SC Project Exhaust Comparison 2022 Ducati HyperMotard 950 SP
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2022
- Managed to get hold of another pair of SC Project exhausts, but this time the S1, so decided to do a quick comparison against the CR-T.
These two exhausts are probably the most popular on Hypermotards both costing approximately the same but totally different characteristics depending on what you like as a rider.
The CR-T is proper loud.. idle's around 93 DB and even at 3K RPM was 105 DB - these will not pass any static noise testing days.. but for drive-by testing they have got me on Donington Park on a quiet 98 DB with some clever short-shifting down the start/finish straight.
The S1 has more of a little burble when idling and definitely looks chunkier sitting under the fairing... it idles at 89 DB (4- DB less) and at 3K RPM was 100 DB (-5 DB less).. but these are also 1KG heavier - must be the full Ti compared to Ti and Carbon.
I couldn't notice much difference when riding but was only in 2nd/3rd gear on public roads.. but at least I have some flexibility now and can finally ditch the stock cans.. and with all SC equipment they hold strong in the 2nd hand market so you will always make your money back. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I've had the SC S1s on my 950SP for one year. I decided to go with them because they are available with grid caps, and the caps definitely make them appear a more finished, well-thought out product. I'm not a fan of Ti metal, but their design melds better with the lines of the bike and less than an afterthought setup. I rarely ride without earplugs, but due to a mild right ear issue a few weeks ago, I was forced to ride without them. At higher speeds the S1 are VERY loud. Part of my ride requires a roundtrip thru a 1.7km tunnel and the sound is absolutely symphonic! The ride takes me up into a redwood forest, and as I downshift to 2nd the boom attracts attention and this location has been a bike hangout for well over 50 years. The additional weight is a nonstarter, because it's the unsprung weight that matters. Start the ride with light-weight pipes and stop to have a proper lunch, and there go the touted weight savings. To anyone who is going to get the Ti pipes. either install them whilst wearing gloves, or wipe them clean with WD-40 BEFORE firing up; that way your fingerprints won't be burnt on to the pipes.
Some very useful tips and great insight.. thanks for sharing
S1's gets my vote they look so in keeping with the bikes lines.
I feel that.. 👍🏻
Find myself enjoying quiet pipes at this point, surely my neighbors will appreciate this.
I’m running baffles in my current system - I got used to it now and doesnt hurt my ears so much 👍🏻
Great test! Thanks for sharing! I’ve just sold
My 21 S1000R and bought an 950 RVE. Too long to wait for the SP. Plus love the RVE graphics. Can I ask please, are these just the end cans of full system? So the cat has been removed? Would you have a link to the S1s? Thanks 🙌 Oli
Just end cans.. the cat is still there. I get all my stuff from conquest racing
@@hypermotardking wow that is loud without cat removed! Impressive! Great bike you have. Just followed you on instagram, I’ll check conquestrscing out. 👍
@@rve_rider741 I don’t know how people ride it without the CAT 😭😭 👍🏻
Thank you for your video, very informative! Do you think the S1’s would cause a headache after driving a while? I prefer driving w/o earplugs…
The S1’s are fine without earplugs with is the CAT.. the. CRT’s are not
Amazing mate. Thx for posting.
A couple of questions if you dont mind..
Are those full systems or slip on?
Does that change your insurance?
Do you still get he pops and crackles when you come off yhe accelerator with the SC's?
Thanks..
1. End cans only
2. Insurance went up a little
3. Yes to pops n bangs
I have had it flashed now so its even better..
@@hypermotardking class. Thx for answering
@@hypermotardking pops n bangs on the both ?
@@damienlaroche9050 Yes (mine is flashed)
Definitely the S1's for looks. 👍
I like the CRT’s just because they different and many people have them - but they loud 🔊
The new ones just look so so so smart
Proper factory
Things you have to do for UK track days 😂
@@hypermotardking absolutely
S1 for me, looks much neater and still sound amazing 🤩
Definately the more popular muffler for the Hyper.. can even resell them for £500 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking both sound great to be fair 👌
i really thought the crts were so loud the s1s would sound like silence. But I didn't expect so little decibel difference either. And CRT's are much more hooligan. I love them, but cant ride without earplugs ;)
Same.. I love the CR-Ts and earplugs are necessary - plus they sound so dirty when blippin down tbe box with burbles n bangs 😍
S1's looking the best!
Yeah.. I kept the S1’s and sold the CR-T
Any SC Project do on the Hyper
Nice video, are crts road legal - insurance companies etc ??
Its up to the individual to inform the insurance companies of changes on their bike.. I declare everything and the costs hence I pay a hefty premium 😭
S1's look really good!
Currently thinking about getting a hypermotard 950 sp or a indian ftr 1200.
Don't know which to choose..
Theres a massive waiting list and long build times for the new 950 SP.. means used prices are still high for earlier SP’s.. but its defo worth waiting for
I’d say if you want the bike to work, get the Indian. Ducati’s are BEAUTIFUL ELEGANT AND SEXY. But, you’ll be spending a lot of time, and a lot of money, at the dealer if you choose to own one and actually ride it.
The S1’s get my vote. I’ve had them on my SP for a year now and I love the look and sound although I have to ride with earplugs!
Yeah its a good all round of looks and sound.. good resale value to because they so popular
@@hypermotardking that’s interesting to know but doesn’t make much difference to me because I wouldn’t sell the exhaust or the bike. I made a rule for myself never to sell a bike again. I get PTSD every time I see an R6. Great channel by the way, keep up the great videos.
@@BerkleyBuilds Thanks.. this Hyper I got is the longest bike I’ve ever owned 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking that’s an achievement. Any plans for your next bike?
@@BerkleyBuilds I’m just staying away from any test rides 😂😂
I don’t think you ever used one but do you know if the decat link pipe from SC fits this year model? I asked them but they don’t seem to know.
Its the “clamps” vs “springs” on the decat pipe.. weird SC who make it don’t know 😂😂
How do you find the S1 with DB killer Vs stock? I just got my Hyper and I'm looking at both these exhausts but don't especially want to be forced into earplugs each ride which I'm guessing it is where the CRT lands for long rides?
CRT’s defo need ear plugs..
S1’s you can get away with ear plugs but the stock exhaust is so poor for noise 😂
@@hypermotardking thanks for the quick response, the stock exhaust is the only downside of this bike for me I'm coming off an MT09 which was at least a nice noise stock if quiet. I just didn't want to end up plugging my ears as I run an intercom/speaker setup which feels redundant if I can't hear it!
Sounds like S1's and leave the baffle/cat in is the way for me.
@@Philovski I had an MT10.. still my all time favourite bike
Question… is the CRT equipped on the bike with just the slip-on exhaust and link pipe or is it a full system?
Just the slip-on only in both tests for the CRT and S1. At this point the stock Euro5 CAT is still on the bike.
great bike.
did you remove the DB killer on the new ones?
No.. i need noise limits low for track days
No.. need to leave them in for noise restrictions..
No.. kept them to stay under track noise limits of 102db
S1’s get my vote. Would likely want a cat delete and tune to get the most out of it though. Reasonably priced here in Australia too!
I’m eyeing off a 950 - the seat height of the SP worries me a bit as I’m a shortarse. I’ve been riding my fathers Desert X and the SP is slightly taller again. That said, the Hyper is slimmer/lighter.
In some ways I feel the normal 950 would be a better road/street bike compared to the SP - can you comment? Does the SP feel rough/harsh on road?
SP is dampened stiff/hard for road with the stock 100nm rear spring - I swapped mine out for a 90nm öhlins rear spring and its much better (im 73kg).
I got the VanDemon full Ti system now (From Aus) with a tune from BHPUK (ship worldwide) - thats the best system out there.
Check my other videos 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking Nice! - I actually just stumbled across the Van Demon system before. They’re made an hour or so from me it seems which is cool!
Is the Tune plug and play or did you have it Dyno tuned?
@@wayne_kurr BHPUK have all the data from my Dyno sessions with the VanDemon on their Dyno (check my videos).. and there handheld ECU device can map the data to your Hyper/ECU. A few guys have already done this.
Drop them a note - mention my channel and they’ll look aftern you 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking sounds pretty cool. I still need to pick up a 950/SP first. I’ve got a 996, a 1995 900SS and a Vespa and something’s gotta make space!
@@wayne_kurr someone’s been spoiling themselves 🤘🏼🤘🏼
very useful 🤗
Thanks
Thanks..
Looks CRT, they are the bad boys! 😎 Day to day S1 they just a bit naughty🤓
Can’t argue with that summary 👍🏻
Hello. Thanks for the video! Do you have the CAT installed? Also, stock ECU or mapped? Exhaust valve disabled? I have in plan to buy S1 mufflers for mine and i am curious about your setup :) @hypermotardking
This video/setup was just the end cans only. The CAT was still in place with exhaust valve and no remap.
In my current videos with my full system, I’ve removed the CAT, removed the valve and disabled with Healtech plug and had a custom ECU tune done with Dyno data from BHPUK - check them out 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking Great. Definitely gonna check them out! I am looking upon to upgrade my bike aswell, do you have any legislative issues with the mods listed above (noise, pollution limits) ??
@@datacolslovenija4251 For normal road riding here in UK its normally ok - the police are usually relaxed. For track days the noise limits are 102db.
The 1st ones you had just sound mean SC1s ,your bike looks sweet to..
Thanks mate.. UK silly track rules means im kind of forced to use the S1’s
Do you have the cat delete on this video? And do the cr-t burn up the indicters & taillight? Thanks for the video & info
No.. in this the OEM Cat is still there on the bike. The CRTs did burn one side of my ebay indicators 😭
@@hypermotardking thank you for the info
@@hypermotardking I forgot to ask on the s1 can you remove the spark arrester ?
@@oncewaswicked Only with drilling or a dremel tool - i wouldn’t recommend it
@@hypermotardking in your honest opinion which one sounded the meanest ?
If you're only tracking it, whatever makes the best HP (you'd need a Dyno pull and tune I guess - not cheap). For the road, the least obnoxious (I'm old and don't like attracting attention).
My plan is get a tune and dyno done and see if the two exhausts make much difference..
I don't recall seeing a video; is your bike tuned? Mine has the SC1-M, tuned, and I have issues keeping it from stalling when pulling in the clutch.
Not tuned.. have you tried cleaning your intake/throttle? Theres plenty out there on stalling and the fueling/intake needing a clean to sort it?
I have a 2020 950sp and installed the sc1-m with baffles removed, a k&n air filter and a removed the servo exhaust valve and installed a dummy plug all in the same week. Now I have that same problem with the bike stalling at low speeds when I pull the clutch in to downshift or at red stop light intersections. The bike sounds fantastic and I ride with ear plugs and it’s still loud. By upgrading the parts I definitely caused a problem with the bike stalling since it never had this issue stock. There’s other people with similar issues on Ducati forums who have said cleaning out the throttle bodies have fixed the issue. I’m taking my bike to the dealership to have it checked out this week since it’s still barely within warranty.
@@joshuacamacho851 Yeah, I just started running octane booster and injector cleaner to see if it helps. It's mainly a fun/track bike so it isn't usually a problem but still annoying.
@@joshuacamacho851 It could also be its runniing too lean and simple not enough fuel in the lower rev range.
Mines stalled a few times.. did it on my latest video in the middle of a busy road when pulling out 😩
@@hypermotardking right that’s the first thing I was thinking so I bought a power commander 5 about 2 weeks ago, so I’m gonna see if the dealership can run diagnostics on the ecu and maybe update anything. Also see if they can clean the throttle bodies. Then after that I’ll take it to a dyno shop and have them remap the bike for better fuel mixture at idle. Hopefully the combination of those should fix the problem. 🤞🏼
Hi What are theses like to fit are they straight forward
Super super easy.. like 5-10mins tops
Do you get pulled over a lot by police with the SC cans on? If not Carbon look more aggressive
We don’t have these problems here in the UK with exhausts on motorcycles..
If you weren't on the track which one would you prefer- Stock is far too quite and cars don't even know you are next to them on the highways- Thanks Cheers
Def CRT’s.. theres something sbout those barrels and the extra 1kg weight loss 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking Then that is what I will go with - Thank you 👍🏻🥃
Did you notice a performance difference between the two?
@@rickflores2420 Hard to say.. maybe a small bit up the rev range where the stock fuelling is better
s1 sound is with our without dbkiller? thx
With
Did the s1’s has dB killer?
Yes they did.. i didnt remove them
It’s got to be the crt’s hasn’t it? They just look more suited to the bike…and they’re louder!
Hahhaa.. certainly are louder and look better/different 👍🏻
Ordered CRT’s 6 weeks ago. Still no idea when I’ll be getting them.
Thats Italy for you 😂😂🇮🇹🇮🇹
@@hypermotardking lame haha
@@hypermotardkingFinally got the CRT’s on today. Damn they’re loud.
@@butterblood 😂😂 same
reaction from everyone
S1s ones! Less is more!
Yeah.. kinda leaning towards them - makes everything easier for road and track
My man! Can you tell me what license plate holder that is? And don’t de exhausts melt your blinkers like this? 😅
This is from Ebay.. it has since melted 1 blinker and I’ve now got integrated ones 👍🏻
@@hypermotardking thanks so much for your reply! I’m picking up my 950SP next Tuesday and am looking for a way to get rid of the enormous license plate holder. Evotech won’t fit cause it will melt literally everything 🤣
What integrated blinkers did you get?
@@Definitely_not_Rodger check out my recent videos.. czcams.com/video/ljzNe5FL0tM/video.html
@@hypermotardking thank you so much!!
Can you take the the baffles out ?
You can if you are good with a drill and dremmel.. others have done it.
What tail tidy do you have?
Its an Ebay Chinese one.. 👍🏻
Have you got a link buddy, want to get the same for mine 🙏🏻 appreciate your video btw
@@phillovell3 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125402021478?
Thank you - do you have stock indicators or not?
@@phillovell3 indicators are built into the chinese tail tidy
Have you d-cat yours now?
No.. don’t feel the need to yet - yes it saves some weight but will make it too loud for track day noise limits
@@hypermotardking ah yeah I see what you mean, you don't want to be missing out on them, they look way to fun.
Thanks for taking the time to make all your videos by the way, I find them a great source of knowledge.
@@johngroves1023 No worriers.. glad you can get some use out of them.
Is this only slipons and still with the catalytic converter ? How come Ducatis sounds so loud when you only change slipons ? I remember when I changed to slipons like these on my Ninja 1000sx, made no difference at all haha, the guys at Kawasaki told me it is because they have extra mufflers in the catalytic converter because of EU regulations. Ducati must have not gotten the memo :P
Or maybe they have the catalytic converter in the slipons like some bikes has and that is why it is such a difference when changing slipons in sound ?
The catalytic convertor is still on the bike.. that is the only one on the Hyper.. the sound is ok.. I now have a full decat and it sounds so loud
@@hypermotardking Yeah man I was only through half of the video when I wrote this. When I got to the flyby part in your video the sound was not that loud anymore. I would not want lower sound than that anyways, the flyby sound had the minimum sound I want for my bike. Maybe I will go with a de-cat like you and choose slipons that is not extremely loud as the CRTs to get the perfect sound volume. Maybe de-cat and then slip-ons with baffles in them or something. I want it loud but not my neighbors to hate me :D
Was the de-cat you bought just like a small pipe or ? What brand of de-cat did you buy and where did you buy it , is your de-cat universal so you can use it with any slipons like SC project or Akra ? Did you do any tuning after your de-cat like flash or power commander ? Sorry for many questions , Thanks for answering 👍👌
@@mathias6423 I wanted a full Titanium/Blue system.. VanDemon are the only one who make one so got that and sold my SC slip-ons. Powerwerks and Arrow Decats are very popular - but budget in a flash/remap as it eill be needed
@@hypermotardking thanks a lot man. Yeah I do not need a special brand on my slip--ons. I saw a pair of carbon slip ons that looked exactly like the SC project CRT for 399 dollars. I might buy those and the Werks or Arrow decat pipe and take it down to desmocenter and let them reflash it. Thanks for your advice
Ps. The Vandemon full system sounded expensive :P
@@mathias6423 Happy to help 🤟🏽🤟🏽
Can you take the baffles out of the S1’s
If you have hands like a brain surgeon and a small tipped dremmel
@@hypermotardking have you still got them and maybe selling them ?
@@pascalbishop4501 no, not anymore
@@hypermotardking really not sure what to lol I have the termignoni dual pair but you can not take baffles out also bought a powerworks headers exhaust with decat
@@pascalbishop4501 stick with what you go.. decat with termi silencers is a nice sound.. make sure you get a flash/remap done: BHPUK or Duessen Engines
They look better but the full decat titanium termi pisses all over them
Yeah.. its the uplift in cost to get them is the barrier for most
Yeah its not cheap 😂. I may well be putting my beloved tard up for sale this week to fund other projects sadly 😢@hypermotardking
Reving to 3k? Lol
Bike has a limiter when in neutral..