The hardest adc
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i like how he mentions the difference between skill floor and skill ceiling. a lot of people just look at skill floor to decide everything for a champion because they wanna complain
Most players are just low elo or unranked so they gauge champion difficulty based on how hard it is to make it work for them, not how hard it is to play ideally.
Hey what is difference between skill floor & skill ceilings ?
@@viltzz6544 "Floor" is how difficult the champion is to function with.
For example if you have 0 games on a champion, how many games do you need to be able to not be useless?
"Ceiling" is how many games you need to master the mechanics of a champion, and even when you "master", how many variables can still be improved. Basically champions with many possible combinations and many multifaceted uses of their kit.
Zed, Ezreal, Yasuo and Ekko are good examples of relatively low floor, but have high ceilings.
Aphelios and Rengar are good examples of a champion with a high floor but not a high ceiling, because once you figure out how his guns work, he is not a hard champ, he is actually more or less a ranged statchecker, Rengar sort of similar, once you get a hang of his gameplay with bushes and passive, he is more or less a statchecker too.
Examples of high floor AND high ceiling would be champs like Nidalee and Gangplank, where if you are below Diamond and someone locks them in, just dodge the game if you want to win.
@@Dingdong2730 perfect explanation
@@Dingdong2730 and perfect icon btw
Ezreal: Mastering Throwing Skillshots
Draven: Mastering being the skillshot
Edit:....bruh
Welcome to the League of Draven
@@GodlySchnoz not draven, draaaaaaaaven
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Easy to use but hard to master moments
Yup
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It's exactly like singed. A lot of players just say he's a noob champ cauz of his floor skill but they don't understand how big his the learning curve is and how high his ceiling skill is
@@powerlifting9152i could say that he is hard macrowise :D
@@powerlifting9152 his skill ceiling is high in terms of macro and decision making, then again so is every champions. Mechanically his ceiling is garen level
That one Chinese ezreal player double lift did video on : i dont miss
2255 LP EZREAL
Watching an average Ezreal vs a great Ezreal vs that guy, it's like night and dawn and noon at the Equator. He makes it look like he's playing URF and scripting. Insane player.
He's called Han Qian Luo
@@Noodlyk18 he does miss some of his Q, but that only happens when he's chilling all the way back. The way that guy plays Ezreal is bruiser style. He's fighting everyone between mid and close range making his Q's harder to dodge by preventing them from having any breathing space.
I didn’t really get it until I saw the 2000LP Chinese ezreal. My dude doesn’t miss and does sooo much dps its wild
Probably it's scripted. There is no way for Ezreal players to have 100 percent accuracy. Even Pro players miss their skillshots most of the time as Ezreal.
@@kendivedmakarig215to say he doesn't miss is hyperbole, he still misses some of his shots, but 80% accuracy is still insane on Ezreal
Ngl I've missed more right clicks than I have skillshots
same lmao right clicking is much harder than hitting skillshots
Skill issue
So fking true man
For real, my kiting skills are the prime example.
U couldve missed skill shots and autos
Aphelios is hard because he has a lot of features, he is harder to just pick up and play, but once you learn aphelios, there is nothing mechanically demanding that makes or breaks your game. Ezreal is much easier for the average player to just pick up and play, but you can continue to improve mechanically on Ez basically forever
you said what he said but took longer to say it.
@@chokonnit7337 idk man, a few sentences took me less time to read than to watch the minute clip
Pin worthy comment
That’s what he meant by aphelios has a higher skill floor while ezreal has higher skill ceiling
Guess karthus is the hardest champ in the game then lmao
People sleep on the high mechanical ceiling adc’s like draven kalista ezreal even Xayah because of champs like aphelios
I’d even put Samira and Nilah up there, Aphelios has always been difficult for new players to learn but doesn’t curve nearly as much
The hardest part of Aphelios is having 4 teammates that know what utility he actually does
Please don't say Samira requires any skill.
@@vincent-ataramanikomad bronzie 🤓
I don't agree yes those are all high mechanical ceiling champs but aphelios takes the cake.
@@ReallyGnashty626 definitely. I don't know what the people are talking about. I bet neither of commentators mained Aphelios to compare him to other characters. He has both the highest floor and ceiling. The floor is learning combos, the ceiling is learning to apply his VARIOUS built-in utility. A very few people can perform as Aphelios in a long term, even the best streamers and high elo players constantly make mistakes like fighting with a wrong gun and going for the worst (of 2) ults. Meanwhile Ezreal is just spamming Qs.
By the same logic the player from the video used, Syndra is the hardest champ in the game: she has 3 skillshots! And "you can't land skills hot all the time" :'((( !
Considering how Ezreal has mobility and can deal dmg non-interactively it breaks me into laughter people even consider him the hardest.
As a diamond adc main, I see lots of people fighting about Aphelios vs Ezreal which one is hardest, etc. But for me my respect always goes to adc players that pick kogmaw without having lulu support, truly the most brave players out there.
In all seriousness now, I love all adc’s and what they have to offer (although Samira is a bit too ridiculous, I’m not a fan of her kit, feels like it’s too much of a stretch of how playing adc should feel) but for me kalista is the perfect adc 😍 the amount of kiting + spacing + knowing when to be aggressive, among other things required to be fully engaged with her is just super satisfying.
Kog is not hard without lulu tho he is just weak thats the thing you know
Problem with playing ezreal in higher elos is that people know that they can block your skillshots so you won't actually kill anyone because once they start to get low everyone is just going to jump in front of your Spells to peel for the low health target.
Yes so ezreal needs enough dps to go through an entire team which he just kinda lacks rn, still insanely high dps with strong items and perfect mechanics but usually still too low compared to champs that can take out one champ at a time ye.
This is why I love ap ezreal. His ult can finish half hp squishies.
Well guess what? Kog’Maw just spits on his enemies
Kogmaw is a ranged stat checker and other than Jinx and Jhin is the lowest skill ceiling adc.
Change my mind
@@Dingdong2730 I think a Lot of ADCs have the same Skill ceiling, as kiting and positioning is the Main Skill. The kits of most marksmen are not that Hard to master, so I dont know why kogs' ceiling ist important to you?
@@RF-qy8vr Higher range = easier
@@Dingdong2730 bruh jhin is hard
@@Dingdong2730 fair point but why do you say j+j are Harder and wouldnt caitlin be the easiest by that logic?
The thing about ezreal is he’s super self reliant. For you to play ezreal well in solo queue it’s way harder than playing aphelios well in solo queue. Aphelios has no movement speed/mobility.
Thing is aphelios can definately turn a bad engage into a winning teamfight. Ezreal in the same situation will have to kite everyone one by one and eventually manage to stall for long enough so his mates start reviving.
He doesn't even have waveclear to defend. His one and only way of holding the game is literally going singed style honeytrap on them with bad positioning so that they keep following you instead of getting objectives lmao
That makes it easier tho. Aphelios positioning is way more important than Ez who has a bail out
I agree, but it is easier to keep yourself safe if youre an ezreal than if youre an aphelios (I guess)
This is the most adc take I've ever heard
Ikr this idiot is talking about ezreal is hard mechanically he has clear never played trynd lol
I love this guy, he really breaks down league in an interesting way
Thank you for using Kirari as bg music. Reminded me to listen to it again
I actually agree. The first time I saw Ezreal’s kit I was like “Jesus if you can’t land any skillshots then this guy sucks!”
Laughs in full build jhin at 30 minutes of gathering storm and collector
Ezreal scales on how actually good you are
Nice soul king poster!
Id personally say apheplois is harder cuz not kit but due to him being one of the most unsafe adcs homie has no dashes no mobility and low range with sevrum/chakrmas which is the damage guns combo where ezreal has a blink and so much more range.
It’s funny because I main support and when a see a ezreal or a aphellios I already know my laser is over. Aphilios level 1-2 they are ok with their first gun/combo but past their first cycle their are just clueless for the reste of the game.
Aphelios is a good adc to me. Ezreal is harder than a mage throwing spells perfectly(because weaving autos in and spacing). Also it’s not as rewarding. You can say every unique adc has high ceiling like Lucian, Varys, cait, vayne etc. this has to be an old time of him saying this
Varus should not be on that list...
Draven is the same way, if you catch every axe with perfect positioning, your damage output is WILD. That's why Tyler got challenger with draven, his positioning while catching axes is insane
U a gay
Why is it that every champion thats meant to be hard I find to be the easiest champions yet my dumb ass is also over here like "how the fuck do you play Garen, this shit is too hard"
Simpler champs put a greater emphasis on macro or other micro-interactions(aka knowledge checks), and since these are naturally unintuitive it’s easy to feel like someone like Garen is harder than he really is.
This in turn explains why he has a low mastery curve, as in you can figure out the vast majority of his nuances in like 50 games if you limit test. Limit testing with riven on the other hand will take an obscenely higher amount of games if you’re looking to become Viper, or shit even baseline competent with her in lane.
@@emanonomoi It was a rhetorical question, I already know exactly why it is like that for me. I'm naturally pretty decent mechanically at LOL but I don't care to actually get better at the rest of the game as I just enjoy LOL to have fun with friends. Climbing and improving isn't something I care about, so for me something like Lee Sin seems easy while I have no idea what to do on Xin Zhao
If you don't even play ranked, can you say you are good mechanically? Styling on unranked players with lee sin and lee sin being easy are not the same thing.
Aphelios gravitum brings his dps down so much and it sucks cause it's the hardest to burn
Hardest to burn? Just spam Q
@@synthwave5520 you can say that for any of them, just spam q and you’ll burn. But gravitum has way to slow attack speed
@@henke3465 ? uh my guy gravitum has the same attack speed as the rest
Gravitum is hardest to burn because it's the only one that REQUIRES an attack target to spam Q and burn through it. Most times in the game you won't want to sit still and do nothing by a wave or camp whilst you wait to burn your weapon on the target, it's just inefficient. So it will always take longer to get rid of Gravitum than any other weapon.
aphelios gravitum is a form of control, it pairs very well with calibrum (for poking/peeling) or sometimes even infernum where it can slow and root everyone in an area. I suppose its not a poggers press button to kill like infernum, but it has its uses.
"I can't always land skillshots, i'm only human" - GorillA.
Aphelios is like a house on the mountain, but ezreal is a church the size of a mountain
ezreal just goes w q e free real estate...
"If you land all your skill shots"
Yasuo proceeds to block ult
I would say yes in a vaccumm that would be right yes as champions but i would also say aphelios still matches ezreals skill ceiling with more just get fundentals like positions which are many times more important on someone with no mobility like aphelios whereas ezreal has a free dash, to add onto this pro play aphelios probably has a lower skill cieling sure because the whole team will play around him but most of us aren't playing pro play soloq u don't have an entire team playing around you which in turn requires a higher skill ceiling to even stay alive when ezreal can just e away
I approve it as supp main. I hate when i see someone pick ezreal as adc bcs then i need to do most of the job. But sometimes it feels so fun when finally you get good ezreal like couple days ago where we had such good game cause of that guy who actually knew how to land more than 50%-70% skillshots which lead us to very good snowball 😁
First time hearing this man having a correct take lol
The "floor skillcap thing" I've never heard a word to describe this concept before, other than master a champ.
The opposition between floor and ceiling skillcap is the perfect way to describe lol champions
wtf
He doesnt understand it tho. He defines skill ceiling only off of mechanical skill which is a dumb logic
Ezreal: Mastering Throwing Skillshots
Draven: Mastering being the skillshot
Zeri: Didnt get mentioned once.
Nobody plays zeri since she might require actual effort since she’s not incredibly broken like ezreal or cait but still needs skillshots and they don’t go through minions…
Aphelios an Ezreal are like math and physics B.Scs respectively
For anyone wondering what song was playing in the background, it was Kirari by Fuji Kaze
Me casually miss 80% of my skillshot as ezreal
Everything is true, it also depends on player playstyle as well, so both opinion is true, ezreal is high skill for certain people and aphelios is high skill for certain people, thus creating otp players,
That windfall was late af
that Caitlyn teamfight ??? what a nice positionning 😭
What interesting is that, as a general rule, the more skillshots a champion has the more low elo skewed they will be. I think this is due to the fact that, generally, people learn how to aim before they learn how to dodge.
Kalista in a bots hands will be unbeatable
The top 1 ezreal in the Chinese super server be like:
“Aimbot? Ah, you mean that thing that makes me hit less skill shots than when I aim it manually?”
Every ADC in silver: let's pick ezreal! 😭
lux must be the hardest champ in the game, even her shield is a skillshot 🤡🤡🤡
iron
Lux doesn't have to hit Q every second et reposition with E every 5 seconds. You're the clown
S14 MF and Senna be like: You sure you wanna do this?
You can't land all Not because we are humans but the fact that people are trying to dodge them
Ye coz ezreal surely doesnt give giant hitboxes
nah draven highest skill ceiling
Thresh with God prediction:eh?
bronze ezreals seem to think that you need to miss the skillshots lol
What do you think of Xayah? I love her play style but most damage is from E and is sucks when you miss E
One thing about skillshots people tend to forget in analysis like this is that you don't need to be able to click an enemy directly. This has quite a few advantages too, and it makes kiting a lot easier.
Biggest downside i'd say is that its easy to bodyblock ezreal's damage, and he doesn't have any mechanics for shredding tanks.
that was a good ezreal and cait clip
Damn - that fkn knowledge bomb with the easy description
“Higher floor, lower ceiling” - fantastic analogy
Wdym Skill floor and Skill ceiling are commonly used words, it's not an analogy he came up with in the Moment
@@RF-qy8vr oh shit - so you misread that entirely lol
Is it a good analogy? Yes.
Did I mention anywhere in my message he came up with it? No.
So you’re reading something that isn’t there, then asking me to explain why i wrote it (even though I didn’t) 😅
Now, you could’ve just said “hey, what do you mean? Can you clarify your statement?”
But instead, you did…this “BUT BUT BUT HE DIDNT COME UP WITH THAT!”
I’m going to ignore your statment and I’m going to clarify mine
There’s 15 words on my message - the first 9 words say “wow - that information was beneficial in how succinct it was!”
The next line has 6 words “‘harder to learn, easier to master’ - the metaphor works well in this context”
So where in those 15 words did you get “AMAZING HOW SMART HE IS! He came up with that himself!! What a genius! *fondles balls, licks butthole, worships him*” ?
Sorry, you used complety different words, the OP sounded like you are more about the words then the facts, I agree with what you meant tho
Meanwhile Droben... right click go brrrrr
I think Ezreal a lot easier than Draven and Kalista. I suck so much at them as I don’t have this intuitive movement, but predicting and landing skill shots is a lot easier for me.
What he says is infact true ezreal is the most broken adc if you land all your skills shots.But we must take into consideration that its not just a matter of bots and humans.That duality is not a major thing since landing qs is basically impossible into high movement speed champs, champs that outrange ezreal's q and spellshield and shield.Furthermore tanks and high ranged champs are meta which explains the pattern of ezreal rising depending on the value of anti armor items
I’ve always thought kallista was a hard adc to master
Are we not going to talk about きらり in the background?
Yeah I ... dun think that's all that accurate.
Bro really trying to convince people that ez skillshot is hard to hit.
Lucian. Argument done.
I love ur content as an adc expert. There was a certain guy that went full on jax if you know what i mean, i hope that is not common in adc mains
Cant miss skill shots if I don’t use them
Riot recommended me Ezreal at the end of s12, and I used to hate ezreal just as a character. Now that I've tried him out.... I want to master him...
Did this Factor in Zeri. The ADC that litterly has a skillshot instead of her autoattacks?
Kinda feel like she could be up there with ezreal
Zeri was the first thing I thought up after watching this short. Zeri is definitely up there with Ezreal for sure. Zeri is just not as popular Ezreal.
insert kek w doesn’t matter how many skill shots you hit if you’re not autoing then you do no damage cough cough passive
Kalitta says hello
Kalista isn't that hard tbh. Although you do need a good support to actually play well. Same as Twitch.
I wonder who has the highest human on normal wifi skill ceiling
ezreal mechanics: afk farm and E backwards in case anything happens
Ez is one of those champs I either go 1/17 or 17/1 no in between.
I used to think I was a good ezreal otp with my 65% wintere 200 games diamond 2 account until I actually met a scripter on ezreal and showed me what the champ can really do.
Fair to say I haven’t played ezreal ever since, absolutely traumatized me
Ezreal skillshots are huge and easy to land
I think he forgot about zeri.
Ezreal is one of the most if not the most apm intensive champs in the game
I sometimes like to play him full AP SivHD style 😂
Then there's me who play Aphelios with whatever weapon that comes up. Just R and QW QW the keep up the kite
similar to caitlyn. also easy to learn, but rediculously hard to master. two skillshots, one of them is also a movement skill. the traps have a radius of 15 (no 0 missing there). headshot auto cancels etc.
The hilarious thing about this is in low elo people just sit at max Q range and throw Q endlessly, they probably even land a lot of them. It just does no damage if you arent also autoing
which means dont play him unless you are high ranked.
I see why I'm silver 4, didn't understand 90% of what he said hahahahaha
2255 lp HQL: hold my lp
Most DPS of any adc u say huh? *cries in karthus*
As support main, I hate playing with ezreals together as early he rarely hits skill shots with all the minions and mid-late, he is as good as the player
Missing Teddy's Ezreal!
What's the song?
What's your opinion on Wukong kit vs Irelia kit? Is wukongs better than irelia's? Why or why not?
By that logic, zeri has the highest skill ceiling with her skillshot aa's
don't expect much from the keria dickrider
That is definitely arguable lol
Till you have a team fight and can’t hit the back line through the tanks and his only aoe damage is his ult.
Well if you’re hitting the back line through the tanks as any adc every single game and you’re playing in an evenly matched game you’re definitely in bronze. Diving is flashy and all that man but front to back fundamentally is gonna be the most consistent way to win games and the way the pros use, their fundamentals are just better so they will put dps the enemy adc just by living.
Ezreal deals a lot of damage to tanks in late game though and isn't that affected by Thornmail as much.
It's not your job as ADC to hit the backline unless you can do it safely
ADCS ARE MEANT TO FIGHT FRONTLINES FIRST WELCOME TO MOBAS AD CARRIES ARE NOT ASSASSINS
Jesus. I've been hearing that crap since season 2 enough is enough.
So I mained EZ for a season, could win every game in lane get fed af, but didn’t ever out damage aoe adc’s in late game team fights. Especially if my team was behind in a solo que game…I’m just speaking from my experience on progression through gold and one game from plat. Yes I’m not that great, but this has been my experience. Also when’s the last time you saw pros winning worlds on an ez? Seems to me like there’s a reason they go for kaisa, jinx, cait, etc… every time I see an ez in pro play they shit the bed except on rare occasions… and back line can be hit from proper spacing and fog of war usage…and I’m not talking at the start of a fight… of course everyone would immediately take a dump on your face if that was the case…
Hb draven? He has 2 skill shots (ult and e) as well as constantly moving to pick up his axes
You sounded so much like doublelift I thought you were him before I looked lmfao
"miss" what's up with people forgetting dodge on react exists.
*Kalista has left the chat*
as someone said, ezreal is balanced on the fact that you are going to miss a part of your skillshots. So if you touch everything you become a monster like some 2000 lp chal ez.
As an Aphel main, I can agree that Ez is higher in terms of skill ceiling.
What about jinx on full build with her passive procced? Isnt that more dps?
There are quite a few ADCs that have more DPS all game than ezreal even if you hit every skillshot.
I remeber a game, when I hit like 95% of my spells, I think I never played so good in my life as ezreal. I had like 80k dmg to the second having 56k. But we still ended up loosing.