88% damage proof Hexwraiths
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Gelt: "My wounds heal faster than you can make them. We can do this all day and you would not be any closer to beating me, not that it wouldn't be fun. But I got good news: You see, you no longer have to wonder where your God is. Cause he's right here! And he's fresh out of mercy. "
A wild SAO abridged reference. Very rare indeed
Gelt is my favorite empire lord, and one kf my favorite lords overall. So good
@@saltefan5925 but so the more awesome
random empire soldier: *Starts crying*
I read this in Samuel L. Jackson’s voice
"I AM SUPREME" - Gelt as usual.
I like how, at the start of the video, Heinrich and Markus are both looking off into the bushes like there's a dead skink in there or something.
"Poke it" *"You poke it"*
@@tigersympathiser2265 "You do it! You're the necromancer!"
"Well, you're the hunter!"
The reason why gaze of Nagash wasn't working was because it's a magic missile, Gelt has 90% resistance to those when he gets his items
Edit: Also why he was very resistant to Hexwraiths, he can get loads of magic resistance
Not that it's a great spell to begin with. 90% resistance against a mediocre spell keeps him very safe
Yeah, I tried killing him with a fireball once when he tried to run away
Even overcharged it did next to no damage and he only had like 300 health remaining in the first place, had to let him run
@@saltefan5925 Idk, I did around 1000 damage with a single overcast on Repanse with Vlad this one time. I would say it is one of the better magic missile spells, which doesn´t say that much tbf, but it really isn´t too bad. Gelt was just too small, too fast, and too resistant.
@@Riwillion yea hope he sees these comments
I used this stack myself i can assure that sieges are not problem. Kemmler just WoD everything thats not on the wall and just push with the wraiths through any gate and vanhel your way past units. Terrorgheist would be the prefered siege attacker, especially for sniping flying lords. I think Thoreks trait would buff them a lil more. Very strong army imo
Whats thoreks trait?
I reckon 2 vampires instead of wight kings would also be better since the wight kings don't really add anything to the army. 2 vampires and a terrorgheist would melt gelt so long as you're not being shot at.
@@Your_Paramour you're talking business
Pity he didn't get a terrorgheist as siege attacker. Would've been something to send after Gelt.
Yea, that would have made a huge different.
Having a flying siege attacker unit can be a huge liability
@@swarlsonegger5021 true, but this army specifically benefits from having a flying siege attacker. Dealing with casters is very important for a Hexwraith stack.
He had a vampire. He could have just drained him.
@@dalemoses2443 No he didn't, he had two necromancers.
This army definitely needs to have the wight kings replaced with a couple of flying vampires. Lore of death would help with hero sniping and shadows could help with getting terror routs
Underrated Spell in my Opinion. Its fairly Cheap and Overcasting it on a Blobfight can even make your Skeletons win a lot of melee fights with a Necromancer near.
i would say remove one wight king and one hexwraith group or maybe two hexwraiths, instead and put in a shadow and a death lore vampire both on flying hellsteeds.
I am sure Wight Kings had some juicy items on them like Helm of Discord and supposed to stick with the pack
Wouldn't be quite a thematic for good ole Heinrich, though
Does anybody know the logic of why the Wight Kings are in there?
38:55 mins with no quickly/swiftly.
You have some "at once" at 3:28 though.
The restriction of "no winds of death" does make the magic usage a lot more varied. Kemmler was getting caught so vanhels dance macabre was used to give him a speed boost. Wouldn't have used that magic for that even if you had extra magic if wind of death was on the table.
@Jordan Winders I don't generally play MP but the lore of nehekara is super underrated, for exactly that reason. Super buffing Bone Giants and ustabi into anti cav missile launchers yes please 😳
The absolute selfcontrol on this lad. Wind of death was practically screaming in his ears
Its very strange that undead horsemen dont have a perfect vigor )
GHOSTLY undead horsemen in particular. They don't even have muscles.
@legendoftotalwar Also searing doom is a bombardment magic. Bombardment magics can knock units down, and when a cavalary unit is knocked down it is dead.
For example, phoenix bombardment skill will not damage infantary too high , but kill most cavalary entities in 1 shot for that reason.
Legend uses the Hexwraiths at 11:07
Mess with Belthazar Gelt you get the Belthazar belt. Mess with Boris Toddy you get the Boris shotty.
Sneaking legends pfp into the unit card gave me a chuckle.
I miss your streams, but i hope that you get a good rest
maybe you should find something else to do, like play total warhammer
you know instead of guilt tripping content creators
@@manifoldexultant7331 it wasn't my intention to make him feel guilty
@@tor9719 It didn't seem like you were trying to guilt trip, to me at least
@@manifoldexultant7331 bro stop being such a crass asshole not everyone who is here has the game or has the time to play it. Not to mention his streams have its own entertainment value. Why are you here to put other people down?
@@manifoldexultant7331 great advice from the virgin keyboard warrior..
god bless we have people like u who spot online harassment like chris hansen spots pedos
Doomstack until magic artillary
Still, with 33% resist and some zombie summons….
Casket doomstack is so painful to build man. 5k gold a pop and 20ish turns cool down is a bit of a slog
Or wood elf/ sisters of avelorn magic missile damage, i could see that wrecking these guys.
Love seeing modded stuff like this, spices things up~
I usually mix in a Mortis engine, cairn wraiths and disciplined Necromancers on corpse carts 👍🏻 build landmarks in galbaraz, Nagashizzar and Black Pyramid for resistances
where is galbaraz, never heard of that one before
@@hunterkarasaw It is the major greenskin settlement north of khemri. I think it provides magic resistance for ghosts, skellies and grave guard
But dont the Necromancers have like 30 speed?
@@noided9381 Yeah the corpse carts have awful speed, they'd get caught and die super quick
Yeah I think this army was technically stronger but I normally go that route to for cost efficiency.
Oooh nice this comes right before I was going to start a vampire campaign based on ethereal units!
Glad you did a modded game this time, always good to shake things up
Yaaaaay, the hexwraith doomstack. Thank you :)
This was actually really good to see, hell you make the game so easy you should just play with this mod to get more diverse conflicts, and not be in such a hurry to farm traits like isabella's, and then imrik doesn't die on turn 5 permanently. It definitely favors the player, but at least you get to fight legendary lords that get wiped out on contact for the rest of the game until the faction type is completely destroyed. Was fun to see you have to fight something that was less predictable
By replacing the wight kings with vampires on hellsteeds you'd be able to take care of Gelt and most other flying wizards so the ghosts can do their work. Plus as a bonus you get more arcane conduits.
Ethereal units get stuck in melee? CA please. Only thing worse than that is Cairn Wraiths climbing ladders in sieges.
I didn’t even really think about that until you mentioned it. And now I’m like genuinely offended at this bullshit lol. I mean I know it’d be totally broken cheese and the AI would lose their damn minds but how cool would a cavalry charge bursting through the walls be?
@@johnvalliant261 Exactly! Or even at the troops atop the walls as if they were charging uphill. Even if it's an ability with a cooldown, I don't care, I just want this embarrassment to end.
Nice to see the more difficult videos. I'd like to see more trying to face the challenge than cheese it.
It would be interesting to see your skills being exercised, I already know you're a cheese god.
I like to take just 3 hexwraiths, give them each a lichbone pendant for extra magic resistance. Then stuff some disciplined necromancers in to eventually be magic generators and have kemmler riding around dropping zombies to mess with army movement, buffing with can hels dance macabre, and debuffing with curse of years. Can manage against most AI armies with just Kemmler and those 3 hexwraiths, with the hexwraiths easily picking up 500+ kills each, even against more elite infantry and cavalry. The rest of the army is chaff to slow down enemy movement in cases where I am fighting multiple armies. And I am playing on legendary when I do this.
Using a Terrorgheist for siegeattacker would have helped a lot against gelt in this battle.
Gelt may have made this more challenging, as did not wind of death spamming. But the way I see it, you knkw it is a ddomstack when you can go up against tough odds like that and play suboptimally and still win. Their weaponstrength plus bonus vs infantry means they do so much damage.
Edit: doesn't one of the beastman lords, like the shadowgave (i do not remember how to spell it) give magic resist to the lord's army? It wouldn't be much, but every little bit helps.
Hi Legend great video once again. Was just going to say that if you continue doing the legendry lord power comparisons could you do the empire next please, I know they only have 4 lords but there are so many mechanics and unique traits with each lord that it would be nice for a power comparison by the legend himself.
I’d be keen if you could include any of the confederateable empire lords, e.g. I think toddy has a unique skill or 2? Don’t know if any others do
Wait can that dwarf hero get a horse in vanilla?
After 1000 videos i finally saw legend zoom to see the troops, i'm crying.
10:51 omg this massive sandwich opportunity and not taking it just hurts my soul, gelt at one hp or not you gotta have some fun as well man.
I know. I was waiting for it myself. I think part of testing these anyways is seeing how ballsy you can be and what they can really do, rather than trying to always play perfectly.
Sometimes I do things not because it's 100% optimal, but because it's what I enjoy and want to see.
@@oenkrad9404 Exactly! I agree
been playing orion on the cav beta, havent had a single moment where a unit of cav is rendered useless because some models are stuck
though its still total warhammer so pathing is still trash and models charge into each other etc, but still, its one annoyance less.
Do you think this would benefit from a couple of vamps on hellsteeds instead of the wight kings
9:17 Skaven noises intensify
Isn't Azhag's trait 30% Magic Resistance or is it towards the lord and not the army?
Do you choose to not use magic based on the doomstack because you think some need magic and some don't, because I've heard you say alot that vampire counts not using magic is wasting their biggest strength
*Sees another metal mage icon, cursors over*
*Sees dwarf on a horse*
*pop-up states 'Jorek Grimm, Baltahasar Gelt'.*
'What the fuck' indeed.
Gelt in this battle is indication how dangerous should be AI LL generals in game
In my experience, morathi, teclis, the fey enchantress and manfred von karstein are actually at this level or higher. Any caster on a fast flying mount is scary, but these ll are just that bit more scary
@Chase Moore Morathi and teclis are also really good at using it.
"WTF!! Dwarf on a horse"
@LegendofTotalWar
Thorek Ironbrow defeat trait would definitely help
i suppose that's the only one
22:03 The best WTF in the history of ever! XD
Traits that could help : Gor Rok (+4 leadership) and Thorek Ironbrow (+3 AP).
Wolfheart?
@@GrasshopperKelly I think the missile resist is just for the lord.
welcome to lustria gentlemen
'Not a disaster campaign, don't need to send the save file back' : Literally every single doomstack rating video.
I assume it's for Legend's benefit because he makes so many videos he forgets whether hes making a disaster or doomstack mid recording? lol
Legend von Total Warstein
Question for Sisters of Twilight. Is it a handicap to add in Waywatchers? Currently my stack is the Sisters, Ariel, 8 waywatchers and 10 Hawk Riders.
I always go with the sisters, Ariel, 1 glade captain for movement range, 1 life mage, and the rest Hawk Riders. Melts everything.
I think the waywatchers being on the ground IS a liability
I think he would have been better served with a vampire hero on a flying mount.
I am sure Wight Kings have some items on them so probably was worth to have them together with the pack
Wraithing your doomstack !
22:00 "WTF!? Dwarf on a horse?" lmfao
It's a bug with Balthasar Gelt. His skill that gives him a Barded Warhorse currently gives one to every character in the entire faction. The AI can use that to give mounts to characters that shouldn't have them because it isn't limited by them not having a UI dropdown for a mount.
IMO Wind of Death is part of the Doomstack and should be "allowed", especially since this can't be done without Kemmler. Don't go full cheese only using it, but throwing in a couple on good blobs wouldn't ruin the "test".
Yeah I think it should be used in the test and have the army engage but not send the Lord out by himself and WOD The entire army solo because that's just boring to watch
22:00 "Dwarf on a horse!?" xD
Lots of comments saying a terrorgheist would kill ghelt but there were guns and archers they would be shooting it while it was fighting and ghelt is faster so he could run away.
OI M8, U HAVE A LOICENSE FOR THAT DOOMSTACK?
Great video
I have one technical question.
What is the command that highlights the whole enemy army that you use frequently. I can't for.the life of me find it, even going through and hitting all the keys.
Spacebar with the ui option to highlight units
Space bar
Thanks guys
looking forward for the VC unit roster rating
Halfway in kemmler's campaign i am up vs 3 full empire stacks with 1 army and my game always freezes to black screen in battle when i use a few spells at the same time....
Even lowered some settings but it still happens :s running a 5800x cpu and 3080 gpu at 1440p 80fps, does anyone know why this keeps freezing in battle ? Tried google but wasn't able to find any usefull information... I use SFO mod so maybe thats the culprit ? Hope i find some help here :)
Watching the Empire bunched up like that and legend not using wind of death is physically painful... I mean like come on just one little wind of death...
The only valid mount for a Dwarf is 4 other Dwarfs carrying a giant throne.
Pretty sure Dwarves used Ponies in "The Hobbit". Don't think GW have issued WH Horse or Pony mounted figures, have seen Goat Cavalry but pretty certain they ain't in the Lore.
Yeah, the goat cav is a LoTR model. Warhammer lore dwarves refuse to ride animals and even hate beasts of burden from what I can tell. It's why none of the dwarf lords have mounts that aren't just "carried by more dwarves".
in the hobbit, I'm not sure if the dwarves rode the ponies or just used them as beast of burden
Doesn't Ironbrow provide an extra 3 armour piercing damage to all army units?
10/10 just because it lets vampire counts do something other than stand in a blob of skeletons.
HEY! Vampire Counts can do more than that! They can also stand in a blob of Vampires and drop magic on their heads.
Aren’t you guys forgetting the third option? They can also lose! 😂
thorek could help it with extra ap wep dmg but no resist ones that i could think of
I love this one!
Ikit Claw and Cylostra triat would be good trait for any magic user.
Who is stronger gandalf or the yellow power ranger
"We must secure the existence of our hexwraiths and a future for vampire children." - Heinrich Kemmler
based
Despite making up only 13% of the roster, chaff make up over 50% of vampire armies
The recruit defeated Lord's mod is pretty much the only mod that I use in every game.
What made you decide to take Recruit Defeated LL doomstacks? Because you have to have the mod enabled unlike 99% of the other quality of life mods and was the reason you rejected the doomstack I sent in.
i think since hes not live stream for the meantime he has a little more time to mess around with mods to make his standard content i guess
He did a stream with that mod a little while back so maybe he’s got a little more of a soft spot for it these days. Can’t remember if it was the Belegar or ikit claw one.
I don’t think he needs to download the mod to use the save, and it’s just one mod he has said he won’t download a bunch but maybe just one is ok.
@@MrConanman Recruit Defeated LL is not save game compatible, the mod has to be enabled once you've used it or it will crash the game. One button respec for example is save game compatible, you can have the mod and send a file to legend and he doesn't have to turn it on. See that white dot in the corner? He is using a mod.
"he's regenerating faster than they can dish out damage" He's literally at regen cap lmfao
Finally a doomstack to surpass Malus Darkblade
Just need one vampire with dead magic on flying
Metal-wizzard-Dwarf on a Horse......wait what?
Legend: Not going to use magic in this battle.
First thing he does use magic to take out balthasar gelt :p
is that a new hero class in the thumbnail
you could just confed kemmler after defeating him to get the extra magic resist, if he doesnt just die as usual
I believe they ARE trying to address the mass issue in the Cavalry Beta
I hope you're right because from what I've seen they're increasing the knockdown duration to 'help' with units getting stuck after a charge but that does nothing for any other situation.
Legend of killing Gelt.
Please do more tierlists!
FLC tierlist would be awesome
Legend said tierlists on Friday or Saturday.
Fridays
@@dmitriyk.2890 1) i am doing that comment under every video for the algorithm
2) there's absolutely no reason not to do tierlists more frequently.
I would love the items/heroes/followers/buildings tierlists aswell
Don’t fight wood elves with this kind of army… I tried… and the trauma still haunts me to this day.
If you think cavalry gets stuck a lot, why don't you give a try to a von carstein bloodline lord, crapstack with bats only. great at reinforcing another skelly spear crapstack, but if you tell a bat to land, you commit them for life, either the unit they are attacking breaks or they get stuck no matter how many times you ask for them to retreat and start crumbling. You can make it work thanks to vampire magic, but the relentlesness of some units who get stuck in and refuse to retreat is a pain to watch.
It'd be nice if they reworked krell into a legendary hero
So this the ghost army of lord of the rings right?
21:30 Gelt dies
Wurrzag would be worst case would really cause damage.
I've been using the beta and cav does feel somewhat worthwhile in comparison, especially light cheap cav.
I have heard the mass issue is somewhat addressed. Is that true?
EDIT: IE cavalry getting stuck
@@DrFeltcher I cant say for sure, I've been waiting for legend to test it but in my own testing it just "feels" better
@@manifoldexultant7331 ok thanks, I'll check the beta out then
Late game, when you are at your cap for Heroes and have money to burn I might try this!
Is there a hard cap for heroes? AFAIK, VC have an unlimited supply of Vampires because of the blue line lord skill. This comes with the added bonus of the Lahmian Bloodline which makes Vampires only cost about 150, significantly less than regular units (I don't know how but they're also free to recruit after a certain point, at least they have been in my last two Isabella campaigns).
@@sokar_rostau Yeah, there is a Hard cap on Hero recruitment for every type of Hero for every faction. Currently its 100, so the most Vampires you can recruit is 100. After that the only way you'll get more is by Confederating. 100 sounds like a lot and it is, however its possible to hit that in a full map completion campaign, and Hero numbers are limited by what unlocks them so might not be at max. Don't get me wrong VC do get to recruit a lot of Vampires very quickly and chances are in a normal Campaign you might not hit 100.
when there is gonna be next stream? also thanks for all the videos, they have helped me quite a lot in winning battles
A DWARF ON A HORSE?
88% Physical Resistence- Heil Kemmler! xD
Every time I hear Heinrich, I swear to God the voice actor has to be Hitl-... I mean Bruno Ganz...
Bbbbbutt legend, gaze of nagash are really not bad spell! It can deal a lot of damage from the distant to most of the lords - especially versus large and wide targets without lots of magic resistance.
And, in multiplayer goddamn 3 or 4 not overcasted gazes foking kill enemy/your lord. Just 1 minute - and say goodbye to your lord, just uselessly foking goodbye (unless u heal or lord or try to avoid spell like crazy, wasting battle time). It have real damage, fast animation and fast missiles. Overpowered thing in MP imho
I think the Dwarf upset you more than Gelt.
Legend keeps saying things like I'm not going to make best use of all the units in the stack so I can better judge it's effectiveness and I keep thinking that not making best use of all the units in the stack rather than only using what is being spammed means you don't have a bleeping clue how good it is when you do that. My two cents.
The doom don't need a stack, it needs stacks, VC skelly spam is still the best!
I love potatos
Thorek's trait would have been good
Bretonian traits would matter i guess.