12 kizuki member after 12 kizuki member
My biggest issue is that they want to portray the demons as once being human and not entirely evil, but they wait until the very last moment and only use a backstory to do it.
Why not show Ume and Gyutaro being siblings and make them a parallel of Tanjiro and Nezuko? Maybe the main cast can lead Daki into a trap and bait Gyutaro into coming after her because he cares more about his sister than he does about himself? That would give a good point of tension in Tanjiro's arc as well, he had to exploit someone's love for their family in order to kill them both. Thats a fucking awful thing to have to do and maybe because of that the show can examine what humanity is.
If we're willing to do bad things for "good reasons," how blurry can the line be to just doing bad?
Wow, that's a really good idea and take. It also would fit in the story, because I believe it's stated in the manga by Muzan that Gyutaro would have been much stronger had he left Ume by herself? Its clear they have a strong bond with one another, even as demons. And that could have been explored more.
My only "like" regarding this is Akaza. I like the little subversion built into his backstory, which is... he was always horrible. Like, tragic things happened to him, but his reactions were always disproportionately violent towards often innocent people. The (chronologically) first thing we ever see him do is beat the tar out of someone, and the last moment of his backstory is him massacring sixty-seven people in vengeance for something that *at most* 3 of them were involved in. If I recall correctly, Muzan was literally shocked that the man who'd done something so grisly wasn't already a demon. This is why it peeves me off so much to see a ton of fans treating Akaza as an injured sadboy when like, no!! The *entire point* was that he wasn't!!!!
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Then again, most of the time they had on screen was fighting so maybe they could chuck in a few scenes of them being demons together
I remember how Tanjiro thought that if he had become a demon, he and Nezuko would’ve ended up like Gyutaro and Daki
judging by Tanjiro’s chosen one status, he probably wouldn’t have become evil
I once had an argument with someone about the 'forced' humanization of demons when they are clearly shown to enjoy doing all that horrible shit. He kept arguing that they are humans in the past and that they are abused (why is this a reason for demons being forgivable for doing demonic shit for most of their lives?) and then I told him "that's like saying Hitler isn't all that evil because he went through WW1 as a soldier and we should forgive him"
He never spoke to me ever again.
actualy, I've heard that there is ONE female (side) character that doesn't use a feminine breathing style
it's aoi. yes, the girl from the butterfly mansion that's inosuke's love interest to the fandom.
you might then think "well, why isn't she a demon slayer with the rest of the cast??"....
it's because she got insecure after seeing muichiro fight demons so easily during the final selection...
I am so mad about that.
this manga is so cartoonishly sexist
Im still mad about the "you are the three worst ninja in the clan because you are women" thing
@@DimT670 is that about Makio, Suma and Hinatsuru?(Uzui's wives. also I didn't actualy read the manga or watch the anime, hence why I'm asking)
@Meow-boy how the hell do you know their names if you haven't seen the show?
@@opendoubloon9667 doujins im guessing lol😊
It would be less annoying if they were more female characters showed that weren't Mitsuri,Shinobu or Kanao actually working in as demon slayers in the series
As someone who likes to look at different perspectives of media that i enjoy/love, i entirely agree with this review. Now, that said, i still really love demon slayer, but i can absolutely agree that it is deeply flawed. I always look for videos like these so that i can view shows in a well rounded manner and be educated on what makes something truly special, and it never ceases to amaze me what i dont think of, and the similar things that i do think of, while im actively watching something, especially when i havent finished all of whats been released yet. I really appreciate this because i have had some really big questions that you helped answer, and it helps clarify things for me. I cant wait to watch Berserk based on your glowing review, and these video essays truly help me to open my mind up and think, what does this mean? Why are they doing this? Is this character REALLY written well? Etc.... so yes, while its great to agree with other viewpoints, i hope no one actually watches stuff like this and then feels like oh since he said this and i realize it now, i shouldnt be a fan, and then is sad and tries to dislike it. And i surely dont think thats what our guy is doing either. So just because theres a different POV of something you love that you agree with, DOES NOT MEAN that you cant or shouldnt still like/love said thing! So thank you for this amazing review, you really cleared some stuff up/ helped me clarify what i should be asking myself when it comes to the shows, movies, and even music that i love, keep an open mind guys!! Much love❤❤❤
Thank you, you're super kind! I agree with you completely, it's good to get different perspectives on things, and there's nothing wrong with liking something despite its flaws. Or maybe you could just disagree with someone that something they identified as a flaw is a negative for you, we all value different things after all! I'm really glad you liked the video, and I hope you enjoy Berserk when you check it out!
The facts that the first Upper Moon had to be killed by Tanjiro gets even more outlandish and funny, considering that *21* Hashira got sent to kill them before and all failed 💀
He's just built different😝😝😝😜😜😜😜🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
The only explanation/excuse might be that they didn’t know Daki’s and Gyotaro’s gimmick. Like Tengen at first, those hashiras might be able to cut off Daki’s head, wondering why she’s not dead yet, then got instant 2nd Boss Phase with Latin Music right in their face. But that also brings out another fridge logic: Have the previous hashiras never team up? Were they THAT solitary to go fighting an upper moon alone with literally no back up? Those repeated deaths can only be justified when a person fights alone, dies, and has no one else able to live to tell the tale of their possible weakness. As you can see in the Entertainment District arc, 4 very skilled (a hashira and 3 slayers) people can already make Daki having a difficult time. Won’t it be logical to send a lot more people for the mission after, say, 3 hashiras dying to this “demon living in the entertainment district”?
@@karntherandom1125 I think Gyutaro said that the former Hashira assumed it was easy as well, after figuring it out, right after Tengen said that it was simple to just cut both their heads off 😅
Okay, he said they didn't think the tæsk of beheading both of them at the same time was simple... But I think that at least implies that some figured it out
@@karntherandom1125 its dangerous to send multiple Hashira as not to lose your best people. however they did send two hashira to fight Rui so uhh.. i guess i cant really defend that lmao
@@cozmicdrama-music7062not sending adequate numbers of hashira is what's getting so many hashira killed kn the first place though
Honestly, I found a lot more enjoyment in watching Demon Slayer when I treat it like watching an episode of WWE. Characters getting introduced with some slight backstory to their gimmick and then being thrown into the ring to do cool fights, all building up to the season finale where we see who becomes the new champion. Works pretty well for me
This is the greatest take I’ve ever seen on the show 💀
I don't really get that, cause the story very much revolves around Tanjiro, unless you literally mean that you're just interested in who's gonna stay alive
As insulting as my buddies find this, this is my stance. I roll my eyes whenever I hear someone say it's super well-written.
Bro, it's about as riveting watching a kettle boil for a bit too long. But goddamn, is that animation glorious...
@@a_rat_named_mouse I remember when I heard about the series for the first time. People kept on saying it was so good. I started reading, and I just didn't see it. I forced myself to continue reading, thinking I had not yet reached that really good part until at some point I realised the really good part was never coming and stopped reading. And then I saw the animation quality and finally understoon why people were all over it.
I used to do the exact same thing but Season 3 even brought that enjoyment down. It was a DRAAAAAG
I love when Tanjiro says “It’s Demon Slayin’ time!” And Rengoku’s all over Muzan.
Genya and Nezuko are both utterly fascinating character concepts that their author somehow managed to underuse and do horribly wrong in Nezuko’s case. You can’t argue that Nezuko retains more of her humanity than the other demons when he actually shows less depth
One bit I do think that was done well with Rengoku is that after his death, he doesn't stop existing and we don't stop learning about him. We discover other connections he had within the corps. We learn about his family (his father was and still is an asshole), that he's actually mentored other Hashira before (he trained Mitsuri in Fire Breathing before she modified it to better suit her own needs).
A lot of people don't really do that. the character dies and suddenly the world forgets about them except maybe during an important speech or at the very end when totaling the body count.
So, props for that.
Bro everyone does that tf? Naruto, bleach, One Piece and even My Hero. That's not a special thing.
@@aaronaaron2405 People die all the time in Bleach and then get forgotten constantly. And in My Hero....I'm trying to remember who dies in My Hero who wasn't already dead at the start of the show. I'm sure there's someone but idk I can't think of them off the top of my head. Which is an issue. lol
Naruto definitely does that. Naruto specifically uses certain deaths as significant events in the series. Turning points just about.
@@Axxidous that one guy in season 4 who can see the future
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Someone in s6 who’s name I can’t say bc spoilers too
@@amdete8254 oh that’s true in season 6, a lot die.
The best way to put it: The manga feels incomplete. There are things that feel like they were supposed to be developed later on.
Yeah, like half of the hashiras. We got a quick story just for them to die so abruptly 💀
@@Temp-nj8rmyeah like the video said, the author wanted to focus on Tanjiro and make him the center of the universe, almost feel like other characters are just filler characters lol
The story had to be cut short due to health issues unfortunately
The plot lines are abruptly cut in half but not in a subversive way, the moment all the lower moons died you immediately felt the hand of the author.
Meanwhile the fights are DRAWN OUT as much as possible, with flashbacks interjected whenever a fight picks up.
It’s like he wants to end it right away in the slowest manner possible.
eh I dont think thats what he's saying. It's not incomplete it is literally just bad. not like its gonna revert all of its flaws after being completed
Funny how SAO and Demon Slayer have pretty similar heck exact same problems. But one is a "MASTERPIECE" while people shit on others.
SAO is worse tho, not that DS is a masterpiece or anything but at least it knows how to appease all ages unlike the former
At least Demon Slayer has decent action on a more basic level.
I think this is an exercise in showing that amazing animation can make even the worst stories extremely popular.
And it really depends on taste though in my opinion.
Microcosm for society
Looks > substance
I read the manga and enjoyed it too :/
Good animation makes everything better, sure
But you can't just put animation on nothing and make it good and popular
I’ll be honest, Rengoku’s death got a little emotion out of me, not because of Tanjiro and his friends wailing. But solely because his crow was crying. That’s it. The bird shedding a tear was more than enough for me lol
Damn you haven't watched much better anime then
@@XDGamer88 Demon Slayer is trash tbh. It's not a show you have to really even think about, it's more like a turn your brain off or leave it as background noise typa show. It's an extremely two dimensional story with a literal straight path to whatever they have to do. One Demon gets defeated, Muzan says "Why is this mf not dead yet?" the minions say "Oh yes we will get on that right away" then one of the minions pull up and gets killed or heavily injured and Muzan gets mad and does his whole little spiel about how weak the minions are and then he sends another one then it just repeats until all the Upper Moon are dead then Muzan is the last big bad and he gets beaten and end of story. The main cast is also not much better, Nezuko is literally just a walking vegetable plot device, if you replace her with a half-eaten apple the story would literally not change.
@mulanomula it feels like you're the type of person that says code geass is the best anime along side deathnote because they made you think not trying to insult but yet again just saying complexity doesn't always mean good
@@mulanomulait's simple and that's not bad.
Great animation and simple emotional story with some badass characters.
Not everything has to be a deathnote.
@@bu11ymaguire yes not everything has to be death note but when you leave plotdevices like zenitsu falling asleep and just being his normal self except asleep then that's when the rating becomes lowered. nezuko is literally not even a character she's just a tool used to start and end the story. if you want simple done correctly it would be mob psycho 100 or cowboy bebop. i guarantee that if the animation wasn't amazing no one would be watching or hyping up demon slayer lmao.
RE: the suggested change to Rengoku's death: Imagine if he clearly defined himself by protecting People, and establish that he does NOT see demons as people, just monsters.
Then when he sacrifices himself for Nezuko, he could repeat a line about how he protects people. And so we have an indirect method, via the repetition of a line with new meaning, that he now recognizes her as a person, not just a demon.
DUDE that would be so much better!!! the WEIGHT that would have too, him turning and looking back and saying "I protect people, remember?" and smiling or something like that, would it be cheesy? absolutely. would it hit hard as fuck? YES.
@@memeyartist5591 Yeah. Cheese can be easy to produce, but it works. Clichés get done repeatedly for a reason.
Ugh I remember being really just whelmed over his death because he died the same arc he was given focus in. Very little development and you expect me to feel all emotional over a character who I barely got to know? Yeah it doesn't work.
And what if this act of sacrifice prompts Nezuko to actually have an opponent to go against? Akaza states he doesn't eat or attack women. But how long would that ideology last if challenged by a demon with massive potential for strength which he values and is not controlled by Muzan like a puppet, unlike him?
This would lead Nezuko to seek to avenge Rengoku and would force Akaza to bend his ideals to survive/get rid of this potential nuisance. Having Nezuko be his rival would give him the dream of fighting someone who could match up to his love of fighting, but at the cost of his ideology.
But hey, that's just a theory.
That's so much better dude
I honestly feel like My Hero Academia is beginning to suffer from a lot of the same issues that not just Demon Slayer, but damn near every modern made shonnen suffers from. Speed running through any meaningful character writing, introducing characters that are supposed to be super strong but just die flaccidly after 20 minutes of screen time, and all the characters are beginning to all feel like half baked caricatures rather than characters with any sort of relatability
I agree with you but what I appreciate from My Hero academia is that it isn't repetitive like Demon Slayer.
Each season had some plot changes, mha may not have be the perfect story but its at better than DS.
I remember watching Mugen Train and when I reached the end of it I thought to myself “Was I supposed to cry just now? Am I heartless?” Turns out it was just poor writing🤦
My big problem with Demon Slayer is they have a whole system of different powers, but Tanjiro solves all his problems with "But what if I TRY HARDER?" Like, Jojo started that way, then Araki realized that was boring so he changed it from "but what if I TRY HARDER" to "But what if I use my air magic karate ghost to make pure oxygen that freezes the poison slime that other guy's poison snail karate ghost uses to make my hands invisible, and then I can punch his stupid face?" And like, I'm a sucker for the hero trying harder, but you can do BOTH (cough cough steel ball run cough)
I felt so mad seeing him in season 3 thinking about how Zenitsu's speed would have been a life saver in that situation, and then just proceeds to ACQUIRING HIS SPEED and jumping the demon
@@Henrique-wv9xqthe sheer _ease_ at which he can acquire thunder breathing just makes me think "why not learn all of them if it's that easy?" Also does this make zenitsu useless now?
@@Garvant_ i mean, he didn't use thunder breathing, he used total concentration breathing to kick the ground with a trick zenitsu taught him
All these comments are people who just want to hate to hate, it's hilarious. It’s like they don’t read what they’re typing before hitting send. It’s all just hate from their own insecurities about their favorite anime. That goes to this creator too. Just complaining to complain, kinda like a female.
@@svKamNah complaining ab mediocre writing mate.
One of my biggest problems with demon slayer is that the Hashira and the main gang seem like the only demon slayers. There are tons of others that you see just constantly dying like canon fodder and seem like they can't use breathing at all and contribute nothing. This is explained as people either quickly die or become powerful but you never see anyone rise up to near Hashira levels besides Tanjiro and all the Hashira just seem to be complacently waiting around for their arc. Like, HOW did these nine become Hashira in the first place? It feels like some are just Hashira because there need to be powerful people to fight with Tanjiro but even by the end of the series Tanjiro never meets their level of skills and power.
He literally reaches the level of Hashira in everything but name based on his Sun Breathing alone.
As somone who loves demon slayer even I noticed that all the other demon slayers look the same.
@@EdelYT If he practiced more, he would have became the strongest Hashira, but he just played Ring Around The Rosy with Muzan.
What do you think a Tsuguko is?? Being a hashira has specific implications and requirements that you HAVE to meet. The "cannon fodder" demon slayers literally do not have a breathing technique which is why they will never get as far as the main cast without being a Tsuguko. It was stated throughout the series a number of times that Hashira come and go all the time, mostly due to a power gap at the top of the ranks when existing hashira die (or quit). To be a Hashira (and there can only be one of a kind at a time) you have to literally be the best living person in the era of your breathing technique. Not sure how you missed that... I haven't even read the damn manga.
maybe because they are the strongest humans going against the strongest demons? every other demon is fodder because they dont have the same centuries of experience that the upper moons have and same for humans relatively speaking, tanjiro and crew just barely scrape by despite being the main characters. Tanjiros goal is never to get the rank of hashira, nor being the strongest demon slayer, its simply to save his sister and defeat muzan, not every show has to be about the mc wanted to become the best/hokage/hashira/wizard king.
what I can't stand about demon slayer is how they have the characters (mainly Tanjiro) explain everything that is happening to them. Someone is running towards Tanjiro and he goes "Oh no! He's running towards me!" like yes dude we see it
Jujutsu Kaisen Literally does the same exact thing, on top of that they include a narrator to double that factor more than demon slayer
@@combo4461 i get annoyed when jjk does it too but it’s so prominent in demon slayer and it slows down the fights. especially this past season. i found myself skipping so many random monologues
Every shounen does that
This this and this
That thing pisses me off😭
Thank you! Those were my exact thoughts as well and the reason why I stopped watching it after 15 minutes. I couldn’t stand it
Did I watch this entire video and agree with every point? Yes.
Am I still going to watch the series? Also yes.
Based
Another quick thing is how lacking Muzan is as the main antagonist I just feel like you’re supposed to fear him, you’re supposed to feel like he’s the big bad but it’s just underdeveloped bc he’s not involved in the story enough especially since he doesn’t directly interact with tanjiro that often
He’s kinda like how Naraku in Inuyasha got really tiring.
@@NANA-me9tj no Naraku in Inuyasha was super present in the story, Inuyasha and co. fought a lot of times against him, and never compare mid slayer with Inuyasha again please
But theres an whole entire arc to Find muzan and the uppermoons. The reason why he doesn't do that is that he sends uppermoons to kill him and tanjiro has to kill them with hashiras.
@@Nandomo00 peak slayer
@@zukosvfx Mid Slayer
As an illustrator, I come back to Demon Slayer specifically for the art. But goddamn it feels like a chore to get through any of the storytelling in the show.
art? casi todos los diseños se parecen XD
@@MarcoPerez04 The animation and colors are gorgeous, and I like the use of line weight. Additionally the shots are composed really well. Again, it's specifically because I'm an illustrator that I enjoy it. If you think stylistically it all looks the same, that's fine. That's up to preference. For me it is a good study in how a lot of foundational technical elements are executed.
@@MarcoPerez04 It actually has a pretty good styling. The eyes on the characters being the best example I can think of.
@@whocares8576 wtf, a ver explica como es eso
the art? you mean the anime lol.
dont even get me started on demon slayers manga art.
Holy.. this was the critique I've been looking for. I couldn't understand what I was missing that everyone was praising it for(aside from animation, but even then it wasn't always amazing in that department either).
Almost felt like the world around me was 'gaslighting' me into thinking this is actually well written fiction when I KNOW it's not.
I'm surprised there was no mention on how convenient Nezuko's powers are
I'm now obsessed with "HE'S JUST AWAKE BUT WITH MORE STEPS"
I am a roleplayer (yes ik weird) and I originally thought the demon slayer writing was decent until people had started asking questions (this was a group roleplay) and I started doing research and I realized there was little to no info on ANYTHING, a lot of the plot points just happened because IT D I D
Honestly, if you can efficiently roleplay a character is a good litmus test for they are well written or not and if there are holes in either backstory or personality
It aint so much weird as it is ultimately a waste of creative energy. I'd personally recommend anyone into roleplaying put that energy into writing something original, or even writing a good fanfiction (as someone that used to roleplay years ago lol)
Don't take my word as gospel or judgement though, do what makes you happy.
@@thegatorhator6822I don't even know how to do either
YEAH, no for one of my roleplays, me and my roleplay partner are very aware the series is not well developed nor worldbuilded enough, so what we do is play with the plot and worldbuilding like putty. (NGL, i'm only not naming it so I don't have to explain myself lmao)
Writing a story and role-playing are COMPLETELY different. Saying it's a waste of talent is pretty dumb
I'm half-way through and holy crap, Rengoku is doing a bang-up job staying alive and talking to Tanjiro while sporting a hole in his chest that not even a Terminator could cause.
That's because he's sooooo good at breathing
@@Goma19Chaine without a heart and possibly lungs?
@@henriqueferreira5165 that injury would miss his heart and lungs entirely. His bowel would be perforated though. He will be quickly bleeding to death.
This is the same channel that loves One Piece.
Let's not talk about how many holes were inside of Whitebeard.
More impressive than tanjiro running a mile without so much as a limp while chasing that demon at the end of the swordsman village arc after having his foot crushed?
The most interesting implication for a character in this story is that one kid who’s descended from the OG sun breath user. He uses fog breathing or something, and everyone’s like “he’s descended from that one guy!! That makes him important!” And then Tanjiro shows up and he’s just some guy. That can sun breathe.
Like, imagine being fog boy.
I read all of Demon Slayer in the span of about a week or so, probably about two years ago. For the longest time, I literally could only remember Tanjirou, Nezuko, Inosuke, and Rengoku’s names. I could not remember anyone else’s. Demon Slayer’s characters just do not have that memorability for me, and have almost zero staying power. The only ones above whose names I could remember were due to main character and main character’s sister, funny boar man, and ridiculous hair guy. Inosuke was the only one that had a real personality, silly as it was. My reaction when finishing it was “yeah it was ok”.
Compare to Bleach, which had more memorable characters that I still think back to sometimes.
Excellent analysis!
I think the absolutely simplistic plotline is partly why it's so popular. I sat down to watch Mugen Train with my little brother (he's really into the series) and my parents decided to join us. Neither of them had seen the first season and it only took a minute to catch them up with a summary. No one had any problems keeping up with the story and my mother cried her eyes out over Rengoku.
The action kept my father engaged (a crazy feat as he isn't much of a television person) and the humor had my brother rolling. It's not the peak of storytelling by any means, but it can keep an audience entertained and engaged at multiple age groups, which is a strength all on its own.
I agree! The story of demon slayer isn't complicated or unique, but its very accessible and doesn't need too much thought. Which isn't always a bad thing. Yeah the characters can be done better but they're not terrible, and the worldbuilding isn't super detailed but it still works in world. Even my mom, a woman with about 0 education, was able to enjoy the movie.
A simple plotline is probably why, yeah way to many shows have complicated plots that aren’t needed.
As an older dude who loves anime, I always find it funny when people/kids discuss stories in shounen.
It's basically all the same thing all the time, but apparently story in one series is miles better than the other.
Some kid gets thrown into a strange situation. He needs to get more power to achieve his goal. His friends die. He cries and talks to himself a lot. He wins in the end.
Whether he needs to defeat a demon, alien, clan, whatever... It's all the same 95% of the time.
Reminds me of those 80s revenge movies where a cop loses his partner and goes on a killing rampage. There were hudreds of those made and people still enjoyed them.
I just see it as a nice evening when I feel like not thinking over a couple of beers.
Loool that's so cute that your mom cried for Rengoku who is such a shallow character, I literally laughed when he died cause it meant nothing. I was like lmao wtf cares, he's a nobody. I guess he's a tiny bit more nuanced in the manga but meh.
well when you are someone who consumes a lot of media than the average viewer, demon slayer is okay and a show you have seen before with a different coat of paint. Not a bad show entirely but personally i got bored.
The thing about the Hashira not teaming up is a glaring plot hole.
I don't think they'd need a territory to be stationed at if you have so many ranks of demon slayers
Y'all are at war, these fights should be 3+ Hashira fighting an upper rank in all fights
Yeah and the fact that they do reunite without issue whenever the plot wants them to doesn't make it easier to buy. It feels like the show would be over if they teamed up or if Muzan moved his lazy ass from his seat instead of sending after Tanjiro demons that match his current power level. But nope, seems like Hashira are too busy fighting weak demons that other slayers could handle and the Moons are too busy looking for flowers.
@@kaijingarou6526 Well , spoilers, they do all team up for the last 3 upper demons and muzan
Think about Uzui: He goes to the butterfly mansion, trying to get some female squad members.. and picks a nobody and our main guys to go with him. God forbid he asks Kanao and/or friggin Shinobu to go with him! Picture Shinobu in the battle finding a way to neutralize the poison since she's an expert. The Nezuko asspull fire would not have been needed. And having a healer with them would make everyone surviving without lasting injuries (except Uzui) so much more reasonable.
@@AnarchHive I think the problem with that is that I do not think he knew was going for an upper moon, so he wouldn't wanna waste shinobu's time on some bullshit mission
@@iloveorganicchem6921 That may be what happened, but it just makes me more curious: Over 100 years they lost several hashira and other corps members in this district and they did not suspect there is a kizuki? Don't the demon slayers keep records?
As an amateur writer myself, I sometimes watch critique videos like this to try and fish out some points to flesh out on.
Either I'm too tired to use my brain right now, or I'm not finding anything really worth building off of. Cheers man, great video :D
Yes Same I've been wanting to improve my writing So I try watching videos like these to see what I'm doing and if I'm doing it right and what to avoid
I mean it's the discrepancies for writers and critics right? Critics voice their criticism knowing full well it can disregard the writers point of view and ended up being petty, or the writers just know deep in their heart that their writing is perfect and forget people have different opinions on it
You said that you won't really change someone's mind, but i have to say I've absolutely changed my mind about demon slayer. I finished reading manga quite recently, and i really couldn't point my finger at the specific things i don't like, but you managed to summarise them extremely well and easy to understand. Great job, man, keep this up!
Here's how you fix sun breathing. It's the most powerful breathing form against demons because it gives the user the intensity of demons' weakness, the goddamn sun. But it has a massive drawback. Because it has the power of the sun, it can easily kill the user and takes very intense training to master. Even in the training, many trainees have died, which is why there are so few sun breathers. Because Tanjiro is a water breather, even the basics of sun breathing are difficult because the sun literally evaporates water. Imagine a training arc where you're constantly on edge that Tanjiro will die and fucks up his body in the process, and if other characters actually died training sun breathing. And imagine how rewarding it would be when Tanjiro finally masters sun breathing and defeats a powerful foe.
See how easy that was?
The problem with that is that it implies that the breathing techniques don't JUST alter your techniques and do literally have special supernatural effects. Which opens up an entirely different can of worms. If all you say is it's strong because it "have the intensity of the sun which is the demons weakness" that logically doesn't make any sense because a human is not the sun.
I really hope this video makes a stupid statement like this so I can click off knowing it has no credence 💀
okay but I do not believe that you are going to kill tanjiro so there is no tension here
" Imagine a training arc where you're constantly on edge that Tanjiro will die and fucks up his body in the process"
There's be no edge, because it's obvious he wouldn't die
@@huntersuper98the implication is more the physical output of sun breather is enough to turn their swords bright red, adding the "supernatural" heat equivalent of the sun which demons are weak against. The drawback is pushing one's body beyond the boundaries like that is not healthy and ultimately, harmful to one's body (unless you're the original user). The significance of red blade is even more evident if you consider traditional kendo favour good cuts (techniques) rather than just swinging a sword (I.e. even with a good cut the speed and friction to air is still enough to heat the sword up)
This trope has been done before with prime example is rurouni kenshin, where his techniques are actually harmful to his underdeveloped body
The argument about it's just breathing, well a marathon runner will breath differently to weight lifter and to a sprinter, right? It can be inferred from their sub techniques as well (flower, bug, beast, etc...) that each school will focus on a different athletic output of the extra force generated. A good example is when Tanjiro attempts thunder breathing in the latter episode (prioritising legwork of thunder over general output with long combat in mind of water). To me that subtle details is good representation of how sun is the progenitor of all breathing
I always found it so silly that Nezuko is basically just a mascot for the entire series. When watching the anime for the first time I was confused why Tanjiro never really tried to communicate with his sister beside some small comedy moments and when they literally hit pause on the whole nezuko thing by purtting her in a coma so that Tanjior can have his training arc I knew that Nezukos character would never be anything else than motivation and gimmick for Tanjiro since he is obviously the important main character. The start of the series sets up a somewhat compeling dynamic between the two and then proceeds to do literally nothing with it.
Like they could have even solved the issue on why Tanjior is special and able to defeat demons no one else can with his cooperation wit Nezuko and their teamwork instead of just giving him secret magic powerup.
nezuko is just used for aiding tanjiro - that's all her character is, like you said. she's cute, yes, she had the potential to be strong on her own. the unfortunate 'but' to this is that during the spider family arc, she only really helped to burn the cobwebs surrounding tanjiro as well as put a little tinge to his blade. in the mugen train arc, she was really only used to burn the ropes around the passenger's wrists. during the red light district, she didn't necessarily serve a purpose except to be there. when people say their favorite character is nezuko, i pause and think, 'how?' because of how poorly she was written. she's merely a tool in tanjiro's journey, his 'reason' to keep trekking on with his demon slaying job until he reaches muzan kibutsuji. her character simplicity really makes my head hurt.
this is called misogyny :(
@@GustavoIto no, it's called bad writing.
@@pahradahdinaniniaaaaaaaaaand misogny
@@SkylarThompson-mu1qs i disagree nezuko is very strong with good hax knowing shes constantly holding back so as to not become fully demon or whatever shes monumental in the plot and his brothers journey from aiding him in battle like getting his sword to become red to forcing him to choose between her and the swordsmiths conquering the sun and proving to be very important asset against muzan, she is strong but we need to remember she aint eating humans and is therefore willingly nerfing herself you guys dont wanna understand that ds is succesful not only for the animation but it beat op in manga sales at one point too so that animation go brr crap is cap its a great story with relatable characters and a misunderstood story by the likes of ppl like yall and the maker of the video. npt every characters needs to be incredibly complex and not everyone is a misogynist
demon slayer is hard carried by its animation, its so beautiful but the story is so bland and boring
I enjoy Demon Slayer, but never really took it too seriously. I already had some of the same criticisms that you mentioned like lack of set up/ characters looking all the same age and babyish/no real difference in breathing techniques. And you pointed out more that I do agree with. However I’ll still watch cause at least pretty colors and nice music 😁
This genya segment make me realise just how much cool he would have been if he was the main character , imagine the sheer despair he would feel that he can't be at all a demon slayer because he can't use breathing technique , the story we could tell how he discover he can eat demon to gain stronger and how much it tell about is willpower , the shame he must feel about is brother , the potential of conflits with demon because how how much can resemble them in a fight , damn i want this story NOW.
That would just be Black Clover with demons tho
@@Bruh-fy1jk i think you should reread your comment then comeback with a better answer if you want to.
Its ridiculous having the main character not be able to utilize the power system in their own show either sucks or makes the character ridiculously over powered as he needs to have an incredibly ridiculous alternative.
@@moonie1825 You guy should really stop commenting before thinking , it make you look bad and lack any creativity , first the one that use black clover as a argument then this , the funny things is black clover could be considrate as one of those mangas that do that , now you problably are just a kid so just go do something better.
@@moonie1825 But, but, in this example and as the video states, the powers are practically interchangeable they accomplish the same goal and it's not incredibly ridiculous because it's a thing that already exists within the current confines of the world and would be made less ridiculous by actually being able to develop it, as well as giving a legitimate believable reason why the protagonist is special relative to everyone else.
Another problem is that Koyoharu fails to establish Nezuko as a character before turning her into a nocturnal Pokémon for the duration of the series. Moments like the Rui fight or Nezuko going Berserk and almost eating someone would actually work if we knew what Nezuko was like before becoming a demon because it would actually establish her and Tanjiro’s relationship as siblings.
Yeah, like we should have had like first episode to just establish characters. Second episode in which Tanjiro's family dies. Third episode Tanjiro discovers Nezuko is a demon and meets Giyu.
@@ErutuffLOL it’s just as bad in the manga. Koyoharu dedicates exactly 3 pages to Tanjiro’s family before Tanjiro leaves to sell charcoal.
@@_mcNeill Even less time was spend on Maximus' family and no one complains about it.
Ig none of y'all know how naturally close rural people like Tanjiro's family are and how much it would take to worsen thier bonds. It shows. I'm suspecting y'all haven't even read or seen any other stories involving rural families. Tanjiro's familiy is an archtype and aren't ment to be anything else, that's why they weren't given time. Like how Muzan is immediantly an evil dude, Tanjiro's family is immediantly poor, struggling, but otherwise perfect loving family.
@@paytonogallagher3284 bro, I literally spent almost half of my life in rural areas.
this series is a shounen speedrun. the novelty people are enamored with is that it isn't 600+ chapters when the issue is that it didn't get to make anything really happen with its extended cast. basically lol2short
This puts into words my sheer... apathy for Demon Slayer as a whole. I gave it a solid try all the way through season 1 but could never justify returning back to it, even as it got accolades upon accolades.
The story just never resonates. There's no struggle, nor relatable character interaction nor characters that I want to root for.
It all just felt so synthetic and this video explains why.
Jjk has way more conveniences and ass pulls than even demon slayer does. Also, no struggle? Are you serious right now? Of course the show is mid all told, but not because of the lies you just listed
It starts so strong but the ending feels like the author was totally done with the story. Absolutely speed ran the moons. Also never really developed Tanjiro in any meaningful way.
Sorry to be a asshole or a defender but the only reason that is cause she was very rushed cause at the time that’s when the anime started to get released
@@braydonlarawhat? Really? That is your argument?
Speed ran the moons? All of those fights were amazing
@@thegoodeboy2016 literally watched as Muzan wiped out like half of them lol
@@barningknight8683 I think he meant the lowermoons
I am SO pissed about the lower moons getting scrapped out, it would've made Tanjiro's growth so much more tolerable and satisfying if he defeated them with relative ease, plus thats 5 arcs that wouldve helped with the pacing of the story but i guess theyre just gone
exactly!
Yeah it would've helped with the pacing and would've sold the difference between upper and lower moons in terms of strength way better, if they showed the main cast struggling to beat the lower moons and eventually getting stronger than them, only for the upper moons to completely shit on them would've had more impact
@@elijahaaron6949bro the way they killed two upper moons make it seems like they are weak
I mean writing Manga is pretty darn hard especially the deadlines and such.
I can understand wanting to get out while the goings good and shortening your story to hurry to the climax after it gets popular, getting rid of the Lower Moons means you don't have to write their personalities, abilities, or put much effort in their designs.
@@vincegalila7211that’s just lazy writing tbh
bro, the way you re-write Rengoku... why didn't they thought about that?
Because they don't give 2 shits about their writing and have to hire great animators to do all the work for them.
how the fuck genya is not the protagonist? their story sound way better than plainjiro. how a missed opportunnity
Ngl, that Genya section just made me realize he should’ve been the protagonist. He had a very tragic backstory, a good motivation, Sanemi(his older brother, scar hashira dude for the uninformed) as a sort of roadblock. Hell, Tanjiro could’ve been a perfect foil, the kid with the strongest breathing style and a good relationship with his demonic sister while Genya has a shitty one with his human brother. I recently saw a comic where Genya bonded with Shinobu(poison breathing hashira) because they both had deficiencies as demon slayers and I think that would’ve been fucking awesome to see in the actual series
Kokushibo victim 😂😂
@@Prinxce3_ lmao when you put it that way
After seeing the vid, I agree
@@Prinxce3_don't REMIND me
Did u call shinobu the poison breathing hashira😂
i will never forgive how the mugen train arc just turned zenitsu and inosuke into comedy relief rather than potentially delve into their deeper psyche like it did with tanjiro and rengoku. that would have been a perfect moment to flesh out zenitsu's character, and reflect on his relationship with his teacher, and maybe possibly hint at how kaigaku ruined all of that.
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i come back 8 months later to say that my opinion has not changed. in fact, i'll even double-down on it. zenitsu and inosuke as the deuteragonists should have been properly fleshed out during this arc. "but it's about rengoku"--and? tanjiro still got his dream sequence showing just how traumatic the loss of his family was, and how he was willing to give up a blissful dream for the greater good. the later development we got with zenitsu and inosuke was, dare i say it, sloppy. came straight out of nowhere, like it was written last-minute. no build-up, no hints, nothing. so yeah, they were unfairly snubbed in a moment that could have been crucial to their characters.
Didn't have to because you wanted to. EVERYTHING doesn't need to Arcane or Game of thrones. Let this fun series be that fun. If didn't have fun that's okay you I assume are an adult can find something else that has characters like demon slayer
@oyamampendu9467 lmao chill bro just as that is your opinion this is mine lets be grown ups
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For the record, i love demon slayer. I was obssessed when it first came out, but i also acknowledge it had flaws.
@@oyamampendu9467 What a weird fucking take, it must have gotten under your skin because you seem really defensive to immediately compare it to 2 amazing stories with amazing characters, and then turn around and say that shit character writing/development is some insane ask like the OP asked Demon to be like those 2 shows or because HE want's it to are you sure you are an adult with arguing like that?. You do know that you can have great character writing that doesn't need to be unfun right like 100s of great COMEDY shows, seriously wtf? and then say :"i assume you are an adult" like some childish own? It's okay to like a show because it's beautiful or fun, but don't say a show should not have good writing because it's "FUN" i bet it would be even better and fun with better characters/writing.
They always were a source of Comic relief. Zenitsu passes out at the first sign of danger and inosuke is a wild man who wears a pig head and can’t pronounce simple names.
They are still badasses.
@RulerOfYore and im not saying that was a bad thing.
The issue was that they, in that arc, felt especially two dimensional. It just would have been nice to see them written more properly, seeing as they had just as big a role later in the series as tanjiro.
I never enjoyed demon slayer. it felt like it was missing something.
I was recommended this video by Thestarfishface and I think this does a great job of putting into words why I just could not keep interest in Demon Slayer. Thank you.
The immense popularity of Demon Slayer owes itself to the gorgeous animation. Strip that away and it's a simplistic but decent story with some heart (a brother tryna save his younger sister).
amen
You mean the boring and forgetable plotpoint that serves nothing to the plot? Bruh
The story is the weakest part, I wouldn't call it decent by any means. But the art is really good
Recall how DS was barely mentioned by anyone until Episode 19 came out, and then it suddenly became the most popular manga on the planet for a year
@@juniperrodley9843 Ye ep. 19 is what _really_ made me a fan. It was stunning.
The fact that from tanjiro's entire adventures through the series, tanjiro didn't encounter an awful or genuinely evil human that's similar to humans shown in flashbacks of demons or humans in general. He always meet kind people or rude people that will turns out they are actually kind. He never seen the cruel reality of the world that everyone is facing, basically the chosen one.
genuinely evil humans don't exist in real life
very stupid and selfish people do exist, but evil beings aren't a thing no matter how many media products have them
That demon that kidnapped girls and kept their hairpieces, muzan, upper 4,?!?!!?!?!?!?
@@lisagonzalez1371 I am talking about humans not demons 🤦
@@lisagonzalez1371genuinely evil **human**
Wtf do you mean never seen the cruel reality of the world😂 the dudes entire family got murdered
Keep coming back to this video, its really great and sums up my feelings so much!! Me and my partner tried to watch Demon Slayer but never finished it because honestly it just gets......boring. Although it was very funny when the head vampire, i mean demon, runs into the MC on the street and he looks kind of like Michael Jackson?!
I'm fucking ecstatic that you talked about Rengoku. I honestly have no idea why he is such a beloved character when we have next to nothing on him. All we got is his name, rank, breathing technique, past and bits of his personality. That's it! That's all! Little to no interactions with him. Then he dies. I was like "Am I supposed be be was right now or..." I honestly didn't care and don't know why anyone else would.
My biggest problem with the series was that it seemed to reverse set up and pay off. We keep seeing pay offs happen with no build up and then the explanation comes after.
Whenever Tanjiro gets into a bad place, he gets a power up out of nowhere and the explanation of how it’s possible comes later.
like when he mixed water breathing and hinokami kagura to save Hinatsuru
@@Xer0280 what's wrong with that? He was in a tight spot, was thinking how to use the resources and abilities available to him, and came up with this mixed style. It wasn't out of nowhere, been practicing hinokami kagura, and of course knew water breathing. Up until this point, we only saw pure forms used, so this seemed like a logical and creative way of using the styles. Also, from what I can tell (by only watching anime, and avoiding manga spoilers), Sun Breathing being like the OG style, and every other is a derivative, it actually makes sense that they can be used in complement. Lacking ability/stamina to perform a pure HK move, you fill the gap with WB
@@Tajbor87 no, I just kinda wished we got to hear his thought process as he mixed breathing styles. Like, he could've gotten a flashback to when Urokodaki told him that 'water can change into any form' and then boom, he just does the move
@@Xer0280 I understand what you mean, and sometimes that can be a good approach. Depending on how they achieve it, it will lead to pacing issues. Many shows do that (I think even this one, too), they actually take you out of the scene for a long time to do a flashback.
I don't think you actually need all those flashbacks with long explanations if something has been built up logically. They don't even have to mention it specifically if it fits in the logic. They just allude to it with something that will remind the reader, it's much less in-your-face that way. Spoonfeeding info may mean you underestimate your audience's capability to make the connections.
I feel like you just described Bleach and Ichigo.
Alternatively about Zenitsu's moves, it would be interesting if instead of him slowly learning moves throughout the story he slowly CREATES his own branching line of Lightning Breathing better suited to his style since he can't master the other more traditional forms. Until when he fights his rival instead of using the thunder breathing moves that he would be used to seeing and mastered himself he finds that Zenitsu has created his own set of forms and fighting style with the basis of that first form.
Yknow-- like how lightning itself branches out
Well spoiler if you haven't read the manga
He actually does, he is its first and last user
@@danielgeronimo5538 still, it’s ONE move. It’d be better if it was like 4 or 5
@@danielgeronimo5538he makes one attack and it’s just a slight derivative of the one he already knows
@@gdaddy584 godspeed?! thats a move 6 and 10 fold could be considered moves.
@@faintkiwi5178Nah, Its just Zenitsu turning around. Would you consider all the rasengan forms to be **New** moves?
You nailed the problem with Tanjiro. I was cringing everytime he had felt super sad about killing the demons who themselves killed dozens if not HUNDREDS of people!
I swear, dude could kill Hitler and still feel bad about it
It's crazy how untouchable it was in 2019, I watched it with a friend as it came out and we could not make heads or tails as to why it was being hyped up. I was 23 then, and I assume much of the audience that liked it then was either in their teens or perhaps even younger, and as time passes those kids seem to be growing out of it I've begun to notice, which is good. It always struck me as being similar to Blue Exorcist, which came out around 2011, I recall that show was extremely hyped up by the casuals for reasons beyond comprehension, people who watch or read the least amount of anime and manga tend to be the loudest about whatever they actually do consume I suppose.
hopefully you'll grow out of your condescending elitist phase too
Mack writing Rengoku to be an actual good character in less than 2 minutes is for some reason really funny 💀
How is rengoku not a good character wha?
@@kittylitty01 Just watch the Rengoku segment again 👍
@@kittylitty01 dudes in the manga for like 5 chapters. When does he have to time be well written?
@@PvtFlowershe doesn't. They say he is lovable,but he just has unreasonable amount of positivity which is unrealistic and won't get you far in real life so it's pretty hard to relate to him for most people.
@@doraafelfedezoofisol I think that’s what a lot of people like about him. He still tries to be happy and supportive of his little brother despite his dad not wanting him to be a Hashira. The other Hashiras seem to like him since he’s so friendly and outgoing.
"There is not a single female character that doesn't use a feminine breathing style."
Welcome to Japan.
What exactly is “feminine breathing style” and why is it bad… for women to have?
Sounds like Japan doesn’t hate women. Whereas the West pretends women don’t actually exist because “a woman can be anything,” as I’ve actually heard people say before
I could've been cool to have like the biology of females being different enough in the demon slayer world at least to where women HAVE to use different breathing styles.
Also I have not watched demon slayer but I was considering it, now I know better
@@The_Last_Pac I haven't either. Me and my circle are watching the video together to see if he's full of shit or not. As of no I'm leaning toward believing what he said about it is true.
will Mitsuri is a ex flame breather, but later down the line she figured that it just didn't fit her special attributes and made her own. While I think its fair to ask why there aren't any "non feminine" breathing styles used by woman. I also have to wonder WHY it is such a big issue to some people.
@@bossmendez8923 Don't know. Maybe he's a college Liberal fresh off of campus and he still sees everything through that bullshit 2015 Anita Sarkeesian lense.
Demon Slayer is basically the Michael Bay Transformers of anime, looks pretty cool and entertaining but the story is nothing deep and no relatable main characters.
Трансформеры раз в сто более продуманные и душевные, чем эта параша. Особенно это заметно в сравнении с бездушным бамбалби
even transformers is better than demon slayer. at least 2007 had a good plot
Having actually rewatched all of the Bay movies in the last couple of weeks, they aren't bad.
I found the story of the first to be too focused on explaining things, but 2, 3, and especially 4, are pretty good. 5 was bloated and nonsensical, almost the worst one.
Better than the new movies at least, which are unbearably bland.
Here after hearing of the tragic passing of Akira Toriyama because the sentence "I don't even like Dragon Ball and I think that's BULLSHIT!" came to mind