What's even more awkward is his tossing arm. It almost goes limp and folds over his head. I used to train myself to turn slightly before the toss, to have my back slightly towards the net, so that I am focused only on the toss, and the ball, and not the court/result of the serve. It's tempting to want to see the result of your serve before it's happened, but his tossing arm and shoulder position, however awkward it may be, prevents that.
Normal to me is the Stanford Uni VHS series in the '80s called SyberVision, which used computer-animated technology along with Stan Smith's serve on replay mode to get the motion in the viewer's mind
Not only beautiful, but efficient. No need to use more energy than needed to produce maximum results, especially if you’re playing a match in the hot sun and it can go on 2 hours.
Yup, so agree. The wrist cocking, the way he use his body against his arm to control the toss. Same exact thing as Roddick. But times 2? or times a 100, who knows. I call it chicken serve (with the racket being the beak pecking at the ground)
I appreciate this analysis because you’re right. Casual fans just poke at the windup but that bendy dance he does at the beginning isn’t what’s strange here because that’s inconsequential 😅
@@ReTracer He has supposedly beaten someone in the top 500 of ATP, he definitely knows where he is going. It is shocking that this serve form is what felt natural to him though! Also he is ranked 1338 in the world
This kind of reminds me of a baseball pitcher. They will often keep the ball behind them for as long as possible to help hide the pitch grip and make it harder to pick up on the pitch. Maybe this player thinks that by doing it this way, it will make it harder to pick up on where he is aiming the serve
La tête vers l'arrière c'est la recherche d'un levier supplémentaire pour gagner en puissance au détriment du système proprioceptif (vision sur le terrain) - Il reussi grâce à celà à mettre en tension l'ensemble des chaînes musculaires entre les membres supérieurs et inférieurs et de bénéficier d'une meilleure élasticité. C'est bien entendu une manière de faire très personnelle mais qui fonctionne pour lui.
@@liamkingsbury7438 No, I appreciate that actually because I genuinely don’t know the term😂 I mean, I don’t see it (just looks like a whacky serve to me), but thanks for the explanation😉
There is a lot of excess motion, which is fine. Many people pronate their wrist before the service motion has started. We see this with Andy Roddick, John Isner, and Evo Karlovic. All huge servers, and the initial pronation helps to propagate more pronation through contact. Not a bad motion, but all that extra movement in his routine doesn't add anything to his serve, other than being a comforting routine he's used to. Like Nadal's strange routines he does.
Biggest things are point of contact, velocity of racquet, angle at which the ball is hit. No need to analyze all that bs in the beginning probably just what he’s been doing for a decade since juniors.
Yes, the whole preparation is really weird, but the end of the process, reminds me a lot Andy Roddick's serve. And it's really difficult to read his serve, how to know where is he going to serve ?
When I first started learning tennis in high school, I had this video game for the PS2 called “Hard Hitter Tennis”, and one of the characters had a serve very similar to this. 😂 When I was learning and developing my serve, I tried emulating each different character’s serve to see if any of them felt comfortable to me, and the character with the funky serve was actually pretty effective. That’s not how I ended up serving in the long run, but every once in a while I’d break out that weird serve just as a risk and have actually aced a few opponents with it.
Maybe he has an injury to some part of his body and he had to develop a service motion that bypasses the possible injury? Otherwise, he developed this to intimidate or have opponents watching the motion instead of the ball. Patrick was doing his best to be complimentary about the motion but it is hard to say something nice about that motion
The fundamentals of this serve isn't uncommon, because it achieves what's known as a kick serve. However, I do admit that the way he goes about achieving that outcome is a weird process.
It's just the initial set up that is weird: if you watch the actual service motion it's pretty normal. I've seen way weirder: Alex Dolgop... Alex Dolgopo... Alex D.....you know the one I mean. That guy that does a running jump serve Boris Becker Plenty of weirder ones, imo.
I don't think I do it as extreme as that guy but if I'm trying to kick it way wide then that's around how my torso would be oriented - the head rotation is just a product of that.
It’s the tennis equivalent to Luis Tiant pitching in baseball. Can you please do a video on how to read the serve beyond the standard of watching placement of the toss so your return is ok against 5.5 rated players or higher?
keep your eyes on the ball, split step during the toss, then it is just about how quick you register and react to where it is going which goes back to eyes on the ball. Reallllly watch that thing, as silly as it sounds it is arguably the most important thing about tennis, eyes on the ball and react to where it is going.
looks like a side spin serve , in the world of table tennis we call it the tomahawk serve and this seems to have a similar arc in the air and side spin top spin motion..
Bro casts a spell before he serves
You stole this comment 💀
that’s hilarious ur actually so funny and everyone wants to be like you hahahaha
@@friendlypickle_2081 I get that a lot
Funny but stolen
Stolennn
I've decided to call it 'Squid serve'.
😂 good name
The squid serve already exists so no
It does kind of look like an octopus falling out of a tree 😂
🐙 serve.
Good serve. His wrist very like Joe, body motion like Backer.
Didn't even notice his head tbh. Focused all on that boneless slytherin cobra jutsu. Cool how a pro sees things
What's even more awkward is his tossing arm. It almost goes limp and folds over his head. I used to train myself to turn slightly before the toss, to have my back slightly towards the net, so that I am focused only on the toss, and the ball, and not the court/result of the serve.
It's tempting to want to see the result of your serve before it's happened, but his tossing arm and shoulder position, however awkward it may be, prevents that.
Rotfllllllllll
Exactly for I never saw it as well, I was focused on the same things as you lolol but it's still a decent serve
Wait til you see how he eats cereal.
XD
😂😂😂😂😂
?
Froot loops?
With a spoon 🙅♀️
It's a little John McEnroe, a little Andy Roddick, and full college tuition for a chiropractor's three kids.
I can imagine his Physiotherapist's legendary facepalm watching him play
His physio stacking greens, now that squidman comes in every two weeks needing a cartilage replaced.
He is beating his opponents with laughter 😆
My man’s gone pray mantis mode
Haha somehow this seems totally suiting 😂
He forgot to do the same for the volley
🤭😆😂🤣
Thinking exactly the same thing, after all that 🤣🤣🤣👍
wait till u see his forehand, his name is vlad breazu and he plays for oregon
Volley had no finesse 🤷🏻♂️
He is making sure all main muscles are stretched for every serve.
Free style, exorcist mode ...😂😂😂 ❤🎾
I literally laughed loud with this one
Me too
It’s a bit like those horror films when someone contorts into an alien or a zombie or something.
Kyrgios and Roddick in one shot
Uh no. Kyrgios and Roddick just have abbreviated take backs to get to trophy position. Literally the opposite of this kid’s over exaggerated setup
@@kabob21holy damn yappathon
@@cYklrit’s 4 lines lmfao brain rotted
The serve is actually normal....he just does a bunch of weird unnecessary things before he serves...🤔😒
Jokes aside - yes. Guess he simply can'tvconnect with his body properly without some weird ad-moves.
Normal to me is the Stanford Uni VHS series in the '80s called SyberVision, which used computer-animated technology along with Stan Smith's serve on replay mode to get the motion in the viewer's mind
I think he's trying to imitate Andy Roddick.
He's probably gonna twist himself at some point
Service action looks like an exotic bird dancing trying to attract a mate
Look at John Mac Enroe
He was looking backwards too.
I like that Mouratoglou never actually said that it doesn't work or that it needs fixing, he just says that it's strange to him..
Q: Who is your tennis idol?
Vlad: I grew up watching Federer, but his style is difficult to copy, so I modelled my game after Stephen Hawking
Andy Roddick*
Already seen this joke
You don’t need to copy. If u copy you don’t have your own style
Hawking!!😅😅😅good one
Simplicity is beautiful and that certainly ain't! 😂
Not only beautiful, but efficient. No need to use more energy than needed to produce maximum results, especially if you’re playing a match in the hot sun and it can go on 2 hours.
There is beauty in ugliness! 😂
Problem is, he doesn't get as much effect on the ball as he would like with the extreme setup, he defeats his preparation by striking it ordinarily.
@@funkyguy99such a beautiful ugly comment
Andy Roddick imitation serve!
I was thinking the same seeing Andy serve in a recent video. It’s not too far off to be honest
Yup, so agree. The wrist cocking, the way he use his body against his arm to control the toss. Same exact thing as Roddick. But times 2? or times a 100, who knows. I call it chicken serve (with the racket being the beak pecking at the ground)
To the extreme degree
Thats a shit imitation then
Andy Roddick caricature serve
When you're watching an anime fight scene and you hit pause in the worst frame possible:
He gets real deep into his flow...deep as hell.
That's what she said in overflow
That's what she said in overflow
That's what she said in overflow
That serve makes me feel confident that I know what sort of parents he had growing up.
That serve is ridiculous.
John McEnroe did the same. His back faced his opponent as he did his ball toss which gave him extreme spin on the serve.
Nice music choice. AIR is great
Moon safari what an album
I thought we were watching Special Olympics, at first.
This move is to confuse the receiver LOL! Makes your brain spin !
Fantastic song
In case anyone is looking: It's La femme d'argent by the band Air.
Man took "twist serve" to a whole nother level
He’s gonna get a back injury
Probably not. He’s done it so much his body is accustomed to it.
For the actual serving part he doesn't look that weird, all the windup stuff is just ceremony, doesn't actually affect the shot at all.
Ostrich form.
He’s just incorporating a spirit animal into the serve.
Table tennis serve on a tennis court
Good point
His opponent is mesmerized!
Great song choice
Amazing. Looks very similar to tomahawk serve in table tennis. A lot of sidespin.
I appreciate this analysis because you’re right. Casual fans just poke at the windup but that bendy dance he does at the beginning isn’t what’s strange here because that’s inconsequential 😅
Pretty good serve though. Accurate and a lot of spin. Guy looks a good player.
This serve action probably keeps the opponent guessing on whether he's going wide or down the T.
I don’t think he knows if he’s going wide or down the T
@@ReTracer 😀
@@ReTracer He has supposedly beaten someone in the top 500 of ATP, he definitely knows where he is going. It is shocking that this serve form is what felt natural to him though! Also he is ranked 1338 in the world
@@ReTracer lmao
Coaches must've hated coaching this kid growing up
Aliens do truly live amongst us
The Elaine Dance of tennis serves.
He serves like he’s possessed by an actual demon 😭
The best part is how amazing of a player he is. He’s a 12.5 utr starter a d1 college team. Says a lot to all the social media warriors out there
I think, he serves with a twist of his hip, perhaps adding a lot if spun to his serve.
This kind of reminds me of a baseball pitcher. They will often keep the ball behind them for as long as possible to help hide the pitch grip and make it harder to pick up on the pitch.
Maybe this player thinks that by doing it this way, it will make it harder to pick up on where he is aiming the serve
“I’ve never seen anything like this in my life”-Patrick slips and tells us how he really feels
La tête vers l'arrière c'est la recherche d'un levier supplémentaire pour gagner en puissance au détriment du système proprioceptif (vision sur le terrain) -
Il reussi grâce à celà à mettre en tension l'ensemble des chaînes musculaires entre les membres supérieurs et inférieurs et de bénéficier d'une meilleure élasticité. C'est bien entendu une manière de faire très personnelle mais qui fonctionne pour lui.
It called having a kinesthetic awareness, combined with a synchronized wind up.
“When he tosses the ball, he’s looking backwards” 😂😂😂 I died laughing
The "I just hit my head super hard and now my body moves like this" serve
Lowkey kind of zesty 💀
Highkey
I don’t understand, what does that mean?
@@Tennisisreallyfun I’m just gonna be straight up (no pun intended); it means it seems gay
@@liamkingsbury7438 No, I appreciate that actually because I genuinely don’t know the term😂 I mean, I don’t see it (just looks like a whacky serve to me), but thanks for the explanation😉
so fruity and completely unnecessary lol
There is a lot of excess motion, which is fine. Many people pronate their wrist before the service motion has started. We see this with Andy Roddick, John Isner, and Evo Karlovic. All huge servers, and the initial pronation helps to propagate more pronation through contact. Not a bad motion, but all that extra movement in his routine doesn't add anything to his serve, other than being a comforting routine he's used to. Like Nadal's strange routines he does.
Viktor Troicki had a similar serve and he served pretty good.
Risking time violation there😂
love that you used air for the background music
A serve if Roddick and McEnroe’s serve had a baby
It's a reverse slice serve. The server is vastly showboating, and the serve did not have much of an effect on the receiver either.
Biggest things are point of contact, velocity of racquet, angle at which the ball is hit. No need to analyze all that bs in the beginning probably just what he’s been doing for a decade since juniors.
Yes, the whole preparation is really weird, but the end of the process, reminds me a lot Andy Roddick's serve. And it's really difficult to read his serve, how to know where is he going to serve ?
He is a tennis time traveler. Future humans have less joints to block their slithering
He was imitating a ping pong professional service
Do not forget to appreciate the tossing arm motion :D
Looks like he's having an "episode".
It’s called the “Zombie serve”
When I first started learning tennis in high school, I had this video game for the PS2 called “Hard Hitter Tennis”, and one of the characters had a serve very similar to this. 😂 When I was learning and developing my serve, I tried emulating each different character’s serve to see if any of them felt comfortable to me, and the character with the funky serve was actually pretty effective. That’s not how I ended up serving in the long run, but every once in a while I’d break out that weird serve just as a risk and have actually aced a few opponents with it.
The cerebral palsy serve
Andy Roddick serves like this at the beginning but his striking is totally different.
Bro is serving like he likes to spend some extra time in the showers after the match 😂
That is Andy Roddick octopus serve 😂
He is not looking backwards, follow his eyes, he looks at the ball. 😊
He just holds his racket like a ping pong paddle… bringing his table style to the court!
Maybe he has an injury to some part of his body and he had to develop a service motion that bypasses the possible injury?
Otherwise, he developed this to intimidate or have opponents watching the motion instead of the ball. Patrick was doing his best to be complimentary about the motion but it is hard to say something nice about that motion
Reminds me of 10 pin bowling and all kinds of unusual techniques to bowl the ball.
The fundamentals of this serve isn't uncommon, because it achieves what's known as a kick serve. However, I do admit that the way he goes about achieving that outcome is a weird process.
He really is SERVIng 💅💅💅
This guy looks like he is not okay
스포츠는 사람이하는 표현중에 가장 아름다운 모습인데.
이선수는 더 아름다움을 추구하는구나.
전 세계 시청자들이여 편견을 버리자.
Bro serves like someone described Rodricks serve to him but has never seen it before.
If you can throw a baseball, you can perform a good tennis serve. This serve inspired by Luis Tiant.
Not only Roddick's serve. His volley too.
Love the music. Kudos
Bro’s serve has cerebral palsy
he’s a goat at university of oregon, one of the best players there
It's just the initial set up that is weird: if you watch the actual service motion it's pretty normal. I've seen way weirder:
Alex Dolgop... Alex Dolgopo... Alex D.....you know the one I mean.
That guy that does a running jump serve
Boris Becker
Plenty of weirder ones, imo.
I don't think I do it as extreme as that guy but if I'm trying to kick it way wide then that's around how my torso would be oriented - the head rotation is just a product of that.
He was trying really hard to NOT say, "Bro look re+arded." 🤣
The backhand volley afterwards is much worse
It’s the tennis equivalent to Luis Tiant pitching in baseball. Can you please do a video on how to read the serve beyond the standard of watching placement of the toss so your return is ok against 5.5 rated players or higher?
keep your eyes on the ball, split step during the toss, then it is just about how quick you register and react to where it is going which goes back to eyes on the ball. Reallllly watch that thing, as silly as it sounds it is arguably the most important thing about tennis, eyes on the ball and react to where it is going.
The amount of torque generated is key
looks like a side spin serve , in the world of table tennis we call it the tomahawk serve and this seems to have a similar arc in the air and side spin top spin motion..
Just casually dropping Moon Safari on a tennis clip.
Moon safari
Have you ever seen John McEnroe's service?
He turned his whole body, like facing the crowd.
You know this guy is French when he’s playing Air
I'd get a sore back if i served like that
If Quasimodo played tennis