I've got a k28, and I wish I could have had this guide when I tried it back in 2018- shooting Foma r100 and using the guide to meter my shots, and probably not loading it in dim light.
Mike! Another great cast metal (aluminum, right?) double-8mm camera from the HeyDay of Eisenhower! Man -- spring wound *movie cameras* that still work today! I'm not that old and I barely function! Great to see you running through the features of the cameras like this -- and your sample footage from the various cameras as well! I'd love to see a "behind the scenes" video of the FPP crew of hundreds, uh tens, uh few actually making the "home movies" on double-8mm and Super8mm -- To hear the smooth, clacking purr of the clockwork mechanism at 16fps and see the amazing camera work -- and on-screen talent!!!! :-) Cheers!!!!
well not always ... although who would try to red scale this film. moving film can't imagine. the lomo stuff sure have fun... just remember to scan it the direction one shot it..
It's hard to find vintage "spools only" - you might have to buy a camera kit on eBay. Many cameras did not have the "Film when on this spool is only half exposed" written on the take up. Consider using some white artist tape and make your own label. - Mike
hiii great video, I have the same camera and was looking at the website but im not sure what film is compatible, i dont understand the difference between BW40 and BW100....
Hi Andrea. ISO is film sensitivity to light. For your camera, ISO 40 is the perfect speed. We offer ISO 40 film in both color and BW - filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services/products/double-8-film-bundle-film-develop-scan-25-ft
You know how digital camera sensors convert photons into electricity? Imagine that but the electricity is used to print onto an area of a new kind of film!
I am here in the UK and as of March/April '21 film B&W film is non existence at several sources that has previously carried your film. Are you exporting to UK, or can I buy from you, shipping costs in question.
I picked up one of these models at a recent photo swap meet and it appears to be in very good condition. However, it could probably use some lube and cleaning since it's hella old. Anyone recomend a place that does cleaning/certification/refurbs on these units?
Is that a fixed focus lens on this camera. How does it work to be in focus, is it good from 5 feet to infinity in all aperture settings, is that possible?
The lens in the video is fixed focus. Usually, a depth of field chart was printed in the instruction manual. Keystone and other brands also made D-Mount lenses that were focusable. - Mike
@@FilmPhotographyProject Hi! I am looking up these lenses on Ebay since the camera was found and gifted to me missing the original lens. Do you happen to know the focal length of the one that came with it? Thank you!
What is that weird lever inside pushing on take-up spool?Just so film is kept close to spool or is it tied to Footage counter? PS will you take a look on some of meopta cameras?
There were two types of footage counters in 8mm cameras: geared and "feeler-lever", the former being more expensive to make. Usually top of the line cameras had geared footage counters (such as Bolex) that zeroed themselves automatically when the camera door was opened. Geared footage counters give a more accurate indication of footage shot/footage remaining. The feeler-lever type is fine for amateur cameras, and was used by Kodak in their first 8mm models.
@@jimshulman9221 weird, on first Look, lever Type footage counter seems less expensive(as Just a lever with one small spring) and more precise as it show you how much film has wound almost as you would see it if the camera was from Glass.
@@butlaoctu4464 A geared footage counter is particularly valuable when you come to the end of a roll and want to determine if, indeed, there is still film available for exposure or if it's time to change the roll. The difference of a foot or two is important: whether you're giving up an extra shot because there's still some unexposed film left, or if you're opening the camera too soon and fogging the most recent shot.
I have the turret version of this camera and recently bought some elgeet lenses for it.... but they wont thread in? Are c mounts for cameras in 8mm and 16mm different??
@@FilmPhotographyProject upon more research and examination I realised the lenses are d-mount not c-mount, but for some reason the elgeet d-mount lens I have won't thread into the socket. They look to be the same diameter of the lenses that come with the keystone k-27 which are d-mount. was there some d-mounts with different thread spacing? Or non compatible with certain 8mm camera models?
@@Hydra_studios I have the turret version as well and the instruction manual which specifically points out that the lenses on this camera will not mount on other cameras nor will other 8mm camera lenses mount on this camera. It has strictly proprietary lenses designed only to fit this camera.
@@FilmPhotographyProject u wouldn’t happen to know where I could find a manual or something that tells how to disassemble it? I’ve tried online but couldn’t find one.
i recently got a k-32 olympic keystone, but had no idea where to get any film, so thanks so much for the link!
The Capri is a sweet little camera…. Not the best, but certainly very capable! Thanks
I’ve been considering getting film for my Ciné-Kodak Eight Model 20 for a while. I get all my film from FPP! Thanks for the great content Mike.
Two thumbs up. Thanks so much! - Mike
I've got a k28, and I wish I could have had this guide when I tried it back in 2018- shooting Foma r100 and using the guide to meter my shots, and probably not loading it in dim light.
Mike! Another great cast metal (aluminum, right?) double-8mm camera from the HeyDay of Eisenhower! Man -- spring wound *movie cameras* that still work today! I'm not that old and I barely function! Great to see you running through the features of the cameras like this -- and your sample footage from the various cameras as well! I'd love to see a "behind the scenes" video of the FPP crew of hundreds, uh tens, uh few actually making the "home movies" on double-8mm and Super8mm -- To hear the smooth, clacking purr of the clockwork mechanism at 16fps and see the amazing camera work -- and on-screen talent!!!! :-) Cheers!!!!
I just got this model. It’s great
well not always ... although who would try to red scale this film. moving film can't imagine. the lomo stuff sure have fun... just remember to scan it the direction one shot it..
I own a K28, but it doesn't have the "Film when on this spool is only half exposed" spool. Do you know where i can find one?
It's hard to find vintage "spools only" - you might have to buy a camera kit on eBay. Many cameras did not have the "Film when on this spool is only half exposed" written on the take up. Consider using some white artist tape and make your own label. - Mike
hiii great video, I have the same camera and was looking at the website but im not sure what film is compatible, i dont understand the difference between BW40 and BW100....
Hi Andrea. ISO is film sensitivity to light. For your camera, ISO 40 is the perfect speed. We offer ISO 40 film in both color and BW - filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services/products/double-8-film-bundle-film-develop-scan-25-ft
You know how digital camera sensors convert photons into electricity? Imagine that but the electricity is used to print onto an area of a new kind of film!
Is one side of film equal to 1 wind of the wind arm? Is there any audio with this ?
About 30 seconds per wind. Modern Double 8, Super 8 and 16mm does not record sound.
I have a question do you know where I can get a crank handle my keystone is missing one
I am here in the UK and as of March/April '21 film B&W film is non existence at several sources that has previously carried your film. Are you exporting to UK, or can I buy from you, shipping costs in question.
I picked up one of these models at a recent photo swap meet and it appears to be in very good condition. However, it could probably use some lube and cleaning since it's hella old. Anyone recomend a place that does cleaning/certification/refurbs on these units?
Hi. Sadly, service is no longer available for these vintage gems. If it was, it would be more expensive than sourcing a replacement model on eBay.
With 1 roll complete duration of movie shooting I would like to know. I mean how long you can shoot with one roll?
About 3 minutes total time.
Thank you for the info.
Hi I have one of these do you know if that little button just underneath the viewfinder windows next to the lens (not eye side) does anything?
Not functional. Perhaps for a special case that the K25 can slip into and a leather strap attaches to?
Where is the best place to get 8mm film developed, scanned, etc? Thank you!
filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services (Full disclosure - I'm on the team here) - Mike
Is that a fixed focus lens on this camera. How does it work to be in focus, is it good from 5 feet to infinity in all aperture settings, is that possible?
The lens in the video is fixed focus. Usually, a depth of field chart was printed in the instruction manual. Keystone and other brands also made D-Mount lenses that were focusable. - Mike
@@FilmPhotographyProject Hi! I am looking up these lenses on Ebay since the camera was found and gifted to me missing the original lens. Do you happen to know the focal length of the one that came with it? Thank you!
What is that weird lever inside pushing on take-up spool?Just so film is kept close to spool or is it tied to Footage counter?
PS will you take a look on some of meopta cameras?
The lever is connected to the footage counter.
@@FilmPhotographyProject preety clever.
There were two types of footage counters in 8mm cameras: geared and "feeler-lever", the former being more expensive to make. Usually top of the line cameras had geared footage counters (such as Bolex) that zeroed themselves automatically when the camera door was opened. Geared footage counters give a more accurate indication of footage shot/footage remaining. The feeler-lever type is fine for amateur cameras, and was used by Kodak in their first 8mm models.
@@jimshulman9221 weird, on first Look, lever Type footage counter seems less expensive(as Just a lever with one small spring) and more precise as it show you how much film has wound almost as you would see it if the camera was from Glass.
@@butlaoctu4464 A geared footage counter is particularly valuable when you come to the end of a roll and want to determine if, indeed, there is still film available for exposure or if it's time to change the roll. The difference of a foot or two is important: whether you're giving up an extra shot because there's still some unexposed film left, or if you're opening the camera too soon and fogging the most recent shot.
Hi Mike! I was wondering what to do with used Keystone Twenty 8mm Double 8 film. Can’t find anywhere to get it developed
Hi Cristina. Newly shot - new film...or old film found in the camera? - Mike
I have a Keystone Electric Eye K-4C, does that also only take double-8 film?
It sure does. Double 8 film 25ft rolls - iso 40 or lower.
I just got one of these camcorders, a Capri 27, i have not try out.
Hi... to record during the day with little sun what value should I select on the binoculars: 22 16 11 8 5.6 4 2.8 1.9 f ??
Depends on what your film ISO is. See our Light Meter App video - czcams.com/video/5wwJJSsHu8w/video.html
Do you know what the frame rate of the camera is?
Yes. 16 frames per second. Shutter is set at 1/30th sec.
I have the turret version of this camera and recently bought some elgeet lenses for it.... but they wont thread in? Are c mounts for cameras in 8mm and 16mm different??
16mm are C-Mount and 8mm are smaller D-Mount.
@@FilmPhotographyProject upon more research and examination I realised the lenses are d-mount not c-mount, but for some reason the elgeet d-mount lens I have won't thread into the socket.
They look to be the same diameter of the lenses that come with the keystone k-27 which are d-mount.
was there some d-mounts with different thread spacing? Or non compatible with certain 8mm camera models?
@@Hydra_studios I have the turret version as well and the instruction manual which specifically points out that the lenses on this camera will not mount on other cameras nor will other 8mm camera lenses mount on this camera. It has strictly proprietary lenses designed only to fit this camera.
Where did you get the camera
I seen a few on eBay from $30 - $112
How would I go about a disassembly for one of these?
Carefully.
@@FilmPhotographyProject u wouldn’t happen to know where I could find a manual or something that tells how to disassemble it? I’ve tried online but couldn’t find one.
Why can't Kodachrome film be developed now in 2020 what the hell I mean why wouldn't you want to be able to have that ability