Kiraly 43M: Hungary's Overpowered Submachine Gun
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2017
- The 43M submachine gun was developed by Pal Kiraly, based on the MKMO and MKPS series of submachine guns he had worked on for SIG in Switzerland before returning to Hungary (we would go on to make the San Cristobal carbines for the Dominican Republic after WW2). The initial version of the gun was the 1939 39M, with a 3” longer barrel and fixed buttstock. This was adopted by the Hungarian military, but only ordered in small numbers (about 600), which led the FEG factory to delay production until they could get enough other orders to economically justify tooling up. That finally happened in 1942, and in the meantime Kiraly and the factory had nearly finished the improved and shortened 43M version.
Ultimately about 13,000 39M SMGs were made from 1942 to 1944, and about 5,000 43M SMGs in 1944. At that point Allied bombing ended production, and the tooling was eventually confiscated during Russian occupation of Hungary.
Mechanically the 43M (and 39M) are lever-delayed blowback actions, firing the 9x25mm Mauser Export cartridge - the most powerful submachine gun cartridge in use at the time. The 43M stock feels very flimsy and uncomfortable, and it folds under the action of the gun. In addition, the 40-round magazine folds forward into the stock (much like the SIG MK series guns) to make it a much more compact gun to transport. Note that the 39M and 43M use different magazines!
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Some explanation/translation:
-the Z=zárt which means closed
-the E=egyes which means single
-the S=sorozat which means sequence, full auto
The hungarian designation works like this:
-number is the year of putting to service
-M=minta which means (in this case) sample or model
-everything else is further description of the weapon (for example D=desszant-desant/paratrooper)
did you just use the word witch as in a witch that casts spells improperly, 4 times? lol
Was about to write the same, thank you though!
Wich*
Thanks, Z gave me a puzzle. Köszi!
"Put it in H!"
"When your favourite gun is MP5 but you love ww2 guns as well"
Tomek Inn More like a UMP45.
@@tlshortyshorty5810 The UMP45 seems like the opposite direction, a larger but slower round. These are higher velocity.
bruh make the gun black then people can mistakenly recognise that as a MP5
What a weird thing to love... You love war... obviously never been in a gun fight in your life.
@@ih7168 have you?
As a Hungarian, I found this very interesting, I learned a lot from our old weapon. cool channel!
Thanks!
me too (im Hungarian too)
Ez a világ leggyönyörűbb géppisztolya az tuti. 🇭🇺🇭🇺
(hi duffywolves et al !!) not hungarian (alaskan?), but also found this more interesting than the average WWII subbie. just a little different mechanically, plus the political/historical information was really fun. thanks ian, and hello to all firearms enthusiasts!!!
Another description about this SMG (in Hungarian only).
czcams.com/video/kKa7LatGIEM/video.html
Anyone: Hey Király, are you building an SMG, an Assault Rifle, a Battle Rifle or a Semi Auto Rifle?
Kiraly: *YES*
Just for correction, his name was "Király", means king.
Just if it wasn't directly wrote like this.
@@zeusz3237 lol, kral in Turkish means king too
Btw corrected it now
@@bruensal7182 Old hungarian : "kiral" (volkssprechen).
Türki 1400-1500-1600 years in Hungary invasion and agression! So wie "Sowiet" am 1945-1990. 😢
@@yencehungarian you have to use proper english if you want to have a real conversation. Stop opening your mouth, just so shit can flow out, but speak properly
@@bruensal7182 I dont speak english, sorry.
And türki auch nicht. ☝️
*"Oh crap, there's like, a big war, and we're gunna need a lot of guns."*
Hungary was adamant on staying the hell out of it. Then the germans side we either attack yugoslavia, who we just got done signing a cooperation agreement with, or they invade. Populus was wildly anty semitic, and nazism was popular, but not on power. The prime minister ended up commiting suicide, and his predecessor decided to jump off the slippery slope, steamroll Yugoslavia, engineer a false attack on a civilian target, then completley unnecessearly declare war on all the Allied nations.
@Ego Alter bro that is not entirely true... we were ready to jump into the war to get back our monarchial territories ripped from us
Confusion in translation did you say big gun and a lot of war?
@@vicePVic Which didn't work out of course.
Gotta say though, I think joining the Axis was inevitable, maybe I just want to think it wasn't completely voluntary, but I don't know.
We were in a pretty shitty position nontheless, from the west the nazis and from the east the commies, sooner or later one of them would've trampeled through us, and in the end both did.
@@Lajos_Kelemen Well, at least you weren't alone with this sort of situation.
I'm simple Polish, I see Hungarian, I give like.
Lengyel magyar két jó barát ❤️❤️
Polak, Wegier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki.
Lengyel, Magyar két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát.
What a nice guy!
Marek Magdziak I’m polish and Hungarian, I give 2 likes
Lengyel Magyar mint két barát
Wow, a folding stock _and_ a folding magazine, overpowered SMG with lever-delayed blowback action, that was apparently well-liked and functional firearm. And a bayonet to boot. That's really innovative. Why have I never heard of this weapon before? Interesting Hungarian engineering, greets from Finland.
"There's isn't a whole lot of them here in the United States..." Yeah... Guess what? There's isn't a whole lot of them in Hungary either xD
Ha szeretnél látni egy pár szépet akkor nézz be a Hadtörténeti múzeumba. Nagyon szép darabok vannak ott.
@@sikertsok225 Láttam őket jópárszor
@@krokikrisi Én konkrétan onnan jövök. Még kérdés nélkül szétszedtem az AK talán 63F-et. A fa tusos verzió kapaszkodóval.
Apparently I found some parts of this gun in a forest nearby Kiev when I was 13 years old. I didn't have a magazine and a stock and all the wood parts disintegrated after 40 years. but I recognize a bolt with a lever. I remembered it well because I've never seen anything like this in Soviet or German sub-machine guns and I unsuccessfully tried to figure out what caliber it was, because 9mm Luger was too short.
that's really interesting. A lot of history there.
Yes. I used to live in an area which was the part of heavily equipped defense line, protecting Kiev. During WWII a lot of fights took place there. You can still find a whole German tank or plane somewhere in a swamp.
Were you not afraid of stepping on mines?
@@clone3_7 I believe 90% of those are now not working
@@akurvaanyadat er . . . that's still 10% which are . . . not inert. careful there my friend!
My country have so few firearms, which are worth mentioning, so im really glad you have decided to make this video. Thank you!
right, I meant like that :)
right, I meant like that :)
Atleast you have made your own tanks,
Estonia is not able to, we have made our own guns tho.
Everybody has a cool gun at some point or another, AMD rifles are still pretty neat!
Mert kurva Labancok nem hagyták.Mikor megcsinálták a FÉG-et 1890 körül abba is bevették őket meg a németeket az vot az első hogy egyből becsődöltették a céget. Így második nekifutásra 100% állami tulajdonnal az állam indította újra, na így lett egyáltalán fegyvergyárunk 1864 után....Előtte meg 150 évig védtük a seggüket a töröktől de muszáj volt import Labanc fegyverekkel csinálni, nehogy a Császár haszna megszűnjön...
kiraly means king in hungarian, which sounds fitting for this beast of a submachine gun
Man the hungarians really make some pretty cool shit. They make DAMN good AK's believe it or not.
search for gepard gm1 and gm6 lynx
it works same ammo with mi24hind cannon
@@tajaviszt9063 do not search this!!! Every fkn vid has annyoing music rambling thru your speakers. Be warned!
Ryan Towey I’ve heard that but haven’t had the privilege of handling one yet. Have you???
Bizony :3
We just don't make good shit anymore, for some reason
Mp40 and SkS had a baby, congratulations!
trycoldman23 it kinda looks like that, huh?
Its a love child.
We will take the case to Maury - he'll hind the daddy for sure.
Yeah like a mp40/m1 carbine hybrid
I thought it was an MP5 and M1 Garand mix at first.
A bayonet on an SMG?! (heavy breathing in Japanese)
v e r y
*_H O N O R A B L E_*
The Italian MAB-38A took a bayonet as well. Mine still has the lug, I got a reproduction bayonet for it though.
When your SMG is this big and basically an assault rifle, then why not?
the british lanchester also had a bayonet lug
Pistol on photo is not shooting - it's just an exotic grip for sword, the shank of the blade fits right to magazine well. Also you can see on photo, that it doesn't have trigger guard assemblym trigger itself and bolt. It's just custom of one officer. And brits produced revolvers with bayonets seriously - img.fireden.net/vg/image/1438/68/1438689790114.jpg
The letters on the fire selector are for:
Z: "zárt", safe
E: "egy", single
S: "sorozat", auto
Designer's hungarian name: "Király Pál"
that has to be one of the nicest looking bayonets i have ever seen
Adam Spencer imagine how nice it loox sticking out of your ass!
Micsoda intelligens komment, Magyarország büszke lehet rád
Yes, interesting bayonet indeed! Beautiful but a bit heavy compared to the shorter and more agile one similar to the one used on the Mauser. Had both when growing up back in Hungary
the potential candidate list for "the very first assault rifle" just keeps expanding.
SMG Pistol Cartridge or scaled up pistol cartridge
Assault Rifle scaled down Rifle Cartridge
Battle Rifle same as Assault Rifle but with full Size Rifle Cartridge
PDW Rifle Cartridge scaled down to the Size of a Pistol Cartridge (and also the most useless shit ever)
So no it's not a "First Assault Rifle" candidate there is only one first assault Rifle the Mkb 42
PDW cartridges are extremely useful. The standard SMGs do not have the necessary capabilities to penetrate body armor. The PDW cartridges have this attribute and can be used in compact sized weapons. (P90, MP7)
***** I know what they are supposed to do but they don't have the stopping Power of a pistol round which is heavier
That's why basically everybody is still using the MP 5 despite the PDW concept beeing developed in the 80s and the P90 beeing available for already 25 Years and the MP 7 for 15
If your target has body armor you're fucked with the MP5. P90 is widely used anyway, just not adopted because germans are salty.
***** First of all Germany wasn't salty they wanted to sell guns, Weapons are a buisness and HK wouldn't Profit from FN selling P90's
But yes the MP 7 round is a little bit weaker (380ft/lb vs ~350ft/lb) both defeat the Crisat standard at over 200m tho
Secondly if i HAD to chose a PDW Cartridge it would be the 6x35mm from Knights Armament which has roughly double the amount of Energy than the P90 round (380ft/lb vs 850ft/lb)
That is in my opinion the best compromise of PDW Penetration and SMG/Carbine stopping Power at the Moment
BUT the Problem with the KAC PDW is there exists no Pistol with the same Cartridge which is in my opinion the only benefit of the P90/Five-Seven (besides the 50 Round Magazine of the P90)
Yes, finally I see this gun on the channel! As a Hungarian I was waiting for this so long because I only saw this weapon on pictures and in a museum once, so it's great to see these little features like the the folding magazine. Thanks for the video!
De ezt nem a bojlergyárban gyártották :D Ehhöm, FÉG AMD-63
Kéne már a honvédségnek pár automata roham bojler :D
Hey Hun, do you know if there was a solid stock version? Like the 39M.
Apart from the 39M I never seen one :/
HUNteRecon - You should definitely watch some of the other videos on this channel, if you haven't. They're very well done.
Nagyon király
Badum tsss
Látom vannak még itt magyarok
Utállak.. xd
@@norbertvarga1210 ???
@@norbertvarga1210 engem mindenki utál :,(
( csak vicc)
That gun looks fucking awesome. I mean overengineered as hell especially with WW2 looming but it seems to fit a perfect role for the M1 Carbine - a modern PDW style gun. Except its also an SMG, but with slightly more range. I genuinely believe if either of the two major sides fielded this gun exclusively they would have done far better than the Enfield or the Kar98. Outdated as soon as intermediate cartridges came in and whilst it would have done well with the M1 Carbine cartridge its still a short lived life, but for pre-WW2 it looks absolutely amazing. the overengineered folding mechanism looks great for things like tankers, artillery, as well as Commandos and Paras, though I doubt you could really argue for its inclusion when the STEN didn't even bother with left or right hand guard/grip.
Olivia Lambert You seem to forget; Lee Enfield and Mauser rifles are still in service today, many other firearms of a similar age are not. They were not outdated at all, a skilled rifleman could fire quickly and accurately, at ranges at which a sub-caliber firearm could not manage, using 7.92/.303 bolt action rifles (look up the "mad minute" if you need proof). The intermediate cartridge never really had the stopping power of a 7.92 or a .303 and therefore lacked range, if either coalition of WWII used the 43M exclusively then the other side would simply have used marksmen/snipers/sharpshooters to win the war. Wars are not just about technology, they are about the combination of different classes of weapon and their application. And besides; Lee Enfield no 5 "jungle carbines" were issued to paratroopers after the war along with STEN guns.
Actually the folding mechanism was invented for the paras. The original 39M version has only the foldable magazine to disguise the user as a rifleman.
The Király gun was used even after the war for a few years till the political reason didn't win and the entire army was served with Soviet weapons
Olivia Lambert,,,,, There are a lot of things that the Sten gun "didn't bother with"! Like a freakin safety! They were notorious for emptying the entire magazine if dropped, or even bumped!
"Drop your weapons!"
Dude drops his Sten and it fires an entire magazine killing everyone in the room!
That thing has to be near the top of the list of worst weapons ever fielded by a major military. P
Mike Benko
A T-34's combat life expectancy was about three weeks, with at most six months of operational use period. It was made for numbers more than it was for actually being useful. 30 T-34s against say, twelve Panzers suddenly gives the Germans a problem
and its armor, and its pretty decent speed for a heavy tank
Looks bit like Mini-14 having identity crisis.
Did you just assume my caliber?
Taistelukalkkuna a pistol caliber mini 14 would be cool
Excuse me, "mini" Is size normative. The correct term is "Alternatively Sized 14"
'Member back when there were only rifles and pistols, I 'member...
Pepperidge farms Remembers
Ian: "This gun actually has a folding magazine."
Me: "Wait, whut?"
I wonder how many feeding problems that caused when troops had to fold the magazine back in place in order to fire.
MAS-38, MAT-49, and Hotchkiss Universal want your attention.
2:20 seems pretty obvious if you watch the video at all
"what size stock do you want for the new smg?"
*N O*
Builder: what stock do you want on the new smg?
Designer: sub who? Ya mean the automatic pistol I invented?
Builder: ?the automatic pisto... whatever. I'll just wing it.
The folding magazine most important job was to hide officers from the enemy snipers.
Smg's were mostly used by officers or high ranked soldiers so snipers can easily detect them by the long straight magazine.
However if you fold the magazine, this weapon kinda looks like a rifle and if i remember correctly there are variations of this smg with rifle stock.
I have read somewhere that it was intended to look like an normal battle rifle, because soviet snipers took out the guys with the submachineguns first. This could be the reason for the bulkiness and the folding magazine.
the designer worked at sig who created a very similar gun to this with similar features and the the designer (király) also based it off the Italian model 38 which is also very similar in looks and features.
mvaczulin that actually makes a lot of sense. Ive never tought of it.
Considering the Soviets made a flamethrower that they attempted to make look like a normal backpack and Mosin rifle, that's interesting.
I dont think this makes much sense. I dont think snipers were very aware of who had which gun, and even if they did they wouldn't be picking who to shoot first. Plus, that doesn't solve any problems for the army, if there are no submachine gunners, the snipers would just shoot the next person.
@@pedrojioia I agree, it doesnt make sense. Even if they shot the guy with the submachine gun, someone else would just pick it up.
That folding magazine 😍
YES!
It looks BEAUTIFUL!
Fabulous
its awesome
I am Hungarian and I didn't know It could do that XD
Yes, it was praised by my granddad serving on the Eastern Front...
One of my great grandfathers went to the Don river and a párt of his foot was frozen off
The other one got injured, he made it home, got well and didnt want to go to war, so he would hide in the house, and my great grandmother would tell the people who came for him, that he is not there.
The reason 2nd story is longer, is because i personally know the house and used to know my great grandmother (she died in 2013 she was 94 years old, but still did everything like a 20 year old)
Btw i am Hungarian for those who dont understand my profile name
@@Murgablodazor69 Cool
I'm Hungarian and didn't even heard about this weapon, thank you for this great vid. Very informative. Would be nice to see a video about any generation of the "Gepárd" anti material rifle as well. That's a great weapon, also Hungarian made 🙂
Same here :)
Hey Gun Jesus!
Many thanks for covering this firearm.I was waiting for your review on it for ages. I would like to add a few points. The folded magazines were implemented more for concealment than for ease of transportation, also the bayonet was available for the same reason too.
The idea was if the magazine is folded and the bayonet is attached the firearm looked more like a carbine rifle and not a smg. So for an external observer the real fighting potential is hidden until the firearm is not being used.
Also the markings:
Z-Zart (Locked)
E-Egyes Loves (One/Single Shot)
F-Folyamatos Loves (Continuous Shooting)
S van a fegyveren,nem F :)
Quite big that thing!
For some reason I picture Crocodile Dundee: "that's not a sub-machine gun... _that's_ a sub-machine gun" :)
Quite cool lever-delayed action! Bit complex for a sub-machine gun, but quite simple compared to many other delaying variants.
Well simple blowback will always be the cheapest to make, but three machined moving parts and two pins is not that bad either.
I like the idea of 9x25. Like a 38 super magnum.
So much potential in unusual cartridges like this if they were charged in the right modern firearm.
I really appreciate the close-up camera work in this entire series...very interesting to see weapons I've always wondered about, in this up close fashion.. thanks!
The fire selector letters stand for Z: Zárt (Closed) 1: Egyes lövés (Single Shot, literarily "one shots") S: Sorozatlövés (Automatic fire, literarily "series of shots")
Viktor P. Kovács literally*
So, "single love" and "lots of love"? :)
No offense, it just sounds funny. But you truly do have a fascinating language. Would love to learn more of it.
"Soros" means to multiply? My best Magyar is "Nagyon Szegeny"! Koszonom Viktor!
@@georgekovacs4278 I am having trouble finding where you seen "soros" in this video's context?
@@georgekovacs4278 "Sor" means row, line, or queue. "Soros" means the next person in the queue, or the next thing to deal with, or something like that. "Ki a soros?": "Who is in line?" However, if you think of George Soros, he and his father were fans for Esperanto, and this name comes from that language. "Sori": to fly, "soros": future tense, "will fly".
I'm very thankful that you have bothered to translate units to metric system too. Keep up great work!
edit:''I very--'' --> ''I'm very--''
how adorable, you actually documented what you edited.
I'm always nodding when he says these pretending I have any idea what these numbers really represent.
wood1155 why is it cringy? its cringy talking about grains.
wood1155 Ok but why grams? That is quite oddly specific.
Not to say I don't have similar feelings about some imperial units. I get inches, feet, and even grains to some extent, but friggin footpounds grind my gears... Energy value is something you wont ever need outside of science and engineering, so the fact someone uses feet to measure it is just so irritating :D
Grains / Grams are the mass of the bullet, feet / second and meters / second are its velocity. You could calculate the energy from that or just look at some common rounds and use them for comparison. Like modern 9mm NATO rounds are typically 115-grain and something like 1,180 ft/s. The round for this gun is a bit heavier at 128-grain and a bit faster 1475 ft/s. So it hits harder than the comparison round.
Just love the way Ian makes sure to give us "metric" folks (almost the whole world) our due - that's why an Indian in Cambodia is in love with your vids!
What does it matter that most of the world uses one system over the other? The vast majority of the English-speaking world (the large majority of his audience) is familiar with both, and imperial units simply make more sense for day-to-day use. Metric is better for extremely precise measurements but it's just as arbitrary as any other measurement system.
what excellent engineering.
Alles Schwiezer isch guet, u gibt e guete Lüüne!
@Hermann the antisemetic DUCKY!!! ...whose grandpa got shot by it.
Ew...
TE BOLLOOOND!! MAGYAR TEKNOLÓGIA A LEGJOBB A VILÁGBAN!
There is something beautiful about ww2 bayonets.
I agree. And bayonets in general. I wish more modern guns came with bayonet lugs
thank you for the metric as well, it was much appreciated as i always had to convert the stats every time in other videos to metric to make sense of the scale
Iono Sama not american?
probably the coolest gun youve found in a very long time, it's got everything!!
man this was the first forgotten weapons video i watched
got me hella hooked
good to be back
That's a neat little kit. I like the design, it almost feels like the predecessor to the tacti-cool movement with the compact folding design.
There was an American beach volleyballer named Karch Kiraly. He pronounced it "keer-EYE".
he didnt know his own name?
@@themitri5643 No. He did. That is how it is pronounced.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kir%C3%A1ly
once again, a weapon that I had no clue about. Thank you for posting!
*Thank you for posting all of your videos. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!*
Wow , the folding Magazin is amazing . Greetings to Hungary from Germany
S for "Sorozat tüzelés" (automatic fire) E for "Egyes tüzelés" (semi automatic or single shot) Z for "Zár" (safety or closed) in hungarian :) THX for the video it was a plesaure to watch as a Hungarian :)
My absolut favourite youtube channel! Always great videos :)
What an absolutely elegant sub gun! Beautifully designed, thanks, Ian.
What an elegant way of making it delay. I really like the bolt system on this gun.
"PaL KiRaLiY" I probably just butchered that name
That's an understatement
how do you pronouce it
@@ru4965the á sound is like the a in Apple, and the ly in Király is like the y sound in why
@@ru4965 You pronounce it ki-ruy, the ki like in the kiss, the ruy is like when you say guy but replace the G sound with an R. It's because LY is one letter and makes the Y sound, yes you heard it ONE, so you don't put the L and Y sound together. So here you go if you are too lazy to spend 30 sec. on google translate.
That's one of the coolest bolts/actions I've seen on this channel!
Thank you for introduce a little piecef of our history! Greetings from Hungary! :)
Greetings from Turkey to all Magyarok
Damn that's a cool weapon. The lever delayed blowback system is nifty
Like an unholy (not always bad) marriage between a famas and an arse-about M1 carbine 😀 I LIKE it! Outstanding video as ever Ian. You have some of the highest production standards on CZcams as far as I am aware.
Very cool forgotten weapon. Keep up the good work Ian.
Holy crap, I love seeing Hungarian weapons and was irrationally excited when I saw the thumbnail lol
Need this in bf5 for medic class
Unfortunately we wont get it.
The saddest part is, its not gonna receive anymore update, nor content
Missed opportunity lol
I like everything about this. My favorite of these videos are ones that are surprisingly simple, as here you just push one button and everything pretty much just falls out, or flies out... This really is a nice looking thing, maybe more expensive and more machined parts than people want this kind of thing to have. It's the engineer in me, there are so many ways to do basically the same thing!
I like the clever design.
Thank you for showing that.
That bayo was a short sword lol
69 likes... Nice
I have one of those bayonets in my garage, awaiting cleaning, and rehandling, and it's actually long enough that you can't have it on you in public by hungarian law
That's a handsome looking SMG with all that wood.
Looks like a great idea and equally great execution!
Love this look at a truly unique gun, thanks!
This is a very rare weapon even in Hungary. I am a hungarian and had some friends who are WW II. reenactors, they never ever seen a Király. You pronounce it like "keerai".
Ly is pronounced without y, or somi am topd as i do not speak magyar
Lenyűgöző technika.
Az.
Takács József w-whaaaat?
@@makotoyuki2199 Fascinating technique (They meant technology btw)
Ezt kellett volna 7,92 be megcsinálni, és akkor olyan gépkarabélyunk lett volna, hogy az orosz szibériáig menekül.
Nem pisztolylőszerrel kellett volna szarakodni, úgy is karabélyhosszú a csöve.
@@magyarharcos71 + Bayonet és beépitett gránátvető (már akkoriban is létezett) és koreáig is menekülnek az oroszok..
Hopsz.. lemaradt a beépitett lángszoró mert kőolaj vagy Napalmal is működik.
Fantastic video, the lever delay system in this looks simple and disassembly looks to be easy.
I love this channel so informative and just awesome good work ~~!
It'd be a real sticky situation if you ever happened across this gun and didn't know that S on the safety didn't stand for safe.....
But a Hungarian would never miss it. :-) Safety is Biztonság in Hungarian.
"Kiraly" means "King" and is basically pronounced like "Kiraay" (long "a") in english
Th3Grimmi - Thank you.
translate.google.com/#auto/en/kir%C3%A1ly
I knew the pronunciation thanks to the volleyball player Karch Kiraly en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karch_Kiraly
Or kerahy
@@MerkurioBuagrec word kir
Guns are a really fascinating topic of engineering to study, you get so much accomplished with just a clever arrangement of springs and levers.
Thank you! Greetings from Hungary! :)
There were an other function of the foldable magazine. Since snipers were trained to shoot down the soldiers who have automatic weapons, they could just fold in the magazine an predent like they were a regular rifleman.
And I thought the M1 Garand's Ping was Satisfying... That Magazine folding mechanism is H O T
Very thank for video!!!!!! Jurij from Hungary
I have seen this video no less than a dozen times and every time I see it I fall more and more in love with this particular smg. It chambers an outstandingly powerful cartridge for the time(10 mm auto is to .40 S&W as 9mm export is to 9 mm para.), it has an absolutely brilliant yet simple system of operation, and its compact, space-saving design (folding stock AND magazine) REALLY was ahead of its time in terms of being the forerunner of today's assault rifle.
These guns that encroach on the "assault rifle" concept while not looking like one are pretty cool.
Nice i've just saw one in Budapest on holiday one week ago.
Köszönöm neked ezt a videót!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very interesting firearm. Well done explanation as usual.
Wall or guns Hungarians know how to build it.
Franki B
Exactly!!’😅
Can confirm
Except roads😂😂
@@borsosbence5681 the roads between Vámospércs and Debrecen have been the way they were for like a year like come on what's stopping you from sending in more workers to make the road??
Srácok nyugi már... Csak vicceltem. Amúgy sem érdekes nekem mert nem vezetek.
Isn't another bonus of the lever delayed system that it is an out of battery safety? Since the heavy part of the bolt needs to move forward for it to protrude. Really clever setup.
Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼
I am hungarian and gun lover. Thanks for the great upload!
That is a wonderfully designed weapon. Would it be more of a full auto carbine, instead of a submachine gun?
Very interesting design.
Nice video! Greeting from Hungary!
Although I could be wrong, I think Hungary had weapon production restrictions put on them from WW1 that limited their armament capabilities, so that may be why the government "hesitated" on the gun order.
By 39 we were building medium tanks and high performance fightercraft, so I dont think they worried too mutch about the restrictions at that point.
"medium tanks" yeah, awful light tanks
In light of the fact that no armour was permitted by the peace treaty at all, I believe my point stands.
hmmm! The Tas was one of the best tanks in ww2
Correction. Would have been had it actually been produced. The prototypes got bombed.
That's an extremely cool bolt.
Great style of presentation
I hope the smg uploads never stop
What a cool weapon. I wonder what a modernized version of this thing would look like, and if it would be viable today.
That satisfying click of the bayonet *orgasm*. Thanks for making a video about a hungarian gun, loved it! Cheers
What a beautiful bolt system. Strangely, after seeing this a while back, I saw a Hungarian WW2 movie called 'Dear Elza', and there were a few 39M's to be seen, and it was interesting to see them in context. Hope ya like subtitles! It was a fantastic movie.
such a beautiful weapon... the woodwork is incredible
3:53 it sounds like they were procrastinating a bit
DW19945211444 As someone who comes from a Hungarian family I can confirm this to be true.
Azért mondjuk megnéztem volna Lenint ha Szovjet -Orosz országból mondjuk úgy kell neki menni a II Vh-ba, hogy 1918-ban mondjuk megmarad az ural környéke a fekete tengerig, meg Moszkva....Mi meg végig galoppoztunk két gazdasági válságot egyet 19 után egyet meg 31-33 között, mire odaért a fekete csütörtök az USA-ból...Horthy már épp a nyugdíj rendszert építette ki.
Ezek szerint jobb lett volna ha ő is a világforradalomra hajt...
As others mentioned we were bound by Treaty of Trianon to not weaponise and there was not much fighting in Hungary up to 1944. In 1942-43 200k soldiers went to fight the Russians which would explain the sudden need too.
I wish I could speak my ancestors tongue. Hungary is such a cool place
Start learn bro, its not so difficult as it seems ;)
First 2 word you need to know here is: bojler eladó. Very important message to all of us (hungarians).
It's absolutely beautiful and super interesting. Just wish the leadership wasn't so nuts.
It's absolutely beautiful and super interesting. Just wish the leadership wasn't so nuts.
great work!
what a great looking weapon. nice woodwork and clever design.
Thank you for the numbers! Sincerely yours, "metric folk".