🛩️ SpeedyBee F405 Wing APP - Flight Controller Review
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- A quick review of the new F405 Wing APP fixed wing flight controller from Speedybee.
This flight controller was sent to me for free for review, however SpeedyBee have had no input on the creation of this video, nor have they seen it before you.
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"No aircraft to put it in." Time to fire up that 3D printer!!! This FC looks to be an excellent option in the FW/FC world! Ordered one to test!
Any competition in fixed wing FC's is a good thing, thank you for highlighting this affordable new FC. Mid-pandemic the only ones I could get a hold of at reasonable prices, were the Chinese Wing-10FC boards... Always nervous when I'm flying with them, and replacing them one by one. This'll do nicely!
I absolutely agree. Matek generally make really good FC's, but they've been getting steadily crazy expensive in recent years, so it's good to see some competition and a more reasonable price
I bought two because of your FB posts, thanks man!
Nice review!
The "exchange" to your friend made me laugh 😹👍
Hello, you have made a great video. I bought the FC as a result. After 2 hours of operation and setup, there was a short circuit on the circuit board and the FC caught fire. I contacted Speedybee directly because I had also bought the FC there. They then decided that it was not a fault with the circuit board and that they could give me a 30% discount if I bought it again. I think something like that should also be mentioned in a video. A regular customer warranty is simply rejected here. Greetings Georg😮
Considering the price - about 39€ (40-45 usd) its an amazing board! Honestly, didnt see a FC that cheap in years. Watched the market blow up with prices on the FCs, especially drones, which made me not buy certain wings as I've been out of the hobby for quite some time- that said, ill be building a wing as soon as I recieve the FC, cheers for the review!
The hand off to your buddy in exchange for the little baggy was classically smooth
Not bad for my first time eh 😂
Most people overlook how useful this FC and Bluetooth will be when using your phone and the app to setup WAYPOINT missions! My laptop does not have internet when at the field making loading missions extremely annoying on it. No internet means no map. So this is a blessing.
How about wifi hotspot from your smartphone to laptop? ;) ( just a hint how to setup older FC´s waypoint in the field )
That's actually a really good point, this FC would be awesome for doing quick waypoint missions via a phone!
1. Grab work-issued phone, turn on hotspot
2. Share with your flying friends, most of which are not using wirelessly-configurable FC's, and rely on their laptops
3. Perform swimmingly well at your job, get patted on back for how much time you're putting in on the weekends.
4. Use newfound monies from raise to buy your friends SpeedyBee FC's, so you can all stare at your phones (more)
4. Happy flying :-)
Have you managed to connect it to Mission Planner with wifi or bluetooth yet? If so how did you get it to work please... which port etc in mission planner as im really struggling
3:20 My first FPV fixed wing build(a Nano Goblin) I made the mistake of direct soldering everything, and I will never do it again. Even those specialty connectors have me a little wary. I don't know about everyone else, but my fixed wing builds get "fiddled" with quite a bit. Doing things like optimizing weight distribution, moving things to accommodate different parts or a bigger battery, improving airflow, even a hard crash that leaves you pulling everything out to repair the air frame. Direct soldering and flimsy connectors don't lend themselves to that kind of life. I'm glad to see some competition in the space and I hope we see more but I don't know if I would use this particular FC.
I'm the same, I hate direct soldering. It usually ends up looking messy and is a pain to do maintenance on. I like the pin headers and dupont connectors. Easy to work with, and easy to make your own connectors
The best one. Compared to Mtek F405 wing, its more robust, easy and RF noise is the lowest that I have ever measured. Best Wing FC.
Useful video! Finally a more affordable wing FC, Matek f7 are getting so expensive!
But, the speedybee has dual fpv camera input? Maybe it could be assigned to a spare port?
This is going to be used for a mini skyhunter build based on your video build!
Cheers buddy, nice review. I ordered one earlier today.
Great Review Giz i ordered 3 of them and at $39.00 each was a sweet deal . Looking forward to more on this flight controller .
Take Care
Yeah man, he's quite the salesman! I was surprised by the free shipping for mine!
Nice. I just hope they turn out to be reliable! Wonder if Matek will try level the playing field in the near future with a competitive product. That would be cool to see
@@gizfpvthats the part that wories me. And keeping me from buying... they kind of fucked up the design. Soft mount the middleboard but putting har connectors in between. All vibration stress will then be put on the connector between board. So softmount does nothing but screwing up the connector in the long run (vibration will be getting to the gyro via connecors anyway... I think it was iflight that tried this and stopped becaus of issues. (More vibration in a quad but still a bad design)
Any updates on them? Curious how good the power filtering is. I plan on using one with a 2.5w rush max solo and am unsure if I should buy or make a seperate LC filter
@@Zippytez I've pumped 1.2W through an AKK on the F405 Wing - so far so good. Didn't notice any artifacts or noise, at least, not more than expected. Using onboard servo BEC with 6x 9g MGs, didn't break a sweat or get hot. I was concerned about the onboard WiFi or BT radios interfering with my RC or FPV gear, but you can shut both down with a 6sec press of the boot button. Jazzy.
You missed point about being able to switch between USB, WiFi, BLE with a long-press (6 sec) of the boot-loader button (6:06). The 'USB extender" also has a switch for disabling the buzzer, which could be a handy feature if working on a model while the family is sleeping. 🎶😱
Thanks Giz, a very well done and entertaining box-opening, first-look at what I think is an impressive first Wing-FC offering from SpeedyBee. Was impressed reading product page and Quick Start Guide. Clearly they have done some research. Even provide guidance for pilots deciding between INAV, ArduPilot as to which FC software to use.The longer manual shown here does not yet have a PDF version. Hopefully flight logs on memory card are accessible via WiFi/BLE.
LOL (7:47) .. foam snow, from a recent model crash. Nice of your buddy to play it forward. :)
I actually did record footage of the mode switching between WiFi, ble and Bluetooth, as well as how to turn on and off the led functionality, but opted not to use it in the end to keep the video from being too long. Figured all that info is in the manual, and people would be more interested in seeing what the FC could do, but not so much how to do it. I agree with you though, considering it's their first attempt at a fixed wing FC, speedybee has done a great job. They've clearly done their research, and put a lot of effort into the design. It doesn't feel like a cheap or rushed product. Hopefully it performs well. And LOL at foam snow, I should have thought of that myself 🤣
@@gizfpv Just messing on the connectivity thing. Know you're trying to keep focused and entertaining. Good choice to include the LED demo instead. Great call. :) As for performance, I'll find out soon, as ordered two. Have a Ranger T1, and a Zeta-84 needing built and flown.
When I first used a buzzer silence switch on a Matek board, I fell in love. Before that, I had a couple planes that played hard-to-get with GPS, so I'd power them off a USB power bank while they sought a GPS lock, Gorilla Tape over their buzzers lol
Make sure to order an extended lead for the USB breakout though, the included cable is very wee, and at odds with an otherwise very well thought out product
Nice FC
If *ANY* of you have issues with soldering the servo headers on - *Send Them To Me* - I'll charge you one SpeedyBee F405 FC for however many FCs you need soldered up, lol. Or meet me at the field, I'll do it for you there for nuthin! _But_ I'm going to teach you how to solder while I'm at it.
It's a great little fc for the planes I've installed them in so far; an Airloader and a Dolphin. I thought the Airloader's 6 servos may be a bit much for the servo BEC onboard, but even with all 6 stalled, it barely gets warm. Not really a fan of Wifi or BT - version control for the app is going to get out of control - but happy it's there, especially for the price!
wifi and bluetooth connective is a the best thing so its way better than matek and the way they were increasing the price was insane
Oh god yeah. I love Matek boards, they've never let me down, but they've been steadily getting more and more expensive in recent years. When I started out a Matek FC was about 20, but now they typically cost 60 - 100
@@gizfpv yeah if we compare matek with this one then its $39 vs $110 for same features
i bought one , amazing features and price
I got one cant go wrong inav is super simple to setup
wow this flight controller seems game changing, for the price and also supporting ardupilot is crazy
I agree. If it turns it to be reliable then Matek are suddenly gonna lose a lot of customers! lol
That's actually a nice board.
Fantastic review, dude! Thanks! 😃
Awesome looking board indeed! I hope they make a F7 version!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Me too! Hopefully this board will be successful and speedybee will want to invest in making more fixed wing controllers 🤞
The only field firmware change I would want to make is shutdown Bluetooth and WiFi before flight.
I think the black box can be downloaded via WiFi or Bluetooth.
Hi it is possible to use radio telemetry modules like sik module on px4 to make a connection between f405 and mission planer
I have two of these but I can’t get the le strips to illuminate?
super review and I am very excited. I ordered it today and we'll see when it arrives. I'm still thinking about which plane the FC will find its place in.
I was hoping to install mine in a Atomrc swordfish, but annoyingly couldn't find a PNP Swordfish in stock anywhere. Ended up buying the RTH version that comes with a FC, and once I realised the FC was quite good, decided not to take it out and replace with the Speedybee one. That's why I ended up giving it to my friend. But in general, I think it would work well in just about any aircraft, even a nano goblin. It's quite a small FC and doesn't weigh too much :)
@@gizfpv I had that problem too. But the AtomRC FC does a really good job and the Swordfish flies like a dream.
Maybe I'll reactivate my old S800 for the SpeedyBee FC 😅
How to use compass with this?
One good thing about the plugs: I presume you can always make them work by cutting and crossconnecting a couple of wires. To the more ham-fisted amongst us, that seems to be a safer route than soldering pin headers or wires to the actual board. But I guess you have to be ham-fisted to see that point at all, so kudos to you for missing it.
Oh absolutely, however having to cut and splice the wires would sorta defeat the point because you'd end up doing soldering lol
@@gizfpv Just not to the board itself. Ruining a wire is no big deal ...
My guy, you sound like a man in need of a JST SH1.0 kit from Amazon or EBay. The one I bought years ago came with different length wires, pre-crimped, and different plug ends, 2-pin, 3-pin, all the way up to 10-pin, so you can easily build your own.
Can this be used to run multiple external esc’s?
This can also be used with ArduPilot.
i just bought 6 of these. £30 is a steal
Apparently everyone has been bulk buying them, they're already on backorder lol. Looks like ironically I'm gonna be one of the only fixed wing pilots who doesn't have one now lol
Do you recommend this FC for zohd drift build or is it too big for it?
Unfortunately it would be way to big for the drift 😥
I want to build the F-01 and im deciding wether i should get the matek f411 or the speedybee f405 wich one is better?
Speedybee f405. Much newer, modern flight controller with more features
It’s nice to have another cheaper option but they are advertising it as a kind of no soldiering option yet supply it without the pin headers soldered on 😂.
Haha I did think that. Also gotta solder on the XT60 lead and motor wires
You buried the lede a little bit by not mentioning the price. I agree that there's some things about it that make me go "hmm", but man, for half the price of a Matek board, it's hard not to look. AtomRC also have an F405 wing board now, which I suspect is actually a rebranded Matek, because it looks basically identical to one of their older boards, but it, too, is very well priced.
Separate thought: I notice you have gotten the iNav configurator to connect wirelessly. I haven't gotten that to work properly in a few years, but I found it really handy, especially for bigger (1.5m+) wings when you're trying to calibrate the accelerometer or something and that USB cable drags all your tools off your desk as you wave a huge plane around. Eventually I gave up trying. Any special tricks you do? Or just click the "wireless mode" toggle? The app is certainly great in the field, but at the bench it's nice to use the "real" configurator.
I did mention the price.....although not till the very end 😂 Should have led with it tbh. Yes I've got the Atomrc board in my Swordfish, and so far it seems pretty good. As for the wireless connection to inav, it took a few attempts. I couldn't get WIFI or BLE to work, but standard bluetooth mode seemed to work great. Just had to connect via windows first, and then on inav configurator select wireless mode and that was it
@@gizfpv oh I know you mentioned it but yeah I think that’s a big part of the attraction of this board, could overlook a few flaws at that price, and it doesn’t seem to be lacking much, aside from the connectors, and maybe a VTX power switch via PINIO.
Hmm, I’ll have to try wireless mode again, maybe it’s me. Wonder if I could do TCP via CrossFire, too…
for $40 seems like good deal can the stack be used with out the top board
I never actually tried that, but I suspect you probably could
This softmount on middle board will putt stress on the connectors... there is a reason why quad stacks have a wire harness between fc and esc and not this solution. Matek has solid connecors between boards for this reason. (There where actually a few stacks back in time that had board connectors like this but it stoped due to problems... so either hardmount between pcbs or softmount with wire is the way to go if you like the thing to be reliable)
Imo it'll be fine; 1) I see the same board connectors on my matek F405 and F411, and 2) it's not like you're thrashing around a FW like you would a drone (unless you're like me and send your wings through trees 🤦)
Besides, isn't it kind of hard mounted already? I get the FC board is technically soft-mounted, but it is being sandwiched between hard-mounted boards as opposed to a 30x30 or 20x20 screw stack on a drone, there's no play in the SB wing stack that I've seen
Hi does anyone know affordable RC Plane Simulator?
My remote is Radiomastee Pocket ELRS
Fair trade! 😂
Damm right lol
Best thing is the price, lots of features for the money. Hate those small plugs...although a digital setup would be easy...This is yet another FC with no mounting lugs so you can screw it in a plane!!!...Why do ALL the designers overlook this?...🤔😳😳😳🇬🇧
That would actually be really nice. A fixed wing fc with some mounting points. Typically I made 3d printed mounts, but the option to just screw one down would be awesome
@@gizfpv Yes, imagine if Quad FCs didn't have mounting holes?
🤔😳😳
its 36 euro you should have sarted with that :)
I know, i know. I somehow forgot the mention that one crucial bit of information during the narration 😂 Did at least remember to mention as a note at the end though lol
So sad you had to screwed up an otherwise nice review with the dope deal. Only a dope head would find that funny. 😠
Haha it was a bag of sugar dude. You know, to 'sweeten the deal' 😂 Pause the video at 7:51 and you can clearly see the granules