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And One is phenomenal and about as core to Futurepop as it comes. If you ask yourself what Depeche Mode would have sounded like if the core of the group was an Iranian German, equipped with 21st century synths but the greatest love for 80s proto-darkwave, you'd end up with And One. "Shouts of Joy" is another And One track that is required listening, as well as the entire Bodypop album and "So Klingt Liebe" on that album. Another group Mike & Ginger absolutely need to check out is Ashbury Heights, from Sweden. Anders and Yasmine shocked the futurepop / EBM world with their "Spiders" and had solid hits. Separated for a few years and did independent projects, but are back collaborating. Their cover of The Doors "People are Strange" is the perfection of the leading edge of Futurepop. It's got a beautiful kink twist, a half-distorted reality that speaks to the worldview of us darkwave gnostics who see more of reality's latticework and flaws then those living within the happy aquarium of neoliberal late capital. I should add a music theory/aesthetic theory about futurepop: Have you noticed how its artists play upon the instability of major and minor chords? You'll think you're in a minor key as the song begins only to see a brilliant piercing ray of sunlight shoot through the clouds into a major key, only to return to the minor after the refrain. Futurepop is grounded in the late, late Romantic innovations of Gustav Mahler and a few other composers who sought a way to express a fleeting hope of a better world in the face of almost certain tragedy. Imagine staring down the coming World Wars, knowing there would be extreme death and destruction, but believing somehow that the creativity of humanity still possessed a fleeting chance for making a better world that didn't hurt people. Advance that frame 100 years where our hope is even further diminished but we refuse to give up, as we know that within each of us is a human that merits an ethical life of love and happiness, and somehow we just refuse to quit and give in to the suffocation of the status quo. Depeche Mode pioneered this aesthetic path and we have remarkable artists today that include VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, And One, Ashbury Heights, Mind In A Box (and the associated THYX project), In Strict Confidence, Front Line Assembly, Rotersand, TR/ST, Royksopp, and others who explore this profoundly creative new space in the hopes of uncovering paths for us all that can lead to better ethical worlds. czcams.com/video/6qPub_tHRWw/video.html
This is one of their most emotional songs, along with Beloved and Ghost, I'd say. Absolutely lovely... the kind of music I'd put on when out for a hike, drowning out the rest of the world. If you want a dancy song, try Chrome, Space And Time, Standing, Nemesis.. and like a dozen more.
I really wish you would react to the song "Further" by this band, no one seems to have done it, was my first introduction to them and I love it, I'm sure you would too.
You know the stereotype where teenagers are like "this song really speaks to me"? It's true this song is depressing as hell and it feels like a loved one talking to me
Video and song were touching.... B4 it started I watchet the old color tv. I was the the remote conrol: mom or dad said "change to channel 3..." The social media i full of stupid challenges "and - I dare you! stuff", and ofcourse the perfect modified bodies and faces 😟
this is massage to celebrate difference and stopping with the fear of difference you are unique so stop being someone else or someone that someone else want you to be written after a murder of a girl for being a goth in Brighton UK i believe
You should definitely have a look at the live version of this song from M‘era Luna Festival (It‘s in THE List). I‘ve been there (shot the first three songs) and loved it 😎🤘
I love this song for years. I like it even more without the video! I agree, he has such a haunting voice! You could react to "Mono Inc - If I fail (Symphonic live)! It has kind of the same vibe and is a very beautiful song!
The story behind this track, is actually quite a sad one. This song has been dedicated by Ronin Harris, to Sophie Lancaster, after being murdered. The murder of Sophie Lancaster occurred in England in August 2007. The victim and her boyfriend, Robert Maltby, were attacked by a number of teenage boys while walking through Stubbylee Park in Bacup, Rossendale, Lancashire, on 11 August 2007.[1] As a result of the severe head injuries Lancaster sustained in the attack, she went into a coma from which she never regained consciousness and died of her injuries thirteen days later. The police said the attack may have been linked to the couple wearing gothic fashion and being members of the goth subculture. Five teenage boys were later arrested and charged with murder. Two of them were convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. The other three were convicted and jailed for grievous bodily harm. A memorial fund was established in Lancaster's name, and numerous events have paid tribute to her locally, nationally and internationally. Plays, films, art and books have covered the issues surrounding the murder. "Background" Sophie Lancaster (born 26 November 1986) was a former pupil at Bacup and Rawtenstall Grammar School and Haslingden High School, and a gap year student planning to attend Accrington and Rossendale College to do an English degree. She had been dating Robert Maltby, a 21-year-old art student from Manchester, for three years, and they both had a long-standing attachment to the goth subculture. The couple's family described them as "Goths", and said: "They're both intelligent, sensitive kids. They're not the sort of people to get in trouble, but they have had problems in the past because they stand out" "Attack" While returning home, Lancaster and Maltby were subjected to a "vicious mob attack" from "a large group of people" between 1:10 and 1:20 a.m. on Saturday, 11 August 2007, at the skate park area of Stubbylee Park, Bacup (grid reference SD865218).[3] The couple were walking home and came across a gang of teenagers at the entrance to the park.[4] The group followed them and assaulted Maltby, knocking him unconscious, and then Lancaster, who was shielding her boyfriend. A 15-year-old witness told police: "They were running over and just kicking her in the head and jumping up and down on her head". One witness used a mobile phone to call for emergency services saying: "We need... we need an ambulance at Bacup Park, this mosher has just been banged because he's a mosher".[5] Witnesses said that afterwards, "The killers celebrated their attack on the goths - or "moshers" - by telling friends afterwards that they had "done summat [something] good," and claiming: "There's two moshers nearly dead up Bacup park - you wanna see them - they're a right mess". Police said that it was "a sustained attack during the course of which the pair received serious head injuries and their faces were so swollen we could not ascertain which one was female and which one was male". Both were hospitalised as a result of the attack, initially at Rochdale Infirmary. Maltby's injuries left him in a coma and with internal bleeding. He gradually recovered, but had lost memory of the time leading up to, and during, the attack. Lancaster, in a deep coma, was placed on life support and moved to Fairfield General Hospital in Bury, then to the neurology unit at Hope Hospital (now Salford Royal Hospital) in Salford. The hospital staff determined that she would never regain consciousness, and on 24 August 2007 her life support was terminated. "Arrests and investigation" Lancashire Police arrested five individuals in connection with the attack, but conducted extensive further investigations, as it appeared that up to fifteen people were in the area and may have witnessed or participated in the assault. The police identified the gothic dress of the couple as a possible motivation for the attack. A 15-year-old and a 16-year-old were remanded in custody, while two 15-year-olds and a 17-year-old were released on bail. They were originally charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but following Lancaster's death the Crown Prosecution Service charged all five boys with her murder. By 5 October 2007, after questioning over 100 people, the police concluded that they were not expecting to make any more arrests in the case, and although 15-20 people were in the park at some point during the night of the attack, they believed that many were not directly involved, as the area was a regular night time hangout spot for teenagers. Local residents identified the park as a spot often used by, "drunken, violent yobs" guilty of vandalism and under-age drinking. They had asked for measures to be taken about the area before the tragedy occurred. Following the murder, residents called for improved security in the area, but Rossendale Borough Council said park rangers would be too expensive. "Trial and aftermath" On 6 September 2007, the five suspects were charged with murder at Burnley Youth Court. Three were released on bail: two boys aged 15 and 17 from Shawforth, and a 17-year-old boy from Bacup. On 18 October at Burnley Youth Court, all five were summoned to appear at Preston Crown Court. A preliminary hearing was held on 31 October 2007, where all five were charged with the murder of Lancaster and grievous bodily harm with intent for the assault on Maltby. A further plea and case management hearing was ordered by Judge Anthony Russell QC for 14 December. The judge also indicated a provisional trial date, on both allegations, of 10 March 2008. At the hearing on 14 December 2007, the five accused pleaded not guilty on both charges. At the beginning of the trial on 10 March 2008, all five boys pleaded guilty to the charge of grievous bodily harm with intent, Ryan Herbert pleaded guilty to murder, Brendan Harris pleaded not guilty to murder, while the murder charges against the other three were dropped. As the trial opened the prosecution told the hearing: "Sophie and Robert were singled out not for anything they had said or done, but because they looked and dressed differently". The jury heard extensive descriptions of the severity of the attack from a number of witnesses and through a recorded phone conversation taken at the time. At the conclusion of the trial on 27 March 2008, Brendan Harris was found guilty of murder, and the judge allowed the names of both Harris and Herbert, which had been concealed during the trial, to be made public. Detective Superintendent Mick Gradwell of Lancashire Police said it was one of the most violent murders he had come across in his career: "I do not think Herbert and Harris have recognised how violent the attack was. They have just done it without thinking, but they seemed to have enjoyed it, and carried on remorselessly kicking at two very defenceless people who were unable to protect themselves because of the level of violence inflicted upon them... I am very critical of some of the parents involved. I really don't think they have taken completely seriously how repulsive this incident was...". He said that when Harris was initially interviewed about the assaults he was "laughing and joking" with his mother. Sentencing in the case was set for 28 April 2008. Both Harris and Herbert were sentenced to life imprisonment with the trial judge recommending that Harris should serve at least eighteen years and Herbert at least sixteen years and three months. In his closing remarks the judge described the attack as "feral thuggery" which raised questions about the "sort of society which exists in this country". He added: "This was a terrible case which has shocked and outraged all who have heard about it. At least wild animals, when they hunt in packs, have a legitimate reason for so doing, to obtain food. You have none and your behaviour on that night degrades humanity itself". The three other defendants were also sentenced for their role in the attack. Brothers Joseph and Danny Hulme, and Daniel Mallett, who had all earlier pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent on Maltby, were jailed. Mallett was sentenced to four years and four months, and the Hulme brothers for five years and ten months each.[20] On 13 June 2008, it was reported that all the defendants were appealing against the sentences for their convictions. The appeal was heard on 7 October 2008 with an announcement that the result would be released at a later date. On 29 October the results of the appeal were announced. Ryan Herbert had his minimum term reduced from sixteen years and three months to fifteen years and six months, a reduction of nine months after the appeal judges ruled not enough allowance had been made for his guilty plea in the initial trial. Herbert then had his tariff cut to 14-and-a-half years on 10 February 2020, as a High Court judge concluded he has made "exceptional progress" in jail. [23] Brendan Harris and the three other defendants had their appeals dismissed.
The title card is for the video part of the music video. VnV just got permission to use it for their music. Edit: Gary Oldman as a spider creature? Were you talking about the 90s Lost In Space movie? Also, I recommend giving Leader of the Broken Hearts by Papa Roach a shot, if you haven’t already. It’s one of the only music videos I’ve ever shed a tear during, the other being Lost in the Echoes by Linkin Park.
There was a female Journalist in Sarasota Florida named Christine Chubbuck who killed herself by gunshot live on local TV way back in 1974 . Footage of course was destroyed by request of her family . Heartbreaking . That is how I happened on this song
Good song, sad lyrics... it's about suicide, isn't it ? Mylene Farmer has also some songs dealing with the same topic... and also some other dark and deep topics, as well. You'll find out soon, I'm sure. Best wishes : Gerry
Everytime this song runs I just cry. And this is wonderful.
This song always makes me cry, and feel better after.
And One - Killing the Mercy.... Really great and fantastic Band. Probably you enjoy it.
And One is phenomenal and about as core to Futurepop as it comes. If you ask yourself what Depeche Mode would have sounded like if the core of the group was an Iranian German, equipped with 21st century synths but the greatest love for 80s proto-darkwave, you'd end up with And One. "Shouts of Joy" is another And One track that is required listening, as well as the entire Bodypop album and "So Klingt Liebe" on that album.
Another group Mike & Ginger absolutely need to check out is Ashbury Heights, from Sweden. Anders and Yasmine shocked the futurepop / EBM world with their "Spiders" and had solid hits. Separated for a few years and did independent projects, but are back collaborating. Their cover of The Doors "People are Strange" is the perfection of the leading edge of Futurepop. It's got a beautiful kink twist, a half-distorted reality that speaks to the worldview of us darkwave gnostics who see more of reality's latticework and flaws then those living within the happy aquarium of neoliberal late capital.
I should add a music theory/aesthetic theory about futurepop: Have you noticed how its artists play upon the instability of major and minor chords? You'll think you're in a minor key as the song begins only to see a brilliant piercing ray of sunlight shoot through the clouds into a major key, only to return to the minor after the refrain. Futurepop is grounded in the late, late Romantic innovations of Gustav Mahler and a few other composers who sought a way to express a fleeting hope of a better world in the face of almost certain tragedy. Imagine staring down the coming World Wars, knowing there would be extreme death and destruction, but believing somehow that the creativity of humanity still possessed a fleeting chance for making a better world that didn't hurt people. Advance that frame 100 years where our hope is even further diminished but we refuse to give up, as we know that within each of us is a human that merits an ethical life of love and happiness, and somehow we just refuse to quit and give in to the suffocation of the status quo.
Depeche Mode pioneered this aesthetic path and we have remarkable artists today that include VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, And One, Ashbury Heights, Mind In A Box (and the associated THYX project), In Strict Confidence, Front Line Assembly, Rotersand, TR/ST, Royksopp, and others who explore this profoundly creative new space in the hopes of uncovering paths for us all that can lead to better ethical worlds.
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Nova - Shine a light on me is another classic by VNV.
Welcome to the VNV Nation
New single out now, and a new album soon.
been listening to them since the 90s, let us 40 somethings party on!
This is one of their most emotional songs, along with Beloved and Ghost, I'd say. Absolutely lovely... the kind of music I'd put on when out for a hike, drowning out the rest of the world.
If you want a dancy song, try Chrome, Space And Time, Standing, Nemesis.. and like a dozen more.
from my hands is the most emotional one by them
I really wish you would react to the song "Further" by this band, no one seems to have done it, was my first introduction to them and I love it, I'm sure you would too.
Hi great track thank you for playing it 😀
also you should totally see them live...excellent show
We totally would, if we get the chance! - G
You know the stereotype where teenagers are like "this song really speaks to me"? It's true this song is depressing as hell and it feels like a loved one talking to me
Video and song were touching.... B4 it started I watchet the old color tv. I was the the remote conrol: mom or dad said "change to channel 3..." The social media i full of stupid challenges "and - I dare you! stuff", and ofcourse the perfect modified bodies and faces 😟
If you want a weepy by VNV, try From My Hands.
NK. That song is what made me realize VNV was not another EDM/rave/club band
this is massage to celebrate difference and stopping with the fear of difference
you are unique so stop being someone else or someone that someone else want you to be
written after a murder of a girl for being a goth in Brighton UK i believe
You should definitely have a look at the live version of this song from M‘era Luna Festival (It‘s in THE List).
I‘ve been there (shot the first three songs) and loved it 😎🤘
I love this song for years. I like it even more without the video!
I agree, he has such a haunting voice!
You could react to "Mono Inc - If I fail (Symphonic live)! It has kind of the same vibe and is a very beautiful song!
Now that was different from the first one. Love the voice. Just beautiful. Video was a little disturbing but on point.
RIP Sophie
Really nice track:)
The story behind this track, is actually quite a sad one. This song has been dedicated by Ronin Harris, to Sophie Lancaster, after being murdered.
The murder of Sophie Lancaster occurred in England in August 2007. The victim and her boyfriend, Robert Maltby, were attacked by a number of teenage boys while walking through Stubbylee Park in Bacup, Rossendale, Lancashire, on 11 August 2007.[1] As a result of the severe head injuries Lancaster sustained in the attack, she went into a coma from which she never regained consciousness and died of her injuries thirteen days later. The police said the attack may have been linked to the couple wearing gothic fashion and being members of the goth subculture.
Five teenage boys were later arrested and charged with murder. Two of them were convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. The other three were convicted and jailed for grievous bodily harm. A memorial fund was established in Lancaster's name, and numerous events have paid tribute to her locally, nationally and internationally. Plays, films, art and books have covered the issues surrounding the murder.
"Background"
Sophie Lancaster (born 26 November 1986) was a former pupil at Bacup and Rawtenstall Grammar School and Haslingden High School, and a gap year student planning to attend Accrington and Rossendale College to do an English degree. She had been dating Robert Maltby, a 21-year-old art student from Manchester, for three years, and they both had a long-standing attachment to the goth subculture. The couple's family described them as "Goths", and said: "They're both intelligent, sensitive kids. They're not the sort of people to get in trouble, but they have had problems in the past because they stand out"
"Attack"
While returning home, Lancaster and Maltby were subjected to a "vicious mob attack" from "a large group of people" between 1:10 and 1:20 a.m. on Saturday, 11 August 2007, at the skate park area of Stubbylee Park, Bacup (grid reference SD865218).[3] The couple were walking home and came across a gang of teenagers at the entrance to the park.[4] The group followed them and assaulted Maltby, knocking him unconscious, and then Lancaster, who was shielding her boyfriend. A 15-year-old witness told police: "They were running over and just kicking her in the head and jumping up and down on her head". One witness used a mobile phone to call for emergency services saying: "We need... we need an ambulance at Bacup Park, this mosher has just been banged because he's a mosher".[5] Witnesses said that afterwards, "The killers celebrated their attack on the goths - or "moshers" - by telling friends afterwards that they had "done summat [something] good," and claiming: "There's two moshers nearly dead up Bacup park - you wanna see them - they're a right mess".
Police said that it was "a sustained attack during the course of which the pair received serious head injuries and their faces were so swollen we could not ascertain which one was female and which one was male". Both were hospitalised as a result of the attack, initially at Rochdale Infirmary. Maltby's injuries left him in a coma and with internal bleeding. He gradually recovered, but had lost memory of the time leading up to, and during, the attack. Lancaster, in a deep coma, was placed on life support and moved to Fairfield General Hospital in Bury, then to the neurology unit at Hope Hospital (now Salford Royal Hospital) in Salford. The hospital staff determined that she would never regain consciousness, and on 24 August 2007 her life support was terminated.
"Arrests and investigation"
Lancashire Police arrested five individuals in connection with the attack, but conducted extensive further investigations, as it appeared that up to fifteen people were in the area and may have witnessed or participated in the assault. The police identified the gothic dress of the couple as a possible motivation for the attack. A 15-year-old and a 16-year-old were remanded in custody, while two 15-year-olds and a 17-year-old were released on bail. They were originally charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but following Lancaster's death the Crown Prosecution Service charged all five boys with her murder.
By 5 October 2007, after questioning over 100 people, the police concluded that they were not expecting to make any more arrests in the case, and although 15-20 people were in the park at some point during the night of the attack, they believed that many were not directly involved, as the area was a regular night time hangout spot for teenagers.
Local residents identified the park as a spot often used by, "drunken, violent yobs" guilty of vandalism and under-age drinking. They had asked for measures to be taken about the area before the tragedy occurred. Following the murder, residents called for improved security in the area, but Rossendale Borough Council said park rangers would be too expensive.
"Trial and aftermath"
On 6 September 2007, the five suspects were charged with murder at Burnley Youth Court. Three were released on bail: two boys aged 15 and 17 from Shawforth, and a 17-year-old boy from Bacup. On 18 October at Burnley Youth Court, all five were summoned to appear at Preston Crown Court. A preliminary hearing was held on 31 October 2007, where all five were charged with the murder of Lancaster and grievous bodily harm with intent for the assault on Maltby. A further plea and case management hearing was ordered by Judge Anthony Russell QC for 14 December. The judge also indicated a provisional trial date, on both allegations, of 10 March 2008. At the hearing on 14 December 2007, the five accused pleaded not guilty on both charges.
At the beginning of the trial on 10 March 2008, all five boys pleaded guilty to the charge of grievous bodily harm with intent, Ryan Herbert pleaded guilty to murder, Brendan Harris pleaded not guilty to murder, while the murder charges against the other three were dropped. As the trial opened the prosecution told the hearing: "Sophie and Robert were singled out not for anything they had said or done, but because they looked and dressed differently". The jury heard extensive descriptions of the severity of the attack from a number of witnesses and through a recorded phone conversation taken at the time.
At the conclusion of the trial on 27 March 2008, Brendan Harris was found guilty of murder, and the judge allowed the names of both Harris and Herbert, which had been concealed during the trial, to be made public. Detective Superintendent Mick Gradwell of Lancashire Police said it was one of the most violent murders he had come across in his career: "I do not think Herbert and Harris have recognised how violent the attack was. They have just done it without thinking, but they seemed to have enjoyed it, and carried on remorselessly kicking at two very defenceless people who were unable to protect themselves because of the level of violence inflicted upon them... I am very critical of some of the parents involved. I really don't think they have taken completely seriously how repulsive this incident was...". He said that when Harris was initially interviewed about the assaults he was "laughing and joking" with his mother.
Sentencing in the case was set for 28 April 2008. Both Harris and Herbert were sentenced to life imprisonment with the trial judge recommending that Harris should serve at least eighteen years and Herbert at least sixteen years and three months. In his closing remarks the judge described the attack as "feral thuggery" which raised questions about the "sort of society which exists in this country". He added: "This was a terrible case which has shocked and outraged all who have heard about it. At least wild animals, when they hunt in packs, have a legitimate reason for so doing, to obtain food. You have none and your behaviour on that night degrades humanity itself".
The three other defendants were also sentenced for their role in the attack. Brothers Joseph and Danny Hulme, and Daniel Mallett, who had all earlier pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent on Maltby, were jailed. Mallett was sentenced to four years and four months, and the Hulme brothers for five years and ten months each.[20] On 13 June 2008, it was reported that all the defendants were appealing against the sentences for their convictions. The appeal was heard on 7 October 2008 with an announcement that the result would be released at a later date. On 29 October the results of the appeal were announced. Ryan Herbert had his minimum term reduced from sixteen years and three months to fifteen years and six months, a reduction of nine months after the appeal judges ruled not enough allowance had been made for his guilty plea in the initial trial. Herbert then had his tariff cut to 14-and-a-half years on 10 February 2020, as a High Court judge concluded he has made "exceptional progress" in jail. [23] Brendan Harris and the three other defendants had their appeals dismissed.
Such a sad story. We did a Delain song, We Are The Others, about the same story. - G
The title card is for the video part of the music video. VnV just got permission to use it for their music.
Edit: Gary Oldman as a spider creature? Were you talking about the 90s Lost In Space movie? Also, I recommend giving Leader of the Broken Hearts by Papa Roach a shot, if you haven’t already. It’s one of the only music videos I’ve ever shed a tear during, the other being Lost in the Echoes by Linkin Park.
There was a female Journalist in Sarasota Florida named Christine Chubbuck who killed herself by gunshot live on local TV way back in 1974 . Footage of course was destroyed by request of her family . Heartbreaking . That is how I happened on this song
Oh wow! That’s quite a story! -
"Beloved", and "Nova" should be your next VNV Nation songs.
Dark side of our brains.
Ronan is the best lyricist!
Joy, Kingdom or Dark Angel
Great song. I really like them so far.
pitié, n'oubliez pas "from my hands" du même groupe...
Adelways lay reaction the magic flute
Good song, sad lyrics... it's about suicide, isn't it ? Mylene Farmer has also some songs dealing with the same topic... and also some other dark and deep topics, as well. You'll find out soon, I'm sure. Best wishes : Gerry
this is so sad
This song always gets me deep inside.... it's about suicide...
This comment is just an illusion.
P.S. For me the song was just OK instrumentally, but the lyrics & the video were great.
too many infos novadays bomabards teens via social tv image all over ,itz not easy to mantien own personality when so young.
Cutting poignant song. Vocal and video matched the mood.!