Evolution Racewerks F30 N55 Charge pipe Installation (2013 BMW 335i xDrive)
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If there’s one thing I’m happy about with my BMW purchase, it’s that there’s such a strong community for it like channels such as this. Thanks Kies!
So I might as well upgrade intercooler when doing this. Lol
Exactly my thoughts. Saves faffing with the intercooler
might as well go stage 2 while you are at that lol
Hey Brian, I did this job over the weekend, and found out that if you remove the charge pipe from the top its much easier than from the bottom, all you do is twist it, and follow the curvature of the pipe, you don't have to unfasten the cooling line, you don't have to fight it, plus if you look at it, the top where it hooks up to the throttle body is wider than the bottom where it hooks up to the intercooler, only a suggestion that's all, hopefully it'll help someone else.
I tried lifting it out of the top but it gets stuck on something at the bottom
@@IIlVipeRlII its clearly possible, otherwise Andy and others below wouldn't have been able to do it.
So you didn’t disconnect the boost pipe or take the intercool out? you just disconnected it from the intercool and pulled it out from the top?
@@mattlemieux937 Yup.
HUGE TIP FOR ANYONE WHO INSTALLS THIS - that black piece that holds the clip in at the bottom of the charge pipe doesn't need to be pried off. The whole thing is actually a quick release clip. From the front of the pipe (black piece on the back side) just stick two flathead screwdrivers in the left+right front part, and twist them to expand the metal c clip open. Once you twist a side far enough, it locks in to place. Do this on both sides and the clip stays open and unlocked and the pipe slides right out. push in on it and the clips snap back in to place.
this should take one of the worst parts of the install and make it substantially easier
Yo bro, im about to do this next weekend. Can you elaborate a little more? Once you twist those open and locked in place, there is still the issue of the middle part ( the U ) been inside locked inside, it doesn't just slide out. How do you take out that middle part? I read that you have to pull the piping towards the IC ( dunno why ) and use a screw driver to pry that U part out. Is that right?
Super helpful! Basically just pry the metal clip left and right until it stays open. Then push the charge pipe off the intercooler inlet. No need to snap the plastic retaining piece off.
Thanks for the tip! Just got it off!
thank you so much for posting this video. there's a big lack of F series N55 tutorials/installs
Sure thing! More coming..
Awesome instructional as always! Don’t know what I’d do without you. One thing, as another commenter mentioned, the connection to the intercooler from the charge pipe is a quick-release mechanism. If you pry out the metal clip on either side it stays disengaged and you can then push the hose off. Much easier than prying off the plastic piece. I too was able to get everything out the bottom without taking off the intercooler but I can definitely see it being a bit easier. Thanks again!
All you guys videos are probs the best out there. Really easy to follow! Thanks
Couldn’t have done it without your video! absolutely perfect, and got the job done.
Hey man just wanted to say thank you a bunch. Used this video to install my new intercooler and charge pipe. You rock
The best video on N55 charge pipe installation. Watched a few others and they were rubbish, this one was perfect. Did it myself today. Thanks!
Dude your tutorials are better than MANY other youtubers, keep up the good work!
Thanks, much appreciated 😀👍🏼
Bro!! Thank you so much for these videos!! I have the same exact BMW 335i X Drive as you and LOVE these videos since CZcams lacks them!! Keep them coming!!
Thanks for the video. I was able to figure out how to get it out without jack stands and without taking out the intercooler. It wasn't easy but I basically followed all these steps up to the point where you explained how to take out the intercooler. Once I got the black clip out (which was a pain, had to use pliers to pull down the tabs) I was able to push up on the charge pipe from the intercooler using a screwdriver. After a bunch of twisting and pulling, I was able to pull out the charge pipe from the top without breaking anything.
Awesome! We love hearing when people have an easier experience with this install because it is no easy task! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼
And how was installing the new charge pipe back on?
I avoided the belly pan/intercooler removal. I removed the air filter box, and disconnected the lower clip from up top. Then I easily removed the blown charge pipe by SAWING it in 2 pieces just ahead of the bellows. Just drill a few holes in the charge pipe and then use a SHARP steak knife to saw the pipe into 2 pieces. 5 minutes later....out comes the pipe from the top. Never had to even lay on the ground. DIVIDE AND CONQUER :-)
Great video, thanks. Respect to those who were able to remove the charge pipe through the top. I had to drop the intercooler but didn't need to loosen the coolant lines. Still, it was time consuming and difficult to free my broken charge pipe from the bottom. Waiting on parts for the replacement, but imagine a two piece charge pipe will be much easier to install and remove if needed in the future.
Hey Brian, i had a charge pipe failure few days ago, thanks for all your videos. That was a pain in the … to remove the old pipe out of there tried from the top and then from the bottom after removing the intercooler and all the road grime!!!!! Still was a pain but got it done. I struggled a bit with the assembly and lining up the collars so they don’t rub on anything. You need small hands to get it done🤦🏼♂️ not my case 🤪😂. Can not imagine installing a OEM pipe in there. Keeps up the good work 👍🏻💪🏻
Awesome video. Just ordered my ER chargepipe also.
Just replaced mine. I didn't need to pull the intercooler because I just pulled the old pipe out the top. It can definitely be done.
For the maf sensor, I just used a 1/4" ratchet with 1/4" socket and a torx bit in the socket. Worked like a charm. Also used a flathead screwdriver to take the clips off the intercooler.
same
X-Drive is a whole different animal
@@esteemedenergy how because I'm about to change mine
When I did my VRSF chargepipes on my n55 I don't recall there being that much oil present but then again every car is different I suppose ! Great video!
Yea I'm not sure why I had that much, I need to look into it more
Super helpful video - please consider using eye protection for the next video when underneath equipment
Thank you for this video! Is it important to upgrade the hotside chargepipe aswell on the N55 if going stage 2?
Thanks for making the video, it was good to visualize everything before I start. Could you list off all the tools you used in the process in your future videos? Maybe have it in the description below.
Amazing Job... Really Helpful i Just did the same job Over here in Dominican Republic and it came out perfect...
Ayee kiesss always with the best content! Im finally putting my ER downpipe and Jb4 today im so excited! Next is that chargepipe
Thanks, Alex! Nice, good luck! Let us know when you're ready for the chargepipe and we'd love to help!
@kiesmotorsports think im ready for that chargepipe now kies lol
We’re here to help! 😀
Great video man.
Thanks, Julius! I replied to your email
Do I need to remove the inter cooler in order to install a charge pipe? I have an N26, but I believe it is a similar install.I see you only removed the inte rcooler to wiggle the stock charge pipe out of the car, can I remove it from the top of the car? This way I'll save myself the hassle of removing the TIC pipe and inter cooler..
Great Video Mate
Thanks 👍🏼
Brian, nice vid on your install. You are lucky that you were able to find a piece like this that covered up some of the previous owners scraping. My only suggestion would have been to take the opportunity while working in the area and sand out some of the rough lower body scraped plastic and spray it with one of the black rough style trim paints. While most of it won't show, some still did plus YOU know its still there. Might have also been an opportunity to do a little spray touchup of the blue that will show since you have it clear of any other body pieces before you put the spoiler on. I'm sure that will get to you and you will fix it but it won't be as easy with the new spoiler on. Best of luck to you
Hi Jim, I'm probably going to have a shop touch some of it up when I get some other areas painted on the car. Good idea..
Nice job. Pain in the butt removing the stock pipe. Had to snake mine through the top because I didn't want to fool with Removing the intercooler. Looks like a tighter fit on the f30, I was working with an F25 and xDrive. Definitely need a lot of patience for this but worth it. Never return to stock with your charge pipe to save yourself the hassle from ever doing this again lol
Thanks. Yea, I tried to show some of the more difficult parts as well in the video and not make it look super easy. I was going to pull it out of the top, but I wanted to show people how to do it if they were following ER's directions. They say that xdrive is normally easier out the top though
Great job
Thanks!
Can you please name and possibly link the tools you used to release the clips for the tubing behind the intercooler as well as the thumb driver you used?
Great video as always. Thanks.
Getting ready to replace the intercooler and charge pipe is there a starter kit for these tools?
Hey Brian. What exactly do I need to do this. Pry tool, pick tool, flathead? What else?
Is a cai necessary when running catless dp, catback exhaust, chargepipes, and jb4?
Hey Brian thanks for the video..
I saw the stock charge pipe full of crappy oil, if you can install a catch can it will help preventing that oil from going back to the engine.
Sure thing! Yea that's on the list..
I Hope for that you will make an extra Video :)
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Kies motorsports should I get a whole new inter cooler if I’m getting a set of a charge and boost pipe?
Hey Brian can you help me whit the orientation of the o ring that goes in the intercooler side i can figure how side comes i need some help here
Thanks for going ahead and posting this. I'm gonna go ahead and do it. Go ahead and have a great day
Hello Bryan when are you going to do a video on upgrading the intercooler, that is next on my car. Also what brand do you recomend, i have chargepipe, catted afe downpipe and jb4, thanks.
+8997456 Yes we are! Just need a couple weeks. We recommend and sell Evolution Racewerks. It's massive and works amazing! Email me at info@kiesmotorsports.com and I can send you some info on it
Here's a kick ass tip.:
If you have some motor oil inside them charge pipes (engine blow-by oil) that means you have dirty valve carbon deposite inside ur intake manifold, them filthy valves must be super clean via a walnut blasting and issue will be fixed, no more oil leaking into the pipes and no need for an oil catch can. That would also fix that annoying shaking of the motor that u can feel inside when its idling!
Is this charge pipe not available anymore? The new ones seem to be split much further down. I like how the top section is shorter, so you can remove it from the top of the vehicle.
First off big thank you for all of your videos 🤙🏼 and second, do you need to tune it afterwards?
No tune is required for an upgraded charge pipe. All the upgrade is for is to strengthen the pipe with an aluminum part versus BMW’s plastic pipe which doesn’t hold much boost pressure before exploding like mine just did today on a stage 1 bootmod3 tune
Edit: so now I need to buy an aluminum charge pipe haha
Hi. Do you think this will fit on bmw x3 f25 n55 ? Thank you
hey the background music you are using is cool. you have links to them ?
does this work for a bmw 2013 active-hybrid n55?
Helping me out a lot with my installs, thank you. How long did it take you to complete the charge pipe installation?
I would like to know this as well. My pipe just blew off.
You did this the hard way. Remove the radiator fan, air box and the very front black plastic under tray connected to the front bar and the job will be 100% easier.
Brad Vuv I'm about to try this suggestion... I do not want to deal with the insanity of taking the other side off
You mean the black skid plate?
Holly wow, you did that the hard way.
Does is make sense to wrap the charge pipe with heat resistant tape?
I love how you remove the vacuum line so easy. For the life of me I can’t get this stupid thing off. What a pain in the ass.
How did you get the black plastic part put back on the bottom half of the chargepipe? I bought the same one but the bottom of mine doesn’t have space for those notches where the clamp goes
Same
What trim tools do you use?
Apologies if you showed this in a video before. How do you lift the car from the front to place the jack stands where the jackpoints are? I usually end up lifting it from the rear corner and the place the jackstand in the front corner on the same side but its very tedious compared to just lifting the car from the center haha. Also is there a rear jack point to do the same thing?
Thank you! I believe I tried checking for that front spot in my vehicle before but I had a black cover there like the rest of the under tray. Is it still safe to jack it up from that cover?
hey nice video!, does this work the same on a 2014 x3 n55 ?
Can You show how to change boost pipe too?
Hey man I just have a quick question about fitment between f30s, I have a 320i xdrive so it's an n20 and I wanted to know if most engine parts are comparable between the n20 and n26; like charge pipe, intercooler, and etc. Figured if someone knew it'd be you.
Hey Gregory, some parts will and some parts will not. Most things like intercoolers will, but intakes typically won't be the same. Same with Downpipes..
Nice job Bryan. Would you think about upgrade your intercooler
Thanks! I'm thinking it's happening lol. I like to do one product per video :)
Does the intercooler have to come off??
Next time you should try pull it from the top! I got it out in about 3min without removing the intercooler just push it up from the bottom once you pushed it past the hoses you see at about 4min in your video then it comes right out from the top! But mine is a f32 so idk the f32 might have a little more room in the engine bay
Why not pull it up? Is the plastic clip also required for the new pipe?
Do you recommend replace charge pipe if I am upgrading front mount intercooler or not???
You might as well do it if you are going to install a new front mount intercooler. The OEM charge pipe will fail, especially after a tune or after 90,000 miles of driving.
On my mates 2014 335i x-drive we took the charge pipe upwards. Was impossible from below..
The aftermarket charge pipe rubber pieces to connect it together don’t make sense to me mine look totally different and the other doesnt fit another side someone help please
My N55 makes a whistling noise after I turn the car off, and it is cooling down. What is this? Thanks! I thought you might know.
I'm wondering if the black finish has a little more give than the brushed finish for the charge pipe because mine just won't go on over the throttle body 😡
What brand is yours?
When reinstalling the metal clip on the ER charge pipe to the intercooler (intercooler to throttle body charge pipe that is) do you reuse the black retaining clip? It didn't seem like it goes back on and I'm not sure if you did/ didn't use it in your video.
No it’s not needed
Kies Motorsports okay thank god. That piece is a pain in the ass lol.
Lol that’s an understatement
Is this recommended more than vrsf?
Just bought this for the f32. I don't know how it just slides in there for you. I can't get it to line up at the top at all.. this has been more difficult than doing timing belts lol. ..
Looks like a total PITA, but thanks for showing the most detailed CP install video yet! Should have installed the FMIC down there at the same time ;)
Sure thing! I made sure not to cut out the more difficult parts on this... As for the FMIC.. Keep watching :)
Might as well replace all them plastic pipes to all aluminum piping since the smaller pipes that connect to the turbo and left side of the intercooler (boost pipe) are as important and vulnerable to over heating & cracking as the plastic charge pipe itself. Go full aluminum or dont go at all! A must also to upgrade that small cheap intercooler to a bigger all aluminum Intercooler along with a Go fast Bits BOV Diverter as well.
Brian I put in the chargepipe and it fits flawlessly except that the vacuum line is too large to fit into the chargepipe. I have no idea what to do, if you see this and have any advice let me know! Thanks!
What brand was the chargepipe?
Kies Motorsports ER, I ended up having to dremel off a millimeter of plastic from the vacuum line connector. It was just too large.
What about the black clip that came off the charge pipe to intercooler? Bought a vrsf charge pipe and don’t see a way of putting that black plastic piece back on it.
You dont need it
What does the charge pipe do ?
Is it necessary to take the intercooler completely off? If you loosen one side to get the charge pipe off, can't you just pull it through the top?
It's easiest if you do, but you may be able to do it without
It's difficult to do but I did it without removing the intercooler at all.
Hi, would it be the same technique to do that on a N20 or is it less/more work on it? Any difference at all?
Thanks
Hi, I believe the N20 is a little easier
Lucky Nguyen it’s easier to install.
Where can I get a charger pipe for my 335i gt 2014 model?
holy scrapes on the bottom of the front bumper!
Holy scrapes Batman!
Got a fair bit of oil in that old charge pipe I see. You need a catch can my man.
BMW F30 with N55 engines do not need oil catch cans.
@@raulmartinez3484 then why so much oil build up in the pipes then?
Nice tutorial. Did you not want to upgrade your intercooler?
Thanks! One install per video is what I like to do.. More mods coming :)
@ how many miles is recommended to replace the charge pipe????. I have 88k miles n my car. Any suggestions..
Go with the E. R aliminum chargepipe if you havnt already, holds boost way better and gives peace of mind, worth it highly recommend!
I installed this charge pipe and I’m getting a lot of leaking oil my stock charge pipe did not have round o rings they more had a lip on them and they did not fit the charge pipe flush where can I get some from
Your old one didn't have the o rings??
Are both of the O-rings the same size?
Can you do a video on turbo to intercooler pipe install
This please !!! Looks tough and could use some insight..
I would be scared to do any of this. Kudos to you my man.
Thanks!
Is there a way to disable speed governor for f30 328i?
HypNo TriX that sucks
Is a tune needed when ONLY replacing with the ER Chargepipe??
Did you ever find out?
DO NOT try to remove the charge pipe from the bottom. It’s absolutely insane to try to do so. Pull it out from the top as the flange that connects to the throttle body is much larger than the intercooler connection and is impossible to pull out from the bottom. Also, there is zero need to unfasten the coolant line brackets.
Watching your new videos vs your old 😂
2:55 I am having the hardest time getting this damn vacuum line off. I pinched and pinched and i think I ended up breaking the tab. Any tips?
It's not easy, especially if it's cold. Just keep working it and be careful
Kies Motorsports I ended up getting it a couple minutes later! Thank you for the reply though. Upgraded intercooler and charge pipe installed! Thanks!
Took me FOREVER to take it off. Prolly harder then everything else lol.
Alguien que me diga que tal es esa marca por favor si es buena o mala
Hey, what's the idea? Is this charge pipe give improve in power?
Hi, the factory one is plastic and breaks apart
the factory plastic charge pipe cant handle much more psi of boost from the turbo if you tune the car for more boost/power, it will blow up the plastic charge pipe so we replace it with a all metal charge pipe.
Are the two pipes supposed to touch each other inside the silicon connector or no?
No, there will most likely be a gap
Kies Motorsports thank you!!! I’ve now sone the charge pipe and paddle shifter retrofit with your videos. Keep up the excellent videos.
Is this the same process for an m235i? 😅
it is and it took me 3.5 hours working from the grond 1 side jack stand .. i got an m235i xdrive
I have the exact 335i x drive on the video but when I go to www.kiesmotorsports.com/collections/charge-pipes I can't find the charge pipe you are installing. Where can I find it? Thanks!
Anyone have any issues with the racewerks cp popping off. Just seems the clip wouldn’t provide enough support
Wow all of this for a charge pipe install on a 335i, you should have installed a high flow intercooler also. It’s crazy because a X5 35i charge pipe is easy to install.
you can jsut pull the metal retainer clip instead of trying to pry the black piece off you do not need to remove the black piece off
It was a hard job
I made sure to show the good, bad and ugly
Is it the same for the n20 ?
Similar, I believe the N20 is easier
Is that engine oil in the stock charge pipe?
Yea.. oil catch can is a future video..
Kies Motorsports worse than what i thought... might need to install oil catch can for my f30 as well.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS BMW IS AN MSPORT RIGHT?
Yes, it is