Backpack Sprayer Comparison - Petra HD 4000 Sprayer Alternatives
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- If you need help choosing a backpack sprayer, this video is for you. We cover the pros and cons of the Chapin 24 vs the Flowzone Typhoon 2 backpack sprayers. We discuss construction, battery life, usage pros and cons, comfort when using the backpack sprayer and finally price vs. value.
You'll learn about sprayer tip options, pressure differences so you can decide on a backpack sprayer that's best for your needs. Both the Flowzone Typhoon 2 and Chapin 24 are excellent products that have performed well on my golf course lawn. Regardless of which one you choose based on the comparison, you'll be able to get a great result.
Both sprayers compared are great alternatives so the Petra HD 4000 sprayer and the field king professional 190328 backpack sprayer
We share tips to help you get the most out of your backpack sprayer.
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--- Video Contents --
0:00 Introduction
0:40 Construction and Sprayer Tips
2:41 Battery Runtime
3:20 Battery Mounting and Compartments
4:35 Pressure Differences
6:00 Usage Pros and Cons
8:33 Comfort
9:54 Pricing and Value
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I watched the video up to about 4 minutes, No more explanation needed for me! I'm going with Flow Zone. Many thanks for ALL of your videos Ron!
Glad it was helpful
Flowzone hands down. You couldn’t give me another Chapin!
I hear you Alpha. The Chapin tends to be pretty polarizing. Love or Hate affair.
Great job Ron…explaining the differences between the two.
ANOTHER GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO!!!💯💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Glad you enjoyed it Wize Guy. Thanks for watching.
Ron this vid is very helpful for me at the moment , my manual pump 4 gallon piston sprayer is basically shot and I have been meaning to get into the battery sprayers to give them a try anyway. Thanks for all the great info.
Thanks for watching Andrew
Ron, a big thumbs up to this video. I bought the flowzone cyclone 2.5 at Siteone in my area today. I got it for $219. I used it to put down some sedgehammer to combat the infestation of nutsedge in an area of my lawn. I had fun with the cyclone 2.5, it's absolutely easy to use. I watched your video yesterday and decided to invest in the flowzone. I think it's a good choice. 👍
Awesome Rayon. I'm sure it'll serve you well. Great choice.
I have a flow zone. Seems to be the right choice so far. Love it.
I like mine Clayton.
Excellent comparison video! Thanks Ron
Anytime Kevin!
Petra HD 4000 Sprayer Alternatives... someone has their SEO game on point ;) . Thanks for the review, I have a FlowZone on the way for the Golf Course Lawn Academy, can't wait!
I appreciate it SkinnyGeek1010. Trying to improve the reach of the video. :-) Thanks for joining the Academy. 🙏😎
Very well put together as usual 👍
Thanks LG. Appreciate you watching.
Great info Ron.. i have the ryobi 4 gal sprayer it gets the job done. I'll be looking for another one for my herbicides later this year. Typhoon looking good for me 👍
If the Ryobi is doing the trick Darrell, I'd say stick with it. Thanks for chiming in.
Being I have used both Commercially. We ended up purchasing 30 of the Flowzones. So is it worth the extra cost? Absolutely. After heavy use. There's no comparison. With that said a home owner using once in a while. Chapin will get it done. Another great video Ron!!
Thanks so much for chiming in Justin. Always great to hear from someone that really beats on this equipment. Totally agree that a Chapin will work great for most people. The thing I love most about the Flowzone is how quickly I can spray my lawn. It's an awesome bit of kit. Appreciate you watching sir.
Unless you are a homeowner that wants to get into spraying Humic products. In that case the Flowzone is the much better option. The Humics won’t travel trough just any sprayer. Beware
Great comparison Ron. Well done man. 👊🏼
Glad you liked it Pacific Northwest Lawns. Appreciate you watching!
Excellent analysis and presentation - thanks.
Much appreciated B V. Thanks for watching!
Wow Great Video Ron!!! very entrataining and informative !!!
Thanks Leo. It’s one I’ve needed to make for a while. Appreciate you watching.
That was VERY helpful thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent comparison with so much great information Ron. A lot to consider being I am definitely in the market for an upgrade in the very near future. Been leaning towards the Typhoon 2 for a bit, having heard a lot of great stuff about it and though less important I really like the look / appearance of the product as well. Just deciding if it is worth the added expense compared to alternatives. Either way looking forward to getting something new and putting the not so great experience I have had with the Sprayers-Plus battery sprayer behind me. Great vid as usual.
Thanks for watching Alex. I would agree that Flowzone is a good looking sprayer. Other people in the comments seem to be liking the Ryobi too. I don't have any experience with that one though. Thanks for the support.
@@RonHenry interesting , I have not had the best experience with their other tools (Ryobi) that I have used in the past , everyone has their own experiences but their products tend not to last very long for me. Especially their batteries (Ryobi), for me anyway their batteries do not last particularly long and I find myself often having to replace the batteries altogether ; which ends up being rather costly. Cheaper up front often comes with less of a lifespan and more long term expenses , like frequent battery replacements. I would personally be wary of investing in a Ryobi sprayer just based on my past experiences with their products but hopefully they work out well for people who buy them.
great video as always ron. i have the 105EX, it does a great job also. i feel it is by far best to spray treat a yard as opposed to spreading granules.
Very nice Turner. I agree that a sprayer gives you a lot more options for lawn product application. Thanks for chiming in.
I just ordered flowzone cyclones 3 .I'm so excited because it'll be my first electric sprayer.
Nice. Congrats. 😎
@@RonHenry Thanks
Great comparison video. I purchased a Ryobi at the beginning of the season so I can’t justify upgrading at this time. However, next Spring….
Ehh if the Ryobi is doing what you need it to, I wouldn't change Papa Mows Low. A tool that you can use effectively is better than a "better" tool.
Finally big bro!! Great work! Keep it up
It took me long enough right Jeremy?
@@RonHenry it was right on time. The funny thing about it to. Is that you can’t find this model anywhere and the new one is priced ridiculously high. So glad I got mine a year ago.
Yep. I think the 2 has been replaced with the 2.5. It’s also out of stock most of the time.
Great video, Ron.
Thanks!
Very nice comparison. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful Keith. Appreciate you watching.
Great video Ron
Thanks Tony. Appreciate it.
Love the way that Flowzone sprays out. This is my first year spraying, and I have a greenwood sprayer that puts out 12psi. Smh.
It definitely puts the product out quickly 818. Great tool when you’re trying to spray quickly.
Ive got the My4Sons 4 gallon...things a beast. No clogging issues at all.
Nice Ned G. I've been hearing more and more about that brand.
Great info. I’ve got the My4 Sons 4 gallon as well. What do recommend for cleaning out the sprayer between pesticides and herbicides?
I just rinse the tank twice and then run the fresh water through the entire system for 30 seconds.
@@RonHenry I have both the My4Sons M4 and the FlowZone Typhoon 2.5. I like everything about the FlowZone better. The My4Sons is fairly cheaply made with generic parts. The pump isn’t nearly as strong and versatile. I built a “DFW Wand” from the lawn forum to use with it vs the pressure washer style gun.
Thanks and good comparison Ron! Hopefully we can find a better or different analogy in the DIY lawncare community than "built like a tank" as I don't think that Flowzone Typhoon II is built like your Greensmaster 1600 (lol). Now, that's a tank!
Compared to the Chapin, it definitely earns the "built like a tank" badge. At least as far as backpack sprayers go. 😎
Hey Ron , really great informative vid as always on here. Being relatively new to the channel I am just curious is lawn care just a strong passion of yours that you enjoy doing and sharing with others ? or do you also do this professionally for a golf course or something? I am curious because your knowledge and expertise in this subject is extremely impressive. Keep up the great work.
Heya Manchester Scholes. I don't work professionally in the turfgrass industry. I've done a lot of personal research and have friends in industry that I speak with regularly. Appreciate you watching.
My4Sons best backpack sprayer I ever bought and I’ve had 6 or 7 of them
You can also use a hand drill battery which is convenient
Glad you found one that works well for you.
Flowzone seems similar to my Strom which i love for sure!
I think they're similar Next Level. Thanks for watching.
What are your thoughts on the Petra 4000? Seems like many of the "pros" of the FZ, but just a tad over $200??? Would love to hear your thoughts. Great video! Your presentation skills are superb.
I'm a fan of the FZ or this over the Petra: golfcourselawn.store/products/yard-mastery-4-gallon-backpack-sprayer This is the sprayer I use.
I like the Maruyama ls40li, it is very comfortable because it bends with you as you lean and it cleans out with a front opening.
Haven't heard of that one Wayne. I'll have to look into it.
@@RonHenry They are Japanese made, headquartered out of Texas in north America, private labeled to Makita and Dramm.
@@wayneessar7489 gotcha. I’ll have to see if I can find locally.
I have the Petra and like it
Nice
I have both sprayers as well. I am on my third Chapin Battery. I credit Chapin for sending me one free replacement. The Flowzone pump broke in my first year. I called, they sent me a free replacement-....credit flowzone!
Nice newton. Sounds like both companies stand behind their products.
Putting four dots of RTV on the lid of the flow zone then seating the rubber gasket should solve the rubber gasket falling out issue
Great tip!
Excellent helpful review. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
In April of 2018 I got the Chapin 63985. In late 2019 and again in early 2020 I was having issues with the power and the pump. There was a leak around the pump on the bottom causing bad contact. There would be green corrosion on the contacts that I would clean off but it would work seldom. I have not had a chance to use it this year. But it's a good pump when it works. I like the big opening and the red tip. The back straps did not bother me because I was only treating 2,000sqft.
Thanks for chiming in Tess and David. I've not had issues with my Chapin but given that I've had a number of people complain about it, I figured why not share that negative aspect. Appreciate you watching.
Ron thanks for all the great info, really appreciate!!! I've never used a sprayer always granular just trying to see if worth it pro's vs cons(think would make a good video if not done already) I have about 15k sf corner lot so would I be refilling sprayer a few times just for one fertilizer application. Thks
Hi J Brown. For another sprayer comparison, check out this video: czcams.com/video/guAnFTwqLe4/video.html A backpack sprayer is absolutely worth it in my opinion. Gives you plenty of flexibility around product applications which can be a bit timesaver.
Another wonderful video Ron.
I'm deciding whether I should buy the Chapin (pictured in your video) or the Flowzone Cyclone. I've done a lot of research on several backpack battery sprayers and have narrowed it down to these two. My plan is to use this mainly for spraying weed control products. It would be used only occasionally. Can you offer any advice on ease of use of these products, that may make a difference in which one I select. Thank you
Either one would work well Marlene. The Chapin has served me really well. For occasional use, you can't go wrong.
Thank you Ron
Great video!!! Can you do a video about Teejet spray tips?
I’ll work on it Sam
Hey Ron. Flow Zone has a 110 degree fan that works much better for me compared to the 25 degree for spraying large areas.
I’ll have to check it out Web. Thanks for chiming in.
I bought a Chaplin because I got it on sale for $25 in the fall.
Great price!
Ron, have you tried the spraymate tornado (newer version of the flowzone tornado). I've used the 2nd generation Ryobi 4gal sprayer and didn't like that one in how the pump kept stopping with the fluid in the tank get low. The spraymate is much better in my opinion.
I was wondering if that comfortstrap on your flowzone typhoon would fit the spraymate tornado. Thanks
VMH no i haven't. I tried the Cyclone last year and didn't like it. If the tanks are similar in design, the straps should work.
i wanted to snag one of those flowzones but they were out of stock at the time, darn covid lol
Yeah man. Flowzone is a victim of their own success. Super hard to find Typhoons these days.
One big reason was Pest Control companies was buying them up and modifying the wands and tip to use for disinfecting services.
That makes sense Justin.
We was one of them. Lol. We signed a national contract witt Amazon and was doing them daily. Keep a eye out it possible a ton of used ones might be getting ready to hit the market now that is over with.
@@justink87371 Is it really over though Justin? Give them time. :-)
I’ve used both of these units, however the ryobi 4 gallon battery sprayer at home depot is by far the best value for a backpack sprayer.
I’ve never used the Ryobi Lawn Therapy. What kind of flow rates does it support?
@@RonHenry it’s fixed at 60 psi, but flow rates change based on the different nozzle tips you use. the tips i have range from .17 gal/min up to .91 gal/min. i usually use the .49 gal/min nozzle tip.
i changed out the plastic spray wand to a stainless steel one and it’s basically a typhoon 2 with a wider input opening 😂
I was wondering if the angled nozzle of the Chaplin made it easier to apply product than the straight shaft on the Flowzone.
Mmmm not really. You just tend to hold the Chapin wand more parallel to the ground vs the Flowzone tip.
Hey everyone, a few dots of chemical resistant rtv from the auto parts.or big box store should keep that.gasket secure. Just in a couple of places to keep it removable for replacement 👍
Great tip Jason. Appreciate you chiming in.
Im binging your videos. Ide like to see how the volume of spray changes over battery voltage being deminished. To me if it last 3 hours, but at 2 hours your running like 1 gallon per every two minutes vs like at full charged its going 1.5 gallons per minutes. That makes a huge difference as to not doing any stripping
For home owners and even smaller spray businesses it does really well. The bigger Barrett offers tons of runtime. I’ve never noticed a grip off on my lawn. That’s typically only 6 tankfuls depending on what products I’m applying.
Hey Ron! I JUST discovered your channel and I am SO inspired by the videos that I have watched so far! SUCH great content and information!!
I live in Indiana (SUPER clay soil!!) and honestly have a pretty tiny yard. I have taken a look at a some of the products that you have displayed and recommended. A number of the products that you use from Mirimichi Green are sold in batches that are large enough to cover 16,000 square feet!! My yard is at best between 2000-3000 square feet. I'm completely open to purchasing enough of these products for multiple applications... but 16,000 square feet... that would take me DECADES to use up that much product!! LOL!!
Is there a way to purchase these products in smaller batches for smaller yards? It's just... spending over $1000 on these products for a tiny yard... that's pretty cost prohibitive.
One last question: Anything you'd recommend for hardcore Indiana clay soil? Again... COMPLETELY inspired by your videos and just subscribed to your channel!
Thanks in advance!
Hi Equip2Survive. You can get the Mirimichi products in a kit that saves a bit of money. Because you'll be using them monthly, you'll go through a 16k coverage bottle in a growing season easily. Can see the kit here: golfcourselawn.store/products/golf-course-lawn-carbon-kit
For compacted soil, I'd recommend core aeration.
What PSI do you keep your flowzone on when applying tnex and fert with a Teejet nozzle?
I use the low pressure setting.
I suggest using a paint mixing tool they are thinner in diameter and I believe they work better for suspending material.
It’s a good idea Romero. I could also mix the product separately in a bucket like SMK was suggesting.
What's your current go-to sprayer for blanket applications?
This one: golfcourselawn.store/products/yard-mastery-4-gallon-backpack-sprayer?ToPasteboard
That flow zone should develop a lid like a pop bottle! All in one or where the the o ring pops into that lip!
That's a good idea Lucas. The biggest issue is the o ring popping out. Granted mine has been well-used
I have both. I got a Flowzone Typhoon 2.5 from a pesticide supply store in my area. I was excited to get the Flowzone but I am very disappointed now that I have used it for a few months. The number one problem is that there are 5 settings on the newer Typhoon but the company does not tell you what the psi is for each setting and even at the lowest setting it just puts out solution too fast. I literally cannot walk as fast as I need to. My lawn is L shaped and it just becomes too awkward to walk with over 30 lbs on my back at almost a light jog. As a result I end up having to reload the sprayer and finish up my lawn and that is a pain especially when it is 100 degrees and above.
I hear you there Jerry. Running it at the Flowzone at 115psi is challenging for most people. You have to walk a lot faster than people realize. Most are better off running the sprayer at the 70psi rate. The new 2.5 supposedly has markings for the various psi levels so you can actually know what pressure you're spraying at. Maybe try making a mark on the dial at a lower flow rate and see if that works for covering your lawn with a single tank. From what I remember your lawn is 4k square feet right?
I only use it at the lowest setting which is number 1. I have 4500 sq ft.
Buy some yellow teejet tips. Much better tips anyways.
@@JayCub85 how are they better? What is arc of spray for a yellow tip?
@@JBSpine007 just remember for insecticide applications you want light fan spray tips. For herbicide applications you want larger droplet fan spray tips. Both will alter the flow rate.
Ron mix your herbicide and carriers with the drill in a home depot bucket then pour it into the flowzone with a funnel or if you are steady you wont need a funnel at all.
Great idea SMK. Do you use a designated bucket for this purpose?
@@RonHenry Yes I have one bucket for all my liquid ferts only. Then another bucket for herbicides, fungicides and insecticides that are safe on Bermuda. Anything that is not safe on Bermuda is mixed as needed in 1gal pump sprayer. No mixer is needed for this because the volume is so small that simply shaking the pump sprayer is enough.
Man I thought I was the only one having issues with the flowzone lid gasket lol
Nope! Not just you. 😎
Great video, on the flowzone, do they make one that's 8-120psi that has more of a control setting? Thanks
Hi Eric. Yes. I believe their newest unit has those settings. 8 - 115 psi
@@RonHenry It really makes it hard to choose which one I want lol, I'm looking into the one that's giving me the most efficiency putting the right amount down in the least amount of time at a reasonable price lol.
@@ericstinnett9182 Either will work well but probably the best option is the one recently released. It includes TeeJet spray tips for better product application. ron-henry.com/backpacksprayer
@@RonHenry Is that the flowzone that comes with Teejet spray tip or the Ryobi? Have you made a video on comparing the two flow zones side by side? Thanks
@@ericstinnett9182 It is the Flowzone type that comes with the TeeJet tips yes. It's not the Ryobi unit. It's pricier but a very good sprayer.
What about the empty weight of each......very critical.
So 1 minute 31 seconds to output 1 gallon? YardMastery advertises 1 gallon per minute.
Why isn’t the gpm advertised on most of the backpack sprayers ?
It varies depending on the spray to you’re using.
The design flaw on the Chapin you pointed our is 150% correct. The Chapin is a "never again" purchase! The leaks destroyed the wiring connections....located directly under the water!!! Brilliant design, Chapin!!! (NOT!) 🙂
Well said!
Where can the Flow Zone be purchased?
Should be able to find it online PJ but I would get the Yard Mastery sprayer instead. Similar price and comes with an assortment of spray tips saving you time and money. golfcourselawn.store/products/yard-mastery-4-gallon-backpack-sprayer
There needs to be a sprayer like these that has an agitator spray going into the tank to keep the mix suspended.
They do exist Lemony. Just not in backpack sprayers. That's more of a professional sprayer market thing.
Stay away from chapin i’m on my third one and two years they just don’t hold up I just came into Google and find out if anybody has a better alternative I don’t have a big place I am just livid right now it’s a bad design and now I got $30 worth of product in a sprayer that doesn’t spray
That stinks. Good thing is there are several great options these days. Hopefully you’ve got a better one now.
@@RonHenry I tore the thing apart one of the connecters going into the motor was broken off it’s a stationary motor nothing moved on the outside of it it makes no sense at all I soldered it put a piece of gorilla duct tape on it just cause it made me feel better and it’s working but it’s very frustrating plus you get chemical all over yourself there’s no way around it. I will definitely try something different next time.
How much
golfcourselawn.store/products/yard-mastery-4-gallon-backpack-sprayer
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Which sprayer are you using?
I’m using the Scott’s 2 gallon with a fan tip mod 🤪🤘🏼
I purchased the Chapin 20v from Walmart for $96 a couple years ago
Very nice lawn 2 learn
Just great we have all this equipment to spread out these cancer causing chemicals all over the place. Otherwise, great video. I wish I could find something that doesn't have any plastic.
Thanks for watching!