There's some similarity, but she was milles ahead in terms of access and Pakistan affair... She was a friend of Sonia Gandhi... And had a child with a Pakistani elite called Salman Taseer (who later became the governor of Pakistani Punjab and assassinated)
She has written quite a bit on the plight of hindus in Punjab and what they went through in the 80s and 90s...not a fan of her...but learn to take things from context ....not everything is black and white
I can understand that, I'd suggest you to watch other documentaries, like BBC Hindi's Vivechana and Shekhar Gupta's 4 episode series on Bhindrawale. I know all three of them are leftists(including BBC outlet) but just give it a watch for information purposes and you'll understand or I'd say have a lot more clarity over what Tavleen's trying to narrate here.
Shout out to Tavleen as she gave unvarnished viewpoint for this K stan history and holds her head high like Punjabi Sikh lady with no fear. Mass respects
Since Amritpal escape story surfaced, many media channels have had pundits on who have categorically said that Bhindranwale was Indira Gandhi's creation who then got 2 Big for his boots and had to be removed by her police. Till now nobody has even ever mentioned Sanjay Gandhi's name. And throughout the period since independence Akalis have been the biggest enemies of Punjab. We all saw how they spurned the farmers protests because they wanted to keep making large sums in the Mandis.
Few days ago on Barkha Dutt's Mojo Story, Tavleen Singh Ma'am was suggesting Indian and Punjab Govt to have a talk with Amritpal over this Khalistan Resurgence ! 😂 Her POV was completely discarded by all the 5 eminent panelists, she has clearly lost the touch with reality.
She does this for a living. TV crew of ndtv and other news channels make arrangements for panel members so that they appear near on a debate. Kushal lives off his father's money, so has to make do with diy stuff.
In terms of her journalism she lacks the basic ability to research facts and present them. Instead she presents racist and biased view points of her own. Not really journalism
Tavleen before used to say good things about BJP & then her son was refused visas to India because he had written a false piece on Modi and India. His allegiance has always been with Pakistan, being the son of a Pakistani man, although he is supposed to have been brought up by his maternal grandmother. And since this incident Tavleen has become anti BJP & Modi. If she was that fair she would have condemned what her son did and continued to support BJP.
1st of all Tavleen have neutral view. 2nd the material of her son's piece isn't that bad.He actually praise him in many places in that piece but if someone only see the cover page & heading of the magazine the think it's only a hits piece against modi. It's tell the quality of PMO stuff. After that fiasco her son started writing hit piece against Modi more blatantly.
Punjab cannot prosper unless businesses invest in it. Meanwhile, Punjab is overly communalized by the Sikhs, scaring off businesses. Alkalis did no favors at all. In his naivety and desire for fame, Bhinderawale further ruined Punjab. 20 years from now, when drugs have finished the youth, what will happen?
Tavleen respects from all over but sadly don't see respects for punjabi.Panjabis are very educated with yourselves going and asking him straight way you took money from Congress that comes from panjabiat
Hi Tavleen ma'am, I respect your a lot. However, Aatish despises India and has some kind of love for his father's killers. His response to the Nupur Sharma incident is a classic example. How had this come tobe? Please advise 🙏
So now she suddenly trying to be this side, though having a son with Pakistani. And the son writes anti India articles, atleast he's true'Pakistani. Inka, na idhar na udhar, like most indian elites, and netas.
Burkha Dutt ki Gurumaa, Tavleen Singh is insinuating that BJP is aiding Amrit pal for 2024 election. She took a U turn against BJP after her Putra moh incident. Oddly, Amrit Pal situation has brought Tavleen back in limelight.
Are you suggesting that she is somehow involved with Amritpal so that she gets back some relevance? She had become quite obscure since the son's incident.
@@sandeepbhatt1354 Nehru Gandhi Vadra dynasties have been really bad for India. From the very beginning they have sold out India to others, not allowed any infra structure development of any significance, brought in changes unilaterally only affecting Hindus, throughout have appeased the peacefools who are showing their true colours. The peacefools were never restricted unlike the Hindus. Islam and Christian religions have no restrictions placed on them but Hindu religions and Hindus have and the Congis have the gall to call India secular when they have been the most discriminatory against the Hindus. Congis brought in the "Places of Worship Act" in 1991. Then they brought in the Waqf Act 1995. The M community is using this act to usurp land and property that has never belonged to them.
How you can say so confidently that bhindrawale said “ sikh kaum mnu kde manff ni kru gi” were you there because all who were there say he went out to bow down to Darbar sahib and nishan sahib for last time.
Kushal, you are not even trying to hide your hate towards Jatt Sikhs. I am Jatt Sikh and I love my country. Please don't put us all Jatt Sikhs in the same basket as those fanatics.
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok WTF, bro? Please go for a mental health checkup. I think you need it. I am saying this out of concern, not to mock you. Please take care of yourself, don't stress up much about this. Any government, including those who appease a particular community, will crush any protest by the same community that's too damaging to their state because it's economically just too damaging to them. As much as votes matter to them, money does, too. So stay calm, and please go and have a session with a trained practitioner.
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok keep you knickers on bro no one wants violence, there should be a dialogue tho between amritpal and the central gov on the grievances the Punjabi people have endured over the years
@@tanveercheema3802 Come on, man, he wants to fight you. He said, "Get your swords ready." So don't take him lightly. Also, find a way to make up for the deficit in SGPC's budget after his recent boycott of Sikhs. Also, Amritpal is no one to talk on Punjab's behalf. If he makes a party and stands in an election, his party will get fewer votes than Simranjeet Singh Mann's party.
Every other gurudwara in Punjab has photos of bhindranwale being venerated......Hindus outside Punjab don't know much I guess....majority of the Sikhs in punjab support bhindranwale but are prudent enough not to go against India as they have realised it's not practical to do so . As bhindranwale famously said that he would take khalistan if given on a platter but won't fight for it...this is the thought process followed by majority of Sikhs .as per Sikhs being in army and patriotic: ks brar and kps Gill are hated in Punjab throughout, shahbeg Singh who led khalistanis during operation blue star was a 1971 veteran, I bet this man is more loved than ks brar ... ..many of the non Punjabis don't know about the systematic cleansing and exodus of hindus which happened in many places in Punjab during 80s and 90s.......a Hindu man was lynched in gurdaspur two years ago for drinking water in a gurudwara.. Temple.desecration is a regular affair in Punjab...last year Patiala temple was desecrated. Political murders of Shiv Sena members are common. Last year a leader namely Suri was murdered in broad daylight for protesting against be-adabi against Hindu temples...so my point is on the fellow so called pro Hindus from non - Punjabi states...stop licking their boots
The whole lot of bullshit is added to isolated incidents. There is a respect for Bhindrawala in Punjab due to his opposition of Nirankaris and other religious issues of the time, and finally got portrayed as Martyr after 1984. He was not a person to settle political issues, religious leader should never do politics. Some of his statements against Hindus were embarrassing, and the majority never agreed or took those statements seriously. To the date, there isn't any Hindu, Sikh issue in Punjab. It is always against the center when it comes to major issues. Most Sikhs living in cities go to Hindu Temples as well. Kps Gill is hated for human rights issues. 10s of thousands of innocent sikhs were killed and burnt/dumped in rivers under KPS gill. Just a data of 2-3 years in 1 district for unidentified bodies gathered from cremation grounds gave number of 7000, and punjab had 14-15 districts at the time. Later, that activist was also abducted and killed by police. KS Brar is not hated as such but he isn't liked due to his role in operation blue star. I personally feel he was just doing his duty. Fact of matter, even Brother of Bhindrawala was doing his duty outside golden temple during operation, who was also in the army. Killing Suri was unfortunate and a big failure of police to protect him. Though he was no Saint, he gave statements like "killing sikhs" and taking sikh women when everyone goes aboard. When killed, he was protesting against another Hindu organization, which was running the temple some operational issues, not any Hindu sikh issue. There are 2-3% radicals in both the religions, but they are on the fringes. One fringe support Simarjeet Mann's Akali Dal, other supports BJP. So, in short, most of the issues in Punjab are created by central and state governments of the time for some political benefit. Also, Tavleen indicated as well, practical or prudence are the last words you associate with Jat Sikhs. They are not RSS who plan for decades ahead. If tomorrow BJP announce Hindu Rastra you will see the "prudent attitude" of Sikh as well as majority of Hindus.
@@brar1320 did the Sikhs drop from the sky? I have heard the history of Sikhs from a Sikh. In case you are not aware of this, the elder son of the hindu family became sikh to protect the Hindus from the Islamic invaders. The Sikhs seem to have forgotten this. Their ancestors were Hindus. Just like the "M" community the Sikhs are behaving like they have no connection with the Hindus. The problem with both these communities is that they only know one thing barbarism. They are just so ignorant. The only thing they know is taking up weapons and killing Hindus!
Na that's not happening we are thankful to have a party which follows exponential appeasement model.The more u push the more they appease.U RW can do nothing no amount of online comments can change the conventional narrative .Sit back and vote for sweet secular bhajpa else continue ranting on social media for life
Akali leader Tara Singh was in fact a Hindu Nank Chand Malhotra , planted into the Sikhs by Pandit MM Malviya and Pandit Kaul, Principal of Khalsa College, Amritsar . He refused all the offers of political power/state by the British rulers and Mr Jinnah in 1946-47 ! Read an article, titled KHALISTAN ; LET US KEEP OUR COOL , in the Indian Express by ICS Officer Hardit Singh Malik in November, 1981 ! Also read Lok Sabha speech of Cambridge educated Kapur Singh of 6th September, 1966 ! Jatt Sikhs are nearly 70 % of the total Sikh population and Arora-Khatri Sikhs are only 5 and 2 % respectively! Tara Singh a Hindu who ruled/misruled for over 40 years ! During the SAME PERIOD, Pakistan WAS BUSY fighting in Afghanistan on behalf of the USA !!!
The news paper and the article you are giving reference to were also written by Khalistan supporters without any substance to their claims. And a news paper article is just a hearsay and so is the book.
I am from a jat Sikh farmer family in Punjab. I second Tavleen's "appreciation" of chauvinist mentality of our community. Btw KPS Gill was also a Jat Sikh.So was Bhindranwaley & So is Amritpal Singh, so was our national hero Shaheed Bhagat Singh 😅 Btw I seriously feel this "Amritpal phenomenon" is a repeat of Indira Gandhi 's playbook - Central agencies trying to stir trouble in Punjab, create a problem which then can be "countered" by "strong" Modi govt to win votes around India Over "nationalism" . Btw I am a staunch nationalist, support most of Modi govt policies. But we can see through what central govt is attempting to achieve in Punjab.
You have too narrow view of BJP. They would never try to break the historical bond between Hindus and Sikh just for a state election. Indira was evil, was in bed with islamists and communists. Not the same with Modi.
@@lopu8000 mighty Indian state ( all govts and security + Intel agencies) failing to nab a fugitive despite trailing him all along, could only mean either of the two things - either it's full of shear incompetence or its "compromised" with the fugitive. And the way our media - especially the "nationalist media" built this Amritpal guy up, the way agencies have been giving him a free pass has been so easy to spot i.e. the political motives & strategy in play of "powers that be"
@@jasha9sandhu yeah okay but with these types of hypothesis. There is nothing absolute. What you are trying to prove is really good to the ears. But na you can never prove that. And yeah mostly Punjab government has taken actions so it's good to them more. Some people do say that 'now kejriwal has entered Punjab now it will be easy for them to make khalistan'. It helps AAP more and cancels that narrative. And i don't think Modi will get votes for how he or his government has handled the Punjab situation.
I don't think it's modi plan to raise khalistan issue ,bjp has seen those havoc of those times , how congress used bhindrawala and then he went out of their hand ,so I don't see any connection, it is conspiracy theories only , infact we can see aap party people with khalistani guys ,
Painting entire Jaat Sikhs with single brush is so wrong. I am not denying that the majority of the khalistani were Jaat Sikhs but there were also the Rajput Sikhs and Sikhs from other caste too. We should refrain from making swiping statements.
Shekhar Gupta mentioned in one of his shows that Tavleen Singh was the one journalist who wasn't in awe off Bhindranwale and wasn't bullied by him. Frankly, that is one fact of redemption for Ms. Singh, who is otherwise absolute crap all the time in all circumstances. Frankly even Hindus aren't feeling bullied by either Bhindranwale old or Bhindranwale new. But we sure are trying to find our way out of secularism. I wonder if you realised that the very condescending outlook bordering on contempt for Hindus is as prominent in Tavleen Singh and the other Indian "secular" elites as it probably is amongst the Pakistanis? Hostility towards Hinduness is a shared trait of both the Pakistani as well as Indian elites post 1947. At 53:00,:there is a reference to "ohh, there are some Hindutva lunatics ....blah blah". Well, there may be some Hindutva lunatics running around, but lunacy is the very core of secularism. I can't speak for others, but I am done with secularism, which flowered and will flower in India solely dur to Hindus. But a notion of reciprocity and mutuality is a must.
@@tanveercheema3802 In 1947 when India re-emerged after partition, all Hindus hoped for was that at last they can breathe free and breathe easy after being under seige for centuries first from Islamic invaders and then from Christian colonisers The memo on secularism said all religions and communities will be able to live with freedom. I want the "all" to include Hindus also. Secularism leans on the shoulders of Hindus but pretends they are subduing a Hindu monster. Secularism wants Hindus to be a put up as a punching bag, where everyone who declares himself to be "not a Hindu " can have a go at. Secularism has no legs to stand on its own. This is a secularism which couldn't get itself to stand against 'sar tan se juda', which encourages Hijab simultaneously as it mocks Ghoonghat, It is all for Christian evangelisation of Hindu communities. And now it has got Sikhs as the latest entrants to have a go against Hindus. That is all there is to it. Actually it would be good if all Christians and Muslims and Sikhs also genuinely become secular instead of the Sham which passes for secularism.
@@viswanathanseshadri1047 What do you mean I dont get it every religious minority is secular sikhs dont a theocracy nor do otheres except for a radical mintority ?
I don't think punjabis are hated in India, my friends are hindu and sikh punjabi and believe me with them I enjoyed the most , yes there is machismo thing but with more development and industries we can overcome this behavior, I wouldn't compare punjabi pakistani with out indian punjabi at all , Zameen aasman ka farq hai
We are are hated on social media,more so by erudite Intellectuals who got nothing to do with Bhajpa and rss but are Trad wingers who are brainwashed by true Indology,Sai Deepak,Sanjay Dixit types
ye kaunsa Talveen Singh fan base hai yaha? Lol. I am not against it, but goddamn, just the sheer amount of comments praising her. And then there's a Khalistani delusional roaming around the comment section, so that's there. And some people are confused about her politics; sums it up, Ig. Now you won't have to scroll through the comment section, and as a token of gratitude, UPI Kushal Rs. 1.
Although I was student of Panjab University in 70ties at Chandigarh and remember the time and events.Always knew he was product Congress and Giani Zail Singh helped him.Only today I came to know from Tavleen Singh that it was Sanjay Gandhi, quite revealing.Very ENLIGHTENING and refreshing.
I was waiting for him to match the description of your video which connects bhindranwale to khalistan with this stupid woman and sorry i couldn't find it
Both are butcher ….Have u ever heard any saint wanted to kill 5000 innocent people … now please don’t justify the act by giving foolish reasons …. Any saint won’t ever talk about killing no matter the reason
Sant jarnail singh bhindrawa;e was great indeed. Your subramanium swami gets it moreover listen to the speeches before forming a prejudice. Or stay brainwashed by hindu media idgaf
5:47 She says Bhindrawale copied Guru Gobind Singh It is Prohibited in Sikh Religion to Play the Role of Gurus It is only allowed in Hinduism where we can Play the Lord Ram Krishna and Shiva in Ramleela and TV Serials. So if Bhindrawale try to copied Guru Gobind Singh ji then why no Sikhs that time protest against him .
so he was right the lady who plucks her eyebrows lol first time i am hearing such a comment where bhindranwale thought he was guru himself fanatical thinking lol what drug is she on
I could not help but laugh at the fact that much of bhindrawala’s ideology on keeping your hair was all because this one woman plucks her eyebrows 😂😂😂😂😂
Which is GOI, can't tell if you're being negationist or something else but Khalistan is hatred for Hindus, what else would be the treatment of a Hindu Power in Supremacy if they come face to face with it ? That's what happened in Delhi
Shabaig Singh was in touch with Pakistan's isi folks army used some other way to throw him to save the image of Indian army it was politics but good politics
Why the General Shabigh Singh ---- who created Mukthi Bahini, was Removed from Army ??? Tell the story . Was he the One who planted hate for Hindus or for the Indian State within Bhindrennwale ??
All people who are not from punjab have gone crazy over Sant Bhindrawale and Khalistan issue. Nobody can ever understand what Sant ji and other devotees like Bhai Amritpal Singh did for Sikhi and issues of Punjab. I dont know what the hell these reporters have in their mind to tell an ardent and true religious preacher the creation of bloody politicians?!!!! Why isn’t there anybody in hinduism or islam created by BJP or CONGRESS or any other political party??? Why Punjab is always targeted when somebody comes up to speak for its issues and the injustices done to it every single second?? We don’t give a shit to what these people of our Sant ji and Bhai Amritpal singh. We love them we just adore them because they spoke for us not you.
When Tavleen said, it was easy to Convert Bhindrennwale ,to give up Terrorism and make a Politician , but Indira and political parties didnt, she says, -- they were wishing something to happen . ***I Guess, she wanted Tough response so that she CAN WIN 1985 Elections .. Congress Politics as usual
Today Mr channan sidhu also tells everybody this that khalsa was born not because of Muslim but because of Hindus all fight was between Hindu and Muslim So why these so called Hindu rakshak blabber so much if you were a constraint born
It was all going fine until she said poor little umar khalid 😂
Bomb ka gola hsi vo jihadi🤣🤣🤣Sharjeel Imamu bhi.
😂😂😂
Atankwadi kutiya hamesha atankwadi pille ka sath hi degi.
Umar Khalid isn't Muslim. So why this hate?
What is he then?? @@SatyaPriyadarshi-qp4dp
She was just a Barkha Dutt of that time.
She just said burkha dutt is a good reporter and he nodded 😮😂
There's some similarity, but she was milles ahead in terms of access and Pakistan affair... She was a friend of Sonia Gandhi... And had a child with a Pakistani elite called Salman Taseer (who later became the governor of Pakistani Punjab and assassinated)
She is 100 times better than barkha .....
@@micheal6803 that is why more dangerous
She has written quite a bit on the plight of hindus in Punjab and what they went through in the 80s and 90s...not a fan of her...but learn to take things from context ....not everything is black and white
She has neither continuity nor coherence in her narration and she is more interested in maintaining her accent.
I can understand that, I'd suggest you to watch other documentaries, like BBC Hindi's Vivechana and Shekhar Gupta's 4 episode series on Bhindrawale. I know all three of them are leftists(including BBC outlet) but just give it a watch for information purposes and you'll understand or I'd say have a lot more clarity over what Tavleen's trying to narrate here.
Shout out to Tavleen as she gave unvarnished viewpoint for this K stan history and holds her head high like Punjabi Sikh lady with no fear. Mass respects
Sab kuch fake hai yaar 😂
No fear, No logic either.
sarkari kutaa 😂
he is a liberal he is in the list of gaddars of the sikhs
right
@@harshdeepsingh8211
So much historical inaccuracies, may be due to old age 😅.
Please don't bring her again...the kind of false equivalence she draws between RSS and SGPC is deplorable. She tacitly supports the agenda of ISI.
This was a good podcast episode. Thank you both!
Since Amritpal escape story surfaced, many media channels have had pundits on who have categorically said that Bhindranwale was Indira Gandhi's creation who then got 2 Big for his boots and had to be removed by her police. Till now nobody has even ever mentioned Sanjay Gandhi's name. And throughout the period since independence Akalis have been the biggest enemies of Punjab. We all saw how they spurned the farmers protests because they wanted to keep making large sums in the Mandis.
She's one of the most remarkable woman that India has produced in post-Independence era of India
Few days ago on Barkha Dutt's Mojo Story, Tavleen Singh Ma'am was suggesting Indian and Punjab Govt to have a talk with Amritpal over this Khalistan Resurgence ! 😂 Her POV was completely discarded by all the 5 eminent panelists, she has clearly lost the touch with reality.
She's a complete but job who makes no sense one minute she says he's not a terrorist next min she says he's killed tonnes of sikhs? Well what is it?
That's what she is. Situation ke hisab se logic bdl lena
That was a very informative session. Thank you, Kushal & Tavleen ji!
Sikh student leader who Tavleen tried to remember, at 32:29 was President of All India Sikh Students Federation Amrik Singh.
Tavleen ji ka camera quality sahi hai khushal bhaiya apke face pe kuch jada hi light
She does this for a living. TV crew of ndtv and other news channels make arrangements for panel members so that they appear near on a debate.
Kushal lives off his father's money, so has to make do with diy stuff.
@@roman5782father's money 😂😂
45:36 so basically, she is implying that modi(bjp) have created amritpal?
And "poor umar khalid"??😂
I think it was probably a joke.
Always a pleasure listening to Tavleenji
lack of knowledge is very dangerous thing, Tavleen you need to study sri guru granth sahib alot more to understand what is right or wrong
In terms of her journalism she lacks the basic ability to research facts and present them. Instead she presents racist and biased view points of her own. Not really journalism
Lol you both sitting here making fun of Sikhism.
Wish you said something about her “poor umar Khalid” jibe. And her blanket anti hindutva rant
Tavleen before used to say good things about BJP & then her son was refused visas to India because he had written a false piece on Modi and India. His allegiance has always been with Pakistan, being the son of a Pakistani man, although he is supposed to have been brought up by his maternal grandmother. And since this incident Tavleen has become anti BJP & Modi. If she was that fair she would have condemned what her son did and continued to support BJP.
This was the moment where she understood how totalitarian and intolerant BJP is
Kuch likh diya against to visa reject kr diya, waah bhai!!
1st of all Tavleen have neutral view.
2nd the material of her son's piece isn't that bad.He actually praise him in many places in that piece but if someone only see the cover page & heading of the magazine the think it's only a hits piece against modi. It's tell the quality of PMO stuff. After that fiasco her son started writing hit piece against Modi more blatantly.
She does not know anything about Sufis and to say Sikh gurus had created a Sufi panth is crazy.
Her brain is fully fried Guru Nanak had a sudi friend called Baba freieed ji but Sikhism is the same as sufism
Punjab cannot prosper unless businesses invest in it. Meanwhile, Punjab is overly communalized by the Sikhs, scaring off businesses. Alkalis did no favors at all. In his naivety and desire for fame, Bhinderawale further ruined Punjab. 20 years from now, when drugs have finished the youth, what will happen?
Punjab was destroyed by Nehru and mainly indhira gandhi, read some history first.
Tavleen respects from all over but sadly don't see respects for punjabi.Panjabis are very educated with yourselves going and asking him straight way you took money from Congress that comes from panjabiat
I like how she says Pindrawale
32.40 The student leader was Amrik Singh, i think..
Another Classic!!! Tavleen is an ocean of information and knowledge of the times.
Kaun sa ocean Indian Ocean or Pind ocean... 😁😁😆
@@koul09876 salman taseer ocean
She’s an overzealous ambitious type who thinks she’s a expert. I can’t stand these type of people. Listening to this was awful.
Dam! she is so open about what she actually thinks. I've hardly seen an old school reporter being so blunt.
Umar khalid is no bechara. 🥱
she's gori barkha dutt
She is being sarcastic, she means why is Deep Sidhu given bail, if Umar Khalid deserves to be jailed so does Deep Sidhu...
Hi Tavleen ma'am, I respect your a lot. However, Aatish despises India and has some kind of love for his father's killers. His response to the Nupur Sharma incident is a classic example. How had this come tobe? Please advise 🙏
So now she suddenly trying to be this side, though having a son with Pakistani. And the son writes anti India articles, atleast he's true'Pakistani. Inka, na idhar na udhar, like most indian elites, and netas.
The correct name is Bhundran wala. The one whose Bhund ran because it was leaky.
Honestly Kushal better than this you could have brought the ex Khakistani who appeared on Vaad a few days ago.
Awesome ❤
Student Leader - Amrik Singh @kushal
I followed her work for long she is is no different than barkha ,just go and research her work
Burkha Dutt ki Gurumaa, Tavleen Singh is insinuating that BJP is aiding Amrit pal for 2024 election.
She took a U turn against BJP after her Putra moh incident.
Oddly, Amrit Pal situation has brought Tavleen back in limelight.
Are you suggesting that she is somehow involved with Amritpal so that she gets back some relevance? She had become quite obscure since the son's incident.
Its Amit Shah who wanted Kejri to arrest Amrit Pal
@@sandeepbhatt1354 Nehru Gandhi Vadra dynasties have been really bad for India. From the very beginning they have sold out India to others, not allowed any infra structure development of any significance, brought in changes unilaterally only affecting Hindus, throughout have appeased the peacefools who are showing their true colours. The peacefools were never restricted unlike the Hindus. Islam and Christian religions have no restrictions placed on them but Hindu religions and Hindus have and the Congis have the gall to call India secular when they have been the most discriminatory against the Hindus. Congis brought in the "Places of Worship Act" in 1991. Then they brought in the Waqf Act 1995. The M community is using this act to usurp land and property that has never belonged to them.
This host is very biased and actually pretty dumb.
Poor little umar khalid 🤡🤡😂😂😂
Thats all lie
The Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims - Na Hum Hindu Na Missalmann
True now sikhs are christian
Great podcast. Tavleen Singh has a wonderful grasp of Punjab's politics and speaks so honestly and bravely.
I'm loving new logo
How you can say so confidently that bhindrawale said “ sikh kaum mnu kde manff ni kru gi” were you there because all who were there say he went out to bow down to Darbar sahib and nishan sahib for last time.
I don’t know anything about this lady but she sounds very nice. Her accent is clear and confident and she has a nice voice.
Kushal, you are not even trying to hide your hate towards Jatt Sikhs. I am Jatt Sikh and I love my country. Please don't put us all Jatt Sikhs in the same basket as those fanatics.
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok
I feel pity for you brother. Is it really that easy to rile up sheepsLikeYou?
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok WTF, bro? Please go for a mental health checkup. I think you need it. I am saying this out of concern, not to mock you. Please take care of yourself, don't stress up much about this. Any government, including those who appease a particular community, will crush any protest by the same community that's too damaging to their state because it's economically just too damaging to them. As much as votes matter to them, money does, too. So stay calm, and please go and have a session with a trained practitioner.
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok keep you knickers on bro no one wants violence, there should be a dialogue tho between amritpal and the central gov on the grievances the Punjabi people have endured over the years
@@tanveercheema3802 Come on, man, he wants to fight you. He said, "Get your swords ready." So don't take him lightly. Also, find a way to make up for the deficit in SGPC's budget after his recent boycott of Sikhs.
Also, Amritpal is no one to talk on Punjab's behalf. If he makes a party and stands in an election, his party will get fewer votes than Simranjeet Singh Mann's party.
@@AnshulKumar-gi8ok bakchod ho kya tm
Wow, Kushal this was incredible to hear it from the horse’s Louth itself 👏👏👏
Keep doing these kinds of podcasts, then hopefully I will never to come back to your channel...
Surprisingly low viewership - probably THE BEST Carvaka podcast ever!
53:24 - who pliagarised whom ? Yana Mir ? Kushal Mehra. - he literally said the exact same thing that yana did a few months back 😂
I love when Tavleen ji condescends 😅
Every other gurudwara in Punjab has photos of bhindranwale being venerated......Hindus outside Punjab don't know much I guess....majority of the Sikhs in punjab support bhindranwale but are prudent enough not to go against India as they have realised it's not practical to do so
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As bhindranwale famously said that he would take khalistan if given on a platter but won't fight for it...this is the thought process followed by majority of Sikhs
.as per Sikhs being in army and patriotic: ks brar and kps Gill are hated in Punjab throughout, shahbeg Singh who led khalistanis during operation blue star was a 1971 veteran, I bet this man is more loved than ks brar ... ..many of the non Punjabis don't know about the systematic cleansing and exodus of hindus which happened in many places in Punjab during 80s and 90s.......a Hindu man was lynched in gurdaspur two years ago for drinking water in a gurudwara..
Temple.desecration is a regular affair in Punjab...last year Patiala temple was desecrated.
Political murders of Shiv Sena members are common.
Last year a leader namely Suri was murdered in broad daylight for protesting against be-adabi against Hindu temples...so my point is on the fellow so called pro Hindus from non - Punjabi states...stop licking their boots
So Hindus are not safe anywhere in India. They will be attacked by the peacefuls and the Sikhs
The whole lot of bullshit is added to isolated incidents.
There is a respect for Bhindrawala in Punjab due to his opposition of Nirankaris and other religious issues of the time, and finally got portrayed as Martyr after 1984. He was not a person to settle political issues, religious leader should never do politics. Some of his statements against Hindus were embarrassing, and the majority never agreed or took those statements seriously. To the date, there isn't any Hindu, Sikh issue in Punjab. It is always against the center when it comes to major issues. Most Sikhs living in cities go to Hindu Temples as well.
Kps Gill is hated for human rights issues. 10s of thousands of innocent sikhs were killed and burnt/dumped in rivers under KPS gill. Just a data of 2-3 years in 1 district for unidentified bodies gathered from cremation grounds gave number of 7000, and punjab had 14-15 districts at the time. Later, that activist was also abducted and killed by police.
KS Brar is not hated as such but he isn't liked due to his role in operation blue star. I personally feel he was just doing his duty. Fact of matter, even Brother of Bhindrawala was doing his duty outside golden temple during operation, who was also in the army.
Killing Suri was unfortunate and a big failure of police to protect him. Though he was no Saint, he gave statements like "killing sikhs" and taking sikh women when everyone goes aboard. When killed, he was protesting against another Hindu organization, which was running the temple some operational issues, not any Hindu sikh issue.
There are 2-3% radicals in both the religions, but they are on the fringes. One fringe support Simarjeet Mann's Akali Dal, other supports BJP.
So, in short, most of the issues in Punjab are created by central and state governments of the time for some political benefit.
Also, Tavleen indicated as well, practical or prudence are the last words you associate with Jat Sikhs. They are not RSS who plan for decades ahead. If tomorrow BJP announce Hindu Rastra you will see the "prudent attitude" of Sikh as well as majority of Hindus.
@@brar1320 did the Sikhs drop from the sky? I have heard the history of Sikhs from a Sikh. In case you are not aware of this, the elder son of the hindu family became sikh to protect the Hindus from the Islamic invaders.
The Sikhs seem to have forgotten this. Their ancestors were Hindus. Just like the "M" community the Sikhs are behaving like they have no connection with the Hindus. The problem with both these communities is that they only know one thing barbarism. They are just so ignorant. The only thing they know is taking up weapons and killing Hindus!
Na that's not happening we are thankful to have a party which follows exponential appeasement model.The more u push the more they appease.U RW can do nothing no amount of online comments can change the conventional narrative .Sit back and vote for sweet secular bhajpa else continue ranting on social media for life
@@brar1320 well said, i don't see why the nationalists or central gov can't just have a dialogue on the issues the punjabis face
The dp is dope. Swamy Kushalanand. 👌😅
Akali leader Tara Singh was in fact a Hindu Nank Chand Malhotra , planted into the Sikhs by Pandit MM Malviya and Pandit Kaul, Principal of Khalsa College, Amritsar . He refused all the offers of political power/state by the British rulers and Mr Jinnah in 1946-47 ! Read an article, titled KHALISTAN ; LET US KEEP OUR COOL , in the Indian Express by ICS Officer Hardit Singh Malik in November, 1981 ! Also read Lok Sabha speech of Cambridge educated Kapur Singh of 6th September, 1966 !
Jatt Sikhs are nearly 70 % of the total Sikh population and Arora-Khatri Sikhs are only 5 and 2 % respectively! Tara Singh a Hindu who ruled/misruled for over 40 years !
During the SAME PERIOD, Pakistan WAS BUSY fighting in Afghanistan on behalf of the USA !!!
The news paper and the article you are giving reference to were also written by Khalistan supporters without any substance to their claims. And a news paper article is just a hearsay and so is the book.
Great discussion kushal
I am from a jat Sikh farmer family in Punjab. I second Tavleen's "appreciation" of chauvinist mentality of our community.
Btw KPS Gill was also a Jat Sikh.So was Bhindranwaley & So is Amritpal Singh, so was our national hero Shaheed Bhagat Singh 😅
Btw I seriously feel this "Amritpal phenomenon" is a repeat of Indira Gandhi 's playbook - Central agencies trying to stir trouble in Punjab, create a problem which then can be "countered" by "strong" Modi govt to win votes around India Over "nationalism" . Btw I am a staunch nationalist, support most of Modi govt policies. But we can see through what central govt is attempting to achieve in Punjab.
Don’t go by conspiracy theories
You have too narrow view of BJP. They would never try to break the historical bond between Hindus and Sikh just for a state election. Indira was evil, was in bed with islamists and communists. Not the same with Modi.
@@lopu8000 mighty Indian state ( all govts and security + Intel agencies) failing to nab a fugitive despite trailing him all along, could only mean either of the two things - either it's full of shear incompetence or its "compromised" with the fugitive. And the way our media - especially the "nationalist media" built this Amritpal guy up, the way agencies have been giving him a free pass has been so easy to spot i.e. the political motives & strategy in play of "powers that be"
@@jasha9sandhu yeah okay but with these types of hypothesis. There is nothing absolute. What you are trying to prove is really good to the ears. But na you can never prove that. And yeah mostly Punjab government has taken actions so it's good to them more. Some people do say that 'now kejriwal has entered Punjab now it will be easy for them to make khalistan'. It helps AAP more and cancels that narrative. And i don't think Modi will get votes for how he or his government has handled the Punjab situation.
I don't think it's modi plan to raise khalistan issue ,bjp has seen those havoc of those times ,
how congress used bhindrawala and then he went out of their hand ,so I don't see any connection, it is conspiracy theories only ,
infact we can see aap party people with khalistani guys ,
Painting entire Jaat Sikhs with single brush is so wrong. I am not denying that the majority of the khalistani were Jaat Sikhs but there were also the Rajput Sikhs and Sikhs from other caste too. We should refrain from making swiping statements.
Such a dream podcast..Tavleen singh❤
Bhindranwale a gentleman ?? Kushal seriously ?? You are screwed up.😕
"Gentle man"
Shekhar Gupta mentioned in one of his shows that Tavleen Singh was the one journalist who wasn't in awe off Bhindranwale and wasn't bullied by him.
Frankly, that is one fact of redemption for Ms. Singh, who is otherwise absolute crap all the time in all circumstances.
Frankly even Hindus aren't feeling bullied by either Bhindranwale old or Bhindranwale new. But we sure are trying to find our way out of secularism.
I wonder if you realised that the very condescending outlook bordering on contempt for Hindus is as prominent in Tavleen Singh and the other Indian "secular" elites as it probably is amongst the Pakistanis? Hostility towards Hinduness is a shared trait of both the Pakistani as well as Indian elites post 1947.
At 53:00,:there is a reference to "ohh, there are some Hindutva lunatics ....blah blah".
Well, there may be some Hindutva lunatics running around, but lunacy is the very core of secularism.
I can't speak for others, but I am done with secularism, which flowered and will flower in India solely dur to Hindus. But a notion of reciprocity and mutuality is a must.
Well said mate, thought I'd disagree with you until i read it through
What are you gonna replace secularism with? Do you want india to become a Hindu version of Pakistan which is a complete failed state ?
@@tanveercheema3802 In 1947 when India re-emerged after partition, all Hindus hoped for was that at last they can breathe free and breathe easy after being under seige for centuries first from Islamic invaders and then from Christian colonisers The memo on secularism said all religions and communities will be able to live with freedom. I want the "all" to include Hindus also. Secularism leans on the shoulders of Hindus but pretends they are subduing a Hindu monster. Secularism wants Hindus to be a put up as a punching bag, where everyone who declares himself to be "not a Hindu " can have a go at. Secularism has no legs to stand on its own. This is a secularism which couldn't get itself to stand against 'sar tan se juda', which encourages Hijab simultaneously as it mocks Ghoonghat, It is all for Christian evangelisation of Hindu communities. And now it has got Sikhs as the latest entrants to have a go against Hindus. That is all there is to it. Actually it would be good if all Christians and Muslims and Sikhs also genuinely become secular instead of the Sham which passes for secularism.
@@viswanathanseshadri1047 What do you mean I dont get it every religious minority is secular sikhs dont a theocracy nor do otheres except for a radical mintority ?
I don't think punjabis are hated in India, my friends are hindu and sikh punjabi and believe me with them I enjoyed the most ,
yes there is machismo thing but with more development and industries we can overcome this behavior,
I wouldn't compare punjabi pakistani with out indian punjabi at all ,
Zameen aasman ka farq hai
We are are hated on social media,more so by erudite Intellectuals who got nothing to do with Bhajpa and rss but are Trad wingers who are brainwashed by true Indology,Sai Deepak,Sanjay Dixit types
ye kaunsa Talveen Singh fan base hai yaha? Lol. I am not against it, but goddamn, just the sheer amount of comments praising her. And then there's a Khalistani delusional roaming around the comment section, so that's there. And some people are confused about her politics; sums it up, Ig.
Now you won't have to scroll through the comment section, and as a token of gratitude, UPI Kushal Rs. 1.
What's her politics
I do not agree with bhindrawale ideology but you are not the best and know situation.
At 27.50 what is the meaning of sentence?
Swami Kushal Mehra finally.
Very Informative
Love your Podcast Kushal 👌🤗
Although I was student of Panjab University in 70ties at Chandigarh and remember the time and events.Always knew he was product Congress and Giani Zail Singh helped him.Only today I came to know from Tavleen Singh that it was Sanjay Gandhi, quite revealing.Very ENLIGHTENING and refreshing.
Tavleen Singh is one of the few independent voices we have out there. Good to hear her opinion on this.
I was waiting for him to match the description of your video which connects bhindranwale to khalistan with this stupid woman and sorry i couldn't find it
We in India have too.mich of Punjabi Culture, army Domination.
We need to reduce it
Sodi sewa hoyi ni kada , koii ni lagju pata educated foxes ..
@kushal it was “ bharwatte munnan waaliaan “ pluck eye brows type.
Anti sikh through out the podcast. Dharmas of all kind is revered in sikhi, doesn't mean they were "hindu"
good conversation but how would you say bhindrawale a butcher. he never killed a single man . he was saheed . a real butcher is kps gilll
Both are butcher ….Have u ever heard any saint wanted to kill 5000 innocent people … now please don’t justify the act by giving foolish reasons …. Any saint won’t ever talk about killing no matter the reason
I started listening to this & in the first 6 minutes, she said so many lies😂😂
Nice DP
नौकरी ना होने पर अलग देश की मांग करने से इश्यू सॉल्व हो जाता है
Great job, Shekhar gupta try to portray bhindi as religious and with principle. Same way Bollywood shows his villains
Sant jarnail singh bhindrawa;e was great indeed. Your subramanium swami gets it moreover listen to the speeches before forming a prejudice. Or stay brainwashed by hindu media idgaf
Kushal is doing great work introducing these Gems of people to various sects of people.
Very informative 👌👌
Excellent and very relevant interview with Tavleen! It makes so much sense!
Ohhh wow ❤
Everything went well until ‘Bharkha, best reporter’ really?
Awesome wholesome podcast. Thanks 🙏 . Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Kushal how u managed to bring tavleen to ur show? So u r big time now. Hahahahahaha
Surprised that she accepted an invite to talk here at all, given the right leaning nature of topics discussed here
Poor little umar khalid😂
5:47 She says Bhindrawale copied Guru Gobind Singh
It is Prohibited in Sikh Religion to Play the Role of Gurus
It is only allowed in Hinduism where we can Play the Lord Ram Krishna and Shiva in Ramleela and TV Serials.
So if Bhindrawale try to copied Guru Gobind Singh ji then why no Sikhs that time protest against him .
so he was right the lady who plucks her eyebrows lol first time i am hearing such a comment where bhindranwale thought he was guru himself fanatical thinking lol what drug is she on
She’s clearly a hater
I could not help but laugh at the fact that much of bhindrawala’s ideology on keeping your hair was all because this one woman plucks her eyebrows 😂😂😂😂😂
It was not taking on GOI it is taking on the govt. in delhi / Red fort like it was in old days of Mughals ...
Which is GOI, can't tell if you're being negationist or something else but Khalistan is hatred for Hindus, what else would be the treatment of a Hindu Power in Supremacy if they come face to face with it ? That's what happened in Delhi
Excellent podcast. Thanks so much, Kushal ji and Tavleen ji
🔖 There was support for Terrorism but Not Khalistan??
What does this mean ??
She was saying that they were unknowingly supporting terrorism althought they thought they were supporting Sikhism
Shabaig Singh was in touch with Pakistan's isi folks army used some other way to throw him to save the image of Indian army it was politics but good politics
Sharm krlo sharm sachhi
Why the General Shabigh Singh ---- who created Mukthi Bahini, was Removed from Army ???
Tell the story .
Was he the One who planted hate for Hindus or for the Indian State within Bhindrennwale ??
How did we create Hatred for Hindus he was a hero of the Indian Army, even the key player of giving Bangledesh Liberation from Pakistan
All people who are not from punjab have gone crazy over Sant Bhindrawale and Khalistan issue. Nobody can ever understand what Sant ji and other devotees like Bhai Amritpal Singh did for Sikhi and issues of Punjab. I dont know what the hell these reporters have in their mind to tell an ardent and true religious preacher the creation of bloody politicians?!!!! Why isn’t there anybody in hinduism or islam created by BJP or CONGRESS or any other political party??? Why Punjab is always targeted when somebody comes up to speak for its issues and the injustices done to it every single second?? We don’t give a shit to what these people of our Sant ji and Bhai Amritpal singh. We love them we just adore them because they spoke for us not you.
Kitna jhooth bolegi ye aurat
Tavleen is an extraordinarily brave lady! What a clear thinking strong woman!
When Tavleen said, it was easy to Convert Bhindrennwale ,to give up Terrorism and make a Politician , but Indira and political parties didnt, she says, -- they were wishing something to happen .
***I Guess, she wanted Tough response so that she CAN WIN 1985 Elections ..
Congress Politics as usual
Indira se fatt ti thi sbhi ki😂
Hala ki uske paas topa nhi tha
Pr sbko vo tope pe rkhti thi😆
Today Mr channan sidhu also tells everybody this that khalsa was born not because of Muslim but because of Hindus all fight was between Hindu and Muslim
So why these so called Hindu rakshak blabber so much if you were a constraint born