.40 vs .45 vs .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullets | Muzzle-Loaders Podcast Bonus Episode

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  • Today, we are going to discuss which muzzleloader caliber is truly the best!
    With the recent rise in popularity of .40 and .45 caliber muzzleloader bullets, we figured that it's time to give you our thoughts how these calibers stack up against the already established .50 caliber. There are many factors to consider and joining me in this discussion is Chad Schearer of Shoot Straight TV. Chad has decades of experience in muzzleloading and we are excited to share his thoughts on the matter!
    TIME STAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    1:09 50 Caliber
    4:16 45 Caliber
    6:28 40 Caliber
    10:28 Discussion Summary
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Komentáře • 57

  • @joshmatty1077
    @joshmatty1077 Před rokem +4

    I'm from New Mexico, and have hammered big bulls with my TC 50 cal. @ 300 yards with pass through.

    • @johnnewcomb5162
      @johnnewcomb5162 Před rokem

      What are you using for powder and what round?

    • @joshmatty1077
      @joshmatty1077 Před rokem +2

      @johnnewcomb5162 my set is TC encore pro hunting 209x50 120 gr. With a 300 thor bullet I have used a Parker productions as well, did the job but that thor puts a hole in them

  • @williamgregory6684
    @williamgregory6684 Před rokem +17

    I would like to see the basic CVA Wolf, Traditions Buckstalker and Tracker in 40,45,50,54,and 58 calibers.I Would like to see those same platforms in 8,10,12,16 and 20 gauge single barrel shotguns. Wouldn't that be fun and wouldn't break the 🏦 bank

    • @austinlewis3273
      @austinlewis3273 Před rokem +1

      I own a traditions muzzleloader shotgun. 12 gauge

    • @markhall1169
      @markhall1169 Před rokem

      I love new guns boy they'd look sweet 😆 Great idea

  • @GoldenClays1
    @GoldenClays1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have an older model CVA Hunter-Bolt .45 Cal Magnum which I absolutely love. It feels like a regular rifle to me. Recommended Load is 295gr Powerbelt Bullet and 100 Gr of Powder. Good Stuff!

  • @bobbystevens4087
    @bobbystevens4087 Před rokem +10

    I would love to see a 40 caliber in the Acura

  • @sirjhonson8218
    @sirjhonson8218 Před rokem +2

    I have a CVA .45 cal. and a .54 cal. Hawken. I have trouble finding ammo for both. I have to cast and size my own Minnie Ball bullet. They work well. Been working well for me.

  • @cjr4497
    @cjr4497 Před 8 měsíci +1

    In my state a 35 Whelen is a muzzleloader, LOL. I wish we would go back to only actual muzzleloading rifles for the primitive firearms season. The added pressure really took a toll on our public land deer numbers.

  • @Bowdock
    @Bowdock Před 7 měsíci +1

    In my opinion there is a great need to make breakopen guns look and have the feel of Real guns that they really don’t have now. Classic feel with Classic looks!

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 Před rokem +3

    was going to get a Woodman Arms in .40 but just looked up Mass rules. No go ! gotta be a .45 or bigger

  • @barrykrohn2229
    @barrykrohn2229 Před rokem

    Your videos are great very informative but would like to see you guys put together a video of what muzzleloader hunters have to use here in the northwest Oregon, and Idaho as far as your Recommendations on bullets, powder and caps hope you can put together best recommendations even rifle

  • @bignlittleoutdoorstexascam3031

    im a cva original in the early 2000s i loved it wish i would of never let my friend take it out in the rain it killed it he lefed it in his trunk iv thaken deer out to 300 it was amazing acuity 120 loose pyrodex powder and 195 yellow band power belt 209 winchester primer

  • @joeltowle2737
    @joeltowle2737 Před rokem +3

    Inline small caliber for squirrel! Pic rail for scope or red dot.

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 Před 10 dny

    I had my .40 cal made for targets

  • @bobboyer9440
    @bobboyer9440 Před rokem

    I haven't seen this kind of reporting on round ball. Is there a video available?

  • @nmhvactech5474
    @nmhvactech5474 Před rokem +3

    Any plans for CVA to increase the barrel twist speed in the 50 cal Accura’s from 1:28 to something like 1:24 or 1:22 to stabilize the longer ELR type Bullets on the market. I think this would help the 50 cal.
    What’s the max charge for the new Accura LR-x and MR-x rifles using in White Hots or Firestar pellets, Blackhorn 209 powder ( by weight ) ?
    Does CVA and PowerBelt recommend the 50 cal ELR ( 270 gr or 330 gr ) bullets in the Accura rifles?
    FYI I’ll be testing both out of my rifle, but I haven’t seen much info / data on the newer 270 gr bullets.

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  Před rokem +3

      As far as I am aware, CVA does not plan to change the twist rate in the .50 caliber Accuras any time soon.
      CVA Accura Magnum Charges:
      IMR White Hots Pellets: 3 50-grain pellets
      FireStars Pellets: 5 33-grain Pellets
      Blackhorn 209: 84-grains (measured by weight)
      CVA does recommend using the ELR bullet in the .50 caliber Accura models. We have found that you will have better results using a magnum charge with that bullet.

  • @brucelewis1017
    @brucelewis1017 Před rokem +1

    Since cva is coming out with 40 and 45 cal they should bring the 54 cal back in the inline

  • @markhall1169
    @markhall1169 Před rokem +1

    If u had to choose between the Traditions strikerfire vapr or the cva accura mr-x 45 cal. Which 1?

  • @atubeviewer4942
    @atubeviewer4942 Před rokem

    I dont see a CVA link where I can see the ballistics he was referring to. Do you have it?

  • @rooster72886
    @rooster72886 Před 9 měsíci

    I bought a cva 40 cal inline last year got for 150 bucks but my question is do you just put your charge blocks in and then a sabot bullet or do they need that I call em wad that the bullet goes on a 50 cal this is my 1st muzzleloader that isn't a 50 cal so curious so I don't damage anything

  • @nathansmith8969
    @nathansmith8969 Před 10 měsíci

    40 cals are now legal to hunt with in Virginia and looking to drop down from 50 to 45 or 40 as I get older.

  • @soonerfrac4611
    @soonerfrac4611 Před 10 měsíci

    I’d like to see Hornady’s Bore Rider ELD-X in 40 & 45.

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 Před 10 dny

    This .40 caliber is on .54 caliber tc renegade i bought in 1972 when i came back from vietnam,i needed something that was harder to hunt with if you know what i mean

  • @larrycouch560
    @larrycouch560 Před rokem +1

    At 10.08 in this video, what brand/style 209 capper is used?

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  Před rokem

      That is the CVA Magnetic Capper. I will include a link to it below.
      muzzle-loaders.com/products/cvar-variflametm-magnetic-capper-tool-ac1723

  • @kendallfields6185
    @kendallfields6185 Před rokem +1

    Anybody notice the hang fire at 9:12, also at 10:19

  • @metroplexchl
    @metroplexchl Před rokem +1

    Would you use .40 for black bear?

  • @dbzryder
    @dbzryder Před rokem +2

    Any thoughts on an in-line shotgun? Maybe a double barrel in-line shotgun? In some states you are allowed to take dear with a shotgun. I have a double barrel shotgun made by Pedersoli that I take bird hunting and would like to see something offered in an in-line...

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  Před rokem

      There are a few inline shotguns out there currently. Unfortunately, we do not have any on our website but I would recommend checking out the Knight TK2000.

  • @bobbygreen2291
    @bobbygreen2291 Před rokem

    Chad did you recently here that story of the hunter in Mississippi,,he bought the new forty cal CVA,,Took it hunting for the first time ,,got a deer , then turned over his boat and lost all the footage his brand new CVA and everything,, almost died ,,but survived and made a video about it ,,DIY do it yourself hunter

    • @josephlay288
      @josephlay288 Před rokem +1

      Damnit man! If you have a chance post the link to that if dont minds.. Hes deff lucky to be alive. . .🤦 that had to be one of the most costly mistakes if he lost it all! One expensive hunt!

    • @bobbygreen2291
      @bobbygreen2291 Před rokem +1

      @@josephlay288 his you tube channel is called do it yourself hunter in Mississippi

  • @jowhi9296
    @jowhi9296 Před rokem +1

    Can these be used in other muzzleloaders like TC encore

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 Před 10 dny

    How accuret is a .40 caliber round ball

  • @yeetarmyitstimeforgoodtime8958

    I can understand using a .40 or a .50 caliber with bullets but with a round ball and traditional muzzleloader I would use at least a .50

  • @taurushipointenthusiast1306

    Plain lead such as Thompson Centers Cheap Shots out perform all the copper and copper jackets, ME CALIBER NOT SO MUCH, States have their own guidelines, But the bullet choice out of a muzzle loader, In many instances I find plain ol round ball out performing Shock Wave, Power Belts and the like.yeah sure scientifically they out perform round ball, but practically in real world that round ball at 100 yards or less is so much better and more devastating. Now out of a smokeless muzzle loader odds will favor the belted power ball, shock wave and the likes there of, They tend to get the speed and power needed. But hey I mean there is tons of evidence supporting but it aint none of my business

  • @TheBowdoc1
    @TheBowdoc1 Před rokem +2

    Looks like the 40 is dead before it even got out of the gate. I didn’t see a single listing in the 2023 CVA catalog.😕
    Can’t wait to see some videos on the new Paramount V2! I like the stock change. Looks like a different sight on the Colorado edition too.

  • @Phah-Queue
    @Phah-Queue Před rokem +1

    No .44?🤷‍♂️

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 Před 4 měsíci

      Why would they waste their time? No need for a .44 when you have .45 shooting .357 and 40 Cal projectiles

  • @luckyjim51
    @luckyjim51 Před rokem +1

    There is only 50 cal in the stores... to much recoil..!! Dumb....!!

  • @TOPGUNMPD08
    @TOPGUNMPD08 Před 6 měsíci

    The new technology seems great. These new muzzleloaders lòok suspiciously like bolt action center fire rifles. I think im going to pass. My 50 cal shooting 45 cal sabot ftx bullets does everything I need it to do. Im not the guy who needs to extend my effective range past 300yds. The majority of all hunters have no business shooting further anyways.

  • @haoshito5754
    @haoshito5754 Před rokem

    So if .40 can go with speed of 2700 ft/s , and it weighs about 190 grain, it potentially could kill a bear and something more??? Noice

    • @jonathonlang1844
      @jonathonlang1844 Před 6 měsíci

      No potentially, it would do well on most all north american game.

  • @mikel.4885
    @mikel.4885 Před rokem +2

    Stay away from power belts...

    • @bobjoatmon1993
      @bobjoatmon1993 Před rokem

      Why?
      I simply don't understand people who make an accusation but don't explain why. Do you think everyone else is a mind reader and just knows what you think.
      Here's the straight skinny on your type of comment... It impresses nobody and is ignored by everyone because it doesn't help them evaluate anything.

    • @mikel.4885
      @mikel.4885 Před rokem

      @BOB Joatmon power belts are trash they dont group well and if you manage to hit a deer with one they dont leave good blood trails

  • @charliemcelwain8874
    @charliemcelwain8874 Před rokem

    If you don't have flint lock or cap lock u don't have a muzzloder

  • @stephenvalastro5678
    @stephenvalastro5678 Před 11 měsíci

    Why you would use anything less than a 50cal is stupid

  • @Archiballd123
    @Archiballd123 Před 8 měsíci

    I dont get you Americans...Why you use 100grn BP to shot on fire range on 50 m??? I use 50 kal "Hawken" Hunter Pedersoli and i use 48-72 depens of round ball or real or 480grn conical like..( accuracy with biger bp loads it worst) I dont need more ,but you use 100 or 120 bp ( i see even 3x50 pellets of 777) why? I always want to question this... ( sorry for my eng)

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 Před 4 měsíci

      😂😂😂 because you don't know what your shot distance when you see listing your rifle bubba. Keep shooting paper and private game. Real hunting is variable